Why Didn't the Church Launch a Crusade On The Vikings?

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  • @mdccxcii6340
    @mdccxcii6340 3 года назад +541

    Me watching this video: Wow, a discount on Viking jewelry!
    My Viking ancestors watching a monastery: Wow, a discount on Christian jewelry!

    • @JensontheBasterd
      @JensontheBasterd 3 года назад +7

      where in africa are u from?

    • @Adelwapen04
      @Adelwapen04 3 года назад +14

      pablo what the fuck you saying, i and my follow Scandinavians are as far from africa you can come!🇸🇪🇳🇴🇩🇰💪🏻

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 3 года назад +2

      Free jewelry!

    • @leoen7960
      @leoen7960 3 года назад +24

      @@JensontheBasterd question... how are all the others not vikings when the first recording or writing of a viking on england was from norway?... do keep in mind that viking is a word that did start in norway as both a job title and another way of saying raiding.. also the swedish did not do too much in britain as most of them invaided parts of russia, poland and other baltic countries yet most of them never came home as they mostly just stayed there... aside from that everyone could be a viking as long as they did a viking soo yeah..

    • @mace8873
      @mace8873 3 года назад +25

      @@JensontheBasterd You have no idea how wrong you are, and I'm Danish by the way...

  • @MrPeterKJ
    @MrPeterKJ 3 года назад +2993

    Ironically when the Crusades became a thing, the Viking's direct descendants, the Normans. were its backbone.

    • @Nimroc
      @Nimroc 3 года назад +424

      Not only that but the scandinavian kingdoms also took a major part in the northern crusades.

    • @mikavikesland9611
      @mikavikesland9611 3 года назад +143

      @@Nimroc Hail Sigurðr Jórsalafari! The Norwegian Crusader King 👑

    • @alpharius8264
      @alpharius8264 3 года назад +159

      Not to mention that king sigurd of norway himselve took part in it and was the first king to leave his homeland to do so

    • @kmeanxneth
      @kmeanxneth 3 года назад +57

      angry Finnish sounds XD

    • @alpharius8264
      @alpharius8264 3 года назад +15

      @Al Strider they Spike French aß a native tongue adobted the French Vincent of knighthood and wäre of French descebd aß the vikings intermarried with loyal einen Tiere was Hardy anythink skandanivian abou them

  • @southernwanderer7912
    @southernwanderer7912 3 года назад +791

    I've also read that Gunthrum was extremely superstitious, so his army's defeat by the Christians was a "sign" that he needed to convert.

    • @loke6664
      @loke6664 2 года назад +86

      The Norse pagans had a very different view on these things. As most of them saw it, there were many Gods and Goddesses but you made a deal with one of them. You did your rituals (like pray) to them and they deliver their part of the deal, like helping you win your battles.
      If they didn't deliver, then you changed your main deity and that is likely what Gunthrum did. It is pretty unlikely he suddenly became monotheistic, foreign priests complains over that in Scandinavia even in the 14th century (or at least in Sweden) but I think the church took it's win when they could.
      So yeah, he likely honestly went from worshiping Odin to White Christ. That was not that big of a deal to a viking, as long as they felt that Christ delivered they were faithful to him but we have plenty examples of vikings that switched back to a Norse deity when they felt Jesus didn't provide his part of the bargain.
      The vikings were practical people and it might sound like an odd way of thinking today, particularly for a none Scandinavian, but it worked for them.
      By the year 1000 all Scandinavian countries except Sweden (and Finland but they weren't Norse and had their own a bit odd mythology) were Christians. In 1137 when a cathedral was built over the former pagan temple (which was a late thing in itself) in Uppsala Sweden was officially Christian even if Magnus Ladulås had 3 crusades inside his own country against pagans in the mid 1200s and Småland, Värmland and a few other places had plenty of pagans even further.
      There were trials in Sweden against pagans up to the 1500s but the last one was in the mid 1700s.
      My grandad who would have been almost 100 if he still was alive was super Christian, his bedroom was full of angels and a huge painting of Jesus. In his cellar though he had an iron statuette of Thor (he was a fisherman when he was younger).
      That is Swedes though, the Danes took more to Christianity, maybe because they were a smaller country with less population, open terrain and at least today, 75% live in the 3 largest cities and over half of them in the capital. Or maybe it just is because Danes and Swedes are a bit different.

    • @southernwanderer7912
      @southernwanderer7912 2 года назад +8

      @@loke6664 Great feedback. Thank you for that information.
      I also remember reading that Gunthrum relied heavily on the runes to make decisions. So I thought, "Whoever reads the runes, actually rules."

    • @Pedro_Colicigno
      @Pedro_Colicigno 2 года назад +5

      Just to point out, that is a very basic description of how Christianity became the religion of Rome... It is an old code, but it checks out...

    • @loke6664
      @loke6664 2 года назад +8

      @@Pedro_Colicigno It is a bit more complicated then that there. Constantine did have plenty of political reasons to pick a monotheistic religion he had more control over but sure, he needed to win his victories for the whole thing to stick.
      But Christianity in Roman times were very different from what it was during Harald's time, just as it have evolved today.
      Saint Augustine was probably the most influential there, the man was a philosopher and the church doctrines changed with him.
      The thing is that the Bible might be very similar today as it was during Roman times but people have interpreted it to work for their time. And if you act the same during Constantine's time, Harald's and ours you would stick out like a sore thumb during 2 of these times.
      Rome during Constantine were a relatively strong superpower and final say was the Emperors. Viking age England had not really any king that strong so just sending a missionary to a king was not enough.
      For instance were the Swedish king Olof Skötkonung baptized (even if we of course could wonder how genuine that was) but Sweden was still mainly pagan for another 130 years after that, people had to be converted one by one since the king just didn't have the power to force people to convert.
      Most history books like to simplify things but the process of changing religion in Europe took a lot of time and work and the vikings were more stubborn then anyone else. You couldn't just force someone like Guthrum or HArald Hårdråda to believe in anything they didn't feel like, those were strong independent persons.

    • @Pedro_Colicigno
      @Pedro_Colicigno 2 года назад +4

      @@loke6664 I in no way think it was as simple as that, it is just I found funny how is usually accept (tho not 100% accurate) that Constatine used the Chi Ro simbol on their shields in the battle of Milvian Bridge and won, claiming it was God showing favor to them (not native english, sorry), and one thousand years later a very similar thing happened. I know is a very crude simplification of the occurences in both cases

  • @ArkadiBolschek
    @ArkadiBolschek 3 года назад +2163

    As an English major who studied early Anglo-Saxon literature in college, I can confirm that Christian preachers described Jesus to the northern Germanic peoples as a young warrior who endured his torments showing scorn and defiance to his torturers. Jesus' death on the cross was also described in similar terms to Odin's self-sacrifice on the tree. So yeah, they went out of their way to explain Christianity in terms that were familiar to them.

    • @yagami1134
      @yagami1134 3 года назад +151

      They did the same thing here in Mexico de hecho

    • @willmosse3684
      @willmosse3684 3 года назад +262

      @@yagami1134 If it’s a winning strategy, don’t change it

    • @willmosse3684
      @willmosse3684 3 года назад +22

      @YeshuaTheSon Gonzo Lol. Same shit, different bucket

    • @willmosse3684
      @willmosse3684 3 года назад +6

      @YeshuaTheSon Gonzo Yeah yeah. Whatevs bro. No one here is interested

    • @willmosse3684
      @willmosse3684 3 года назад

      @YeshuaTheSon Gonzo Where? Boring land?

  • @matthewneuendorf5763
    @matthewneuendorf5763 3 года назад +2667

    Simple answer: Crusading wasn't really a thing until after the Christianization of the Norse was already well under way.

    • @TheNorwegian
      @TheNorwegian 3 года назад +293

      Also, the end of the Viking Era is generally considered to have been the battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066, while the crusades didn't start until about 30 years after that....

    • @LORDMEHMOODPASHA
      @LORDMEHMOODPASHA 3 года назад +191

      Plus there weren't 2 popes trying to "Out-Pope" each other.

    • @cariopuppetmaster
      @cariopuppetmaster 3 года назад +174

      @@TheNorwegian by Stamford bridge a large amount of the Vikings would have been probably Catholic

    • @TheNorwegian
      @TheNorwegian 3 года назад +100

      @@cariopuppetmaster The vast majority

    • @TheOldBlackShuckyDog
      @TheOldBlackShuckyDog 3 года назад +4

      Ye.

  • @Itsstillmeguys
    @Itsstillmeguys 3 года назад +557

    I live in norway and we where tought and shown in school how jesus was paired with norse gods and put in the same pantheon, old stave-churches including icons of jesus alongside odin and the other gods

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  3 года назад +161

      Great piece of information! So my intuition was correct! Thanks!

    • @maxvarjagen9810
      @maxvarjagen9810 3 года назад +117

      @@metatronyt Vikings would have had an intuitive understanding of Trinity as well. Its in the Valknut. Three knots in one. Father-Son-Spirit also mirrors the Odin-Thor-Frey tribunal at Uppsala. The idea goes back to Romulus.

    • @yonathanrakau1783
      @yonathanrakau1783 3 года назад +22

      somesort, my people once a ruthless pagan who had the tradition of chopping other people head after we converted to christianity, some of us still practice rituals and magic yet are catholic its complicated, the pagan forest carnival tradition still exists to this day and our people mainly still somewhat ruthless till today but that human sacrifice and head chopping gone, mainly

    • @nox5555
      @nox5555 3 года назад +30

      @@metatronyt Christianity was adapted to deal with norse religion before. The Saxon Wars were pretty much crusades against germanic pagans.

