Patty should not forget the progress she has made with Morgan, she wasn't even comfortable with both Jamie and Patty in the room and now Morgan is eager to fly to her! I can relate to her though, overthinking thinks and being too hard on myself. Go Patty!!
My tuppence worth: Patty went through the trauma of having Morgan's toe removed with Morgan, and the subsequent stressful rehabilitation process. No wonder you're more tense when handling her feet than with your other birds! *Love* you guys and how much you're looking after each other. Thank you for sharing. xA
I know how it feels to have an African Grey wiho was born without the claws on the left foot and I want to 'save' her all the time., it is not easy to go against my instincts. But this session has tort me to trust Chiku more. Thank you
Excellent advice you and Dave gave Patty. I would add an additional tip. First and foremost, Patty should reestablish a gentle, relaxed, and loving bond with Morgan before any training. Once she's regained Morgan's trust, the training can be instigated and would flow much easier. Patty acknowledged her stiff and uncomfortable body language, which has affected Morgan's responses to her, so she's on the right track and can hopefully improve that. Thanks Jamieleigh for your wonderful videos. They are making a difference for captive parrots.
The Parrots Voice she has been working with Morgan on her own, she is just now starting to work with her on flights and she still wants to over compensate for Morgan’s disability’s
I understand the history. Everyone is doing a great job and Patty is doing her best. However, the video shows there are still trust issues, regardless of the history. More trust building and relationship building during other activities first, would improve flight session later.
I think they just tried out to start with the flight training because the other training and bonding was going well. And they made a pretty good start because Morgan was immediately flying to her. Just now Patty was getting a bit frustrated about the way she catches Morgan. And they immediately took it back to the basics of stepping up and down and target training. So they did what you said. But Patty wasn't in the right head space this time. I think she would've come upon this problem whenever she would've started with flight training. Because it's more about her letting go of her fear and trusting Morgan will land right. Now that she has been through this and talked about it, she just needs to relax and she will do it right next time.
@@theparrotsvoice6143 I agree with the next poster. It really has nothing to do with the bonding...and flight training IS also bonding. She just needs to relax more...that's the only issue. They are doing everything right.
It's been great watching Patty and Morgan! Y'all have made it so far already and I can't wait to see the day Morgan's a full-fledged (pun absolutely intended) free-flight bird! :D
I take in special needs birds and animals,reptiles etc. Lately many are birds who are splay legged which often means their wings are not developed either. Many get pain in their backs and necks and come self mutilating(they get a clean skin scraping test to rule out yeast and other parasites and often temporary mood altering meds to stop the bird from getting the huge endorphin rush from plucking). Any suggestions or ideas would be great . My question is though how would you approach eventual pairing of disabled birds? I too am paralyzed and can understand the fustrations of worldly limits these animals her feel but I show them how to do things that have been modified slightly. y paralysis is from a spine broken in an accident and may slowly come back...Theirs is often irreversible but I can train them to gain confidence and to use their wings with special landing areas. Anyway, I am wondering has anyone that you know of in the bird world written or worked with splay legged or other disabled birds that you can suggest as a contact? We have an amazing avian vet and are not too far from a vet university so health is covered. We are dealing with abuse, neglect, isolation and malnutrition as well but the moment they come in the door they are put on your diet and if in super bad shape they get a critical care supplemental slurry which boosts the birds well being too. Well, thank you in advance. Wishing you and yours all the best. Cheers!
Well morgan knows how to land but patty keeps altering her hand wich keeps morgan from landing properly and sence patty doesn't say Morgan to get her to fly she would hold out her hand normally so Morgan can land but i dont own a bird myself i just am interested in the training process because alot of it can be applied to ferrets. But i just saw a more recent video of the training process and it looks like patty is still dancing her hand when Morgan is trying to step down. But patty is learning and is doing a great job she has an excellent teacher keep being awesome : )
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Patty, you are wonderful. It's so great to see how much better the relationship between Morgan and you is now.
Patty should not forget the progress she has made with Morgan, she wasn't even comfortable with both Jamie and Patty in the room and now Morgan is eager to fly to her! I can relate to her though, overthinking thinks and being too hard on myself. Go Patty!!
My tuppence worth: Patty went through the trauma of having Morgan's toe removed with Morgan, and the subsequent stressful rehabilitation process. No wonder you're more tense when handling her feet than with your other birds!
