It was great to see you both together again, and such a wonderful video, full of laughter and photographic thoughts! Not to mention seeing a bit of Helsinki! Loved it! All you needed was Robin!
cant agree more. Bought a GX3 for my retirement travels. Use it everyday. Never would have done that with all my other camera equipment. Taken my photography to a whole different level
As I became more drawn towards street and travel photography, I sold my Lumix G9 and now mostly use the smaller and lighter GX9 for street photography (I find the tilting screen very helpful), and the OM Systems OM5 for travel, mainly because it's small, lightweight and weather sealed. In wet weather I'll also use the OM5 for street photography. Regarding lenses I like the Panasonic Leica 12mm f1.4 or 15mm F1.7 primes, and for travel I'll take along either the Panasonic Leica 12-60mm f2.8-4.0 or the Oly 12-45mm F4 with the 15mm prime. I'm all for small, lightweight kit, and am happy with micro four thirds for my purposes, although the new Leica due to be launched in July looks interesting!!
Very enjoyable video! To answer your question, given the quality and resolution of today’s sensors and lenses, it often doesn’t matter if you use one or multiple lenses, unless their focal lengths are vastly different. I usually go out with one or two primes and end up cropping my images in post. Even if I used a zoom, I don’t think I’m good enough to get the perfect frame when shooting, so I’d probably crop those images too. So I definitely lean toward going out with less gear than more.
Liverpool Kev here...Two of my favourite photographers....and together so doubly great....great chemistry with you two going back years...different style but like Kai and Lock.....who I am sure you know...Take care......Thank you both so much for your videos...very much appreciated....fun too....Liverpool Kev
Cheers Peter, it’s Sean in Atlanta! It’s so good seeing you and Matti together again just like the good old days! You two were always some of my favourite Tubers! I’m not sure I like a silent shutter. One of my pleasures is to hear the shutter sound! And I have never done video, so photography is my passion and I want to go through the entire process ending with the sound of the shutter! But that’s just me. Thanks for a great video and please do more together. Sean
Towards the end of 2022 I rationalised my camera of choice to carry with me when going out to work, or walk the dogs etc. I bought a Leica Q2M. It has a fixed 28mm lens so no choice there, and I can only shoot in mono so no choice there either. Rather than finding it restrictive, it's been very liberating and made me think differently about what and how I shoot. I shoot it fully in manual, setting the ISO, aperture and shutter speed and use manual focus too and it has taken me back to my early days of photography and the sheer enjoyment it brought. So yes, I buy in to the benefits of lack of choice.
I have the same experience with my Fujifilm SX10. I kept zooming in and out with my 15-45mm lens and did not improve my creativity . Now I mostly use my 35 mm primelens and the results are improving. Better timing and more focused on storytelling.
If going the one lens street photography route, for flexibility, prefer a kit zoom to a fast prime to get the shot even if making sacrifices on image quality. Had this issue last week when only had the Oly 17mm f1.8 and could have done with a bit more reach.
super video. thanks to both of you from italy !!! after more than 10 years I re-discovered the pleasure to shot with the canon G16 (before I loved the oly xz2 and the lumix L100 II - yes, I love compact cameras !). not to small but still pocketable and with all I need, even for streetphoto. this in alternative to my various olympuses (I prefer the pen series :) )
You guys are a good advertisement for Finland in general. Now, if I was to fly into Helsinki from Pensacola, FL USA, would I suffice in the city (and country) for 2 weeks with my GR3x? Wait, I know I could make it work! My Ricoh, after all, IS my favorite camera. But I would certainly want to bring my X-Pan. I think also another film camera, my bulletproof Nikon F2.
I am doing a series on Brussels. Square format, b/w with the Gx9 and the Oly 17 mm f 1.8. For consistency it’s amazing. Now to get enough keepers for a photoblog.
A lot of people get cameras as gifts so if it's the only one you have then do the best you can with it. Other than that I think what you get should be for what you'll use it the most for. If it's mostly for street and travel then I think you should get something small, lightweight but also capable. I shoot Nikon. I have a z6 II and a z8. The z8 is a much better camera but it's also slightly larger and heavier. I tend to use a zone focus using either my 28mm or 40mm lens. I typically use f/5.6 to f/11 depending on the light condition. I know I can have everything in focus. A crop sensor body with a wide angle lens like an 18mm will give a larger depth of field even with the aperture opened up a bit. I also have a Canon T6s. It was my first DSLR. I don't think I would want to use it for street photography but I could of I needed to. I think Fujii makes a lot of choices for street photography. They're small, lightweight and have a lot of film simulations a lot of people like. I recently bought a Canon AE-1 with the 50mm f/1.8 lens. I'm looking for a 28mm lens for it. I'm just going to use it to play around with from time to time.
