Will You Survive The Ejection?
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Emergency ejection decisions don't always come easy. In this video we will explore psychological factors that impact the decision-making as well as extreme ejection examples that have happened in the past.
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Sciophobia - Jo Wandrini
Our Last Stand - FormantX
Redefined Enlightment - Howard Harper-Barnes
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Wishing everyone an ejection-free Christmas! 🎄
Is abandoning ship Considered An Ejection?
@Holn Kya Shutup
@Netya Esca You Also, Shutup, Dam it
@@Mujiboy You are awesome lol!
@@0deepak lol
“No complaints were formally submitted by those passengers” Must’ve been a good flight then 10/10
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they would have been dead
Same happening in youtube dislike
@@joebidome8351 NO WAY
@@vprithviraj175 omg😂😂😂😂
Re the SR-71 ejection....while the collision with the drone happened at 80,000 ft and Mach 3, the crew actually stayed with the nose section until it had slowed and dropped top a lower altitude before punching out. Ejecting at Mach 3 would've killed them just by the wind blast.
Isn’t the atmosphere less thick up there though? There is a reason the plane has to go Mach 3 to stay airborne
@@scoopem1 it doesn't have to go to mach 3 to stay airborne.
@@scoopem1 The Mach 3 speed was to avoid any missile threat by outrunning it. Yes, the air is thinner at 80,000 ft, but consider that the U-2 flies at a similar altitude and a HELL of a low slower, yet stays aloft.
While there's not enough air PRESSURE to keep gasses in liquids, as they're well above Armstrong's Limit, there's still enough VOLUME of air for aerodynamic flight and control.
One reason aside from the Mach speeds the crew held off on ejecting when their SR broke up, waiting until they were at a lower altitude -- I don't know the altitude when they punched, but I'd guess it was lower than 36,000 ft so there would be no issues if their pressure suits did not work or were damaged.
@@stevenspilly mach is higher at higher altitudes, idk alot but you can be flying at the same speed at sea level and have low mach when compared to high altitude. Something to do with air being less dense. Also some parts of a plane can be going at a different mach than others, ie wings. I am paraphrasing a us navy pilot who talks about dcs.
@@samsignorelli Pressure suits were fine, I don't think that was a determining factor, you're still fucked at 36 000 ft without a pressure suit anyway.
This channel is simply great! The narrator does a brilliant job, the video material is perfect, the ideas and comments like "no complains formally submitted by those passengers" are absolutely hilarious! An ejection-free Christmas to you too, man!
Hehe thanks Mike!
Merry Christmas to you too!
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Do you know what was the most outragious ejection seat moment? In 2010, Korean 2-star general, experienced pilot but only with F-5(3000+ hours), was sitting at the new F-15 jet fighter back seat and ejected on 0 speed / 0 altitute. He was sitting there as the guest/inspecting duty but he managed to touch the ejection system by mistake. Costed about 1 mil USD to the Korean Airforce. Ejection itself was very successful and nobody got hurt execpt general's ego. Even Boeing(Maker of the F-15K) and ejection seat/system maker did not test on this real plane on 0 speed / 0 altitude so they got the free test result I'd say. Later Korean airforce banned the any general to fly as the inscpection duty for a while.
Also sad one. At the 2006 children's day airshow, Korean airforce stunt plane team's pilot Major Kim did not eject eventhough there was a airplane failure. He steered the plane to avoid the people at the ground, resulting zero casaulty except his life.
Interesting
Tesla self-driving software would be perfect for this application.
Eject the pilot and then steer the plane, automatically.
Since it's a vision only system you only needed a few webcams to do the upgrade.
With some training, the computer should be able to achieve them more optimal orientation for ejection even with significant damage.
Like instead of trying to fight a spin, it would just roll over faster to pop you out pointed up. Something human couldn't calculate fast enough, much less nail the timing.