    • @wheelman1324
      @wheelman1324 3 года назад +24

      I’ve heard that, too. Polytheistic religions are easy to convert to a monotheistic religion than vice versa. The Danes would convert to Christianity to get better trade deals in Catholic lands but just add Jesus to the pantheon in their practice. As the Norse intermingled with the Franks and Anglo-Saxons the generations would drift more toward Christianity over time.

  • @historywithhilbert146
    @historywithhilbert146 3 года назад +1624

    Thank you for the mention my dude - loved the video!

    • @irgendwer3610
      @irgendwer3610 3 года назад +80

      gotta love that you guys keep mentioning each other, I love this community

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  3 года назад +139

      My very pleasure! Keep up the good work!

    • @eillyouredead1865
      @eillyouredead1865 3 года назад +3

      @@irgendwer3610 I do as well I mean this community pushed me over the line to go to HEMA I was already interested but now I am starting to exercise to prepare for the HEMA school near me.

    • @heatrayzvideo3007
      @heatrayzvideo3007 3 года назад +1

      Love your videos too

    • @jeremyday9056
      @jeremyday9056 3 года назад +1

      Hell yeah, its History with Hilbert!

  • @simtexa
    @simtexa Год назад +40

    Keep in mind that the Norse worshipped far more than just warrior gods. A lot of the gods, especially the very popular Vanir, were more fertility gods than anything. The notion of good harvests and bountiful resources was probably even more promising to them as far as religion goes, than war prowess, even if that was perhaps relevant to actual viking raiders.

  • @VarangianBodyguard
    @VarangianBodyguard 3 года назад +1492

    "Join Christianity, we have Christmas discounts ☦ ➕ ⚖ "
    Vikings : 😮

    • @ilcondottierocartografo6770
      @ilcondottierocartografo6770 3 года назад +15

      lmaoo

    • @SeanWinters
      @SeanWinters 3 года назад +25

      And pretty women!!!

    • @truthseeker1941
      @truthseeker1941 3 года назад +67

      Jokes on you, christmas celebration derives from yule (germanic/nordic pagan tradition)

    • @SeanWinters
      @SeanWinters 3 года назад +39

      @@truthseeker1941 Why do you think the nords took to it so quickly?

    • @Sherool
      @Sherool 3 года назад +62

      @@truthseeker1941 Not quite accurate, the date was originally picked to overlap with the ancient Roman Saturnalia holiday around the winter solstice and Yule was also a winter solstice celebration (most cultures had festivals around this time) so yes in Northern Europe there are a lot of Yule influences down to the name of the holiday, but Yule is not the "inspiration" for Christmas as such. Early Christians deliberately decided to celebrate the birth of Christ around the winter solstice to take the place of existing pagan solstice holidays makes it a lot of an easier sell to the newly converted, just keep celebrating like you always have, just tweak the theme a little and add a church visit to the todo list.

  • @PrincessStabbityPLS
    @PrincessStabbityPLS 3 года назад +1247

    I thought it was because they hadn't unlocked the Crusade tech yet.
    Just like it took 200 more years to figure out Primogeniture. Or so I've heard.

    • @shaolinshowdown1123
      @shaolinshowdown1123 3 года назад +18

      Lmaooooo, tech tree hahaha video game now huh?

    • @publiopaolacci495
      @publiopaolacci495 3 года назад +104

      @@shaolinshowdown1123 crusader kings😂

    • @CDSAfghan
      @CDSAfghan 3 года назад +21

      Tell that to the pope in my game

    • @ousamadearudesuwa
      @ousamadearudesuwa 3 года назад +1

      @@publiopaolacci495 man I was only playing as a Grandmaster of a Crusading Order.

    • @perfectibility999
      @perfectibility999 3 года назад +21

      Primogeniture wasn't a native practice of the Germanic tribes. It was introduced by Christian advisers as the tribes were converted (albeit introduced gradually and with a lot of resistance), to prevent the Germanic kingdoms from falling into civil war or even fracturing after the death of a king. For example, take Charlemagne's Carolingian empire. It was cut into three after his death instead of remaining united.

  • @righteousviking
    @righteousviking 3 года назад +1676

    Norsemen: We're Christians now, so no crusade please.
    Poland and the Baltic states: You guys are getting spared?!

    • @lavrentivs9891
      @lavrentivs9891 3 года назад +93

      Many balts were Orthodox christians though, that's worse than heathens ;)

    • @echoes222
      @echoes222 3 года назад +134

      huh? Poland was Christianised in 966. Actually, Poland had launched their own crusades (f.e. against Suduvians) :P

    • @righteousviking
      @righteousviking 3 года назад +102

      @echoes222 would you mind going back in time and letting the Teutons know?

    • @essexclass8168
      @essexclass8168 3 года назад +29

      @@echoes222 Constantinople was christianised in 324 AD

    • @Espen_Danielsen
      @Espen_Danielsen 3 года назад +5

      No... But our prowess in battle has made them hire us to beat some Christianity into all of you... And beside, we got reel good gifts and trade deals if we where willing to include this Jesus dude in or pantheon.
      Ops... Sorry! Did I accidentally kill you while you where busy talking to me? Surprise! Our favorite tactic!

  • @EerieV23
    @EerieV23 3 года назад +28

    I could see the Idea of Ragnork melding well into the Book of Relavation.

    • @Xerxes2005
      @Xerxes2005 2 года назад +4

      I've read that Ragnarök was introduced by Snorri Sturluson, who was already a Christian when he wrote the Prose Edda. The story of Ragnarök may have very well been influenced by the Book of Revelations.

  • @ICaligvla
    @ICaligvla 3 года назад +259

    When you are playing breath of the wild and get the sudden urge to talk about a crusade against vikings.

    • @Sora-dragneel
      @Sora-dragneel 3 года назад +18

      relatable

    • @thulegezelschap5884
      @thulegezelschap5884 3 года назад +19

      I can see him sitting there in full armor, smoking a joint with the visor of his Bascinet closed.
      Playing zelda as the steam puffs out of the eyeslits..
      Now I want to buy armor

    • @paul1780
      @paul1780 3 года назад +3

      Imagine if that were true and there were no camera, Metatron's speaking to a wall or an open door and his GF's used to his urges to give one-sided discussions.

    • @kenricnarbrough8191
      @kenricnarbrough8191 3 года назад +1

      coincidentally i am playing Twilight princess as i watch this.

    • @vladivanov5500
      @vladivanov5500 3 года назад +2

      @@thulegezelschap5884 Must everything come back to smoking a joint?

  • @eros5420
    @eros5420 3 года назад +3013

    Thor vs Jesus might be the only Marvel film I'm looking forwards to.

  • @gabrielb5742
    @gabrielb5742 3 года назад +514

    Christmas discount in viking jewelry... that's why they didn't crusade, they didn't need, they offered them Christmas discounts.

    • @johnree6106
      @johnree6106 3 года назад +17

      Well technically it's a going a viking, meaning raiders. But people forget those people were also traders.

    • @matthewhavemercyonmeimasin1500
      @matthewhavemercyonmeimasin1500 3 года назад +1

      lol

    • @MegaKnight2012
      @MegaKnight2012 3 года назад +7

      Not too far off. There's a Great Courses lecture explores how the Viking Age of raiding ended due to trading agricultural sciences with the rest ofChristendom, nullifying the need to raid for resources. So, trading with Christians, trading during Christmas... yeah

    • @johnree6106
      @johnree6106 3 года назад +1

      @@MegaKnight2012 well they did farm well the slaves did, also some have said that they weren't all Norse people the children born to slaves which usually means the men caught females and impregnated them were not slaves, also if you where a good enough warrior even if a slave you can earn your freedom.

    • @deathsticks1776
      @deathsticks1776 3 года назад +2

      Yule discount!

  • @takforce06
    @takforce06 3 года назад +30

    Well…the Holy Land doesn’t exist in Nordic lands…so there’s that.

    • @Nick_Barone
      @Nick_Barone 3 года назад +2

      I think that’s really the main reason. This video could be a lot shorter.

  • @Vhailor_Mithras
    @Vhailor_Mithras 3 года назад +170

    There was a story I heard (I don't remember where) that tied the two religions together and also helped some Norse converts. The story had to do with Ragnarok and the Garden of Eden, that at the end of Ragnarok the only survivors of the war were hiding in the base of the Tree of Yggdrassil. The Christian side said the survivors were Adam and Eve, that the Garden of Eden was inside the tree. So in that sense, the end of the world in Norse mythology had already happened a long time ago.

    • @seamuswbiggerarmalite3379
      @seamuswbiggerarmalite3379 2 года назад +1

      then why theres still demons to pervert god creations?
      in noah era

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 Год назад +10

      ​@@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379 LEft over Jotuns

    • @crqf2010ruler
      @crqf2010ruler Год назад

      That's awesome

    • @plopdoo339
      @plopdoo339 Год назад

      ​@@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379 the raphaim are nephilim and Israelite hybrid...basically not all beings died from the flood and the humans that survived intermixed with those survivors

    • @reffa2858
      @reffa2858 Год назад +3

      A connected universe.

  • @Fastwinstondoom
    @Fastwinstondoom 3 года назад +175

    My take on why it was so "easy" to convert norse, danish and swedish kings is that a christian king enjoys far more control and authority over his population than a pagan king. Having the church supporting your line of succession etc must have been a very attractive notion.

    • @anthonyoer4778
      @anthonyoer4778 3 года назад +12

      The church was a form of mandated nobility. Later nobility would grant charters and licenses along the same authority.

    • @pattheplanter
      @pattheplanter 3 года назад +10

      Mutilated warrior god nailed to a tree, looked after the immortal honoured dead. Much of a muchness.

