Bishop Abioye achieved everything that any Pastor Can ever achieve, He would NOT have done better if hé had left Winners ! Abioye has NOTHING to regret ! He made It !
Dr Apoki, the man that makes so much sense, thank you for letting yourself be use of God, God bless you and renew your strength to be around for a very long time and keep doing what God created you to be 🙏
Not everyone is called to own a church too. The most important thing is to listen to God. If God ask you to support a ministry but you decide to leave and start up yours, you will have yourself to blame. Thank God these Bishops in questions are relevant even in their own space.
Thanks a million sir . From grandma of 13 in UK. We talk about your outstanding wisdom. I pray I meet with you and madam when next I’m in Nigeria. I’m susu maternity first child. Mum is late now. We truly enjoy all you do. Loves you all and GOD bless👏🏾👏🏾🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Wow, Susu Maternity, in Agagha Layout, my Mum worked with her then as Nurse(SRN), She was an adorable Mum, with her notorious pet Dog " them go tire" 😅😅😅😅
@@emmanuelmillerfakpor2294 wow this is true the dog 🐕 wow please what was your mum’s name and is she living by the grace of GOD. Wow wow 😮 the dog got me. I asked someone to look for all mum’s nurses and write something for her remembrance with pictures too please 🙏🏾
If you allow yourself to be used and dumped it's your fault. I worked for 15yeaes years in an organisation, i didn't like the way i was treated so i decided to start my own Business. Let God prosper it for me.
In Bis. Abioyes case no one is dumping another. He is still part of the commission and will function there not just as a branch pastor. You guys should rest abeg
Bishop Oyedepo does not use people and dumped them. Am sure he has another exit plan for them. Bishop Abioye is made, even at retirement he can never be poor.
This is the best counsel may God bless you sir.please don't let us speak evil of any man of God because we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ (Romans 14 vs 4 and vs 10 to 12; God bless you.
Good talk sir! The retirement from full-time official works for these bishops is essentially for their personal goods... I tell you the truth! FOR WE KNOW, ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD.., and it does not severe the covenant -relational bond among them. For greater sanity in the Church, everyone is subject to the guiding Mandate.
I really wept for his retirement till i had swollen eyes, it was an emotional moment for me as if ..but i pray God will continue to use him to do greater heights in life in mighty name of Jesus
Some of us don’t understand what it really means to be a genuine P.A. You do God’s work with joy, passion and a good heart, without asking anything for it, without announcing it to people. You invest all your bank savings, for God to bless your future and that you might be a blessing to mankind. Yet, we are all humans, even our dear God draws us to himself in love. For at the end, all that matter are love, continuity and the paradise(as it was). GREATER IS THE END OF A MATTER THAN THE BEGINNING THEREOF. Ecc7:8
Daddy Abioye is indeed worthy of emulation, a faithful servant.May God Almighty reward him mightily. My take is ensure you are called by God, He will give you grace to sustain.
Hello Sir. Well said many church founders look for who to use and dump. Initially they will go all out to either make you join them willfully or forcefully in the name that you have a calling.