I think with trips that may not be repeated, take a variety of gear so you can handle anything. Closer to home where you will go repeatedly, you can pare down to just one lens and make different choices for different days. Usually I carry only one camera. Sometimes I take the trinity of zooms, sometimes primes. I usually find images that work well with each choice, so I do change lenses during the trip. Of course if I pick up the GW or Yashica-Mat 124, I am stuck with a fixed lens. That works too, depending on my mood. I guess I am just all over the place.
Right gear - not more gear. Proper camera + lens, walking shoes, and cheeze-cutter hat, I am good. A 28 to 35mm for shooting wide, or a 40mm to 50mm for tighter and more range, and I am there. Now and then taking out a MFT with a 45mm for the street is something to do, but the challenge is always met with more failed shots than keepers it seems, unless one is specifically looking for street portraits, long distance shots, or some art element involving bits of the visual. I am growing to really like the 40mm now as much as, or more than the days of shooting more 50mm. Have fun, and good laughs, you two -- Loren
This morning I just locked down five weeks of work in Paris this summer. As much as I would love to take the OM1 or z6, I’m thinking a GRiiix might be in my future. Between work cameras and tools space and time are limited.
Some people say that a zoom lens is by far better and they feel like they limit themselves to the possibilities of the type of photograph they want to take on the streets. They may be highly experienced at using that one zoom lens and can visualise what the photograph will look like before they take it. I am not that person. I like your advice about taking one camera and a fixed focal length prime lens. After all I can zoom with my feet instead and I can decide what focal length I want to try before I go out to take photographs. I think one could keep learning for their whole life on using different focal lengths on cameras. Also a big set up in a bag can hurt my shoulder a bit if I am not using it but have with me in case of a photographic opportunity if street photography is not my main reason for going out that day a smaller lighter camera is better for me under those circumstances. Thanks to both of you for this video.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The idea of a zoom in street photography is a good one. I have used zooms in the past for my street photography. Ricoh has two crop modes that I can use. With a push of a button I can use a 50mm or 71mm equivalent lens. It will have less megapixels.
@@ForsgardPeter that is so good with the Ricoh. In the meantime I could choose either focal length and not be distracted while I am taking photographs. I could also upscale the 71mm photograph for more resolution if I needed to. Thanks for your reply.
I've been using the TG-7 as my pocketable everyday carry. I'm really looking for something the size of the TG-7 but with interchangeable lenses. I have an E-PL9, but its a little too big. The Lumix GM1 looks promising, but the used prices are outrageous.
To use minimal gear as a self-given task can improve your photographic skills about „how to get a situation best into the camera“ as Matti does in personal „projects“ or walks. But when you go to a place you may never come again it is worthful to choose the best lens for a given point of view that you cannot choose or change or for a specific look concerning background size and bokeh. I wouldn‘t go on a far trip with only 1 camera 1 lens if there is a possibility to carry more. A friend of mine makes bicycle trips through countries all over Europe and has to use a minimalistic gear, so he takes a camera with a not changeable lens (zoom 1:3) as best for his documentation but without further photograohic purposes. More like in ancient photographic times. So choosing an amount of gear depends, as always, on the reason and purpose why you are making photos.
Cool video. I like both of you. So yes, options is the enemy of art. So yes, basically having too much gear = it's easier to get distracted, not pay attention, make mistakes. Agreed 1000%. My only disagreement with you both is on camera size- I have had many advantages when I go around with a smaller "toy" camera.
wondering if a 16mm RF on a R7 would give me 32MP of 26mm equivalent like the Ricoh. its something at least to do some street photos with, so theres some use out of my R7. i dont own a lot of gear, but id still like a camera thats reasonably pocketable. also hearing you guys speak in finnish i was wishing i understood the language. maybe i should start Duolingo and learn finnish :D
Nowadays, when I'm old and lazy I usually go with one body and one lens. In city street usually Z 9 and Nikkor Z 24-70/2,8. At cat shows Z 9 and Nikkor Z 70-200/2,8 for birds Z 9 and Nikkor Z 100-400.
