These experts are by far the greatest thinkers of our time.. Watching this interview, takes me back to the campus of Howard University. I can’t pull away. What a phenomenal experience.
Thank you Isabel Wilkerson for bringing the inhuman Indian Caste system into a strong focus among other important achievements of this book. For all its technological advances, Indian higher castes are proudly upholding this system even specifying desirable caste for a potential bride or groom in the matrimonial classified section of their newspapers. This is almost a neutral example compared to the treatment of the "Untouchable" caste- by the sheer misfortune of birth -who are marked for only cleaning jobs that no one will touch - for their children's entire life also.
This discussion really digs deep into the meaning of caste, race, and class. This is an extremely important discussion. I wish the world could attend and hear it, and join in and debate, and really pull back the curtains on what’s mostly misunderstood and put into boxes nice little neat boxes that justify the isms that brings out of this caste system.
Yup, what he said, scabs are wearing off, and we never needed to pull them off, they were coming off, we needed to explain and witness our endurance of pain and the will to thrive.... we are living in a unique era of disclosure and discovery of details about black life...by authors like Isabel Wilkerson
I wonder if Dr. Frances Cress Welsing's seminal research resulting in her published writings The Cress Theory of Color-Confrontation and Racism and "The Isis Papers" had any influence on Isabel Wilkerson's
I've just seen the movie "Origin"...If the black minds of yesterday helped to build these giants of freedom, literature, and thinking then the future is in good hands.....You are young, gifted, and Black. We must begin to tell our young, There's a world waiting for you, Yours is the quest that's just begun - James Weldon Johnson
Yes she is one of the best I heard so far because she makes it simple.but you on the other hand is just saying a bunch of big words that not everyone is going to understand what you are saying.and you maybe right and you're right.but I have to pull out a dictionary just to understand you and stop you every three or four minutes just to get to understand what you're saying average people do not understand what you saying I admire you for your knowledge but you can get a lot more across to the people in and just simple words.
I agree! Some conversations are so serious and important that one must lay aside the theatrics and keep it simple. This caste system continues to kill us!🙏
He frequently uses the “big” words inappropriately. He isn’t as smart as he thinks he is. His speech is largely “word salad” and when dissected it doesn’t make much sense to the topics being discussed.
Love me some Isabel her books are AMAZZING!! Please get her book people white and black as it is soo important for the history of the country- I’m fan boying out myself ❤😊
There is no cast system in America. Some south Asian people who came to the USA had the understanding that black Americans were an inférieur race and started treating them like that. They eventually stopped and asked for forgiveness after black people In Houston for example, reacted violently They eventually understood that A/ black will not accept to be treated an inhuman way B/ the laws in American will not tolerate such behaviour C/ the public opinion will not accepte such a conduct In a cast society, there is no legal protection for the lower cast people who happened to be dark skin There is no way for the lower cast to object to inhumaine and humiliating treatment. The public opinion will be against any change. The higher cast will make sure that the lower cast will stay in their place. Black people living in a societies where there is a cast system like India are treated in inhuman ways. Ask africains how they are treated in they own countries by indo-Pakistanis ethnic origin living in theirs countries for century. In the UK often, members of the government indo pakistanais ethnic origin tend to adopt measures against African countries or black people. While living in the USA, I sometimes accounted blacks servants from lower cast brought in American by Middle Eastern families to serve them. Once these families learned that their servants were in contact with black Americans, they would quickly send them the same people were interacting with black but still view them as inferior race and often prohibited any mixed mariage etc. We should be cautious going around saying that the discrimination of black in America is routed in a cast system. That will be like opening a Pandora box. Such a statement will have negative implication for blacks Americans and for blacks around the world… This argument could be use to advocate for race separation and for the destruction of multicultural societies The respects earned by blacks could be taking back. Racism is a varus that have a capacity to contaminate people mind living in Different countries for centuries. Some people can be cured other people leave with the disease without knowing and other can never be cure. Claiming that we have another disease will not cure the one we already have. To paraphrase your guess this théorie of cast in America came from a stew….
Its the American caste system its not identical but you need to go to the beginning to understand. They even have books written by whites telling you the reasoning as well as names places and dates. I had to do research and i went all the way in.
There is not caste as we know in America. Black people in society where there is cast are threatened very differently The behaviour of people originaire from south East Asian living in Africa is way different from the behaviour of white When south East Asian started settling in Houston some of them brought cast practice e.g they would refuse to take money from back people hand etc some black people reacted violently The south East Asian community end up for forgiveness
Michael - all of this academic jargon to bday nothing. Let Isabel with her straight practical un-academic talk You are noise besides this woman!! Shut up let are speak PLEASE
I love both the interviewer and the interviewee, but the interviewer is way too verbose! I would have loved to here Mrs. Wilkerson speak a lot more, whew!
