Feel very blessed as an Indian today that all the Muslims who despised India and chased a Turkik/Arabic/Persian/Pathan identity packed their bags and left for their very own nation. It was bloody and tragic, but a price well and truly paid a long long time ago. Good luck to them in their country we are happy with ours Thank you.
What is the problem with a Turkic/Arabic identity? It was the British who divided Indians along these identities and people like you fell for it easily. The British loved Indians like you who played into their hands.
What kind of comment is that. There are Muslims who opted for Pakistan because they didn't feel safe not because of hate. There are other Muslim families who stayed in India like mine, and whose country is India just as much as any other person. By the way, just because a Muslim may have Turk/Arab/Pathan ancestry it doesn't make them any less Indian. Leave your bigotry behind and don't bother commenting such ridiculous things.
I have specifically mentioned only the Muslims who left, not the ones who stayed back at all. Whether they left because they hated India or feared India, it's the same difference. Regarding ancestory again I specifically spoke of ones who chased that and despised India and not the ones who did not hate India or indeed staying in India. I have enough Pashto/Persian Indian Muslims friends who are a credit to India today. There was no bigotry in my comment, just a tacit understanding after all these years that as painful and bloody as the whole business of the partition was, when it happened; it was actually for the best for all. Also in the end I wished the ones who chose to leave all the best in their country and when I said said we are happy with ours, not for a second did I exclude you or our Pashto/Persian/Turkik countrymen; it is equally ours...all of us included
You are right. Otherwise they would be stuck with ppl like u, who force those Muslims who stayed to scream Ram’s name or risk their lives by carrying the wrong kind of meat! And you are right, it was fear of the new Hindu majority that worried the Muslims who saw what the RSS had planned for minorities.
As a 74 years old Pakistani gentleman, this show brought back of old memories of 1950, 60s when we used to have visitors from North Indian cities. They were better educated with broder look at politics of Pakistan and India. Sometimes I wonder if partition was realy necessary. After reading so many hateful comments from so many Hindu Indians, I am rethinking my position about partition of India in 1947.
Seeing what Islamic bigotry run Pakistan has done to itself, we are are immensely thankful that partition did occur. With those many more Muslims in an undivided India after 1947 one can imagine the much bigger problems for the non Muslim majority!
@@shoaibghori8939 Shoaib Sahab, Adaab! What has been the class of intelligentsia in power in Pakistan since 1947? How come a country like Indonesia, the largest Muslim country, has Muslims having names like "Meghawati Sukarnoputri", while next door Punjabis have Arab and Turkic affinities?
Good point. The massacre of Sikhs and hindus in Multan by the Muslims started this gory chapter. Killing Kafirs and selling their women as booty was an established practice.
It says 'by 1946, partition was still avoidable', but they talk about, as far as I understood, their personal stories, which are also not partition stories, and both of them are probably in UK now. I heard about Lucknow, it seems all the intrigues in the world took place at Lucknow. How people there were/are so proud, still, to have worked with foreign rulers, Mughals, British, and to have conspired against their own land. How they travelled, by sea, while refugees were being killed in trains, on the roads, in the towns, in Punjab, to Karachi post partition and continued their intrigues, this time against Pakistan. As far as I could make out of their stories, they have now an Identity crisis, because all their lives they thought only about their carrier, and not of their own roots/culture. Now they find themselves mentally asunder, neither here nor there, neither English nor Indian/Pakistani would like to relate with them. Maybe, I don't know. Entertainment doesn't give long enough peace of mind! Give up, stop deceiving yourselves.
Might it be worth that you read history and educate yourself about the cabinet mission plan that Jinnah from the All India Muslim League and Azad president of the Indian National Congress accepted and therefore partition was shelved. But then came along Nehru (after taking over from Azad) and said that he would tear apart the Cabinet Mission plan. So yes, until Nehru took over the presidency of the Indian national congress in 1946, partition indeed was going to be avoided.
literally the whole world thinks indians, pakistanis and bangladeshis as one people bro. they even use the same slur of 'pajeet' for all three nations.