❤❤❤❤ 👍 Brother Apoki your mentioning 222 Clifford road Aba brings back sweet memories 👍. Wasn't my church but i loafed around the area a lot attending weddings and the nearby stadium. 👍
Thank you Sir for your soundness. I have learnt from you that: Give your wife some space to contribute to her family too. No matter how nice the relationship between a boss and the second in command is in an organisation, there may exist hidden fears, insecurities and threats which can tactically lead to retiring the second in command. Although, Jesus and the early apostles may not retire a useful brother in the service of the Lord at Abioye's age, we must understand that churches nowdays are firstly run as organisations of men owned primarily by men and their families. Most often, in today's church, the interest of the church founder is sacrosancts, so God may be given second place in these churches when it comes to decision-making. We thank God for Papa Oyedepo and Papa Abioye for the great work in the vineyard of God
God bless you sir,I had an exit plan leaving NYSC entrepreneurship training center as a facilitator on time to create my brand,I make sure I had a clean sheet,no misbehaving with Female corp members, financial accountability etc.todsy am growing my farm gradually and am still impactful through trainings
This your message is valid but it has no correlation to the retirement of the bishops from active service. Even Bishop David Oyedepo is not in active service. He is the founder and apostle over the commission. Have you seen him being posted from church to church? Also these Bishops are no more in active service in the church governing body. They will retain a church to worship in. Like Bishop Abioye worship in LFC Lokogoma and not Goshen. (After ministering from church to church as apostolic visit). Just focus and learn. This is a way of laying the foundation down for the church government to continue after their Passing on. (The 3 Bishops) We don't want what happened to Arch. Bishop Benson Idahosa church to happen with the next Generation. This church will be strong till Jesus Comes
Why is it that everybody is getting it wrong. Churches are not supposed to belong to individuals or families, regardless of who started them. We must also know that there's no such thing as "God called me". According to 1Tim 3:2-5, a man has to desire becoming a Bishop and not called by God to become a Bishop. There's no such thing as retirement from the work of God. You only retire from business ventures.
Moses would not have had Joshua to continue while rests from the assignment,Timothy would not have been there to take over from Paul, Elisha would have been absent if no Elijah.... you just use head knowledge of the word retirement.... Living Faith Church is a standard organisation like the Catholics and Anglican...
@@gibsononoriode4581 one thing you said that I agree with is that, Living faith is an organization. By the way, neither catholic nor Anglican is a standard for the Church of Christ.
@@gibsononoriode4581 you see, the Church that Christ established using the apostles, has it's leadership and administrative structure as documented in the scriptures. It will take someone who is knowledgeable about the gospel of Christ to understand what I'm talking about.
@@Odubia please don't get me wrong here, Bishop Abioye is one teacher I love so much and I am not totally happy with the decision or what the mandate states as it were but let's not be sentimental about it as I am a member of the Church and to some extent understands what the leadership of the Church is trying to put in place for posterity. Please go look for the MANDATE aka (THE RED BOOK) in any Living Faith Church bookstore it will help to understand better....
What game was played on david Abioye? A man played a key role in a .ministry and stepped out when the ovation was loudest. He has become a global example of followership. He has become an example both in the secular a d religious arena.
For me I believe God want Abioye out but he didn't understand, that man had too much to do for God but not under Pst Oyodepo honestly, The world is waiting for him to Start his discipleship ministry like Bro Gbile, Honestly. From Onyebuchi Mike Okeh
@@godwinagih3254 Shut up and mind your business. Bishop Aremu and Bishop Abioye are Bishop Oyedepo's sons in the gospel. You don't know their relationship.
Bishop Abioye achieved everything that any Pastor Can ever achieve, He would NOT have done better if hé had left Winners !
Abioye has NOTHING to regret ! He made It !
You're very correct ❤
He might be bigger. You are not God. Only God knows everything. If he is happy with his decision good for him.
@@adesege1025did you hear or read is God that told him to serve him????? Read pls.....
Peace
How did you know that?
Myself and hundreds of thousands of people are in living faith because of abioye@@adesege1025
Have an exit plan.
Train your children
Empower your wife.
WORDS ON MARBLE
Lesson learned “it is better to own 1% of something than to manage 100% of anything”.
Say it a thousand times and the typical Nigerian still won't understand.
My Brother thank you
Exactly
A take home for me.👏
Dr Apoki, the man that makes so much sense, thank you for letting yourself be use of God, God bless you and renew your strength to be around for a very long time and keep doing what God created you to be 🙏
My brother,l like the way you put up the talk, very sensible man,you are always on point
God bless you ln Jesus Name 🙏
You're full of wisdom, sir
So much wisdom
Not everyone is called to own a church too.
The most important thing is to listen to God. If God ask you to support a ministry but you decide to leave and start up yours, you will have yourself to blame.
Thank God these Bishops in questions are relevant even in their own space.
Absolutely 110%
Exactly and nothing beats knowing where God wants you to be per time.