Good talk. Yet, it is about extending an analysis of the problem based on India´s problematic metaphor. Euro/Am´s Christian culture has greater flexibility that leaves Wilkerson drawing on 1919 events. She does draw on modern racist behavior, but it´s all shadows of the socioeconomic system that rich profiteering execs have driven and indoctrinated, since before the Reagan-era. That is the ultimate source of injustice, and it is exploring socioeconomic activism like the co-op biz model used in food co-ops, the Afro-Am Fed of S Co-ops, Jackson Rising, and the international association of co-ops and Fair Trade. Dyson saying that there is no racism in Brazil? That´s what the aristocrats SAY....That´s why credibility assessments are a basic scholarly tool. For activists, too.
@@jl4073 "Apologies" are a good, or even exceptional, sign suggesting responsible conduct for an individual in group contexts like this internet one, no less. May you be blessed by the integrity of reading and reflecting that makes learning for eco-social justice activism, and spiritual-religious understanding part of the world´s diversity in Jesus´ legacy for the Highest Power of all in FDR´s legacy of UN human rights, and more.
I can't stop listening to her Interviews 🎉! She's a powerful writer and researcher❤!
Same!!
Racial Mythology! I'm two years late to this train but these conversations are dear to me!!
Welcome. This woman is simply amazing!!
These experts are by far the greatest thinkers of our time.. Watching this interview, takes me back to the campus of Howard University. I can’t pull away. What a phenomenal experience.
Thank you Isabel Wilkerson for bringing the inhuman Indian Caste system into a strong focus among other important achievements of this book. For all its technological advances, Indian higher castes are proudly upholding this system even specifying desirable caste for a potential bride or groom in the matrimonial classified section of their newspapers. This is almost a neutral example compared to the treatment of the "Untouchable" caste- by the sheer misfortune of birth -who are marked for only cleaning jobs that no one will touch - for their children's entire life also.
This discussion really digs deep into the meaning of caste, race, and class. This is an extremely important discussion. I wish the world could attend and hear it, and join in and debate, and really pull back the curtains on what’s mostly misunderstood and put into boxes nice little neat boxes that justify the isms that brings out of this caste system.
Great conversation... loved the metaphor about caste in comparison to the human body where:
Caste= bones , ideology = blood , race = skin
True true. On another interview Jon Stewart used the old house metaphor was truly eye opening for me. But im a little slooow you see.😝
I believe Ms. Wilkerson introduced the old house metaphor.❤
Yup, what he said, scabs are wearing off, and we never needed to pull them off, they were coming off, we needed to explain and witness our endurance of pain and the will to thrive.... we are living in a unique era of disclosure and discovery of details about black life...by authors like Isabel Wilkerson
It’s difficult to have a person realize they are incorrect when their salary depends upon their continuing to be incorrect. Race grifter.
brilliant discssion
I wonder if Dr. Frances Cress Welsing's seminal research resulting in her published writings The Cress Theory of Color-Confrontation and Racism and "The Isis Papers" had any influence on Isabel Wilkerson's
Dr, Frances Cress Welsing was a liar with an agenda. Her book “ Isis papers “ is just mixture of trash history with magnificent lies .
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
I've just seen the movie "Origin"...If the black minds of yesterday helped to build these giants of freedom, literature, and thinking then the future is in good hands.....You are young, gifted, and Black. We must begin to tell our young, There's a world waiting for you, Yours is the quest that's just begun - James Weldon Johnson
I got to get 2 of her books. Cant believe im this late.
Hopefully you didn’t waste your $$
Is it me, or does he like to hear himself talk. 😂
Yes she is one of the best I heard so far because she makes it simple.but you on the other hand is just saying a bunch of big words that not everyone is going to understand what you are saying.and you maybe right and you're right.but I have to pull out a dictionary just to understand you and stop you every three or four minutes just to get to understand what you're saying average people do not understand what you saying I admire you for your knowledge but you can get a lot more across to the people in and just simple words.
😅😅😅😅Okaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy!!!!!
I agree! Some conversations are so serious and important that one must lay aside the theatrics and keep it simple. This caste system continues to kill us!🙏
He frequently uses the “big” words inappropriately. He isn’t as smart as he thinks he is. His speech is largely “word salad” and when dissected it doesn’t make much sense to the topics being discussed.
