Muhammad Yasir al-Hanafi’s Tafwid Deception: Misusing Quotes From The Salaf (Hanafi Fiqh Channel)

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  • @ibmsulaymani
    @ibmsulaymani  15 часов назад +14

    The full subtitled video of Shaykh Sulṭān al-ʿUmayrī will be uploaded in the near future inshāʾallāh. An entire 1 hour 40 minute lecture dedicated to the issue of tafwīḍ al-maʾnā regarding Allāh’s attributes, it’s foundations, who introduced it first and why, and why its attribution to the Salaf is false.
    Original video of Shaykh Sulṭān al-ʿUmayrī: ruclips.net/video/EWlMW0s-YlE/видео.htmlsi=1IecMD3766CO7pd5
    My Twitter: x.com/ibmsulaymani?s=21

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 13 часов назад +3

      Sahaba, 4 mathab & 6 hadith imams, Tabari father of tafsir & Tahawi & so forth of the salaf us Saleh are Athari.
      Hasan Ashari repented in Usul Dayana but claimed Asharis try to claim them faIsely though they came before him.
      They will misquote them for faIse ideas like **Tafwid M3na bida** or say Allah's Attributes have no meaning.
      This erroneous from a common sense view as Allah appealed to the pagans that He should be their only God or one to serve above all as they acknowledged He is their only Lord & Creator & His Attributes in verses like Quran 43.8 so how could one appeal with what's not understood?
      An example of a misquote :
      “Verily, Allaah descends to the lowest heaven” and “Verily, Allaah will be seen on the Day of Judgement” and what is similar to these ahaadeeth, Imaam Abu ‘Abdillaah Ahmad bin Hanbal (rahimahullaah) said:
      “We believe in them and we attest to their verity, without how and without (giving) meaning for them ... We know the Messenger came with the truth. We do not reject what Allaah’s Messenger came with, nor do we describe Allaah with more than He has described Himself, without limits.
      - Lumat Itiqad, or Enlightened Creed by Ebn Qudama.
      Asharis will say look it says without how, but that is out of context and his top students can give right meaning.
      I heard Abu Hurairah recite this verse : “Allah doth command you to render back your trusts to those to whom they are due” up to “For Allah is he who heareth and seeth all things”. He said : **I saw the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) putting his thumb on his ear and finger on his eye.**
      - Abu Dawud 4728, Sunnah
      **Ibn Yunus said that al-Muqri said this pointing indicates “Allah hears & sees” means Allah has the power of hearing and seeing.**
      Abu Dawud said: This is a refutation of the Jahmiyyah.
      Ebn Qudama himself in same book says correct view is :
      We believe in this & what is similar, which has authentic chain & reliable reporters. We don't reject it nor negate it **nor change its meaning contradicting the literal apparent.** We do not compare it to attributes of creation nor the naming schemes of the innovators. & we know that Allaah, Glorified & Exalted, has no equal or comparison.
      ---
      Some Asharis follow Qadriya & isolate Allah's Attributes as deficient they say sounds physical & say is likening, again is erroneous.
      Allah exists and He created us so we exist, is this tashbi?
      If you affirm Allah exists unlike us why not affirm Hand? - If you insist Hand is physical by definition can you name something that exists that isn't physical?
      The Salaf also affirmed the attributes as the same w/o tashbih.
      Imaam at-Tirmidhee (d. 279H) said, **“It has been stated by more than one person from the People of Knowledge about such ahaadeeth, that there is no tashbeeh (resemblance) to the Attributes of Allaah, and our Lord, the Blessed and Most High, descends to the lowest heaven every night. So they say, ‘Affirm these narrations, have eernaan (faith) in them, do not deny them, nor ask how.’**
      The likes of this has been related from Maalik ibn Anas, Sufyaan ath-Thawree, Ibn ‘Uyainah and ‘Abdullaah ibn al-Mubaarak, who all said about such ahaadeeth, ‘Leave them as they are, without asking how.’ Such is the saying of the People of Knowledge from the Ahlus-Sunnah walJamaa’ah.
      However, the Jahmiyyah oppose these narrations and say, ‘This is tashbeeh!’ **However, Allaah the Most High, has mentioned in various places in His Book, the Attribute of al-Yad (Hand), as-Sam’ (Hearing), and al-Basr (Seeing), but the Jahmiyyah make ta’weel of these aayaat, explaining them in a way other than how they are explained by the People of Knowledge. They (the Jahmiyyah) say, ‘Indeed, Allaah did not create Aadam with His own Hand,’ they say that Hand means the Power of Allaah.”** 138 - Sunan Tirmidhee 662, Zakat, shar.

