PylonTech Pylon Battery connection to PC Console cable - BatteryView USB to RJ45 cable
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Modified a standard Ethernet patch cable to allow direct connection between a PC and the Console port of a US3000C PylonTech battery. To allow monitoring of batteries and updating of firmware.
Software: Here's a link to the PylonTech BatteryView software
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And for the MultiSIBControl battery monitoring software - just search for MultiSIBControl.
The standard USB to RJ45 FTDI cable is not wired correctly for communication with the Pylontech batteries. Pylontech batteries use the RS232 transmit/receive and ground on RJ45 pin 3, pin 6 and pin 8. The USB to RJ45 FTDI cable has RX (receive) on pin 3, TX (transmit) on 6 and GND (ground) on pin 4. Only these three wires should be connected. For RS232, the TX wire at one end must be connected to the RX wire at the other.
Thanks a lot!!! Works fine together with US3000C, BatteryViewer 3.28 and Windows 11. Modified a cable with FTDI FT232RL chip (Noname / DSD Tech). Cable colours different, but PIN-Numbers fine. I had to consider direction from battery to USB to crossover the two correct communication wires only.
Thank you for the tutorial. I can see my batteries via Solar Assistant.
😂....that happens when one does not study all the info that is provided... Thanks for the prompt reply...
Hello friends of the US2000C battery modules. The Voigt engineering office has succeeded in reading out all the required data from a module presented here with the aid of a PLC and thus making the data and parameters available for further applications. I think I will soon be able to say the same about the RS485 interface. I think I have thus enriched our community a little.
Please feel free to add links to any of your products/ideas.
merci beaucoup !..excellente video !...👍👍😀
Головне взяти саме синю ізолєнту!!!))
in your video you keep Green and Green/white wires as TX and RX. These are pin 5 and pin 6
But in your text you give pin 3 and pin 6 .
After two weeks trying to get the batteries connected I finally used the green and green white and it is working. But your text misled me for all this time because you said pin 3 + 6 + 8 are the connections to use.
So for clarity:
The green and green/white are TX and RX pins 5 & 6 (NOT Pins 3 & 6) as stated in the text
Hopes this helps clarify
Some of this replay is for others reading your comment...
Thanks for the comment. I looked at the pylon manual - I have the 3000C batteries so that's all the information I rely on. In the manual under "Console" it defines the wiring for the RS232 protocol. On the other side of the page it shows the pin-out for the CANbus protocol. In the RS232 side, the Tx is pin 3 and the Rx is pin 6 (pin 8 is ground). On the CANbus side, pin 4 is CAN-high and pin 5 is CAN-low. It is possible that your batteries are configured differently. For the purposes of this video, and the use of the Cisco USB to RJ45 FTDI cable I need the RS232 protocol. (only mention this for other people reading the comment).
So I think on the RJ45 connector (cat5 ethernet cable) I need to wire up pin 6 and 3 and 8. Although it's only conventionally, an ethernet RJ45 patch cable is usually wired orange/white,orange, green/white, blue, blue/white, green, brown/white, brown from pin 1 to pin 8, 'may' be wired with any combination of colors so long as they match at both ends (well - usually). So maybe that's where things are going wrong.
What is for sure is that the manual also says to be careful not to put signals on pins 1 and 2. So for the RS232 to work, only pin 3,6 and 8 on the pylon batteries should be connected at all - that's why I cut all the others.
This connection will only work with the Cisco USB to RJ45 FTDI adaptor.
Question: does this setup match RXD with TX and TXD with RX, or is it actually matching RXD with RX and TXD with TX due to the female-female RJ45 in-between? Do you suggest this setup versus directly re-patching the USB to serial cable?
Yes - you actually connect the TX at one end to the RX at the other end. It's like the pin out refers to the socket connections rather than the wires so when one side transmits the other end should be receiving.
You can wire the serial cable directly - no harm in doing that. However you just might have to connect to older pylon batteries (US2000 for example) and for that you need a different pin out and a different plug (and RJ11). So using a connector and two different wires will save you buying another USB adaptor. (I put up another video wiring up the us2000 RJ11 connector.)
@@mikeatyouttube thanks a lot for this
A decent company supplies such a cable together with a battery... Or at least it offers it as an optional accessory - for pennies!
It is odd, isn't it? Wow - 21,000 views - I wonder if Pylon know - and might do something to make my video obsolete? I'm not holding my breath. You may not know, but even the RJ45 connection from the battery to the Solis charger I have needs to be altered to work reliably. I think I put up a video about that. Right now I'm working on some software (web pages) that allow people to set the charge profile of the Solis charger remotely. I guess these are hardware companies and software is a bit of a mystery for them :)
@@mikeatyouttube Honestly, I'm not a fan of Pylontech. Especially since videos about servicing their batteries appeared on YT. What I saw inside was truly terrifying!!!
