I love the slow mo step by step explanations you do here!!! I enjoy watching bouts for fun, but when I want to watch to learn how to do something better or not do something it is so hard to pinpoint anything because bouts move so fast. My son started Fencing a year ago and used your workouts daily, and now that I have joined him I get to see first hand why he would always go to your videos for drills and help to learn more:) Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into your videos!!! I would love to see more of these slow mo explanations for really anything with fencing:) Real bouts and breaking them down is so helpful for me to understand and then practice for myself how to do or not do things:)
Thank you for this thorough explanation of counter attacks! Sometimes these theoretical discussions are lacking during fencing practice, so it's great that I can catch up on it here!
Really really good video and that part about why you are searching for the blade and then recognising when to go is so spot on. Something I hadn't thought about but certainly will now!
Just want to say thanks and great work. I am just getting back into fencing after 15 years and have many bad habits and have forgotten a great deal, so these videos really help.
This is a brilliant video, a huge help! Now I recognise why my counter attacks sometimes work and sometimes don’t! Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to make this.
Thank you so much for this video. I use a lot of counter attacks but now I see that I made a lof of mistakes so I can learn a lot from this video. Thank you!
1. component's point not on me 2. timing just right on component stepping forward 3. left shoulder away component and stepping back leg behind, hand down to block the touch after a counter-attack
1. Counter attacks should not be talked about as reactive, reactive counter attacks are subject to anyone who sets a trap for the counter attack to happen. 2. Does not talk about half steps at all, which you clearly did a half step back in the first counter attack you accomplished. That is a crucial part when stepping up counter attacks 3. You didn't touch upon time and steps it takes to execute an actions and allow for a counter attack. This video doesn't focus enough on crucial parts of the set ups.
Fairfield Fencing thank you for pointing this out. Everything you stated is spot on and I didn’t do a good enough job pointing those things out. I will have to do a follow up video and point out those important aspects. Thanks again for your feedback!
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If the foil has a system of right o wayf, meaning the attack has priority over the counter-attack and the parry repose has priority over the attack. If a fencer point is not threading the target, as you stated his point was nowhere close to the target, then how can it be parried, thus how can it be an attack. If an attack loses priority by being parried, then the person being attacked has to have something to parry in order to gain priority. If you are coming forward and your point is not threading the opponent's target then that is preparing to attack. In most other combat sports and real life. If you talk or run up to someone with your weapon(fist,gun or anything ) not on target and you get hit.
This is an amazing video but how can this apply when you are left handed? Because when an left handed fencer does an counter attack by pivoting on the left leg it exposes the back too much.
As a leftie, I find you can often twist your torso towards the right, both lengthening your own (left) arm and also possible allowing your opponents foil to either miss the drastically reduced target, or role right off. Did it against some Japanese lad at Nationals last year. It also helps if you square up and make it seem like your torso is an easy target right before you make the attack/counter attack
You don't need to apply the specific movements here. Look at the general patterns: * Spot or (better) create a moment when your opponent is moving forwards but not ready to finish (blade moving away from target, mind not decided, etc) * Go directly to the target in that moment * Evade, break distance or close out the finish Exactly how you want to do that will depend on right vs left, relative heights, preferred actions for both you and your opponent, etc. But the same ideas apply to all effective counterattacks.
That's why the distance is so important. If you try this move from too far away, you will be turning your back to your opponent and you will get carded. However, when done from the proper distance you will be turning you back when you are right beside your opponent and won't be showing them your back.
Coach Tyler - I have a contention with what you're terming a "counter attack." Given that the rule book defines an attack by the presentation of a threat (the movement, offensively, of the blade away from the fencer towards the opponent, and that confers right-of-way), the first example of counter attack that you present here is more precisely AN ATTACK. At its most loose determination, it's an attack into preparation. Your opponent never established a threat with the blade, just advanced toward you, arm always bent, never even beginning to extend. Your second example definitionally IS a counter attack, as your extension/attack is in response to your opponent's, IF a Director regards the footwork during the lunge as the initiator of the threat (and as mentioned earlier), not the blade. Even you comment on your opponent's having pulled the weapon arm BACK during his action. Pulling the weapon arm back towards the body is NOT an offensive action, and cannot be regarded as such, so the end effect is that your opponent was, however briefly, just lunging towards you with no threat, and you hit him for it. It seems like one can go gallumping down the strip, and if the blade is located anywhere in front of the feet, that's now viewed as the "attack" - I suppose for it to be seen as obviously NOT an attack, one would either have to point the blade backwards, or drag it along the strip while advancing. Please produce a video explaining the current / "modern" determination of where the "attack" begins and when right-of-way is gained.