Love me some Isabel her books are AMAZZING!! Please get her book people white and black as it is soo important for the history of the country- I’m fan boying out myself ❤😊
Fan of both. This was an academic love fest!
There is no cast system in America.
Some south Asian people who came to the USA had the understanding that black Americans were an inférieur race and started treating them like that.
They eventually stopped and asked for forgiveness after black people In Houston for example, reacted violently
They eventually understood that
A/ black will not accept to be treated an inhuman way
B/ the laws in American will not tolerate such behaviour
C/ the public opinion will not accepte such a conduct
In a cast society, there is no legal protection for the lower cast people who happened to be dark skin
There is no way for the lower cast to object to inhumaine and humiliating treatment.
The public opinion will be against any change.
The higher cast will make sure that the lower cast will stay in their place.
Black people living in a societies where there is a cast system like India are treated in inhuman ways.
Ask africains how they are treated in they own countries by indo-Pakistanis ethnic origin living in theirs countries for century.
In the UK often, members of the government indo pakistanais ethnic origin tend to adopt measures against African countries or black people.
While living in the USA, I sometimes accounted blacks servants from lower cast brought in American by Middle Eastern families to serve them.
Once these families learned that their servants were in contact with black Americans, they would quickly send them the same people were interacting with black but still view them as inferior race and often prohibited any mixed mariage etc.
We should be cautious going around saying that the discrimination of black in America is routed in a cast system.
That will be like opening a Pandora box.
Such a statement will have negative implication for blacks Americans and for blacks around the world…
This argument could be use to advocate for race separation and for the destruction of multicultural societies
The respects earned by blacks could be taking back.
Racism is a varus that have a capacity to contaminate people mind living in Different countries for centuries.
Some people can be cured other people leave with the disease without knowing and other can never be cure.
Claiming that we have another disease will not cure the one we already have.
To paraphrase your guess this théorie of cast in America came from a stew….
She is speaking our truth. I question your motive. Check out her Jon Stewart interview maybe that will help you out. He explains it very simple.
Its the American caste system its not identical but you need to go to the beginning to understand. They even have books written by whites telling you the reasoning as well as names places and dates. I had to do research and i went all the way in.
Let me ask you something? Where did the people from India get their understanding that blacks were inferior?
There is not caste as we know in America.
Black people in society where there is cast are threatened very differently
The behaviour of people originaire from south East Asian living in Africa is way different from the behaviour of white
When south East Asian started settling in Houston some of them brought cast practice e.g they would refuse to take money from back people hand etc some black people reacted violently
The south East Asian community end up for forgiveness
When did this happen?
This is all nonsense to create Anti Indian Hindu bias and phobia
Michael - all of this academic jargon to bday nothing. Let Isabel with her straight practical un-academic talk
You are noise besides this woman!!
Shut up let are speak
PLEASE
Dude, kill the rhetorical embellishment
Dyson talks too much with too much animation. Please let the woman speak, she is brilliant.
I love both the interviewer and the interviewee, but the interviewer is way too verbose! I would have loved to here Mrs. Wilkerson speak a lot more, whew!
Ethnic propaganda in marketed…for greed
Michael E Dyson.
WHO THE HELL IS THE SO CALLED HIGH YELLA CLOWN?
lmaoooo i like this guy sooo funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣
A scholar. Who are you
Good talk. Yet, it is about extending an analysis of the problem based on India´s problematic metaphor. Euro/Am´s Christian culture has greater flexibility that leaves Wilkerson drawing on 1919 events. She does draw on modern racist behavior, but it´s all shadows of the socioeconomic system that rich profiteering execs have driven and indoctrinated, since before the Reagan-era. That is the ultimate source of injustice, and it is exploring socioeconomic activism like the co-op biz model used in food co-ops, the Afro-Am Fed of S Co-ops, Jackson Rising, and the international association of co-ops and Fair Trade.
Dyson saying that there is no racism in Brazil? That´s what the aristocrats SAY....That´s why credibility assessments are a basic scholarly tool. For activists, too.
Huh!!! Have you read her books boy!!!???😮
@@jl4073 "boy"? you don´t know who you are, addressing people like that. Re-read what I said. the subject is bigger than "her books," dear lost soul.
@@robinhoodstfrancis Then I apologize Mr Peacemst 😒
@@jl4073 "Apologies" are a good, or even exceptional, sign suggesting responsible conduct for an individual in group contexts like this internet one, no less.
May you be blessed by the integrity of reading and reflecting that makes learning for eco-social justice activism, and spiritual-religious understanding part of the world´s diversity in Jesus´ legacy for the Highest Power of all in FDR´s legacy of UN human rights, and more.