I am taking 2 cameras and 4 lenses for my 9 week Euro trip, as I want to try different photography styles. However, on any 1 day, it will be 1 camera, 1 lens.
@@ForsgardPeter thanks for the comment. We are going to Turkey, Macedonia and, mainly, Greece. Within each country, though, we won't move around that much. So, each day, I can leave a lot of gear in our room. Our schedule also gives me the chance to try different photography styles in the same place.
Who is behind the camera what matters. If the viewers see the "a picture is worth a thousand words" image, do they ask what gear was used? No, but if they do, they are (amazing) gear reviewers on YT.
Experiment: Print 5 of your photos, and leave them in the cafe you are visiting in a week period. Which print, people will take most? Digital voting in a site, is different, than this kind of print voting. Salut
It is so good to see both of you talking and laughing about photography. It is friendly and casual.
Thanks. We had a lot of fun making this.
Thanks for having me. It was a good fun and we definitely shared the best tips in the RUclips universe😅
My pleasure having you. It always makes my channel better when tou visit it. Thanks!
It was great to see you both together again, and such a wonderful video, full of laughter and photographic thoughts! Not to mention seeing a bit of Helsinki! Loved it! All you needed was Robin!
Thank you so much!
cant agree more. Bought a GX3 for my retirement travels. Use it everyday. Never would have done that with all my other camera equipment. Taken my photography to a whole different level
As I became more drawn towards street and travel photography, I sold my Lumix G9 and now mostly use the smaller and lighter GX9 for street photography (I find the tilting screen very helpful), and the OM Systems OM5 for travel, mainly because it's small, lightweight and weather sealed. In wet weather I'll also use the OM5 for street photography. Regarding lenses I like the Panasonic Leica 12mm f1.4 or 15mm F1.7 primes, and for travel I'll take along either the Panasonic Leica 12-60mm f2.8-4.0 or the Oly 12-45mm F4 with the 15mm prime. I'm all for small, lightweight kit, and am happy with micro four thirds for my purposes, although the new Leica due to be launched in July looks interesting!!
Thanks for sharing.
Very enjoyable video! To answer your question, given the quality and resolution of today’s sensors and lenses, it often doesn’t matter if you use one or multiple lenses, unless their focal lengths are vastly different. I usually go out with one or two primes and end up cropping my images in post. Even if I used a zoom, I don’t think I’m good enough to get the perfect frame when shooting, so I’d probably crop those images too. So I definitely lean toward going out with less gear than more.
I totally agree with you.
I use my OM-1 and the 12-200 mm lens as my travel set up. I never have an issue.
PS I love Matti and his channel.
Dynamic DUO is back 👍👍👍
Dynamic range duo!😂
It’s like Kai and Lok but for us old geezers 😂
Thanks. Those two are big names!
Liverpool Kev here...Two of my favourite photographers....and together so doubly great....great chemistry with you two going back years...different style but like Kai and Lock.....who I am sure you know...Take care......Thank you both so much for your videos...very much appreciated....fun too....Liverpool Kev
I happy you liked the video. Comparing us to the two legends on RUclips is an honor.
Nice to see you together!
Thanks.
Cheers Peter, it’s Sean in Atlanta! It’s so good seeing you and Matti together again just like the good old days! You two were always some of my favourite Tubers!
I’m not sure I like a silent shutter. One of my pleasures is to hear the shutter sound! And I have never done video, so photography is my passion and I want to go through the entire process ending with the sound of the shutter! But that’s just me. Thanks for a great video and please do more together.
Sean
Thank you.
@@ForsgardPeter You are one of the greats, Peter! I have happily been subscribed to your channel for at least 7 years, I think.
Thanks! You must be one of the first ones that subscribed!
@@ForsgardPeter I know it was very early in your career so maybe I was that lucky!
When you take photographs, do you think in finish?
Interesting questions. If I am thinking of the channel and my video that I am making then it is english. But for anything else it is in Finnish.
small gear i think is always best great video guys !
Thanks! 👍. We agree.
Perkele! I didn't realize the subway in Finland was such a dangerous place.
Be aware of the cursing photographers!
Towards the end of 2022 I rationalised my camera of choice to carry with me when going out to work, or walk the dogs etc. I bought a Leica Q2M. It has a fixed 28mm lens so no choice there, and I can only shoot in mono so no choice there either. Rather than finding it restrictive, it's been very liberating and made me think differently about what and how I shoot. I shoot it fully in manual, setting the ISO, aperture and shutter speed and use manual focus too and it has taken me back to my early days of photography and the sheer enjoyment it brought. So yes, I buy in to the benefits of lack of choice.