    • @speedmetalmassiah567
      @speedmetalmassiah567 3 года назад +30

      @@pattheplanteryeah, Christianity is pretty attractive. Simply accept that Jesus Christ is the son of god who was crucified and risen again, and bend your knee to the Holy Catholic Church, thus you shall have life everlasting.

    • @alexmalyarchuk1723
      @alexmalyarchuk1723 3 года назад +26

      @@pattheplanter nordic people had somewhat simialr believe - about Odin, who sacrifised himselve on Ygdrassil and was dead for nine days, and than - ressurected with huge portion of magic knowledge (runes in particular, if I remember right). So that concept was not alien to them at all.
      P.S. Maybe that concept came to life after contact with christians, don't know for sure.
      But anyway thats how "double-faith" works.

    • @pattheplanter
      @pattheplanter 3 года назад +2

      @@alexmalyarchuk1723 That is what I was referring to.

  • @zsoltsandor3814
    @zsoltsandor3814 3 года назад +544

    * Vikings raid the shorelines and upriver *
    People living inland: Glory to God that we live far from those parts
    Magyars: we're gonna do what's called a pro gamer move

    • @gigglesigh6022
      @gigglesigh6022 3 года назад +6

      You look like the new hipster meowth

    • @Oiusea
      @Oiusea 3 года назад +7

      72 hungarians liked this comment

    • @Pike737
      @Pike737 3 года назад +10

      Wait till the Ottomans arrive 😂

    • @TothLaszlo77
      @TothLaszlo77 3 года назад

      lmao

    • @j.p.vanbolhuis8678
      @j.p.vanbolhuis8678 3 года назад +17

      Then after about a century they did another pro-gamer move and converted :)

  • @corvuscrow5485
    @corvuscrow5485 2 года назад +17

    The monks even had a prayer, "God save us from the fury of the Northmen"😎

    • @Taiyo_Jingu
      @Taiyo_Jingu 8 месяцев назад

      Northmen: Hehe, longships go brr 🇳🇴🇩🇰🇸🇪

    • @BadVideo_Man
      @BadVideo_Man 3 месяца назад

      Yes and the Muslims came ad destroyed them

  • @eliteviktor3
    @eliteviktor3 3 года назад +503

    The Norwegian Crusade happened in 1107 by Sigurd the I of Norway. Literally 40 years after the viking age stopped.

    • @Erik-vp5bm
      @Erik-vp5bm 3 года назад +67

      It was also just a glorified viking raid.

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 3 года назад +83

      There are serious flaws in his analysis. The only reason it "didn't happen" is because the concept of Crusade didn't form yet. When it did form, the Catholics launched the Northern Crusades against the Baltic and Scandinavia region. There were also numerous Crusades during this period against rival Christians sects the Catholic Church considered heretical, as well as local Crusades against the Eastern Orthodox (both against the Byzantines and against smaller populations in the Baltics; these are pre-Fourth Crusade) as well as fellow Catholics, for political and financial reasons. Also, Jesus was born in Bethlehem not Jerusalem, he started the video off with a mistake.

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 3 года назад +12

      @@realtalk6195 wrong comment chain

    • @HVLLOWS1999
      @HVLLOWS1999 3 года назад +5

      Wow I didn't know that happened even if it was relatively small that's cool to know

    • @motordude67
      @motordude67 3 года назад +9

      Sigurd was the son of Magnus Barfot. Magnus was the son of Olav Kyrre, whose father Harald Hardråda, fell in the battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066, which is considered the end of the viking age.

  • @smidefix8147
    @smidefix8147 3 года назад +172

    Main reason we become Christinas was so we could launch IKEA.

    • @deadlykam
      @deadlykam 3 года назад +8

      An IKEA a day will keep the exit away.

    • @lindaakesson8403
      @lindaakesson8403 3 года назад +12

      IT IS WORKING BROTHERS
      WÖRKING*

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 3 года назад +1

      And because Odin ordered to lay down weapons and start building furniture.

    • @kungfuman82
      @kungfuman82 3 года назад +1

      @@arx3516 Valhallelujah!

  • @kahlilg9824
    @kahlilg9824 3 года назад +381

    Because they were too OP and the pope was waiting for them to be nerfed via a patch.

    • @Oddn7751
      @Oddn7751 3 года назад +3

      He could've taken advantage of the stab-hit they took from NoCB-ing Lindisfarne

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien 3 года назад +23

      Clearly not too OP, since the saxons beat them multiple times. They were just better at surprise attacks

    • @TheSpaceBrosShow
      @TheSpaceBrosShow 3 года назад

      True story

    • @Baldur1975
      @Baldur1975 3 года назад +3

      😂😂😂
      They have a t-34 driver hatch as a shield. Impenetrable.

    • @kahlilg9824
      @kahlilg9824 3 года назад +1

      @Eugene Flores its a joke dude

  • @usama_bin_laden
    @usama_bin_laden Год назад +8

    Remembering Rolland's(the viking that converted to christianity and became a duke of Normandy) biography, before his death, he donated some gold to monastaries, while also sacrificing some slaves for the sake of Odin. So he had believe in both religions, and maybe he was not hte only one

    • @komiks42
      @komiks42 Год назад +1

      I image him being like "yea, i'm not sure what to belive, so better please both"

    • @manfrombritain6816
      @manfrombritain6816 Год назад

      it makes sense. look at 2nd/3rd gen muslims in the west, most of them are having casual sex and drinking. they've adopted half our traditions/values without really thinking about it, but still keep to the old ones to keep their mothers happy as well

    • @HahaDamn
      @HahaDamn 2 месяца назад

      Constantine was similar, it’s much easier for Pagans to accept a new god, than a monotheist a new god

  • @halfmask3
    @halfmask3 3 года назад +258

    Norse versions of Christ were something we studied back in college, in a class on English language history. It was quite fun to see the differences between the meek and mild Jesus we think of today, and the fierce and heroic Jesus who was popular with the Norse. I recall in particular one bit where Jesus is described as eagerly offering his hands to the soldiers so that they could nail him to the cross. He knew this was part of the plan, and wasn't about to shirk away or fear what pain was to come.

    • @valleyscharping
      @valleyscharping Год назад +27

      Jesus very explicitly volunteers to be crucified in the Bible.

    • @denroybercier
      @denroybercier Год назад +9

      I fail to see how offering yourself up means you are no longer mild or meek. Jesus never came to lead a revolution, he came to be a perfect and final sacrifice for yours and mine sins. So that we could be blameless before God by his blood, we are saved. And by his stripes, we are healed.

    • @ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER
      @ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER Год назад +3

      The version popular with the Norse is the more biblically accurate version tho.

    • @winzyl9546
      @winzyl9546 Год назад +3

      ​@@denroybercierno one is saying that

    • @justsomeguywithoutaguy4154
      @justsomeguywithoutaguy4154 Год назад +3

      @@denroybercier So how does that work exactly ? The final sacrifice for commiting sins is a sin of nailing someone to cross and killing them ? Am I the only one who thinks this doesn't make sense ?

  • @mrh4900
    @mrh4900 3 года назад +264

    Would be curious to see Metatron’s reaction to ROMVLVS (Italian TV series set in ancient Italy).

    • @hexstaticloonatic4194
      @hexstaticloonatic4194 3 года назад +8

      Well then let's hope he sees this, he usually does take a peek in the comment section, so you never know

    • @bleedingmasque.6193
      @bleedingmasque.6193 3 года назад +5

      Doesn't he live in Southern Italy?

    • @bleedingmasque.6193
      @bleedingmasque.6193 3 года назад +7

      @YoStefan if the show is from Italy and he lives in Italy, he's probably seen a bit of it before if it's not a new thing. That's what.

    • @mrh4900
      @mrh4900 3 года назад +2

      @@bleedingmasque.6193 it just came out this year

    • @julianlarucci2045
      @julianlarucci2045 3 года назад

      That would be cool

  • @Zanator1
    @Zanator1 3 года назад +84

    "Christian wealth was very craved by the nords"
    lmao yeah they made that very clear XD

  • @albertobernal2537
    @albertobernal2537 Год назад +9

    There's no way Metatron is reading off a script, so this is prepared but narrated and explained flawlessly. A very good episode!

  • @gracjanlekston134
    @gracjanlekston134 3 года назад +102

    This sounds like a fantasy book that needs to be written, Vikings vs Crusaders.

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 3 года назад +9

      It's called the Northern Crusades, look it up.
      His analysis is flawed. The primary reason it "didn't happen" is because the concept of Crusade didn't form yet and/or they didn't have the know-how for this type of warfare. When it did form (1000s), the Catholics launched the Northern Crusades against the Baltic and Scandinavia region (1100s). There were also numerous Crusades during this period against rival Christians sects the Catholic Church considered heretical, as well as local Crusades against the Eastern Orthodox (both against the Byzantines and against smaller populations in the Baltics; these are pre-Fourth Crusade) as well as fellow Catholics, for political and financial reasons. These continued into the 1500s.
      Also, Jesus was born in Bethlehem not Jerusalem, he started the video off with a mistake.

    • @Bayouboy1981
      @Bayouboy1981 3 года назад +1

      It has. The Saxon Tales by Bernard Cornwell, also a netflix show called The Last Kingdom in it's fifth season.
      I am Uhtred, son of Uhtred, and his father was also called Uhtred and we are the Lord's of Bebbanburg.

    • @arminius504
      @arminius504 2 года назад +5

      @@Bayouboy1981 can’t stand those books and the Netflix show is even worse. Horrible in their historical portrayal of battles and of religion be it pagan or Christian. It’s so steeped in modern secularism/ humanism and that really bleeds into the story especially into the pagan/ Christian conflict he portrays. Constantly made me cringe.
      The Netflix show is even worse. So much wrong with it. The portrayal of the Saxon’s is a disgrace and I’m not even a Saxon. So dumb.