Nowadays yes, the dynamic and physical nature of fencing means the old straight arm blade play is not how foul is reffed. The feet do contribute to priority, and threatening the target is not applied strictly as an arm extension. There’s some great videos and examples on this website: www.quarte-riposte.com/foil-priority-for-newbies/ which explains how foil priority is currently reffed.
In modern foil, the rules have changed to where referees do look for the feet first before the arm. Example: Advance lunge now has priority over straight lunge with arm extended.
"In general, priority is a comparison of both fencers. Just because someone has a bent arm, or is not super direct doesn't mean that the other fencer automatically gets priority" www.quarte-riposte.com/foil-priority-rules-of-thumb-with-examples/
I have only have problems with this from the skills I’ve learnt Update: August 25th Still can’t do it, I’m still trying tho Update 2: may 14,2022 Getting closer, still bad at the timing
Great question! If you haven't already... Take a look at these two videos: ruclips.net/video/N4mjCoUCjFw/видео.html ruclips.net/video/4QN8AkhnAFU/видео.html Also, your grip has a lot to do with your precision. Make sure you are griping the handle with your thumb on top of the grip. Pinching the grip with the thumb and pointer finger. Also, you want to make sure your grip is light and relaxed. The harder you grip the blade the bigger, slower and less controlled your actions will be.
Finally a yt channel that makes tutorials to help fencers become better.
Anyone seeking to become a master of defense should start with this video. Well done
Can you make more foil videos? These are really helpful
I love the slow mo step by step explanations you do here!!! I enjoy watching bouts for fun, but when I want to watch to learn how to do something better or not do something it is so hard to pinpoint anything because bouts move so fast. My son started Fencing a year ago and used your workouts daily, and now that I have joined him I get to see first hand why he would always go to your videos for drills and help to learn more:) Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into your videos!!! I would love to see more of these slow mo explanations for really anything with fencing:) Real bouts and breaking them down is so helpful for me to understand and then practice for myself how to do or not do things:)
Thank you for this thorough explanation of counter attacks! Sometimes these theoretical discussions are lacking during fencing practice, so it's great that I can catch up on it here!
As an older fencer my spouse found this instructional video very helpful to offset the speed and aggression of more youthful opponents. Thanks.
Really really good video and that part about why you are searching for the blade and then recognising when to go is so spot on. Something I hadn't thought about but certainly will now!
Just want to say thanks and great work. I am just getting back into fencing after 15 years and have many bad habits and have forgotten a great deal, so these videos really help.
Thanks! I'm glad you are finding my videos helpful!
This is a brilliant video, a huge help! Now I recognise why my counter attacks sometimes work and sometimes don’t! Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to make this.
You're welcome! Glad you are finding my videos helpful!
Best video yet, you explain do well, thanks!
I keep getting hit by marching attacks so this is great advice. I will try it tonight. Thanks for the tips!
Thank you for these videos!
Good fencing videos are hard to come by. The fencing community benefits from your quality and up to date work.
These are terrific videos, I love them so much, thank you for sharing
Thanks buddy for the video and please post the videos of foil regularly
surely sabre should get priority >:)
Thank you so much for your videos! I started foil fencing lessons last year and this has helped me a lot.🤺⚔
Beautiful explained
Thank you so much for this video. I use a lot of counter attacks but now I see that I made a lof of mistakes so I can learn a lot from this video. Thank you!
Very useful video! Thanks man
And has lots of informational !!!
Thank you, your videos are very helpful.
Could you do a vid on defensive measures for sabre? Great work!
I will! Stay tuned and subscribe if you haven't already!
Can you please share videos with all the parries for foil in detail
1. component's point not on me
2. timing just right on component stepping forward
3. left shoulder away component and stepping back leg behind, hand down to block the touch after a counter-attack
For this kind of counter attack the 3rd rule applies on other it dosent it’s a variation of jt
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If anyone was confused
1. Counter attacks should not be talked about as reactive, reactive counter attacks are subject to anyone who sets a trap for the counter attack to happen.
2. Does not talk about half steps at all, which you clearly did a half step back in the first counter attack you accomplished. That is a crucial part when stepping up counter attacks
3. You didn't touch upon time and steps it takes to execute an actions and allow for a counter attack.
This video doesn't focus enough on crucial parts of the set ups.
Fairfield Fencing thank you for pointing this out. Everything you stated is spot on and I didn’t do a good enough job pointing those things out. I will have to do a follow up video and point out those important aspects. Thanks again for your feedback!
Fencer's Edge the best most diplomatic response i’ve ever read on the web. Touché Fencers Edge!, you’ve earned my subscription and a like. You should coach verbal fencing too!!