*Love* you guys and how much you're looking after each other. Thank you for sharing. xA
I know how it feels to have an African Grey wiho was born without the claws on the left foot and I want to 'save' her all the time., it is not easy to go against my instincts. But this session has tort me to trust Chiku more. Thank you
Patty is so cute I love her I can see how happy she is that Morgan is enjoying being around her and it makes me so happy
This excellent vid shows the necessity for patience, consistency and human attention to the bird's body language
Wow!!! Better and better together after each session!
Excellent advice you and Dave gave Patty. I would add an additional tip. First and foremost, Patty should reestablish a gentle, relaxed, and loving bond with Morgan before any training. Once she's regained Morgan's trust, the training can be instigated and would flow much easier. Patty acknowledged her stiff and uncomfortable body language, which has affected Morgan's responses to her, so she's on the right track and can hopefully improve that. Thanks Jamieleigh for your wonderful videos. They are making a difference for captive parrots.
The Parrots Voice she has been working with Morgan on her own, she is just now starting to work with her on flights and she still wants to over compensate for Morgan’s disability’s
I understand the history. Everyone is doing a great job and Patty is doing her best. However, the video shows there are still trust issues, regardless of the history. More trust building and relationship building during other activities first, would improve flight session later.
I think they just tried out to start with the flight training because the other training and bonding was going well. And they made a pretty good start because Morgan was immediately flying to her. Just now Patty was getting a bit frustrated about the way she catches Morgan. And they immediately took it back to the basics of stepping up and down and target training. So they did what you said. But Patty wasn't in the right head space this time.
I think she would've come upon this problem whenever she would've started with flight training. Because it's more about her letting go of her fear and trusting Morgan will land right. Now that she has been through this and talked about it, she just needs to relax and she will do it right next time.
@@theparrotsvoice6143 I agree with the next poster. It really has nothing to do with the bonding...and flight training IS also bonding. She just needs to relax more...that's the only issue. They are doing everything right.
It's been great watching Patty and Morgan! Y'all have made it so far already and I can't wait to see the day Morgan's a full-fledged (pun absolutely intended) free-flight bird! :D
I have been following. I'm so happy for Morgan!
Can we see more Dave? It was really cool seeing his perspective and ideas on the training session
Probably not, he's the busiest of all - he's in FL currently with a bird client. :/ but hopefully.
I have a question! I noticed the baby grand, in the first video I watched. I LOVE it. Who plays? :-) Beth Great video. Thumbs up!
It's a family heirloom - but Dave plays best ;)
One thing I noticed is that Jamie had her palm up when waiting for Morgan to fly.
Thank you
I take in special needs birds and animals,reptiles etc. Lately many are birds who are splay legged which often means their wings are not developed either. Many get pain in their backs and necks and come self mutilating(they get a clean skin scraping test to rule out yeast and other parasites and often temporary mood altering meds to stop the bird from getting the huge endorphin rush from plucking). Any suggestions or ideas would be great . My question is though how would you approach eventual pairing of disabled birds? I too am paralyzed and can understand the fustrations of worldly limits these animals her feel but I show them how to do things that have been modified slightly. y paralysis is from a spine broken in an accident and may slowly come back...Theirs is often irreversible but I can train them to gain confidence and to use their wings with special landing areas. Anyway, I am wondering has anyone that you know of in the bird world written or worked with splay legged or other disabled birds that you can suggest as a contact? We have an amazing avian vet and are not too far from a vet university so health is covered. We are dealing with abuse, neglect, isolation and malnutrition as well but the moment they come in the door they are put on your diet and if in super bad shape they get a critical care supplemental slurry which boosts the birds well being too. Well, thank you in advance. Wishing you and yours all the best. Cheers!
She needed a more experienced owner then she went to.
Could it be that Patti is not realizing that she is sub consciously thinking about Morgan's bad foot and she is trying to adapt to that?
8:14 She keeps saying "Come on good girl" like omg stop.
FallenAfterling she’s trying her best, it takes a while to learn these things and break habits.
Your giving my anxiety when patty was handling one of your birds =/ again i know by now she knows what she is doing but I get get a tiny bit nervous
Why did that get you anxious? Patty's awesome!
I would bling fold patty so she doesn't see its morgan unless the blind fold scares morgan just thought it might help.
Emily Knoke then how would she catch Morgan?
Well morgan knows how to land but patty keeps altering her hand wich keeps morgan from landing properly and sence patty doesn't say Morgan to get her to fly she would hold out her hand normally so Morgan can land but i dont own a bird myself i just am interested in the training process because alot of it can be applied to ferrets. But i just saw a more recent video of the training process and it looks like patty is still dancing her hand when Morgan is trying to step down. But patty is learning and is doing a great job she has an excellent teacher keep being awesome : )
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