    • @Bayouboy1981
      @Bayouboy1981 2 года назад +3

      @@arminius504 that's why it's called historical fiction.

  • @VikingerOnYT
    @VikingerOnYT 3 года назад +264

    Love this man!

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 3 года назад +3

      There are serious flaws in his analysis. The primary reason it "didn't happen" is because the concept of Crusade didn't form yet. When it did form (1000s), the Catholics launched the Northern Crusades against the Baltic and Scandinavia region (1100s). There were also numerous Crusades during this period against rival Christians sects the Catholic Church considered heretical, as well as local Crusades against the Eastern Orthodox (both against the Byzantines and against smaller populations in the Baltics; these are pre-Fourth Crusade) as well as fellow Catholics, for political and financial reasons. These continued into the 1500s.
      Also, Jesus was born in Bethlehem not Jerusalem, he started the video off with a mistake.

  • @mitux447
    @mitux447 3 года назад +469

    There were so-called "northern crusades" launched against Slavs and Balts in the Elbe river region in modern-day Germany and in Prussia - modern-day Kaliningrad and parts of Poland. They were organized on a much smaller scale tough and usually by neighboring rulers among which were already Christian Danes.

    • @rymdalkis
      @rymdalkis 3 года назад +29

      There was also the Kalmare ledung against the pagans in Småland in southern Sweden

    • @kasatimshardnim
      @kasatimshardnim 3 года назад +44

      Teutonic order?

    • @PyrusFlameborn
      @PyrusFlameborn 3 года назад +39

      @@kasatimshardnim the Teutons indeed were the primary force in the Northern Crusade.

    • @andersbenke3596
      @andersbenke3596 3 года назад +23

      And we Swedes went crusading in Finland, for some reason. I can't remember the details right now.

    • @kmeanxneth
      @kmeanxneth 3 года назад +18

      @@andersbenke3596 the consequence of the Crusades was Finland gradually became an integral part of Sweden in late 13th

  • @benoitvedrines4109
    @benoitvedrines4109 3 года назад +12

    Another very interesting take. Thank you for everything, this channel is a gem :)

  • @jasonlauritsen5587
    @jasonlauritsen5587 3 года назад +63

    The Vikings tv series is entertaining, however it is so ridiculously inaccurate. None of it is true.

    • @aslaksockcraft
      @aslaksockcraft 3 года назад +16

      Quite a bit of random bits and bobs are true, and enough of it is on the tangential line between history and legend thjat allows writers to use a lot of creative lisence without technically directly contradicting anything but rather just "filling in the blanks".

    • @EnRandomSten
      @EnRandomSten 3 года назад +16

      Best part still have to be the mountain tempel in Uppsala.... I encourage anyone to go to uppsala and point at the nearest mountain. It's as flat as a ski resort in the netherlands

    • @plain_simple_garak
      @plain_simple_garak 3 года назад +9

      The Last Kingdom is somewhat better when it comes to historical accuracy, although any historical fiction is going to be filled with composite characters and the Forrest Gump effect, not to mention time travel where people who lived a hundred years apart meet and interact

    • @vasily3127
      @vasily3127 3 года назад +3

      Uhh... you want to watch some vikings wearing light color clothes pillaging a village that doesn't even fight back?

    • @MrChileno13
      @MrChileno13 Год назад

      That show is funny, but c'mon, even the viking midgets without proper training suddenly kills 10 professional soldiers with their bare hands 🤣

  • @perrenchan6600
    @perrenchan6600 3 года назад +180

    Alternate Title, A Crusader's Guide: How to preach to Vikings 😂

    • @Mister_Tac0
      @Mister_Tac0 3 года назад +6

      WOLOLOOO

    • @Eztli122
      @Eztli122 3 года назад +1

      @@Mister_Tac0 me: research Heresy

    • @Dorkeydaze
      @Dorkeydaze 3 года назад +6

      Viking: eating raw chicken
      Christian: tally ho neighbor have you heard of the warrior God Yahweh and our Lord and savior Jesus Christ?

    • @perrenchan6600
      @perrenchan6600 3 года назад +11

      @@Dorkeydaze crusader tryna convert viking: ...errrrrr Jesus said those who lived by the sword, die by the sword...
      Viking: now that's what I'm looking for, sign me up

    • @Dorkeydaze
      @Dorkeydaze 3 года назад +3

      @@perrenchan6600
      Christian: yes he indeed did say that. Did you know Steven the first gentile convert was stoned to death? Being Christian is hardcore and you will did a hard death and be raised in Valhalla and dine with David, Solomon, Able, Michal, and many other grand warriors!

  • @НиколайХанзо
    @НиколайХанзо 3 года назад +121

    Also it is interesting how christianity merged with scandinavian religion. You can see how old church decorated with scandinavian ornament depicting norse pantheon and stories related to them.

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien 3 года назад +18

      That's not exactly true though. The anglo saxons used to have the same beliefs or similar beliefs to the norse. Remember anglo saxons got converted to christianity by the britons. Norse had Odin, Saxons had Woden, Saxons had Thunor, etc etc.

    • @gosonegr
      @gosonegr 3 года назад +14

      Because the scandinavian religion were also relatively inspired by slavs, wich was influenced by other southern cults from the region wich today is Romania, wich was influenced by the Roman Empire, wich adopted proto christian cults. So, basically, it was closing the circle around cultures who were in contact before and forgot about it.

    • @timothyodaniell9119
      @timothyodaniell9119 3 года назад

      @@gosonegr great insight, strong point

    • @dreddykrugernew
      @dreddykrugernew 3 года назад

      @@gosonegr You have a common ancestor, the Yamnaya, however Slav tribes still maintained contact with the Steppe tribes right until Christianity took hold. It seems that Slavs in their prime would become Steppe warriors but when they got old and tired of fighting they would retire back into the forests of Eastern Europe and this went on from the spread of the Yamnaya into Europe 3300BC up until around 1200AD.

    • @gosonegr
      @gosonegr 3 года назад

      @@dreddykrugernew Didn't know about the Yamnaya, but if they took even the territory is now Spain and Portugal seems plausible they share some aspects of their religious life, lore and other cultural themes, like the afterlife in Heaven/Valhalla/Elissium and the punishment of Hell/Hades, or the duality between Good and Evil incarnated in different gods (a fallen Angel for Chistians) of some sort.

  • @theflammiferofwesternesse6122
    @theflammiferofwesternesse6122 2 года назад +4

    It is interesting to me whenever I read, see or hear of anyone changing their religion. Especially of note, in this case, where people disavowed their gods for convenience sake. If that's the case, the idea of God(s) for those people must have been seen more like a spiritual accessory, rather than an all-powerful being, demanding their devotion.

    • @PahadiSher
      @PahadiSher 2 года назад

      It's still going on even to this day. Gold completes the trinity of Sword & Book for Abrahamic faiths. 😄

    • @seamuswbiggerarmalite3379
      @seamuswbiggerarmalite3379 2 года назад

      all powerful? those weak demons?
      yeah and communism works

  • @khalidgagnon8753
    @khalidgagnon8753 3 года назад +79

    Love how he brought up the book of Revelation.
    God is a God of Love, yes....
    But he is no hippie as commonly assumed of him

    • @johnmclee3561
      @johnmclee3561 3 года назад +9

      lol yeah. Reading the old testament at night can be kinda scary. Also we were one person away from being destroyed altogether.

    • @SepticFuddy
      @SepticFuddy 3 года назад +2

      @@johnmclee3561 8 people but point taken

    • @johnmclee3561
      @johnmclee3561 3 года назад +4

      @@SepticFuddy Yeah true. Still, I got the impression is was mainly Noah he saw out of the corner of his eye.

    • @jonhurt6109
      @jonhurt6109 3 года назад +2

      AH but if you love your children and someone rapes and murders them.... Whats just then? So good point hes actually terrifying, if your living in the flesh.. I shiver when I read things he says in the old testament and Jesus in the new among others Job ect..

    • @williamverissimo9818
      @williamverissimo9818 3 года назад +10

      ​@@jonhurt6109 I personally don't have this vision of God, he's the master of armies, but he still is a God of compassion and love, but as the guy said above, he's no hippie too

  • @GarkKahn
    @GarkKahn 3 года назад +266

    Scandinavia was christianized for economical reasons mostly, and those who refused were defeated by the other scandinavians who accepted the conversion
    So why send an army to the north when you can just convert an army that's already there?

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 3 года назад +20

      Probably political reasons too. Since the church was a useful tool of the king and the kings noticed

    • @punishedbarca761
      @punishedbarca761 3 года назад +17

      @@arawn1061 the Christian Divine Right also made the pesky business of controlling the populace a lot easier

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 3 года назад +5

      They did engage in the Northern Crusades beginning in the 1100s. This time period also saw numerous Crusades against rival Christians sects the Catholic Church considered heretical, as well as local Crusades against the Eastern Orthodox (both against the Byzantines and against smaller populations in the Baltics) as well as against fellow Catholics, for political and financial reasons.

    • @keighlancoe5933
      @keighlancoe5933 3 года назад +3

      Pretty much the same with the Anglo-Saxon kings as well, which ironically led to the Vikings waging their own kind of crusade against the English for leaving their religion

    • @raggarbergman
      @raggarbergman 3 года назад +2

      Also as the kings of the north saw that a christina population was easier to control as it was pretty much seen that disovedience towards the king was disobieince towards god as the king was blessed by the church.

  • @kacperwoch4368
    @kacperwoch4368 3 года назад +24

    Metatron had been exploring Hyrule in Breath of the Wild (tv behind him) when suddenly he felt the need to explore the topic of crusades and viking age reality.

