“When it comes to bike racks, they’ll break eventually-just watch anyone on a world tour. Two things are almost guaranteed: the rack will fail, and the rider will either weld it or buy a new one. Now, let’s talk about Mountain Man racks. They’re 100% tough-I haven’t seen one fail yet. However, with newer, stronger racks, it’s not the racks that are breaking anymore; it’s the eyelet mounts on the frame. Basically, there’s always going to be a failure point-either the frame mounts or the rack. My recommendation is to use an Aeroe rack. It won’t fail, and it doesn’t rely on eyelet mounts.”
Appreciate your comment mate. That's one of the things I like most about Old Man Mountain racks is the ability to run axle mounting which takes the strain off the eyelets mounts. Adding to their robust nature!
However I have seen an Aero rack fail in two ways. One breaking a frame. The leverage it can apply on seat stays, particularly carbon ones is not what they were designed for so Booom! Another was a Ryan Van Duzer trip where his companions Aero rack had issues with its mounting design and trip got cancelled. There is no perfect product.
@@JeremyLawrence-imajez you do know Ryan forgot to tighten the bolts when he installed it he did mention it in the video .. i asked him about it they where in a rush leaving just put it on .. the carbon frame i did here about made in china cheap frame and you forgot to mention that the guy crashed his bike hard and frame broke at the point of the crash …. I been using it on a fully carbon Ike for 5 years never an issue ..
@@Bikepacking I've never had a heart attack, so by your logic heart attacks are not an issue either. I wasn't referring to the the bike you had mentioned in a video either because I wasn't aware of that, it was another one. And crashing bikes is a fairly common occurrence off road. Even a low speed tumble can result in a serious amount of force through stays due the leverage of the Aeroe design. I'm aware user error was part of the problem with the Van Duzer mishap, just like him snapping a Gates belt drive was. But all these things illustrate how supposedly problem free kit isn't issue free. Even with very experienced folk. Not saying they are bad, just they are not the perfect problem solution as some folk like to make out.
@@JeremyLawrence-imajez the reason i use them is less chance to fail thats my point .. i changed a lot of my gear out over the years with one thing in mind more durable ..
And just down the road from Abbey Bike Tools in Bend, OR too
Perfect 👌
Thru Axle Fit Kit, ain't great when you have to remove a wheel for repair on an endurance race
“When it comes to bike racks, they’ll break eventually-just watch anyone on a world tour. Two things are almost guaranteed: the rack will fail, and the rider will either weld it or buy a new one. Now, let’s talk about Mountain Man racks. They’re 100% tough-I haven’t seen one fail yet. However, with newer, stronger racks, it’s not the racks that are breaking anymore; it’s the eyelet mounts on the frame. Basically, there’s always going to be a failure point-either the frame mounts or the rack. My recommendation is to use an Aeroe rack. It won’t fail, and it doesn’t rely on eyelet mounts.”
Appreciate your comment mate. That's one of the things I like most about Old Man Mountain racks is the ability to run axle mounting which takes the strain off the eyelets mounts. Adding to their robust nature!
However I have seen an Aero rack fail in two ways. One breaking a frame. The leverage it can apply on seat stays, particularly carbon ones is not what they were designed for so Booom! Another was a Ryan Van Duzer trip where his companions Aero rack had issues with its mounting design and trip got cancelled. There is no perfect product.
@@JeremyLawrence-imajez you do know Ryan forgot to tighten the bolts when he installed it he did mention it in the video .. i asked him about it they where in a rush leaving just put it on .. the carbon frame i did here about made in china cheap frame and you forgot to mention that the guy crashed his bike hard and frame broke at the point of the crash …. I been using it on a fully carbon Ike for 5 years never an issue ..
@@Bikepacking I've never had a heart attack, so by your logic heart attacks are not an issue either.
I wasn't referring to the the bike you had mentioned in a video either because I wasn't aware of that, it was another one. And crashing bikes is a fairly common occurrence off road. Even a low speed tumble can result in a serious amount of force through stays due the leverage of the Aeroe design.
I'm aware user error was part of the problem with the Van Duzer mishap, just like him snapping a Gates belt drive was. But all these things illustrate how supposedly problem free kit isn't issue free. Even with very experienced folk. Not saying they are bad, just they are not the perfect problem solution as some folk like to make out.
@@JeremyLawrence-imajez the reason i use them is less chance to fail thats my point .. i changed a lot of my gear out over the years with one thing in mind more durable ..