That particular slur is reserved for Hindus but ur point is somewhat valid. But the world has worked out the differences between the three nations and while we have many commonalities, there are points of distinction (mostly on religious lines)
I have a picture of Lady Mountbatten with Pandit Nehru, Maulana Azad, and others including my parents. A reminder of thenshattered hopes and dreams of many.
To be honest it was majoritarian centrist Nehru who shattered it all by torpedoing in July 1946 the agreed upon Cabinet Mission Plan that guaranteed a United India with greatly autonomous provinces.
@@naeemameen5696 That still means a kind of disunity, so how exactly did it help? Dumb Pakistanis keep repeating Cabinet Mission nonsense without even looking at details and also that Muslim League did not have any experienced politicians with no agenda for reform.
@@naeemameen5696 Cabinet Mission Plan was pure nonsense. Modern nation states are struggling to govern the existing "decentralised" India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal and even Bangladesh now, then increasing its size even further makes no sense. 😂
@@naeemameen5696 Was the Cabinet Mission Plan a temporary arrangement for 10 years after which the self governing units could secede from the Union by a simple majority vote? It was this clause that killed the Cabinet Misison Plan.
We never had PARTITION of BRITISH India , nevertheless it was the scooping of two provinces es one was theBengal Province and theOther wasPunjab provinces.indact it should have been vivisected had the UP was also divided . The trouble starts if hegemony is encouraged and the Hindu concept ofAkhanda Bharat is dangerous.RSS wont change the hardcoreMuslims wont change . That is why DrBhim Rao Ambedkar wrote Hindus andMuslims are two species altogether and Gandhi was like lunatic to think H M are likeGanga and jamuna.drAmvedkar had called Gandhhiji’s attempt to bringH/M as one asInsanity.Dr Ambedkar’s thoughts on Pakistan lends support for seperation as he feared muslin high number in theIndian Army so he suggested division ok Our students never get to know the truth as the casteism is a bar like
Amazing chat by these two great ladies. You might find a book that I recently came across. of interest. It's called the The Looking Glass Voyage. Memoirs of a Pakistani Surgeon.
@@thrinethran2885 Throughout the Centuries Islamists like waliullah preached that Muslims were a separate nation from the local people (after conversion to Islam, every local became an Arab, Turk, or Persian). Islamic rulers maintained foreign armies, funded foreign Islamist "scholars", and invited foreigners to attack locals on their behalf.
With hindsight, the British colonialists ACCIDENTALLY or INADVERTENTLY did India a big favour, by keeping tens of millions of Muslims out of India ........but the 90% of Muslims in India who voted for Pakistan , should have moved or been sent to Pakistan
Britishers did MANUVAADI TERRORIST's like you a big favor by diving the only resistance block (Muslims) against BRAHMINICAL TYRANY . Had India not been divided then 25% Muslim + 25% Dalits + 10% Adivasis + 4% Christians & Sikhs = 64% Total , would've made HINDUTVA TERRORIST BJP/RSS politically irrelevant. By the way , J&K was 84% Muslim Majority in 1948 . On what basis did HINDUTVA TERRORIST's like you merged it with India???
@@parjanyashukla176 look at cabinet mission plan 1946. All are Indian states. Now Pakistan is Existing still according to cabinet mission plan. So I ask who made Pakistan outside India/Hindia/Hindiyyah
DrSyamaPrasad Mukhopadhyay insisted on the division and had said” bharat vagg na hilaya ou Banglabhag ho at? Washe responsible for all the deaths and destruction? India was not divided only Punjab and Bengal divided. It was on the insistence of Bengali leader as naam ed before Why do I blame jinna only blames all the ten bharat vivahon ka gunahgar including hindu party communist and congress.Dr ambedkar was also in favour of seperstion Discuss in full
True, only the Punjab and Bengal were divided causing untold miseries, death and destruction to 10 miilion people who were divested from their roots with one million deaths among Hindus-Sikhs and Muslims. Ask the people who were ripped apart from their roots and they would say- Partition should not have happened. Reconciliation now is a distant, unreal dream. In 1969, when I was in Australia attending a year-long course, a fellow-student a Pakistani (from West Punjab) became afriend and wistfully told me: Kuldip. if there is a bright hope of rapproachement between our two countries, it would only be feasible under the current generation ie those born before 1947. Because, after this generation passes away, the division between the two countries could become unbridgable.