Thanks for sharing. Leica Q2M sounds like a perfect camera for you.
I have the same experience with my Fujifilm SX10. I kept zooming in and out with my 15-45mm lens and did not improve my creativity . Now I mostly use my 35 mm primelens and the results are improving. Better timing and more focused on storytelling.
If going the one lens street photography route, for flexibility, prefer a kit zoom to a fast prime to get the shot even if making sacrifices on image quality. Had this issue last week when only had the Oly 17mm f1.8 and could have done with a bit more reach.
super video. thanks to both of you from italy !!! after more than 10 years I re-discovered the pleasure to shot with the canon G16 (before I loved the oly xz2 and the lumix L100 II - yes, I love compact cameras !). not to small but still pocketable and with all I need, even for streetphoto. this in alternative to my various olympuses (I prefer the pen series :) )
Thanks!
You guys are a good advertisement for Finland in general. Now, if I was to fly into Helsinki from Pensacola, FL USA, would I suffice in the city (and country) for 2 weeks with my GR3x? Wait, I know I could make it work! My Ricoh, after all, IS my favorite camera. But I would certainly want to bring my X-Pan. I think also another film camera, my bulletproof Nikon F2.
so cool to hear you speaking (swearing) finnish
I swear too much in my native language😂
Yes, I wanted to show how Matti really is! 😄
I am doing a series on Brussels. Square format, b/w with the Gx9 and the Oly 17 mm f 1.8. For consistency it’s amazing. Now to get enough keepers for a photoblog.
A lot of people get cameras as gifts so if it's the only one you have then do the best you can with it. Other than that I think what you get should be for what you'll use it the most for. If it's mostly for street and travel then I think you should get something small, lightweight but also capable. I shoot Nikon. I have a z6 II and a z8. The z8 is a much better camera but it's also slightly larger and heavier. I tend to use a zone focus using either my 28mm or 40mm lens. I typically use f/5.6 to f/11 depending on the light condition. I know I can have everything in focus. A crop sensor body with a wide angle lens like an 18mm will give a larger depth of field even with the aperture opened up a bit. I also have a Canon T6s. It was my first DSLR. I don't think I would want to use it for street photography but I could of I needed to. I think Fujii makes a lot of choices for street photography. They're small, lightweight and have a lot of film simulations a lot of people like. I recently bought a Canon AE-1 with the 50mm f/1.8 lens. I'm looking for a 28mm lens for it. I'm just going to use it to play around with from time to time.
I think with trips that may not be repeated, take a variety of gear so you can handle anything. Closer to home where you will go repeatedly, you can pare down to just one lens and make different choices for different days. Usually I carry only one camera. Sometimes I take the trinity of zooms, sometimes primes. I usually find images that work well with each choice, so I do change lenses during the trip. Of course if I pick up the GW or Yashica-Mat 124, I am stuck with a fixed lens. That works too, depending on my mood. I guess I am just all over the place.
Good advice.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks!
360 degree camera kind of challenges some claims here :) Would be glad to meet you one day and talk. I am living in Espoo, also fond of photography
Right gear - not more gear. Proper camera + lens, walking shoes, and cheeze-cutter hat, I am good. A 28 to 35mm for shooting wide, or a 40mm to 50mm for tighter and more range, and I am there. Now and then taking out a MFT with a 45mm for the street is something to do, but the challenge is always met with more failed shots than keepers it seems, unless one is specifically looking for street portraits, long distance shots, or some art element involving bits of the visual. I am growing to really like the 40mm now as much as, or more than the days of shooting more 50mm. Have fun, and good laughs, you two -- Loren
Thanks for dropping by.
This morning I just locked down five weeks of work in Paris this summer. As much as I would love to take the OM1 or z6, I’m thinking a GRiiix might be in my future. Between work cameras and tools space and time are limited.
Paris... nice!
Some people say that a zoom lens is by far better and they feel like they limit themselves to the possibilities of the type of photograph they want to take on the streets. They may be highly experienced at using that one zoom lens and can visualise what the photograph will look like before they take it. I am not that person. I like your advice about taking one camera and a fixed focal length prime lens. After all I can zoom with my feet instead and I can decide what focal length I want to try before I go out to take photographs. I think one could keep learning for their whole life on using different focal lengths on cameras. Also a big set up in a bag can hurt my shoulder a bit if I am not using it but have with me in case of a photographic opportunity if street photography is not my main reason for going out that day a smaller lighter camera is better for me under those circumstances. Thanks to both of you for this video.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The idea of a zoom in street photography is a good one. I have used zooms in the past for my street photography. Ricoh has two crop modes that I can use. With a push of a button I can use a 50mm or 71mm equivalent lens. It will have less megapixels.