So whether Pylontech will react in any way is of no particular importance to me. If I had to bet, I would bet on NO.
@@andrzej3511 Who are your preferred battery manufacturers? It's a bit of a wild-west at the moment and I'm sourcing batteries for another project so any views on preferred suppliers would be helpful.
I'm hoping that sodium batteries become available for residential use. At least the US3000Cs I have a FePOs not tri-metal. Any views on that?Thanks.
@@mikeatyouttube First of all: I advise you to get a "divorce" from Pylontech as soon as possible!
Personally, I have two proven producers, or rather distributors: EVE, Gobel, Shenzhen Qishou and Hitium (here I rely on the opinions of others)*. The second thing I strongly suggest is to consider installing the batteries yourself, purchasing cells from these suppliers and "switching" to prismatic batteries. These plastic bags at Pylontech are a kind of parody of a battery...
Costs. You can build a very decent battery with a capacity of 16 kWh and a voltage of 48 volts for an average of $ 100 per kWh, and if you look carefully from the Chinese suppliers, it will even be significantly cheaper. I am not giving any addresses to them, everyone should search at their own risk. I am guided by the number of transactions of a given bidder (the more, the better) and the overall score, those below 4.9 points are eliminated, even if they promised golden mountains. I saw from your videos that you can hold wrenches, a screwdriver and a soldering iron in your hand, so in my opinion you can do it without any difficulty.
So compare a properly assembled (by your own hand!) DiY 16 kWh battery and the Pylontech 2 kWh battery for twice as much (approximately)... As for which you know best what is inside Pylontech.
Draw your own conclusions.
* Personally, I cannot resist the impression that all prismatic cells are produced by one manufacturer on a gigantic scale, even for Chinese conditions. Only distribution is carried out under various trademarks. Some better care about quality, others sell cheaper.
P.S. If you are looking for someone who will lead you by the hand, I highly recommend the Off-Grid Garage channel. The host, Andy, shows exactly step by step how to build a good battery, what to pay attention to, how to program a BMS and which one to choose.
Truth be told, I learned a lot from him myself. Very cool dude!
Why can you not just splice the USB to RJ45 and swap the ground, why create the elaborate crossover with the connection? Thanks
You need the FTDI dongle to get the RS232 protocol that the Pylon batteries need. And it's important (according the the Pylon user manual) that only the RX TX and GND wires be connected (the others 'shall be null' apparently). Of course you don't need the female to female rj45 connector if you modify the FTDI dongle wiring itself. It's just that if you cut those wires and add an rj45 plug then obviously you wont be using the dongle for anything else (and you need the tool to make up the plug). Up to the user really. Other youtubers have done exactly that.
I folowed trough the exelente tutorial all the way up to "conecting", then then program did not connect. I found out that the "Corechip SR9900 USB2.0 to Fast Ethernet Adaptor" I use, shows up in the Windows 10 Device Manager as a Network Adaptor connected to "Port_#0002.Hub_#0003", not under Ports as a com port. So I beleave batteryvew does not find the the port to connect to, as in teh lsiot of possibel ports it does not show up.... How can I fix this? ore do I have to buy a other USB/Ethernet adaptor? How do I know with a nea adaptor it does not happen again? BTW I use it on US5000 batteries.
The Corechip SR9900 is the wrong adaptor. You need an FTDI to USB adaptor. A FTDI adaptor will convert USB to Serial. The battery console port is Serial RS232 protocol. Try to get the same adaptor that I used - search "cisco compatible console cable USB to RJ45".
The Corechip SR9900 converts to Ethernet which is wrong. The PylonTech console port is RS232.
Good luck!
from where i can download batterview ? only links I managed to find don t work anymore thanks
Try this link - and let me know if it works. I had to ask PylonTech for the software. They seem to be reluctant to provide the software - probably because you can screw up if you try updating the firmware - so don't do that.
drive.google.com/file/d/1G2NlLwo5v88c59AX9bG3zy1tt2mbAxwY/view?usp=sharing
Also, search for MultiSIBControl - they have some nice free software
yes it did work thanks a millon
@@mikeatyouttube
have temp on cells 13 14 7 15 anyone had similar issue ?
@@pixu777 PylonTech are quite responsive - maybe talk to them and send screenshots from the BatteryView software.
Also, you could always try only charging to say 80 or 90%, especially if the weather is hot.
Nice one thank you for making the vid, very helpful. I'm just about to do this and had tried modifying an old USB to 232 converter cable, however its so old I don't think the drivers work for it any more. I've got a USB to RJ45 lead arriving soon, so will mod that to match your cable. Also, does anyone have a link for the BatteryView software? I've tried looking online but the links I've tried are all dead. Thanks
I had to contact pylontech directly to get the batteryView software. I've put a copy on a google drive location and hopefully you'll be able to download that. It would be good to let me know if the link works. The file has US2000b in the name but it works just fine with my US3000C batteries.
drive.google.com/file/d/1G2NlLwo5v88c59AX9bG3zy1tt2mbAxwY/view?usp=sharing
Also, once you've got your cable working, investigate the MultiSIBControl.net site. Their version 1.7 code is rather nice and with it you get to see all your batteries at the same time with some nice graphics. With the batteryView - you have to plug the cable in to each battery in turn to see the information.