  • @stevengardner5401
    @stevengardner5401 Год назад +8

    This is a very good explanation of Guntrum to Athelstan conversion. I was always confused abt the supposed breaking of Oaths over the Arm Rings & why he converted. It is hard to think how ppl thought in the past without context, which you brilliantly provide here.

    • @UntroddenGaming
      @UntroddenGaming 29 дней назад

      It's a fucking TV show. This is a discussion about actual history.

  • @Tracer_Krieg
    @Tracer_Krieg 3 года назад +80

    To add further to Metatron's point, never forget the Nordic people launched their own crusade under King Sigurd I, and it marked the first time a European King personally set foot in the Holy Land in a Crusade.

    • @rebeccavaughn8897
      @rebeccavaughn8897 3 года назад +9

      Didn't Alexander the Great go to Jerusalem?

    • @Unlitedsoul
      @Unlitedsoul 3 года назад +15

      @@rebeccavaughn8897 Indeed. Not to mention the fact that Emperor Titus personally lead the army which besieged Jerusalem in 70 AD. Granted, he would not become Emperor until 79 AD. Vespasian, while he did not take part in the conquest of Jerusalem, did return to the Israel to complete his own campaign of the Roman-Jewish war after being crowned Emperor in 70 AD. Hadrian also visited Jerusalem in 135 AD. Not to mention the fact that every Byzantine Emperor following Constantine was coronated in Jerusalem until the Sassanids conquered it in 614.
      But, they are all "emperors" and not "kings".

    • @Unlitedsoul
      @Unlitedsoul 3 года назад +13

      This is false. Sigurd was the first king to personally take part in a crusade, but wasn't even among the first 20 European rulers to step foot in the holy land.

    • @Tracer_Krieg
      @Tracer_Krieg 3 года назад +5

      @@Unlitedsoul I apologize, that is what I meant.

    • @rebeccavaughn8897
      @rebeccavaughn8897 3 года назад +2

      @@Unlitedsoul Hmmmmm. Is it valide to count people who became rulers later or not? I'll have to think about that...
      I should probably do as you did and separate out the crusades from other wars though. They really are their own animal.
      Thanks!

  • @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081
    @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 3 года назад +134

    "Byzantine empire recruited Norsmen."
    Well, they also recruted Turkic horsearchers, and were friends with the Fatimids of Egypt who were themselves foes to the Seljuks.

    • @szarekhthesilent2047
      @szarekhthesilent2047 3 года назад +14

      And allied with the Mongols. lol.

    • @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081
      @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 3 года назад +28

      @@szarekhthesilent2047 Yes lol, even the Crusaders later on allied with the heathen Mongols to try to win against the Mamelukes.

    • @CarrotConsumer
      @CarrotConsumer 3 года назад +43

      The Byzantines would use anyone in their army. They probably would have recruited satan himself if they were able.

    • @alpharius8264
      @alpharius8264 3 года назад +16

      The roman army had allways been open to mercenaries. Ironnicly the emperors personal bodyguards were in the most cases recruited from foreign man as they were veiwed as political neutral

    • @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081
      @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 3 года назад +18

      @@alpharius8264 The Ayyubids did that with the Mameluks as well. The Ottomans' entire core professional infantry was composed of foreign slaves.. albeit converted. Noone is saying the practice was unusual, the entire point of my comment was to point out that it wasn't. Because I found it weird that the Metatron would use the fact that the Eastern Romans used Norse mercenaries as an argument for the latters not being considered as enemies to Chrisendom and a menace when the Romans did that with the Turks as well.

  • @jaggaming8685
    @jaggaming8685 3 года назад +25

    Also worth mentioning that when the vikings were at their height of raiding, like during lindesfarne or great heathen army, a crusade had never been called before. By the time of the first crusade in 1095 the viking era was pretty much over.

  • @trulshansson9738
    @trulshansson9738 2 года назад +6

    I really appreciate that the word Viking is used to describe an act here, "going on viking". That is the first time I've heard it used that way in a non-Scandinavian language.

  • @SomasAcademy
    @SomasAcademy 3 года назад +13

    The show The Last Kingdom has an interesting representation of the conversion of Guthrum to Christianity. For anyone who hasn't seen it, they suggest throughout the first season that Guthrum is curious about Christianity, and at the end when the battle turns in Alfred's favor, Guthrum says "Their God is with them", similarly to how Metatron says he may have perceived things.

  • @TheOldBlackShuckyDog
    @TheOldBlackShuckyDog 3 года назад +27

    Baltic crusades is as close as we get to that.
    Was no real reason to crusade before the call for help from Alexios. The natural Christianisation of many of the Vikings didn't actually take all that long.

    • @cariopuppetmaster
      @cariopuppetmaster 3 года назад +1

      No it look quite awhile to christanize the Norse.

    • @Saeronor
      @Saeronor 3 года назад +3

      That and the amount of uh.... pious donations you could mercifully extract from Scandinavian mountains and forests was not exactly promising to anyone who would try to budget a major military undertaking on the scale of mainstream crusades.

    • @cariopuppetmaster
      @cariopuppetmaster 3 года назад +1

      @@Saeronor but that didn't stop the Baltic or Wendish crusade near the same area

    • @TheBarser
      @TheBarser 3 года назад +1

      Well the Danes where part of the Baltic crusades after they converted.

    • @Saeronor
      @Saeronor 3 года назад

      @@cariopuppetmaster Wendish? Nowhere near the scale or effort comparable to "thousands of kilometers to reach Palestine, fighting actual powers on the way". These were often local, march lords running things, with Germany proper stepping in when stuff got really hairy, like in late X. And the area was pretty much behind the corner, only poor infrastructure prolonging the process.
      Baltic? Initially a grueling march into the wild, but even then it was more than 100 years *after* crusades got into full swing. Hell, Teutonic Order pushing into Prussia was a child of that earlier period. The Prussia Project was basically its life extension after Holy Land got Ackbared. So, really, not the *first* choice for participants, not even the sloppy seconds (Hungary episode for Teutons).
      And then, after breaking some uprisings and finally consolidating in Prussia, it became even more of a local effort, Orders running the show on day-to-day basis, with western knights purchasing Season Passes when it suited them.

  • @queirol2126
    @queirol2126 3 года назад +28

    They would've needed naval supremacy. Against the vikings in the 900s? No

    • @CarrotConsumer
      @CarrotConsumer 3 года назад +7

      Wessex achieved several naval victories against Viking Fleets. With more resources I'm sure it wouldn't have been an issue.

    • @alpharius8264
      @alpharius8264 3 года назад +1

      Not necesserly as most vikikngs were from Denmark

    • @queirol2126
      @queirol2126 3 года назад +1

      @@alpharius8264 the capital is in an island

    • @caspernilsson706
      @caspernilsson706 3 года назад +1

      @@alpharius8264 most vikings were not danes, vikings first started in sweden to the east. Danes were later more succesfull with the british isles, but in the begining vikings came from sweden. It was there the word originated from.

    • @lindaakesson8403
      @lindaakesson8403 3 года назад +1

      @@alpharius8264 Norwegians, Danes and Swedes all raided about as often and with about the same amount of Manpower.
      So... You are wrong.

  • @mattkaiser8984
    @mattkaiser8984 3 года назад +1

    So… they definitely did.
    The Baltic Crusades.
    Also, the Norwegian King Bluetooth recognized this possibility and began conversions to Christianity. The “Vikings” were hip to not getting wiped out.

  • @Raleyg
    @Raleyg 3 года назад +15

    The part about the Norse seeing Jesus as a warrior god is absolutely true. A lot of the early sagas refer to Jesus “the King of Jordan” a great ruler who leads his followers to victory over death itself

    • @RoyalKnightVIII
      @RoyalKnightVIII 3 года назад +3

      Same with the English, old English epics like Heliand call Jesus' disciples his thanes and describe Jesus as going into battle against death and not against the Romans

    • @Thiago_Alves_Souza
      @Thiago_Alves_Souza 2 года назад +2

      Which makes sense since the Bible says Jesus raided hell and took the kingdom from Satan.

  • @AtelierGod
    @AtelierGod 3 года назад +46

    Viking jewelry? The page that mistakes Sköll for Skadi? They mistake the wolf that’ll eat either the moon or the sun with the goddesss of skiing!

    • @markbyrd7710
      @markbyrd7710 3 года назад +1

      Sounds about the same to me.

    • @lieneux200
      @lieneux200 3 года назад +22

      I don't understand all this craze for vikings nowadays, especially form people that have any or little to do with them, i'm from the south of Sweden and i love the pagan ways but for f sake, i bet they don't know shit about them or their hertige, just look at the way they promote themselves, looks like hollywood to me.

    • @stormveil
      @stormveil 3 года назад +2

      @@lieneux200 yes basically it's just fantasy.

    • @BarokaiRein
      @BarokaiRein 3 года назад +4

      Yeah viking jewerly is one of many trendy viking themed stores that never knows what the fuck they're talking about and spread misinformation about the mythology.

    • @hjalmarrsviakappa9666
      @hjalmarrsviakappa9666 3 года назад +5

      @@lieneux200 Det är väl inte annorlunda från hur jag själv gillar romersk historia, såväl som vår egna nordiska? Trots att jag knappast lär ha några italienska anfäder.
      Däremot håller jag helt med om att att dem inte såg särskilt historiska ut, på samma sätt som vikingarna vi ser på film, helt och hållet ser ut som smutsiga fantasy-barbarer.