@@kuldipsinghbrar5859 A lot of Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs and many Bengali Hindus terribly miss the company of Muslims who cleaned out Sikhs and Hindus from Pakistani Punjab and are doing so from Bangladesh now. I have always been curious: why did these Sikhs and Hindus not move to Pakistan when they had the chance in 1947? They did not even protest against Master Tara Singh in support of Jinnah. Jinnah was willing to give these Bengali Hindus and Punjabi Sikhs and Hindus a great deal, like he gave to jogender nath mandal..
@@ManiKumar-ht1cf Frankly, Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs and Bengali Hindus who were clearly in love with Muslim in 1947 should write about their understanding of Muslims and of Islam. That will be a great historical record for all of our future generations.
@@PS-ej2xn now once again in history we ought to raise our voice no matter how feeble it May sound to be. That is the humbug of so called Amanda Bharat must be screwed from the Hindu political practioners. Let each country grow on its help and hegemonistic attitude must be denied to political workers.i use the term political worker and not politicians as none has the quality of a proper leader. Religion must remain limited to private practising with no ccompetetion .
This is just an academic exercise, not genuine in its intent given Pakistan and Pakistanis continued animosity and nefarious behavior towards India and Hindus. Unless Muslims of those times and today transform and become more accommodating of other cultures and religions, as Hindus and Indians are, this isn’t an authentic theory
Dr ShyamaPrasad Mukhopadhyay ‘s mistake theHindu history of etraz overlooked but the reality is though theHindu Bengalese andMuslim Bengalese know what happens ed they never revealed the cause of their folly
@@ManiKumar-ht1cf Most definitely Bengali Hindus would have loved to live in a united Bengal as part of Islamic Pakistan. Mukhopadhyay brought these people into India.
@@eonworldwide4724 Thank God Savarkar came before Mr Syed Ahmad and before all those Islamists who had been preaching Islamist domination over India's local population for centuries, right to the very end..
Reconciliation is possible with the people, unfortunately it is more difficult with the politicians.. I wish Punjab had never been partitioned. Sikhs , Hindus , Muslims share the same culture. Sat Sri Akal , Salam, shalom Shanti .
Jinnah had the same desire by accepting Cabinet Mission Plan but Nehru, Patel and Co. sabotaged his efforts. Jinnah then requested Sikh leaders to stop the division of Punjab but they divided Punjab with the river of blood. Lets curse those who divided India and then Punjab.
@saqibsiddiqui9578 Don't lie and distort historical facts. Jinnah was the sole responsible for the division's atrocities. I recommend you to study Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmad's books on Partition of India especially on Partition of Punjab "The Punjab Bloodied, Partitioned and Cleansed"!
two high priests from lalaland with NO connect to the brutal massacre happening on ground due to Jinnah and his fanatics talking about some mythical world!
Shame on Anita Anand. Giving such a soft glove treatment to worst of moneyed people who were so fortunate to earn best in all three places, and ignore the tragedy that befell on lakhs of Hindus and Sikhs. Unbelievable.
@@saqibsiddiqui9578 Right sir .. how many of those ended up staying at Teen Murti Bhavan? How many were offered to live at Mohan Singh's palace? Which, by the way, was looted, as per Mishal. Imagine, how many of you know that anything and everything good in Modern Lahore and Karachi and Pindi was constructed by Hindus and Sikhs. If nothing else, learn that from Mishal ...