No one is called to own a church. Church is a nonprofit organization.but every one is called to be Christian
Amen! Thank you ma.
Just seeing you for the first time, sir you are a great man
God bless you Dr. Charles speaking words of wisdom
Thanks a million sir . From grandma of 13 in UK. We talk about your outstanding wisdom.
I pray I meet with you and madam when next I’m in Nigeria. I’m susu maternity first child. Mum is late now.
We truly enjoy all you do.
Loves you all and GOD bless👏🏾👏🏾🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Wow, Susu Maternity, in Agagha Layout, my Mum worked with her then as Nurse(SRN), She was an adorable Mum, with her notorious pet Dog " them go tire" 😅😅😅😅
@@emmanuelmillerfakpor2294 wow this is true the dog 🐕 wow please what was your mum’s name and is she living by the grace of GOD.
Wow wow 😮 the dog got me.
I asked someone to look for all mum’s nurses and write something for her remembrance with pictures too please 🙏🏾
Bless u
If you allow yourself to be used and dumped it's your fault. I worked for 15yeaes years in an organisation, i didn't like the way i was treated so i decided to start my own Business. Let God prosper it for me.
Amen
Good day,
No one used anyone please.
Or am I the person getting it wrongly.
I'm almost at that point in my life right now. 10yrs on😢
In Bis. Abioyes case no one is dumping another. He is still part of the commission and will function there not just as a branch pastor. You guys should rest abeg
Bishop Abioye and Aremu are still part of the commission. You guys should rest. They are retiring from heading branches to more elderly roles.
Serious commendation. To work with Bishop Oyedepo is not easy. Even from a distance you can see it that he will be a no-nonsense man
this one enred me so well Sir
God bless you sir.... You're right about Papa Oyedepo and Bishop Abioye... You're a great man of God
Always refreshing to hear your advice. You are indeed making an impact. God bless you sir.
Bishop Oyedepo does not use people and dumped them. Am sure he has another exit plan for them. Bishop Abioye is made, even at retirement he can never be poor.
Yes, they have a scheme.
What of his children and dependents?
@@ekeneajana ibdont understand you think church money is national wealth or what? Why do you assume Pst Abioye is an unfortunate person ?
What's wrong to allow him to continue teaching and preaching God's word if he is still able
God bless you
Keep delivering the wisdom. It’s your anointing sir. The Lord will keep and guide you to the end, IJMN 🙏🏽
I like this message.
It’s telling the raw message.
Looks like starting a ministry is like opening a company
Words of wisdom. God bless you sir.
The blunt truth that won’t be heard any other way from any other source ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
This is just the plain truth. God bless you for your words of wisdom. This is FACT
This is the best counsel may God bless you sir.please don't let us speak evil of any man of God because we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ (Romans 14 vs 4 and vs 10 to 12; God bless you.
I never stop learning from your teaches and humble advice it has really helped me plan . Thanks
Good talk sir! The retirement from full-time official works for these bishops is essentially for their personal goods... I tell you the truth! FOR WE KNOW, ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD.., and it does not severe the covenant -relational bond among them. For greater sanity in the Church, everyone is subject to the guiding Mandate.
Well said 👍
Word of wisdom, God bless you sir 🙏
God bless u Sir... Just came across... Last week and I've benefitted so much. God will continue to increase u Sir
I really wept for his retirement till i had swollen eyes, it was an emotional moment for me as if ..but i pray God will continue to use him to do greater heights in life in mighty name of Jesus
Thank you so much sir for your words of wisdom. God bless you sir
Some of us don’t understand what it really means to be a genuine P.A. You do God’s work with joy, passion and a good heart, without asking anything for it, without announcing it to people. You invest all your bank savings, for God to bless your future and that you might be a blessing to mankind. Yet, we are all humans, even our dear God draws us to himself in love. For at the end, all that matter are love, continuity and the paradise(as it was).
GREATER IS THE END OF A MATTER THAN THE BEGINNING THEREOF. Ecc7:8
I respect you dearly so much for this objective and factual analysis and advise @Dr Apoki. I hail you sir.