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 13 часов назад +1

      2ndary evidences like the bibIe or other kalam will have mix of truth & faIsehood and has to agree with Quran to be valid and relevant to be used properly. This is why ppl should study Islam first.
      Ibn Kathir shows a proper example of this is his tafsir which is the likely the most popular tafsir in the world of how to use ilmul kalam properly.
      I think it was for ayat Quran 23.91.
      ---
      What contradicts Quran & sunna is rejected.
      These are the 1st 2 evidences in Islam.
      The 3rd is ijm3 or consensus of the scholars starting with the sahabas.
      These 3 are binding & used in Aqida or creed belief which even **the avg. Muslim SHOULD know.**
      Proof for this is hadith where Muawiya got mad & struk his sIave and then felt bad.
      Prophet Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him was told & also feIt bad.
      He asked her where is Allah & who am I?
      She said Fi Sam3 or above the Heavens & you are His Rasul.
      Prophet Muhammad peace & blessing be on him said free her she is a believer.
      In another hadith it said she was mute & and pointed up & did other signals.
      The 4th evidence is qiyas or analogy based on how much an imam studied the text -
      This is more for fiq or physical worship.
      as long as it doesn't contradict the first 3 evidences it can be valid.
      Because different imams study different hadiths after Quran at times their qiyas differs.
      The laymen usually just follow one scholar in this as Quran 21.7 says.
      When they study more they can choose between imams - Quran 4.59.
      Fiq has two 2 types fatwas and hukm.
      Fatwas are usually rulings for pure ibada or worship for Allah alone.
      This is usually based on the 5 pillars of Islam.
      Hukm are rulings between ppl, which can become worship with the right intentions & sometimes in the end may involve ppl's customs based on verses in Sura Nisa.
      That was for some context.
      As for what's at hand.
      Alot of ppl don't know the distinction of following terms.
      They mix up mantiq or logic which is sometimes used in qiyas with kalam which is a logic mixed with personal bias* over Quran & sunna - very wrong thing to do, esp. In Aqida or things dealing with 6 pillars iman. This makes the laymen of many sects view the attributes of Allah as deficient or limited violating Quran 16.60, which ties Allah's high description with believe in afterIife as we will see Allah in the hereafter, Quran 75.22.
      This would contradict many ayat.
      Quran 5.3 - Islam is a complete religion.
      Quran 5.48 - Islam is a criteria/judge of other religions.
      Quran 4.82 - Anything from other than Allah will contradict.
      Thus not only is incorrect but will lead to further division.
      Few of examples of this taking place.
      1. Qadriya - Prophet Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him predicted this sect in hadith.
      They are known as the Majews in the ummah or ppl who make 2 gods, as majews believe in a god of light & dark guiding ppl to do eviI.
      Qadriya would say why do you say Allah knows the future, this means He allows eviI. However we see in Surah Kahf story of Kidr with Musa things appear eviI but there is a wisdom and even good at times behind things that appear eviI.
      2. An offshoot of this Qadriya is the Jahmis who would say Allah forces us denying our free will under Allah's will (Jabriyah) & deny Allah's Attributes saying this is likening Allah.
      3. Mutaxilah would deny Allah's Knowledge of the Qadr and deny Allah's attributes saying they are parts.
      Imams of this sect were behind what was called the mihnah fitnah.
      Their err is similar to the pagans Arabs in Quran 53.19 - see tafsir ibn Kathir for the refutation.
      4. Asharis would affirm the Qadr so in a very general sense reenter ahl sunnah, but would maintain the Qadriya pattern of judging Allah's attributes by greke kalam bias and contradict Quran and sunnah and themselves many times forfilling Quran 4.82.