@@pvaishearn from Mishal? Your people killed millions and no Meshal could change that fact. She belonged to a rich military family and this is why her family alone lived at that palace or perhaps one or two more. Your people spilled a flood of river and this is history. But your people are still proud of it and this is what makes us different
@@venkateswarluk5133 First, it was Congress that demanded partition of India. Then it was Sikh leadership that demanded the partition of Punjab. You probably are influenced by propaganda but it wouldn't help in an argument.
The division British India into Present day India and Pakistan! is the will of the God by which Hindus culture, tradition and antiquity is saved! Also,Indians would be beggars in rheir own land losing their life for Islamic fundamentalists! Those argued for united India that not knowing the result what rhey are doing! Bharath is protected those blessings of Vedic sages! This is damn sure!
British India was not a country, rather a colonial empire, never one or whole. It should have been further divided and South Asia would be at peace. Mountbatten or Dick y, intimate friend of Nehru wanted to give freedom to all 500 states, but Nehru convinced hin with his sort of charm not to go that way. Muslins are still a nation in India, and Pakistan is a state of mind. Which is to be free, a concept, a class ridden and extreme misogynist society can never imagine.
There was nobpartition, it's a complete myth. India was always a subcontinent and never a country. Lots of independent kingdoms and states existed within it, that had been fighting, conquering and butchering each other for centuries, pretty much what had happened in Europe. Could we say Europe is partitioned! At the end of the British raj, two new counteries emerged. Those many kingdoms were asked if and who they wanted to become a part of. One of the new country called itself Pakistan, the other however conscripted the name of the subcontinent for itself. Even more ironic is the fact that the words India and Hindustan come from a place that became part of Pakistan. Imagine if a large country emerges in Asia and then it chooses to call itself Asia, it's sounds absurd but that's exactly what happened in the subcontinent of India. India's very identity comes from s province and a river of Pakistan, Sindh and river Indus respectively
As long as you use the words India and Hindustan, you'll just have to confront with the painfully fact that the people of Pakistan (sindhis and Punjabis) are your daddy.
This is why Muslims are low on education charts, India was a name that came from Persia and Greeks , by the time it got to the English it was India lol , the reason is similar to ancient greek , yes many kingdoms existed but as a collective they were known as indic from language to culture. And these descriptions come from writing we have from ancient Greece, Rome , Egypt and so on lol , you've clearly never looked into any real history 😂
Indian economy is 1/7th that of Chinas. China makes its own fighter jets, and built infrastructure and developed China at a much much faster pact than India with its corrupt, caste system.
Hope it provides enough decent toilets to its residents by then so that they stop defecating in public. And yes, will have to do something about the Gau🐄Mata and its omnipresent shit & urine.
1.53 billion population and growing still could reach 1.7 billion + Economy of only 3.7 trillion clearly shows that it is growing naturally due to population boom
@@seemasikander7412 How exactly is partition an issue then. Problem should have been solved and you should have moved on by now. What the heck is the problem exactly? You were not happy with Hindus, now you are not happy being separated. What do you want exactly?
One of greatest ever happened in subcontinent is partition of India and Pakistan and Bangladesh there should be more nation must emerge from India like khalistan kashmir and more as brutality of hinduwata fascist against Muslims Sikh and other minority in india
2 failed countries and u want 2 more 🤣🤣 . The Islamic rulers of Bharat were the real fascists who committed large scale of genocide of Hindus and Sikhs
Feel very blessed as an Indian today that all the Muslims who despised India and chased a Turkik/Arabic/Persian/Pathan identity packed their bags and left for their very own nation.
It was bloody and tragic, but a price well and truly paid a long long time ago.
Good luck to them in their country we are happy with ours
Thank you.
What is the problem with a Turkic/Arabic identity? It was the British who divided Indians along these identities and people like you fell for it easily. The British loved Indians like you who played into their hands.