Daddy Abioye is indeed worthy of emulation, a faithful servant.May God Almighty reward him mightily. My take is ensure you are called by God, He will give you grace to sustain.
Hello Sir. Well said many church founders look for who to use and dump. Initially they will go all out to either make you join them willfully or forcefully in the name that you have a calling.
I remember Dr Apoki visiting CPM those days and a good author ❤
❤❤❤❤ 👍 Brother Apoki your mentioning 222 Clifford road Aba brings back sweet memories 👍. Wasn't my church but i loafed around the area a lot attending weddings and the nearby stadium. 👍
Dr , you have a way of passing the message deeply, tough but in a conducive manner . You made my day and God will continue to protect and bless you.
My take : "Train your children, empower your wife. Plan your exit" 🔥 🔥 🔥
Thank you Sir for your soundness. I have learnt from you that: Give your wife some space to contribute to her family too. No matter how nice the relationship between a boss and the second in command is in an organisation, there may exist hidden fears, insecurities and threats which can tactically lead to retiring the second in command. Although, Jesus and the early apostles may not retire a useful brother in the service of the Lord at Abioye's age, we must understand that churches nowdays are firstly run as organisations of men owned primarily by men and their families. Most often, in today's church, the interest of the church founder is sacrosancts, so God may be given second place in these churches when it comes to decision-making. We thank God for Papa Oyedepo and Papa Abioye for the great work in the vineyard of God
God bless you sir,I had an exit plan leaving NYSC entrepreneurship training center as a facilitator on time to create my brand,I make sure I had a clean sheet,no misbehaving with Female corp members, financial accountability etc.todsy am growing my farm gradually and am still impactful through trainings
I like the way you apply wisdon and smile Sir🎉
Your wisdom is from another level. God bless you sir
thank you Sir....more grace
More Grace and Wisdom!
We only serve GOD by serving our fellow humans.
I always get motivated whenever I listen to you Dr. May the Lord bless you
Blessings Grandpa.
You have spoken well, Doctor.
Quite informative and timely.
God bless you sir.This is surely divine wisdom and insight.What you have shared will save marriages and ministers if men can take heed .
THE LORD WILL STRENGTHEN YOU MORE AND MORE. MORE WISDOM SIR.
You made a very great point sir, more wisdom in Jesus name Amen
Very wise man with very wise words
Very intelligently presented. God bless you sir.
You have spoken the true,if service is done in humility and sincerely there is no shaking,more grace
I like your contribution and I learned from it
It is important to understand that ours is ours but mine is mine.
U are doing well sir ❤
I LOVE YOUR ADVICE SIR, GOD BLESS YOU TOO SIR.
I hail you sir
Amazing insight from the Ogbunigwe
Thanks you SR for advises
You are right sir
They only retired as vice president of the church, they are still in winners chapel oooo Bishop Abioye still teach this last Wednesday midweek service
Don’t mind them, they are present pressing issues in their life’s that they have not attended to, Bishop Abioye is made and blessed 😊
Great talk, Dr. Bishop Abioye is a great man, he is one of his kind.
Wisdom ❤❤❤❤
God bless you. The Youth need to learn.
Chaiiiiiiii!
This OT is one in a million.
Thank you so much Sir
Great wisdom sir
Much More Grace to You Sir.
Thank you Sir
Words of wisdom
You are wise doctor
Dr Apoki,
Nice to see you again. You're still waxing strong and looking youthful 💪. Keep it up and continue to inspire your audience 👍.
Thank you so much sir, Iam encourage sir by your wisdom words.
Truth be said in principle, but the ministry head may leave you with nothing on retirement as they at times believe the ministry is all about them!?!
Good talk sir.
I love you Sir. Always on point.
This is too much wisdom !
Well said. God bless Dr. Apoti
Beautifully said sir.
thank you Dr Akpoti
Timely and insightful words
Just shared to bless someone
Absolutely even working for a company self.
Don’t believe you will be there forever.
Bitter Truth
I have downloaded this video to reflect on it daily...