Punishing the general was kinda idiotic. Accidents do happen and punishing competent people for them is self-destructive. I bet the general would've been more careful with the ejection mechanism than just about anybody else after that accident.
@@yaz2928 He got unpunished. Not even a disciplinary hearing. He became chief of Staff(Airforce) in Korea later... But pulling the big yellow ejection lever between your leg is not something you would expect from the pilot. It is like professional driver suddenly applying the parking break while driving and hit the tree. Just banning the all the non-active duty airforce generals on the new airplane was the temp order.
Another example of not ejecting but saving people, 2016 Great Tennessee Airshow, Blue Angels' Jeff Kuss. I watched him fly down... but didn't know he would, seconds later... die.
Unfortunately, timing was a major factor in the survival of the passenger and pilot in the crash in Kamloops, BC, Canada. It was less than a second in difference, but the change in angle and altitude was too great (IMO).
Much respect to those that created the ejection seat, and especially to those that originally tested them.
Очко играет?
Not everyone immediately knows what you are referring to or the circumstances involved. Always assume people don’t know what you are talking about and spell it out for them.
The passengers left behind didn't complain??!!! Ok. I see where ya going with that one!
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@@NotWhatYouThink They died b4 they got to write a complain! hahahahahahahaaa
Another important thing to consider is that many failed ejections are the result of the crew attempting to crash the plane in such a way that there is no loss of life on the ground.
That was the case in the paris airshow crash also the coolest one, when russian suhoj collide or sukced a bird in to engine during acrobatic cant remember anyhow, turn away from the spectators, went up side down nearly crashed into the ground !! Pilot ejected in the last second.
Few second later the camera showing a pilot casually walking on the run way just lighting his cigarete as nothing hapened.
RIP Ludger Hölker, he did exactly that
@@Markus-zb5zd as did Col Santini
@@jeremyheintz1479 o7
Where is his memorial?
And or waiting for the orientation to provide an upwards vector (between 271 and 89 degrees if 0 is 12 o'clock or directly upwards).
Interesting video - especially the research at the end that pilots bailed on passengers.I have never heard this before. ..
No complaints if there were no one to complain
Dead man cant talk
It makes sense to me that a pilot would feel more responsibility for where their aircraft is going to crash after ejection in a peace time scenario compared to a combat one.
Especially if they're in a residential area, air show, or if it's "their own fault" ... I completely understand it.
While I loathe quota hires for not realizing they are one, Kara Hultgreen wasn't as at fault as the men who allowed her to fly.
Same with Amber Guyger. While it had nothing to do with being a cop or being racist (only dumb people think that) ... she still shouldn't have been a cop, bc even an unarmed guy who (presumably) has no tendency towards violence and sees her in her uniform was able to scare her into using lethal force...and the training that she got told her she'd be justified...which is why cops get in FRONT of cars with drivers ... so they can shoot them.
If people understood that they shouldn't evaluate use-of-force (specifically lethal in this case) not as though it's a cop, but as though you could substitute ANYONE ... cop, citizen, etc., in for that person ... and your evaluation of the use-of-force would have to stand on its merits equally; irrespective of whether they're a cop or citizen ... As we all have the same right to life. Perhaps you can argue that a police officer has a "sworn duty to protect life" ... but that oath has been utterly nullified by the SCOTUS who's said, _"Police have NO DUTY to act._"
And, now, we are using QUOTAS when hiring ATC (air traffic controllers) in the US. So prepare to see a greater death rate.
My dad has a story from when he was based in Somalia dealing with ejection seats. There were some old B-57s on the base, and some guys were picking around in them, one of which was in the cockpit. He accidentally set off the ejection seat, which was little more than a glorified bomb at the time. Well, it was still active, and set off the charge on it, sending the seat directly into the face and chest of the guy over it, instantly breaking his neck and back.
It wasn't going to be a fatal injury, but one of the European medics on base forgot that when it comes to spinal injuries, you can't put anything that slows the heart down. The medic stuck him with morphine, and it killed him. Sad way to go.