If the foil has a system of right o wayf, meaning the attack has priority over the counter-attack and the parry repose has priority over the attack. If a fencer point is not threading the target, as you stated his point was nowhere close to the target, then how can it be parried, thus how can it be an attack. If an attack loses priority by being parried, then the person being attacked has to have something to parry in order to gain priority. If you are coming forward and your point is not threading the opponent's target then
that is preparing to attack. In most other combat sports and real life. If you talk or run up to someone with your weapon(fist,gun or anything ) not on target and you get hit.
Informative video, thanks, but try to improve its quality, especially in slow mo, to make possible see blades!
Will do! Any amount you can contribute to my channel will greatly help get better filming equipment. www.patreon.com/CoachTyler
you are good bro very helpful for me... 😍😘 thank you
Thanks!
Can you make a few more counter attack samples for different blade positions from the opponent?
This is an amazing video but how can this apply when you are left handed? Because when an left handed fencer does an counter attack by pivoting on the left leg it exposes the back too much.
As a leftie, I find you can often twist your torso towards the right, both lengthening your own (left) arm and also possible allowing your opponents foil to either miss the drastically reduced target, or role right off. Did it against some Japanese lad at Nationals last year. It also helps if you square up and make it seem like your torso is an easy target right before you make the attack/counter attack
You don't need to apply the specific movements here. Look at the general patterns:
* Spot or (better) create a moment when your opponent is moving forwards but not ready to finish (blade moving away from target, mind not decided, etc)
* Go directly to the target in that moment
* Evade, break distance or close out the finish
Exactly how you want to do that will depend on right vs left, relative heights, preferred actions for both you and your opponent, etc. But the same ideas apply to all effective counterattacks.
Any concern about getting penalized for turning your back on your opponent during that spinning motion?
That's why the distance is so important. If you try this move from too far away, you will be turning your back to your opponent and you will get carded. However, when done from the proper distance you will be turning you back when you are right beside your opponent and won't be showing them your back.
Coach Tyler - I have a contention with what you're terming a "counter attack." Given that the rule book defines an attack by the presentation of a threat (the movement, offensively, of the blade away from the fencer towards the opponent, and that confers right-of-way), the first example of counter attack that you present here is more precisely AN ATTACK. At its most loose determination, it's an attack into preparation. Your opponent never established a threat with the blade, just advanced toward you, arm always bent, never even beginning to extend. Your second example definitionally IS a counter attack, as your extension/attack is in response to your opponent's, IF a Director regards the footwork during the lunge as the initiator of the threat (and as mentioned earlier), not the blade. Even you comment on your opponent's having pulled the weapon arm BACK during his action. Pulling the weapon arm back towards the body is NOT an offensive action, and cannot be regarded as such, so the end effect is that your opponent was, however briefly, just lunging towards you with no threat, and you hit him for it.
It seems like one can go gallumping down the strip, and if the blade is located anywhere in front of the feet, that's now viewed as the "attack" - I suppose for it to be seen as obviously NOT an attack, one would either have to point the blade backwards, or drag it along the strip while advancing.
Please produce a video explaining the current / "modern" determination of where the "attack" begins and when right-of-way is gained.
Nowadays yes, the dynamic and physical nature of fencing means the old straight arm blade play is not how foul is reffed. The feet do contribute to priority, and threatening the target is not applied strictly as an arm extension. There’s some great videos and examples on this website: www.quarte-riposte.com/foil-priority-for-newbies/ which explains how foil priority is currently reffed.
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In modern foil, the rules have changed to where referees do look for the feet first before the arm. Example: Advance lunge now has priority over straight lunge with arm extended.
"In general, priority is a comparison of both fencers. Just because someone has a bent arm, or is not super direct doesn't mean that the other fencer automatically gets priority"
www.quarte-riposte.com/foil-priority-rules-of-thumb-with-examples/
Who gets the point when you parry the attack and your risposte missed and the oponents attack arrived after your parry?
I have only have problems with this from the skills I’ve learnt
Update: August 25th
Still can’t do it, I’m still trying tho
Update 2: may 14,2022
Getting closer, still bad at the timing
Hey coach how can a saber fencer improve his precision with the blade?
My personal advice is to practice hitting multiple small targets rapidly, or try epee training for stop cut practice
Great question!
If you haven't already... Take a look at these two videos:
ruclips.net/video/N4mjCoUCjFw/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/4QN8AkhnAFU/видео.html
Also, your grip has a lot to do with your precision. Make sure you are griping the handle with your thumb on top of the grip. Pinching the grip with the thumb and pointer finger. Also, you want to make sure your grip is light and relaxed. The harder you grip the blade the bigger, slower and less controlled your actions will be.
Thank you both I will put to practice both advices
Jonathan from China
please post more video About foil 😍
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Why title is not Riposte?
A riposte is an attack directly following a parry, not an attack into your opponent's attack.
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That's really shitty fencing.