    • @Hydrogen9999
      @Hydrogen9999 11 часов назад

      JazakAllaahu khair

    • @محمد-س3ك9ج
      @محمد-س3ك9ج 8 часов назад

      الله اكبر
      Can’t wait for that one !
      May Allah grant you the highest rank in Jannah habeebi Ibraheem

  • @Ab_Ismael
    @Ab_Ismael 14 часов назад +17

    Someone ask Muhammad Yasir to also read Tirmidhi’s commentary under hadith #662 in Jami’ Tirmidhi
    He (Imam Tirmidhi, رحمه الله) effectively would consider these mutakalimeen (ashari, maturidi, mutazili) from the progeny of jahmiya because they didn’t follow the salaf’s understanding of Allah’s ‎ﷻ sifaat.

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 12 часов назад +3

      Don't forget Abu Dawud 4728, Sunnah, I put it under the pin.
      There is also other evidence like Kitab Tafsir & Tawhid Bukhari & Sunan ibn Majah, kitab Sunnah chapter what the Jahmiya Deny & Ha'iyah by ibn Abi Dawud.

  • @mahtabraja3619
    @mahtabraja3619 5 часов назад +2

    Bro responded after 7 years may Allah guide him and us to the path of the Salaf

  • @Hydrogen9999
    @Hydrogen9999 11 часов назад +3

    May Allah preserve you and support your dawah, this is so important to convey the aqawl of the scholars especially when the fitnah is increasing. Alhamdulillahi Rabbil Aalameen

  • @hasan9.11
    @hasan9.11 13 часов назад +4

    May Allah save us from the fitnah of Maruridis

    • @Understand736
      @Understand736 12 часов назад +2

      Akhi I watched the whole video, can you explain what was going on????

  • @zeea3500
    @zeea3500 8 часов назад

    Jazak Allah khyr

  • @musfiqurkashem346
    @musfiqurkashem346 8 часов назад +3

    Yasir al-Hanafi is known for purposely leaving things out. Knowledge North's made a video he left off Abu Hanifa's actual position on kalam and telling his son to leave it. Very insincere individual and didn't even bother retracting or admitting he made a mistake.

    • @محمد-س3ك9ج
      @محمد-س3ك9ج 8 часов назад

      please can you send the video link akhi al kareem

    • @hahdgdgherfhx
      @hahdgdgherfhx 6 часов назад +2

      @@محمد-س3ك9ج Response to Hanafi Fiqh Channel: Why the Salaf condemned Kalam

  • @MohammadtanveerKagadagar
    @MohammadtanveerKagadagar 12 часов назад

    ❤❤❤❤❤ hard work may allah reward u

  • @QwertyKeyboarduk
    @QwertyKeyboarduk 2 часа назад

    The problem with the salafees and the asharees are you'll be arguing back and forth without any progress. Each group believes they are on the 'only' correct path. Even this response to them actually strawmans their actual position and after affirming the position of the salaf he says 'what they meant', so gives his interpretation. I much rather prefer to take the understanding of ibn qudamah on this matter as his understanding of the Atharee creed is more credible than the people of today. If his position is tafwid in both aspects and he attributes this to the hanbali creed, I'll take his word over the current day proponents of the 'Atharee creed'.

  • @Striker_242
    @Striker_242 13 часов назад

    BaarakAllahu feek

  • @rathernot6660
    @rathernot6660 7 часов назад +1

    The Maturidi are never consistent. It's because everything is based on intellect and not on narration. How can one individual claim following narration ie Qur'an and Sunnah and on another day claim it is okay to do be from the Ilm ul kalaam.

  • @Salafite
    @Salafite 8 часов назад +2

    I wonder why most of his books are DKI

  • @Gexxyfez
    @Gexxyfez 12 часов назад

    لا حاجة لنا إلى علم معنى ما أراد الله تعالى من صفاته جل وعز فإنه لا يراد منها عمل ولا يتعلق بها تكليف سوى الإيمان بها ويمكن الإيمان بها من غير علم معناها فإن الإيمان بالجهل صحيح فإن الله تعالى أمر بالإيمان بملائكته وكتبه ورسله وما أنزل إليهم وإن كنا لا نعرف من ذلك إلا التسمية

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 12 часов назад +1

      Quran 65.12 says that you may KNOW ALLAH has power over all things.
      Also look at Quran 43.8 or 29.61 to 65, Allah appeals to the pagans to make Him their God alone due to them acknowledging Allah is their Lord and His Attributes, so did Allah appeal to what is unknown and vain or do the pagans know more about Allah than the Sunnah?
      Either way this is a blasphemous ataq on the shahada.