Подобные истории были в Грозном на аэродроме Ханкала в 1995 году.
Merry Christmas dudes
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10:08 All the footage here shows Ka-52 only, not Ka-50 as described. But it has a similar ejection system anyway, just for 2 seats instead of one. Explosive bolts release the blades just prior to seats firing.
And the Ka-50's canopy just opens while ejecting
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I wonder how the people who built the jet feel to see it just hit the ground and explode
"Ahhh,n-other expiriment failed,must be some floating dot in calculations,gotta do it again"
Well, back to the drawing board...
THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOMEEEE!
"If you are thinking about ejecting, you should already be doing it." - don't remember the exact words and who said it, but you get the meaning. It's often a matter of split-seconds.
Good video.
Still can't get over how that harrier pilot waited until all he saw was fire to eject.
I like the inclusion of the two Saab-39 Gripen crashes. Both caused of software error pilot-induced oscillation, and both by the same test pilot. First one in 1989 made an uncontrolled roll at the Saab test runway, and the second one in 1993 stalled during a show in Stockholm where the plane proceeded to crash close to the audience. Both crashes occured during development before the planes were delivered to the Swedish airforce where they were to be designated JAS-39 Gripen, well the second was a freshly delivered plane but flown by Saab that day. No one was badly injured.
On the first crash the pilot didn't eject, but survived. During the 2nd JAS crash, I was 14 years old and standing a few hundred meters away on the middle of "Västerbron", pretty scary.
Same pilot in both crashes. Rumours say that during the first crash, he didnt manage to eject since he couldnt grab the handle. Reason was the he ws used to flying the Saab Viggen where the handle is located in a different place.
I'm not sure how many folks know just how dangerous it is to eject from an aircraft. I went through the training on the A-4 Skyhawk's seat and learned that if your back isn't straight and head up, you can break your spine. If your elbows aren't at your side, they could be broken by the edge of the cockpit. If your legs aren't flat against the seat, the seat could break them as it accelerates upward. Even your feet could hit the bottom of the instrument panel and be broken. ...and then there is the issue of injuries when you hit the wind.. lots of "flail" injuries as the wind, moving at hundreds of miles per hour, pulls your arms behind your back. On the Skyhawk, the statistics said that even if you ejected properly, the chance of survival was only 85%!
Scary 👍
My fear would be landing in the fiery crash slowly
Mine is landing on swamp. Almost impossible to escape. Also crocs will see the free food airdrop.
@@decrobyron at least you have a shot
ruclips.net/video/XhpS3MKECrc/видео.html I think this option is suitable.
Think one big difference in wartime vs peacetime ejection time could be down to the fact that during wartime a pilot would feel that he is in a dangerous situation vs a training flight that's meant to be perfectly safe. On top of this you also have the fact that in war time you're getting downed by something a lot more as opposed to structural malfunction or pilot error, a situation i'd imagine you would want to get out of.
Not a pilot, never been in the military, just my 2cents.
to be fair the russian prototype with an ejection seat for the pilot was probably for testing purposes, if ever the plane got out of control during tests he could bail out
Strange. I could have sworn I read that the Eurocopter Tiger also had ejection seats and I think when it first showed up in media in a James Bond movie, they even use the ejection seats in that movie. But now I can't find any information on it having ejection seats anymore.
Ejection is available as movie adaptation. Not real life. Only Russian KA-5x series are the only helicopter with ejection as I know.
@@decrobyron But I did not mean that that movie was the only source that said it had a ejection seat. I am like 90% sure serious documentaries and reports on it also said it had a ejection system.
@@TrangleC Yeah I did quick search too. I found the articles that sites "Tiger's ejection seat is in movie only". Probably it is from bad information paper/site or mixed memory. Happens all the time. Surprisingly many 'official' or 'crediable' military sources have the so bad researchers. Even the famous 'IHS Jane' book shares the same problem.