  • @frawolfhd1490
    @frawolfhd1490 3 года назад +122

    Zelda Breath of the Wild in the background be like: -_-

    • @SororitasSimp
      @SororitasSimp 3 года назад +3

      Could've been his gf or him playing halfway through and waiting for a blood moon or something, either way, it's one way to get someone's attention XD

    • @JoseManuel-is4yc
      @JoseManuel-is4yc 3 года назад

      It's one of my favourite games, and the fact that Metatron play it makes it even better

    • @frawolfhd1490
      @frawolfhd1490 3 года назад

      @@JoseManuel-is4yc same

  • @mwol5473
    @mwol5473 Год назад +1

    It did... Charlemagne attacked the Germans and genocided Pagans which triggered a response from the Germanic Scandinavians AKA the Viking Age... The Viking Age began when Rome tried to conquer Germania and continued to until Christain Rome was founded and Christian Rome and the Holy Roman Empire tried to which triggered the Scandinavian Vikings to attack this New Christian Rome... The "Viking Age" was actually the continuation of the long struggle of the Germanic Peoples against the Romans which went on for a thousand years from the time of Jesus through 1066 AD

  • @kamilszadkowski8864
    @kamilszadkowski8864 3 года назад +107

    In a sense they actually did. The Wendish Crusade was targeted against Pagan Polabian Slavs who basically were filing the role of Vikings at the time by sea raiding and controlling a large part of the Baltic Trade. They actually often raided Scandinavia and parts of Northern Germany.

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 3 года назад +9

      No they did not. When we say vikings we refer to the early medieval scandinavian peoples (denmark, sweden and norway). Slavs do not fall into that category.

    • @Spr1ggan87
      @Spr1ggan87 3 года назад +25

      @@hazzmati Viking was a profession, not an ethnicity. They refer to Scottish raiders as Vikings in the Icelandic Sagas.

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 3 года назад +2

      @@Spr1ggan87 but we are not looking at their perspective but our modern perspective. I don't need to prove that, it's common knowledge

    • @kamilszadkowski8864
      @kamilszadkowski8864 3 года назад +16

      @@hazzmati It's a common misconception then. Especially since a lot of Slavs lived on Scandinavian territories like the southern Danish islands which for a time were predominantly Slavic. Moreover, both Norse and Slavic warriors were organizing joint raids.
      A rigid division of cultures inhabiting the Baltic Sea basin is an artificial invention of XIX and XX century nationalism. In reality, cultures and tribes in the area lived in a confusing melting pot.
      Among the best pieces of evidence for that are Old Slavic words like vitędzь which was a Slavic equivalent of Viking.
      As +Default Profile Picture pointed out Sagas do not discriminate in this regard as they even mention Slavic berserkers. Source: Saga of Magnus the Blind

    • @TotalRookie_LV
      @TotalRookie_LV 3 года назад +2

      I live on a land conquered by Christians during Northern Crusades, so...
      And yet the name (Livonian "Imanta" or "Imants" in it's modern Latvian form) of the guy, who scored a headshot with his spear against the first bishop if Riga is still one of the most popular boys names. How Christian is that?! XD
      And yes, there was no such strict division between ethnicities and sometimes even not between faiths, in the battle if Tannenberg Pagan Lithuanians, Orthodox Slavs and Tatar cavalry were fighting alongside Catholic Poles against Catholic knights of Teutonic order. If Pagans happened to be vassals of a Christian king, well, that's still a fighting force, same with mercenaries.

  • @paradisecityX0
    @paradisecityX0 3 года назад +20

    "He who lives by the sword dies by the sword" - Jesus

    • @afb8425
      @afb8425 3 года назад +9

      "that's a nice head you have on your shoulders" -Sea Raider

    • @paradisecityX0
      @paradisecityX0 3 года назад +1

      @@afb8425 Ha

    • @Daniel-xh6tv
      @Daniel-xh6tv 3 года назад +2

      The Vikings wanted exactly that, so yeah, Jesus seems the best god for them haha

    • @paradisecityX0
      @paradisecityX0 3 года назад +2

      @@Daniel-xh6tv Best God* for them.
      The superstition of dying with a sword in your hand was so you can enter Valhallah -- the afterlife of feasting, boasting, and fighting forever. That notion would be obsolete with the Christianization of Scandinavia and Iceland

    • @stc3145
      @stc3145 3 года назад +2

      Those who dont live by the swords dies by it anyway

  • @TodayLifeIsGoood
    @TodayLifeIsGoood 3 года назад +9

    So the missionaries taught them the METAL parts first? Makes sense to me^^

  • @lilitheden748
    @lilitheden748 2 года назад +21

    You are so passionate about history and facts. My history teacher was also driven about teaching history how it should be taught. She made history come alive. It became my favourite course. She was a wonderful teacher whom I am still grateful for the enormous efforts she did to teach us.

  • @tchallabangoura7606
    @tchallabangoura7606 3 года назад +22

    Excellent break down. I’m playing the new AC Valhalla(enjoying it too)
    one of the interesting things about the Norse timeline, is that my ancestors in West Africa started a musical tradition with the Djembe (goblet shaped hand drum) right around the year1,000 C.E.
    I’m an author and history buff, and I enjoyed this video. Peace to you Metatron

    • @RealRagnar816
      @RealRagnar816 2 года назад +5

      Ac Valhalla is terrible and total fantasy game 😂

    • @Big-BossX
      @Big-BossX 2 года назад +2

      @@RealRagnar816 I thought so too but was blown away when I started it recently

    • @HorpheuNurbem
      @HorpheuNurbem 2 года назад +2

      @@RealRagnar816 its a game after all... but of course if you like historical facts then the game is not good hahaha I don't care if the game is historically correct, I just enjoy playing it. If the subject is history, I prefer to read.

    • @Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial
      @Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial 2 года назад

      @@RealRagnar816 Based. That game was hot garbage.

  • @PalleRasmussen
    @PalleRasmussen 3 года назад +21

    The Franks launched a major campaign into Jutland in 814 (maybe 816, I cannot recall), the Danes jumped on their ships and withdrew to either Fyn or Vendsyssel, and eventually the Franks had to give up and withdraw. Likely their supply lines were raided- raiding being what Vikings did best.

  • @bongo_baggins
    @bongo_baggins 3 года назад +10

    I love how he has BOTW just chillin in the background haha

  • @TheFirstAmendment
    @TheFirstAmendment Год назад +1

    The Roman Catholic Church, even up to the schism of 1054 that resulted in the establishment of Greek Orthodoxy, cannot be deemed as the authentic embodiment of the "Christian" church. Similarly, the Baptist denomination, along with any other religious sect that deviates from or adds to the teachings of the Bible, fails to meet the criteria of being truly representative of Christianity. In terms of steadfast adherence to apostolic doctrine, the UPCI (United Pentecostal Church International) and the Assemblies of God movement stand out as notable denominations. The pivotal moment marking the birth of the church, which endures to this day, is encapsulated in Acts 2:38. As stipulated in the Bible, salvation hinges upon the possession of the Holy Ghost, rendering it imperative for anyone desiring true salvation. This requirement holds true regardless of one's ecclesiastical rank, be it a "pastor" or priests from any religious background or standing.

  • @six2make4
    @six2make4 3 года назад +7

    Here in Denmark we are taught a bit about how Christianity came about and it's a lot of what you touched upon in this video. They kinda had to sell the idea of Jesus Christ to the both the normal people but also the vikings so one famous example is changing the way he is depicted in artwork. Instead of the classic and iconic version of Jesus suffering on the cross he was now staring directly ahead, back straight and a big beard, similar to depictions of Odin when he was impaled. There is also evidence that people would wear both a cross and Thor's hammer, in fact "quick molds" have been found so you could quickly make a pair of silver or iron or something like that. It seems though they prefered to be baptised during old age a lot of times from what little records we have, suggesting it was more of a classic "well, we can't really be sure so we best make sure we don't piss either off..." kinda deal for a lot.

    • @kmaher1424
      @kmaher1424 3 года назад

      Baptism washed away your sins. Before the Sacrament of Confession was invented, save Baptism until most of your sinning days are behind you.

  • @phredphlintstone6455
    @phredphlintstone6455 3 года назад +37

    "There were many advantages to converting to christianity...."
    Yeah, free robes

    • @sarahgray430
      @sarahgray430 3 года назад +11

      Also the chance to marry hot French girls and gain better farm land than they had in Scandinavia without bloodshed.

    • @carlh9120
      @carlh9120 3 года назад +3

      @@sarahgray430 But it did lead us to regress several centuries from a cultural and social standpoint.

    • @RaterProTrickster
      @RaterProTrickster 3 года назад +2

      @@carlh9120 christianity however was a big voice for the people preventing many kings from becoming even more ruthless to their citizens.

    • @doesnotexist305
      @doesnotexist305 3 года назад +3

      Or just become more civilized as a society. The Normans converted to Christianity and within a few generations were a Christian powerhouse militarily, culturally, and economically.

    • @destinytroll1374
      @destinytroll1374 3 года назад

      We also have sick hats and cool sticks to walk with, but you've gotta level up to Bishop

  • @zubei
    @zubei 3 года назад +10

    Nice video. I especially liked that you mentioned the militaristic aspects one can find in Christian holy texts, as being probably used to woo the Norse into not thinking of Christianity as the religion of a weak God.

  • @TheOldBlackShuckyDog
    @TheOldBlackShuckyDog Год назад +1

    That’s like asking why the Ottomans didn’t just use tanks at the siege of Constantinople.
    Because the social and theological framework was not yet in place in the 9-10 centuries, no papal reforms, no ideals of chivalry, pilgrimage is there tbf but in all just not doable, an armed pilgrimage was not conceived of until that point in 1095.