    • @ibmsulaymani
      @ibmsulaymani  11 часов назад +7

      The same Ibn Qudāmah who:
      - Affirms a common meaning between our descriptions and Allāh’s descriptions (qadr al-mustarak)
      - Affirms the apparent (ẓāhir) that is understood from the text and rejects opposition to it
      - Affirms Allāh being above the throne
      - Supported his cousin ʿAbd al-Ghanī al-Maqdisī during his trial with the Ashʾarīs
      - Defended Abū Ismāʾīl al-Harawī from Ibn al-Jawzī’s accusations of tashbīh
      - Affirmed the meaning of Allāh descending to the lowest heaven
      - Affirms taking the ṣifāt literally as opposed to metaphorically
      - Was condemned by his Ashʾarī contemporaries for his views on the ṣifāt
      Ibn Qudāmah’s positions and terminologies require an exhaustive reading of all his texts, not a selective copy-paste from Dār al-Taḥqīq.

    • @Hydrogen9999
      @Hydrogen9999 11 часов назад +1

      @@ibmsulaymani Alhamdulillah. The Meaning is known, the how is a bid'ah

    • @conservativemuslim19
      @conservativemuslim19 10 часов назад +1

      Shaykh-Al-Islam Imam Abu-Uthman As-Sabuni Rahimuallad Clearly mentioned in his Aqeedah As-Salaf wa Ashaab Al-Hadith that we take the text at its apparent meaning.

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 10 часов назад

      ​@@Gexxyfez
      If you are saying the laymen who for example didn't study Allah's Attributes in depth and the scholar are both to obey Allah that is fine.
      But the scholar has virtue as Quran says, & one can learn Allah's attributes in depth at least with a general meaning from the text & scholar who is on the sunna, & is consistent can help organize points and save time like the Prophet Muhammad peace & blessing be upon him did in hadith Jibril. The scholars are inheritors of the prophet.

  • @rathernot6660
    @rathernot6660 7 часов назад

    But the hanafi just actioned the Howness of descent by indicating Allahs descent with his own hand action. Audhubillah. Who is the mujassimah now. He just contradicted himself in the kayfiyah. There again the hanafis don't believe Iman is action of the limbs.

  • @hahdgdgherfhx
    @hahdgdgherfhx 14 часов назад

    Then why are these people not Mufawwids if that’s what they think the Salaf believed

  • @zulqarnainmehmoodhanbli1016
    @zulqarnainmehmoodhanbli1016 15 часов назад +1

    Bring abdur Rehman Hassan and say to him to accept debate challenge of shiekh Yasir Al hanfi

    • @filmyfun1
      @filmyfun1 14 часов назад +8

      Yasir al Hanafi is a kid from india, and he should debate with his Low level people

    • @fahad_hassan_92
      @fahad_hassan_92 14 часов назад +7

      @@filmyfun1 these are not good manners. Allah yahdeek

    • @filmyfun1
      @filmyfun1 14 часов назад +3

      @@fahad_hassan_92 Lol why would anyone take a Deobandi kid from india seriously

    • @fahad_hassan_92
      @fahad_hassan_92 14 часов назад +7

      @@filmyfun1 Yes, you are right; but still it is not good manners. Nor are you giving a good impressions of the Muslims and/or the Salafiyyah. Despite that we do not care about our impression to others, but that we care about others who wish to see the truth, to see our good manners.

    • @zaidshaikh797
      @zaidshaikh797 14 часов назад +5

      Above video is enough for this reply, why you need Abdurehman Hasan for the debate ? that shows you people want to cause Fitna or entertainment. Yasir Hanafi Mufawwida sharing half baked knowledge. He only chose those imams of the Salaf in which he can justify his Tafwidh even though those specific statement from the Salaf are not making any tafwidh rather they were responding in the context of Mushabbiha and Muattila. And Shaikh explained it very well