Generally, ejection seats in helicopters aren't needed as in fixed-wing aircraft. Helos have the unique ability to autorotate (their propellers will spin as they fall, generating lift even without power). This means that a "crash landing" for a helicopter is much safer than trying to land a fixed-wing aircraft without power. A quick Googling shows that unpowered autorotation landings for helicopters over the last 10 years have been 95.5% successful. That puts it way up there for survivability.
To give you an answer. I know well the ec 665 Tiger, and ejection seats don't exist on it, whatever the version.
What pilots however have at their disposal, is a command to make their canopy glass explode, if they're stranded in in the cockpit after a crash.
В этом видео есть несколько кадров катастроф с советскими самолетами. Особенно впечатляет спасение пилотов столкнувшихся двух самолетов на сверхмалой высоте в ЛеБурже. Там один самолет разрубил фюзеляж второго своим крылом прямо за креслом пилота. Спасение пилотов-просто чудо.
You are a miracle Kolya K
I've bailed out a long time ago. That is what I know.... not what I think. Thanks for your very well done vids.
I used to work on an Air Force base and in talks with many of the pilots they all had one major concern about non-combat area ejections which was ejections close to civilian residential areas where the plane could easily kill many people on the ground. Due to this concern many of the talked about how far they could safely ride the plane into the ground to ensure they avoided the civilian housing.
BTW: In the 1960s Bell experimented with helicopter ejections seats using explosive bolts, but it never went ahead due to technical issues so it was never incorporated into a production helicopter. There some great footage of the experiments aorund.
Merry Christmas everyone
11:07 Love how passengers are extremely delighted to see their pilot escape!
Lol teach your pilots first 😂😂😂 migs crashes are increasing 8 months 5 crashes
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All the best to you, just save your country now. The bomb's ticking 😂
Merry Christmas guys
Really appreciated this one
not nearly as much as I really appreciate some of the things I've managed to forget over a decade
it is truly amazing the pressure we can put onto ourselves just with simple thoughts
The last couple of minutes were all what I wanted to hear. Especially the part at end that said there were no formal complaints by passengers. 🤣🤣🤣
I love the humor of this channel!
Also imagine your face when you see your pilot bail out as you don't have an ejection seat..
Pilot: "good luck guys, CYUA, peace!"
Hoping you have a great christmas. Also be seeing you guys next year. Keep up the good work NWYT :). Merry Christmas
I love your videos, very informative
I've seen sometime ago right on RUclips about the USAF instruction on ejection decision. It stressed strongly that "Don't hesitate and delay" if anything tend to be out of control. Sadly the pilot of my country in the past tended to take the last seconds chance more than earlier since they thought or be taught a plane is the high value asset of our not rich nation which are under their responsibility to keep it intact.
I was on the ground where a military jet crashed in 1990-ish in Austin TX. 1 did pass away from waiting way to long. 20 or 30 feet off the ground at an angle that spit them out on top of an unopened parachutes.
Great video. Covered everything I was curious about
little bit o history with an entertaining spin. nice.
That F-39 crash at the flare is the perfect illustration of control gain issues in a fly by wire system
F39? whats that plane
Awesome video. Such a high quality channel
Nice vid
Does Santa's sleigh have an ejection seat? 😋
ay yo
Simple!
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Imagine being some rich person taking a ride in a Ford Trimotor when all of a sudden you hear a weird sound come from the engine and the pilots just dip.
The fire effect at 9:05 is just beautiful XD
i learned so much things from this channel thnks a lot to the amazing narrator 👍🏻
I love this channel, always ending with a silly joke is appreciated
Hardest ones are the flat irrecoverable spins where the pilot fights trying to save the otherwise functional plane. Compared to a Wing falling off, where there is no hesitation.
Funny that there is no formal complaint about the pass/pilots bailing!