One good thing about the batteryView software is that it tells you the version of the firmware. The MutliSIBControl program might have that info but I haven't found it yet.
@@mikeatyouttube Thanks Mike, that is very kind of you. Once I've received a working USB/RS232 adapter I'll connect the whole thing up and have a check. I have 2xUS2000 and 4xUS3000C all of different ages, so it will be interesting to see how they are all doing. The reason for being interested in this, is that my inverter started throwing up BATOVP errors and though I've decreased the upper voltage limit on the pylons (which seems to have solved the problem) there still could be a cell pack within one of the batteries that is overcharging. This software and the MultiSIBcontrol will certainly help me spot any issues. Thanks again for your help 👍
@@gavbansal967 I've just uploaded this video ruclips.net/video/JggcIt0v7jw/видео.html in response to someone who has some US2000 batteries. Having looked at the manual online, seems the 2000s use an RJ11 socket for the console but still use the RS232 protocol. I created this video (using an RJ10 - the smaller cousin of the RJ11) to help him out. I can't actually test the cable but it should work.
Does this work for US2000C batteries?
It should do. I haven't got any 2000Cs but they are the newest phosphate technology (I believe - that's what the 'C' means). Get the 2000C manual out and compare it with the 3000C manual - available on line. If the RS232 pin-out is the same I see every reason to assume a similar cable will work.
@@mikeatyouttube Thanks. Is this the "Console" sub-heading under 3.3 Equipment Interface Instruction which details pins 3-6 and 8? If so, the entries in the US3000C and US2000C manuals are identical.
@@none194 Yes. The US2000C and US3000C manuals are the same on the Console pin out. So the cable I made would work on the US2000C batteries. A few people didn't use the correct Cisco USB to RJ45 FDTI cable/adaptor. Using the right USB to RJ45 cable is important - at least for the wiring in this video.
how to you make pin out for us2000b?
I've not made a cable for a us2000b because I don't have one. However I did make this video that might help. ruclips.net/video/JggcIt0v7jw/видео.html If you succeed - could you give some feedback to help others.
Does the system work with PylonTech US 2000? Thanks
@@mb-3faze Console has a RJ45 connector
@@ErDuca21
I found a better image of the US2000 and it looks like the CONSOLE port is actually an RJ11 (rectangular but only 4 pins rather than 8 like the RJ45). RJ10/RJ11 connectors are used for telephones.
Anyway, you could probably get this to work if you found a telephone cable with an RJ10 plug, cut the wire and then found an ethernet patch cable (like I used in the video) and cut that in half too. Then, connect the wire on pin 2 of the RJ10/RJ11 to pin 3 on the RJ45 ethernet cable.
Then connect pin 3 of the RJ10/RJ11 to pin 6 of the RJ45
Then pin 1 of the RJ10/RJ11 to pin 4 of the RJ45 connector.
You still need the blue FTDI USB cable and the driver for your PC - and the connector to connect the RJ45 wire to it.
It will either work or it wont but I don't believe you can do any damage to the battery or computer.
You might find some free software called MutliSIBControl useful for monitoring all the battery parameters. Look it up online.
@@mb-3faze thank you
@@ErDuca21 This video might help you out. ruclips.net/video/JggcIt0v7jw/видео.html
I found a better image of the US2000 and it looks like the CONSOLE port is actually an RJ11 (rectangular but only 6 pins rather than 8 like the RJ45). RJ11 connectors are used for telephones.
Anyway, you could probably get this to work if you found a telephone cable with an RJ11 plug, cut the wire and then found an ethernet patch cable (like I used in the video) and cut that in half too. Then, connect the wire on pin 2 of the RJ11 to pin 3 on the RJ45 ethernet cable.
Then connect pin 3 of the RJ11 to pin 6 of the RJ45
Then pin 1 of the RJ11 to pin 4 of the RJ45 connector.
You still need the blue FTDI USB cable and the driver for your PC - and the connector to connect the RJ45 wire to it.
It will either work or it wont but I don't believe you can do any damage to the battery or computer.
You might find some free software called MutliSIBControl useful for monitoring all the battery parameters. Look it up online.
the wrong information in this video wasted me 20hours of work.
you need 1 on actual batteries so don't cut orange
Which batteries do you have? Because on the 3000C's pin 1 is simply not connected to anything. For the RS232 protocol you only need 3 wires, Rx,Tx and ground. The RS232 protocol is used on the Console port, despite the fact that it's a RJ45 port.
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