  • @TheExtremeIRON
    @TheExtremeIRON 3 года назад +14

    On the topic of northern crusades, it would be great to see some videos on the Baltic Crusades

  • @fatalinstinct4334
    @fatalinstinct4334 3 года назад +23

    Vikings are one of my favorite things to learn about

    • @fatalinstinct4334
      @fatalinstinct4334 3 года назад +4

      @Kroi Albanoi Vikings would stomp prussians

    • @mdjey2
      @mdjey2 3 года назад +2

      I don't think they were much different from Baltic pagans. Anyway it still is an interesting topic and I love Wardruna music, I stumble accidentally on it.

    • @fiddlesticks7245
      @fiddlesticks7245 3 года назад

      @Kroi Albanoi They slaughtered balts and only had any problems when they had pomeranian aid or when they had no support from Europeans during the winter months, and they STILL won.

  • @gregoryrousseau5155
    @gregoryrousseau5155 3 года назад +11

    Okay, but actually the real question is:
    Why didn't the church launch a crusade on HYRULE?

    • @jerry250ify
      @jerry250ify 3 года назад +2

      Because its already christian my guy.
      Ever seen the original artwork for the first zelda games?

    • @Ch-ew9tm
      @Ch-ew9tm 3 года назад +2

      @@jerry250ify they are pagan they have multiple gods

    • @jerry250ify
      @jerry250ify 3 года назад +1

      @@Ch-ew9tm nop. In orignal Japanese "The book of Magic" is even directly named as "The Bible"
      zelda-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Christianity

    • @dazerrazer3018
      @dazerrazer3018 3 года назад

      @@Ch-ew9tm seethe harder, zelda was christian lmao

  • @PickleRick65
    @PickleRick65 Год назад +1

    Matthew 10:34-36
    34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.

  • @themcstreetz316
    @themcstreetz316 3 года назад +16

    Been watching the Last Kingdom. This puts alot of it into historical perspective. Thanks!

    • @jonnardy1520
      @jonnardy1520 2 года назад +3

      i know its sounds cringe but man, take a look in the books! They are very much enjoyable and easy to reand and understand!

    • @themcstreetz316
      @themcstreetz316 2 года назад +2

      Not cringe at all, didn't know there were books! Thanks I might look into that

    • @1johnnygunn
      @1johnnygunn 2 года назад

      That shows more dramatization than an accurate Recounting of history

  • @vraska8799
    @vraska8799 3 года назад +63

    Retainer: "should we organize a crusade on the norse heathens?"
    King: "do they have oil?"

    • @andyreginald6272
      @andyreginald6272 3 года назад +2

      👌

    • @Russia-bullies
      @Russia-bullies 3 года назад +4

      That is historically inaccurate & unrealistic,as oil then would not have been worth such a crusade.

    • @SofaKingShit
      @SofaKingShit 3 года назад +5

      Retainer:"'Thzy haven't invented oil yet and instead spend their days trying to develop techniques of building ships with ridiculous little hexagonal tools and difficult to understand diagrams sire" .

    • @useodyseeorbitchute9450
      @useodyseeorbitchute9450 3 года назад +1

      A true metagamer, would not invade them, convert them instead and then use for crusades in the ME. Hmm...

    • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
      @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 3 года назад +1

      As if the modern world doesn't run on oil.

  • @kamilszadkowski8864
    @kamilszadkowski8864 3 года назад +21

    4:15 "Jersusalem (...) of course because it was a birthplace of Jesus Christ" --- Jesus was born in Bethlehem. I'm sure it was just an accidental brain fart on your part. Happens to all of us.

    • @austingates3623
      @austingates3623 3 года назад +5

      He may of been referring to Israel, and not the city

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  3 года назад +24

      Not a mistake, I mean the Jerusalem area. Everyone knows the home Town was Bethlehem.

    • @user-yr5nv2gv7m
      @user-yr5nv2gv7m 3 года назад

      @@metatronyt en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades ruclips.net/video/UF0OmRYfQyc/видео.html 1:08 oh u mean just like the burning of alexandria or library of peisistratos? where they didnt even touch herodotos but obliterated all the karnak temple (ptah, god of artificers and invetions=patents?) pbs.twimg.com/media/EDPkj8iXsAAfCV7.jpg ... saxon england adversely wanted to preserve roman ideals and knowledge, not everyone was like the arian visigoths famous for inquisiting the last vestiges of the Eleusian mystery cult
      only after 1000 was the tribal hodgepodge of europe processed into a huge continental feudalist corporate goo that had an overproduction of gentry not-first borns that wanted land and power

    • @daddyleon
      @daddyleon 3 года назад +1

      *+Kamil Szadkowski* Well...the legend tells us that at least. Whether there was such a full-on historical Jesus (with miracles and all) is quite another matter.

    • @paradisecityX0
      @paradisecityX0 3 года назад +5

      @@daddyleon Yeshua's existence isn't even up for debate

  • @martinschmidt8616
    @martinschmidt8616 Год назад +1

    What many forget ,in my opinion, is, that the strongest landforce on the european continent, the frankish kingdom under Charlemagne started his saxon wars in 772. These wars were fought very brutal and the christian mission, that was done simultaniously, was mainly conducted by english monks and scholars... In 789 the franks reached and crossed the Elbe river into Holstein for the first time. And the saxon leader Widukind was in exile for a time in Denmark. So I think there is no coincidence that the 'Vikings' targetted the monastarys first... especially the most famous scholastic 'training center' the monastary of lindisfarne

  • @husseinalsharaa202
    @husseinalsharaa202 3 года назад +7

    Metatron can you do a video on islamic armies your videos are really detailed and accurate and I hope you do a video about islamic armies.
    I don't want to start a war in the reply section.

    • @Cyricist001
      @Cyricist001 3 года назад +1

      Not start a war?! Odin is not amused.

    • @anthonyoer4778
      @anthonyoer4778 3 года назад +4

      This is RUclips...
      You have chosen death by comments!

    • @18754KRS
      @18754KRS 3 года назад

      you think he know about middle east cause it seem to me after watching him for years he only know details about europe an asia

    • @husseinalsharaa202
      @husseinalsharaa202 3 года назад +2

      @@18754KRS I only discovered him 2 days ago.

    • @18754KRS
      @18754KRS 3 года назад

      @@husseinalsharaa202 welcome aboard

  • @KittenCritters
    @KittenCritters 3 года назад +81

    ”Viking Raiders” - yes I too like saying words twice

    • @thetruthcaboose2293
      @thetruthcaboose2293 3 года назад +7

      Well, he could just be trying to specify the vikingr’s that raided, because some people that went Viking were just traders and sea-fairing expedition-goers

    • @EnRandomSten
      @EnRandomSten 3 года назад +14

      As a Swede this is one of those nitpicks I dont understand. We say vikings raiders as well, hell the whole age is refered to as the viking age (Vikingatiden) here and we also refere to the people as Vikings.

    • @MrSurvivalgecoLP
      @MrSurvivalgecoLP 3 года назад +6

      Sahara desert

    • @charles2703
      @charles2703 3 года назад +6

      It isn’t as redundant as you might think, some Vikings might be huscarls or maybe even paladins.

    • @yellowdevil9650
      @yellowdevil9650 3 года назад +1

      ok kitten but it ain't common knowledge that viking means raiders and words evolve. viking today is known as a people instead of a profession. you say viking, people apply the term 'viking' to all those Scandinavians, even the non-raider ones. so, it doesn't hurt to assume that everyone who is watching isn't some lore buff. maybe, just maybe, they're interested in watching this video.

  • @patavinity1262
    @patavinity1262 3 года назад +65

    Simple: when the vikings were pagan, crusades hadn't been invented yet.

    • @ueks69
      @ueks69 3 года назад +5

      Well not true. Charlemagne crusaded against the sazons and sscked one of the largest pagan Holy site Irminsul. Ole could argue, that the Danish Kings build Danevirke across the Southern Kurland peninsula to keep the Franks out, and finally King Harald Bluetooth had a runestone erected, where he states he Christened the danes, just to keep the crusading armies of the holy Roman Empire out of Denmark.

    • @adamantdane3896
      @adamantdane3896 3 года назад

      Exactly plus Europe wasnt a major power at that point it was still in the dark ages after the fall of Rome. Only until around the 12th century or so was Europe strong enough to invent Crusades. Also its easier to march South than North on a geographical logisticsl stand point.

    • @patavinity1262
      @patavinity1262 3 года назад +5

      @@ueks69 No. The first crusade was in 1096, well after Charlemagne.

    • @daddyleon
      @daddyleon 3 года назад +1

      Surely when they were no longer vikings, they were also no longer pagan?

    • @patavinity1262
      @patavinity1262 3 года назад +4

      @@daddyleon Well it really depends on how you define the term 'viking'. At any rate, having been converted migrating Scandinavians continued to do much the same as they had beforehand.

  • @antonius3745
    @antonius3745 Год назад +1

    First, the crusades were never organized by the church on the first place.
    Secondly, all crusades were like the so-called war on terror of the USA, made out of geopolitical and economic reasons by the kings of the Middle-ages and financed by nobility. Best example for this is the first crusade that was made to the Katharian sect in South-France who were very wealthy and intervened with the trait in a main part of southern France.
    There are always other reason than those which are presented publicly.
    The same is true for all wars and conflicts as we see already again in the Ukraine war. Only geopolitical interests start them or keep them going.

  • @LukeVilent
    @LukeVilent 3 года назад +5

    8:20 Just a small comment on putting on a symbol of Thor.
    1. The Mjolnir as a necklace appears in the North simultaneously with the Cross.
    2. Up till now, it was found only in female burials, so for a Viking a dude wearing a Mjolnir would probably look like much like Conchita Wurst.