Failure to delay ejection carries a high probability of fatality in my household.
Maybe cause your dad tends to eject early.
Merry Christmas hope u have a good year ahead of you guys
Merry Christmas!
@@asmaar566 you too
“No complaints were formally submitted by those passengers” Is that because none of the passengers survived?
Probably
Yes, it was a joke
Merry Christmas everyone!!!
Back in the 90s an excellent video game called TFX had a rather realistic depiction of ejecting close to the ground while inverted.
The "Splat Effect"?
Хотели "кобру" или "петлю Пугачева", увы. Для этого машине нужна особая конструкция как Су-27 и Миг- 29...
I sometimes suffer from delayed ejection
Odličan video 👍
You left off one of the most important changes in seats. Modern seats have a gyro so it knows which way is up and will shoot the crewmember that way. I lost a fellow pilot in a U2 low altitude ejection because the aircraft was almost inverted and he shot himself into the ground.
Sorry for your loss.
Actually the the Americans, not the Russians, looked at ejecting from helicopters during the Vietnam War. They had lost a number of crew from helicopters crashes and realised that having an ejection seat would have meant the crews could have survived. They also decided on using explosive bolts as a way of detaching the rotor blades before ejection. There were several reasons why they did not go ahead with the idea. For one thing many of those in helicopters would not be seated in an ejection seat, such as other crew members, passengers such as troops or the wounded. Also having come under ground fire they realised that if one of the explosive bolts was hit it could mean the lose of a rotor blade which would bring the helicopter down.
It was Germany who used the first ejection seats towards the end of the war in Europe. I remember watching an interview of a German pilot who successfully used his ejection seat and stated that he had been wounded and without it he would not have been able to get out of his aircraft.
Ka-50 is a single-seat helicopter, Ka-52 is two-seat helicopter. What other crew members are you talking about?
I enjoyed the video, it's the best
Merry christmas from Panamá 🇵🇦
Great video!
Classic explanation 👌 👏
There was a Russian Yak-38 the pilot ejected underwater and landed on carrier deck. Video footage is on RUclips
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Ur videos are always informative and we'll narrated. I like ur videos always.
Merry Christmas, much love from Canada. That Lethbridge crash is cool to me since it's a CF-18. Hopefully, if I make it to the air force I don't have to go through that lol
Hello from Ontario!
Definitely ejecting more often, now!! Great vid!
4:56, also definitely because the worry of negative repercussions for loosing the aircraft in peacetime, if its in military operations, top brass doesn't really care, in peace time, they absolutely will rip into you and some are nasttyy with what they choose to do.
The coolest ejection was on the Paris(?) air show when russian suhoj collide or sukced a bird in to engine during acrobatic cant remember anyhow, nearly crashed into the ground turned up side down !! Pilot ejected in the last second.
Few second later the camera showing a pilot casually walking on the run way just lighting his cigarete as nothing hapened.
Your analysis and the way u speak makes me wanna listen more to you. But is not what you think
Hey, if that plane kept flying after they bailed out, they might have been suffering from Premature Ejection! 😃
The thumbnail is from the 2016 Lethbridge Airshow CF-18 Crash. Happened on my birthday.
Like that last part about the dead passengers never filling any complaints lol
I was here and merry Christmas
Considered one of the best pilot aces of ww2 hans-joachim marseille (triple ace in a day) died while ejecting from his me-109 when he hit the plane's fin.
That last joke is so dark i love it
My favorite ejection seat story my navy father always told:
An A-4 Skyhawk was respotted to the hanger deck before the seat was found to be hot. The A/C was roped off and personel were warned to stay clear. A team of Aviation Mechanics (AMEs) was dispatched to render the seat safe. The most experienced AME cautiously entered the cockpit and began removing the intiators while a pair of AMEs assisted by handing him tools from either side of the cockpit. What happened next is unknown, but the seat fired. The AME on the seat was hurtled up into the hanger deck ceiling denting it and killing him. The rocket blast killed the other two technicians.