Correct talk
222 Clifford Road Aba was my school in the 70's. And that was Assemblies of God Primary School.😅(The Church was located there)
GOD BLESS YOU SIR.
I've been impacted
This amazing God bless you sir
Well said.
Thank you sir
God bless you sir
This your message is valid but it has no correlation to the retirement of the bishops from active service. Even Bishop David Oyedepo is not in active service. He is the founder and apostle over the commission. Have you seen him being posted from church to church? Also these Bishops are no more in active service in the church governing body. They will retain a church to worship in. Like Bishop Abioye worship in LFC Lokogoma and not Goshen. (After ministering from church to church as apostolic visit). Just focus and learn. This is a way of laying the foundation down for the church government to continue after their Passing on. (The 3 Bishops) We don't want what happened to Arch. Bishop Benson Idahosa church to happen with the next Generation. This church will be strong till Jesus Comes
Every decision make is for Oyedepo sons to be the sole heirs to General Overseers. Nothing more. Do people need to be retired in the ministry of God?
@@adesege1025Yes, sir. People retire oooooooooooooooooooo.
@adesege1025 keep saying what you don't know... The man has done his own and thank God he doesn't have his eyes of worldly and material things.
@@giftedchild9490 keep worshipping people thinking you are worshipping God.
@adesege1025 you have spoken the truth the man is creating space for his children to take over the influence
Great analysis, doc!
Why is it that everybody is getting it wrong. Churches are not supposed to belong to individuals or families, regardless of who started them. We must also know that there's no such thing as "God called me". According to 1Tim 3:2-5, a man has to desire becoming a Bishop and not called by God to become a Bishop. There's no such thing as retirement from the work of God. You only retire from business ventures.
Moses would not have had Joshua to continue while rests from the assignment,Timothy would not have been there to take over from Paul, Elisha would have been absent if no Elijah.... you just use head knowledge of the word retirement.... Living Faith Church is a standard organisation like the Catholics and Anglican...
@@gibsononoriode4581 one thing you said that I agree with is that, Living faith is an organization. By the way, neither catholic nor Anglican is a standard for the Church of Christ.
@@Odubia but you agree that the Bible is a standard if perhaps you are believer of the content of the Bible....
@@gibsononoriode4581 you see, the Church that Christ established using the apostles, has it's leadership and administrative structure as documented in the scriptures. It will take someone who is knowledgeable about the gospel of Christ to understand what I'm talking about.
@@Odubia please don't get me wrong here, Bishop Abioye is one teacher I love so much and I am not totally happy with the decision or what the mandate states as it were but let's not be sentimental about it as I am a member of the Church and to some extent understands what the leadership of the Church is trying to put in place for posterity. Please go look for the MANDATE aka (THE RED BOOK) in any Living Faith Church bookstore it will help to understand better....
Well said sir,❤
God bless you
What game was played on david Abioye?
A man played a key role in a .ministry and stepped out when the ovation was loudest. He has become a global example of followership. He has become an example both in the secular a d religious arena.
For me I believe God want Abioye out but he didn't understand, that man had too much to do for God but not under Pst Oyodepo honestly, The world is waiting for him to Start his discipleship ministry like Bro Gbile, Honestly. From Onyebuchi Mike Okeh
Bishop Oyedepo has a plan for both Bishop Abioye and Bishop Aremu. He didn't abandon them. Watch the news soon.
He don't want any ot them to succeed him but one of his son's should.
Family business
@@godwinagih3254Yes, it’s family business, cry about it. Spreading ignorance as usual
@@godwinagih3254 Shut up and mind your business. Bishop Aremu and Bishop Abioye are Bishop Oyedepo's sons in the gospel. You don't know their relationship.
Says who? Go and buy the mandate. Even the children don't have the possibility of taking over. So stop your hate@@godwinagih3254
@@godwinagih3254I totally disagree with your assertion, Bishop Abioye controls all Abuja congregations and some parts of the Northern state.
Great information
My was a pastor in the Anglican communion. When he got to age of retirement they retired him