@@ForsgardPeter that is so good with the Ricoh. In the meantime I could choose either focal length and not be distracted while I am taking photographs. I could also upscale the 71mm photograph for more resolution if I needed to. Thanks for your reply.
I've been using the TG-7 as my pocketable everyday carry.
I'm really looking for something the size of the TG-7 but with interchangeable lenses. I have an E-PL9, but its a little too big. The Lumix GM1 looks promising, but the used prices are outrageous.
To use minimal gear as a self-given task can improve your photographic skills about „how to get a situation best into the camera“ as Matti does in personal „projects“ or walks.
But when you go to a place you may never come again it is worthful to choose the best lens for a given point of view that you cannot choose or change or for a specific look concerning background size and bokeh. I wouldn‘t go on a far trip with only 1 camera 1 lens if there is a possibility to carry more.
A friend of mine makes bicycle trips through countries all over Europe and has to use a minimalistic gear, so he takes a camera with a not changeable lens (zoom 1:3) as best for his documentation but without further photograohic purposes. More like in ancient photographic times.
So choosing an amount of gear depends, as always, on the reason and purpose why you are making photos.
Well said.
Cool video. I like both of you. So yes, options is the enemy of art. So yes, basically having too much gear = it's easier to get distracted, not pay attention, make mistakes. Agreed 1000%.
My only disagreement with you both is on camera size- I have had many advantages when I go around with a smaller "toy" camera.
Hi, very informative video. What model cameras were you guys carrying?
We both had Ricoh GR3x.
@@ForsgardPeter Thank you. I own an Olympus XZ-1. Would this suffice compared to the Ricoh?
Yes, it can be compared to Ricoh. A bit older model, but XZ-1 is a good choice for street photography
wondering if a 16mm RF on a R7 would give me 32MP of 26mm equivalent like the Ricoh. its something at least to do some street photos with, so theres some use out of my R7. i dont own a lot of gear, but id still like a camera thats reasonably pocketable.
also hearing you guys speak in finnish i was wishing i understood the language. maybe i should start Duolingo and learn finnish :D
Go ahead and learn Finnish. It's one of the easiest to learn😀
R7 sounds ok to me. Use what ever you have and just start. Street Photography is a lot of fun.
Nowadays, when I'm old and lazy I usually go with one body and one lens. In city street usually Z 9 and Nikkor Z 24-70/2,8. At cat shows Z 9 and Nikkor Z 70-200/2,8 for birds Z 9 and Nikkor Z 100-400.
Thanks Puli for sharing your thoughts. Z9 and 24-70 is a great combo. It would slightly too heavy and big for me.
I am taking 2 cameras and 4 lenses for my 9 week Euro trip, as I want to try different photography styles. However, on any 1 day, it will be 1 camera, 1 lens.
That is a good choice. Enjoy your trip. What countries you are visiting?
@@ForsgardPeter thanks for the comment. We are going to Turkey, Macedonia and, mainly, Greece. Within each country, though, we won't move around that much. So, each day, I can leave a lot of gear in our room. Our schedule also gives me the chance to try different photography styles in the same place.
Sounds like a great plan.
Who is behind the camera what matters. If the viewers see the "a picture is worth a thousand words" image, do they ask what gear was used? No, but if they do, they are (amazing) gear reviewers on YT.
Now add in Robin Wong and you have the Three Musketeers doing good in the world of photography! Fun!
That would be great. Not sure how easy that would be to make it happen. Maybe some day.
Small gear for me at all times, nice and discreet when out on the streets with one lens.
Oh no, I can assure you that you do get noticed.
To be discreet you need shirt button cameras and such things.
omg yongnuo yn455 using mft lens smart phone
Yes that camera has an android operating system.
Experiment: Print 5 of your photos, and leave them in the cafe you are visiting in a week period. Which print, people will take most? Digital voting in a site, is different, than this kind of print voting. Salut
That would be a good idea.
Yo prefiero un equipo pequeño con el que te sientas agusto.
You guys are funny but you lost me about the 7-minute mark. 🙂
Thanks.