Always reminded me of the accident where a nuclear tech was pinned to the roof of the reactor building when a graphite rod exploded out of the reactor.
Bro that last line tho 🥲
i agree with this as theres a posibility that your chutes jammed
that is great video
Also you can add video from Sknyliv airshow disaster (it happened in my city) pilots ejected literally from ground.
The editeD flames looked so professional..
Oh those were edited? 😅
Very interesting 🛩✈
The FB-111 has an interesting solution too
Very informative video.
Based on many years in flying safety, parachute training and safety both military US Army and USAF Rescue and Civilian I often noticed the Navy seemed to have a better success rate because they emphized a fast ejection. IE save the crew off a carrier while although the USAF gave lip service to bail out but they actually encouraged attempting to save the aircraft via a system of "Attaboys"
I also worked with USAF Pilots who had flown the early jets in which due to design an ejection was likely to cut off the front of the feet resulting in death due to blood loss.
I talked to several Korean war jet pilots who said if any opportunity to land a damaged jet fighter rather than eject they'd attempt to land
The USAF also in the early 50's-60's had a mindset that discouraged actual jump training thus teaching was by a book written by at best inexperienced instructors or Ww 2 experience.
The US Navy allowed or required its parachute riggers to jump, i considered if this knowledge increased the aircrews trust in the parachute.
the USAF in the same time frame denied its parachute riggers the opportunity to actually jump. In fact until around 1990 USAF Parachute riggers/Survival equipment Specialists were assigned to maintenance and there was a very real "Turf war" between Opperations and maintenance while in the Navy "Riggers" were in close association with aircrews
It would be interesting to know if the live parachute training at the USAFA Starting around 1966 helped improve USAF Bailout success.
6:30 That was sooo fast. In a split second he was like 2-300 feet in the air O.O
esse canal é show de bola mesmo muito bom cheios de vídeos super importante pra nós saber a realidade da vidas dos pilotos de aviões
On the video when you talk about ka-50 (black shark) you show ka-52. They both has ejection system, but ka-50 was first. Then ka-52 was designed as leader helicopter for wing of ka-50s. But since of lack money Russia decided to take on service 52s as aswuad leader and mi-34 as wing helicopters. As I know mi-34 are not equiped with ejection seat.
Thank you for the video. Very interesting!
I remember reading an article in naval aviation news in 1992or93 specifically about ejecting as soon as you realize the plane is undercoverable. They went through what you did in this video that in combat ejections are almost 100% survival because you don't try to save the aircraft. However in training, it's quite difficult to want to leave a perfectly good airplane. People's instincts are funny though. It's been at least 30 years that they've been drilling this into people's heads and yet it's still how and why most military aviators perish.
1:39 Holy shit I can't imagine that pain...
4:15 AM (yep!)
12/26/2021
Merry Christmas!
Did you know the injection seat was invented by an Irish man from Belfast. Really enjoyed this video.
Ejection, i read as Rejection.
The channel name fits right.
B-52 use BOTH upward & downward ejection seats:
The pilot, copilot, EWO & gunner all eject upwards.
Nav & Radar Nav (lower deck crew) fire downwards.
(were both survivable? I'd much prefer parachuting!)
Wow thanks I didn't need to see that guys compound fracture
It was a training exercise.
@@NotWhatYouThink oh thank god
well now ill survive if i ever end up in the situation, thanks
A bit of Not What You Think dark humor at the end 😂
That was dark? Hmmm 🤓
I take tourists for rides on gliders. When I give them the parachute, they ask me if I am sure it works. I tell them not to worry, that if it doesn't, the warranty is still valid.
Anybody interested in a more nuanced overview of the information contained here should look up the video US Airforce Training Film "Ejection Decision - A second too late!".
9:39 glad that Autopilot not smart enough to avoid incoming missiles
Merry Christmas Everyone!
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