  • @skaruts
    @skaruts 3 года назад +11

    Here's a question I always wanted to ask a history teacher: have you ever played _Lords Of The Realm 2?_

  • @willek1335
    @willek1335 3 года назад +47

    Interesting topic. I once a read a PhD thesis based on the relationship between high medieval Norsemen and the pagan Sami population.
    It basically boiled down to three things: Bishops who demanded crusade against the heathes, but it fell on deaf ears. Secondly. Lords who obviously made empty promises, jet were, as you pointed out, content with taxation of the status quo. Lastly, the common people who peacefully interacted without any concerns.
    If there's no dragon to slay, then there's no st. George. Only George.

  • @wondergolderneyes
    @wondergolderneyes Год назад +1

    Can I just jump in before watching and have a guess that it's because the Vikings never controlled Jerusalem?

  • @Citypunk
    @Citypunk 3 года назад +4

    Sorry, there was a crusade against vikings. The last viking society in Europe was in Estonia, vikings from Saaremaa and Revala controlled the eastern trade routes and looted in Denmark and Sweden on regular basis. It took about twenty years and gallons of blood to beat them. See northen crusades for more and if you wanna do a video about it connect with me, thank you!

  • @carlosmarte428
    @carlosmarte428 3 года назад +8

    Great topic! I saw the title and thought “Yes...wow, why hasn’t this question ever crossed my mind?”

  • @Universal-th1jc
    @Universal-th1jc 3 года назад +12

    love how he put the Warband Viking

    • @michael723
      @michael723 3 года назад

      Ayyyy finally found a mount and blade fan

    • @NorthwindFusilier
      @NorthwindFusilier 3 года назад

      That's a nice head you have on your shoulders...

  • @adelbertbellgika9890
    @adelbertbellgika9890 2 года назад +1

    A video like this is frankly stupid becouse the crusades started in 1095~ and the viking age started in 793 and ended in 1066 with the death of harald hårdrade.

  • @Inquisitor_Askeladd
    @Inquisitor_Askeladd 3 года назад +8

    Christianity gave the viking kings legitimacy to increase their own power

  • @cafiristanemperor
    @cafiristanemperor 3 года назад +7

    Awesome comments, as usual! Thank you so much for your work!
    As I was watching your video, I couldn't help myself and compared it to the history of Saint Patrick in Ireland as well...
    I mean, one could never forget the power of the middle and poor classes as well. Saint Patrick brought a much more compassionate creed - Christianity - that, at least compared to the pagan rituals, didn't make ugly sacrifices like human sacrifices, regarded everyone as equal under God, which made huge contributions to the abollition of slavery in the continent.
    In the history of the Catholic Church, there are many, many documents of real conversions, like you said of Guthrum/Aethelstan.
    The Normands were not stupid. I am pretty sure many kings did become Christians either by true sentiment of conversion or by the feeling that, if they didn't, another usurper would.
    Like the alleged phrase of King Dom João VI of Portugal to his son, Dom Pedro I, here in Brazil:
    "Claim your crown (the empire of Brazil) before an adventurer do it!"
    Cheers from Brazil!
    André

  • @____________838
    @____________838 3 года назад +7

    Christians to the newly christianized Norse: “You played yourselves.”

  • @romgl4513
    @romgl4513 Год назад +1

    Next, please do "Why is the US most likely promote democracy by military action where oil deposits are found".

  • @runerebel8441
    @runerebel8441 3 года назад +4

    Nice video as always. But you say birthplace of Jusus is Jerusalem. If I remember right its Betlehem, right? ;)

    • @austingates3623
      @austingates3623 3 года назад

      He could possibly be referring to Israel, or just the general area where Jesus was born, not the city. Could’ve just been mistake though and he actually thought Jesus was born in the city of Jerusalem

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  3 года назад +2

      Of course, I meant the Jerusalem area.

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  3 года назад

      Also I did Say "the Middle East" before I said Jerusalem when I said It was the birthday of Christ so There Is that, yes I meant the area :)

  • @damnairaefidei4816
    @damnairaefidei4816 3 года назад +4

    Even us orthodoxes believe that Mary helps in battles for the just.

  • @johan13135
    @johan13135 3 года назад +5

    To add further details, many chieftains and petty kings also converted to Christianity, not because they believed a thing of it, but because it gave them a whole lot more centralised power than ever before. And this continued especially in Sweden well into the beginning of Swedish middle age.
    And another interesting fact is that the Swedes continued raiding after they became Christians too. The last recorded raid was around 1100, just a few years before the first bishop was chosen (which is the traditional end of Swedish Viking age)

  • @brianfeldz1797
    @brianfeldz1797 2 года назад +1

    It might have been easier if they had the Baltic and Northern Slavic regions under the Christian fold at that time, who were the only ones who got hit by the Vikings probably as bad as the Brits. And as we know, the Slavs would ultimately ask the Norse to rule over their region, creating what eventually would become Russian, Ukraine and Belarusian identities, through the Viking led Rus. And of course the Balts would eventually face their own crusade from the Teutons. So even though the Vikings regularly raided those eastern territories, it would be the Christians more than the Norse that the Balts and Slavs would initially have to fear, integrating with the Norse to various extents. I don’t think there would be Baltic or Russian identity today were it not for the Norse and their eastern trading and raiding.

  • @herpyderpy2869
    @herpyderpy2869 3 года назад +11

    Athelstan: Jesus is a powerful warrior god!
    Jesus who literally said "love your enemy": 👁️👄👁️

    • @theverysupercman97
      @theverysupercman97 3 года назад +1

      read revelations

    • @herpyderpy2869
      @herpyderpy2869 3 года назад +2

      @@theverysupercman97 Yea I know the part where the final battle with Satan and Heaven and all that. But I trust you if you read the New Testament without Revelations to the vikings they'll be confused.

    • @blarfroer8066
      @blarfroer8066 3 года назад +2

      Read up on what his father did. Maccabee 1&2, for example

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 3 года назад +2

      "love your enemy"
      Love him to bits.

    • @mr.coffeeguy2853
      @mr.coffeeguy2853 3 года назад

      Correction: Love your neighbor, meaning EVERYBODY. He, however, would fight and destroy in the end (even to the point of where the blood would fill a valley up to the brim of the horse). He said that because humans had no right to judge, as they were guilty themselves.

  • @dylc5604
    @dylc5604 3 года назад +6

    Yes some Irish traded with the Vikings, allied with them, even hired them to fight other Irish as Mercenaries. It was at the battle of Clontarf (1014) where King Brian Boru defeated the Vikings and unified Ireland for only a brief moment. He was killed at the battle and Ireland returned to being divided, which was a perfect opportunity for the Normans in the following century.

  • @spiffygonzales5899
    @spiffygonzales5899 3 года назад +9

    Had an argument a few weeks ago with a girl about exactly this. Gonna send her this video.

    • @someonesilence3731
      @someonesilence3731 3 года назад +1

      You had an argument with a girl about a crusade on vikings??

    • @stanisawptak2509
      @stanisawptak2509 3 года назад

      odd

    • @spiffygonzales5899
      @spiffygonzales5899 3 года назад +2

      @@someonesilence3731
      Well... technically it was about "white people" always invading "brown people"
      Not trying to get into politics, but you get the idea.

    • @someonesilence3731
      @someonesilence3731 3 года назад +2

      @@spiffygonzales5899 Right... that makes more sense at least.

  • @sathdk79
    @sathdk79 Год назад +2

    There sort of was a crusade against a branch of vikings in the Baltic. The Prussians and the Grand Dutchy of Lithuania were converted largely through military actions

    • @hildahilpert5018
      @hildahilpert5018 Год назад

      Yes that is true.My grandmother,s first cousin Reinhold von Lilienschild was reported to the Gestapo as being Jewish.Tjey found he had no Jewish blood.His family had been in the Holy Land and later took part in the Baltic Crusades.They went back in the records of the City of Riga to the 12th, 13th century.Some members belong to the Livonian Knights of the Sword.Had to flee for his life to America because even thougj cleared of the Jewish charge, the Gedtapo was going to arrest him anyeays.

  • @s.v.848
    @s.v.848 3 года назад +7

    You are as objective as a history buff could and should be. I like you, keep it up.

  • @bandera_father
    @bandera_father 3 года назад +14

    Awesome video! But also Denmark should be pronounced as "Den-mark", and in Danish as "Dan-mark".

  • @GnuReligion
    @GnuReligion Год назад +1

    I know why YT demonetized you now. Yeah, they are evil, but the algos pick up on the pro-Norse tone of your content, and interpreted it as neo-Yatzee.

  • @thepolarbear8449
    @thepolarbear8449 3 года назад +18

    The Crusades started in 1096 and the Viking age was over in 1066.

    • @Gravelgratious
      @Gravelgratious 3 года назад +7

      William the Conqueror was given holy authority by the Pope to claim his throne, and even gave him a banner to do itin the name of Christendom. Technically his invasion of England was a crusade, though not in name.

    • @TheOldBlackShuckyDog
      @TheOldBlackShuckyDog 3 года назад +3

      Tbf the ending of the Viking age is pretty arbitrary, but yeah more or less.

    • @RexusprimeIX
      @RexusprimeIX 3 года назад +2

      So? The video answers why they didn't launch the first crusade earlier to stop the Norsemen.

    • @kamilszadkowski8864
      @kamilszadkowski8864 3 года назад +1

      +
      Nebojša Mickov Nah, 1066 was the end of large-scale raids to Western Europe but large raids were still a thing on the Baltic Sea even in the first half of the XII century.

    • @furkanonal8
      @furkanonal8 3 года назад +1

      Crusades could have been started earlier which is the topic of this video. Comment after watching the video