What kind of comment is that. There are Muslims who opted for Pakistan because they didn't feel safe not because of hate. There are other Muslim families who stayed in India like mine, and whose country is India just as much as any other person. By the way, just because a Muslim may have Turk/Arab/Pathan ancestry it doesn't make them any less Indian.
Leave your bigotry behind and don't bother commenting such ridiculous things.
I have specifically mentioned only the Muslims who left, not the ones who stayed back at all. Whether they left because they hated India or feared India, it's the same difference.
Regarding ancestory again I specifically spoke of ones who chased that and despised India and not the ones who did not hate India or indeed staying in India.
I have enough Pashto/Persian Indian Muslims friends who are a credit to India today.
There was no bigotry in my comment, just a tacit understanding after all these years that as painful and bloody as the whole business of the partition was, when it happened; it was actually for the best for all.
Also in the end I wished the ones who chose to leave all the best in their country and when I said said we are happy with ours, not for a second did I exclude you or our Pashto/Persian/Turkik countrymen; it is equally ours...all of us included
You are right. Otherwise they would be stuck with ppl like u, who force those Muslims who stayed to scream Ram’s name or risk their lives by carrying the wrong kind of meat! And you are right, it was fear of the new Hindu majority that worried the Muslims who saw what the RSS had planned for minorities.
As a 74 years old Pakistani gentleman, this show brought back of old memories of 1950, 60s when we used to have visitors from North Indian cities. They were better
educated with broder look at politics of Pakistan and India.
Sometimes I wonder if partition was realy necessary.
After reading so many hateful comments from so many Hindu Indians, I am rethinking my position about partition of India in 1947.
Yes it was definitely necessary because we don't want any more Punjabis.
Seeing what Islamic bigotry run Pakistan has done to itself, we are are immensely thankful that partition did occur. With those many more Muslims in an undivided India after 1947 one can imagine the much bigger problems for the non Muslim majority!
@@shoaibghori8939
Shoaib Sahab, Adaab!
What has been the class of intelligentsia in power in Pakistan since 1947?
How come a country like Indonesia, the largest Muslim country, has Muslims having names like "Meghawati Sukarnoputri", while next door Punjabis have Arab and Turkic affinities?
Osama calling obama terrorist
Stay the F away from us u are a desease. 🤮
what a way to create false equivalence to say violence was on both sides
Good point. The massacre of Sikhs and hindus in Multan by the Muslims started this gory chapter. Killing Kafirs and selling their women as booty was an established practice.
It says 'by 1946, partition was still avoidable', but they talk about, as far as I understood, their personal stories, which are also not partition stories, and both of them are probably in UK now.
I heard about Lucknow, it seems all the intrigues in the world took place at Lucknow. How people there were/are so proud, still, to have worked with foreign rulers, Mughals, British, and to have conspired against their own land. How they travelled, by sea, while refugees were being killed in trains, on the roads, in the towns, in Punjab, to Karachi post partition and continued their intrigues, this time against Pakistan.
As far as I could make out of their stories, they have now an Identity crisis, because all their lives they thought only about their carrier, and not of their own roots/culture.
Now they find themselves mentally asunder, neither here nor there, neither English nor Indian/Pakistani would like to relate with them. Maybe, I don't know.
Entertainment doesn't give long enough peace of mind! Give up, stop deceiving yourselves.
Your post makes absolutely no sense
Perfectly captured the mindset.
Power and economic disparities produce tragedies for the masses.The subcontinent is not an exception.
Might it be worth that you read history and educate yourself about the cabinet mission plan that Jinnah from the All India Muslim League and Azad president of the Indian National Congress accepted and therefore partition was shelved. But then came along Nehru (after taking over from Azad) and said that he would tear apart the Cabinet Mission plan.
So yes, until Nehru took over the presidency of the Indian national congress in 1946, partition indeed was going to be avoided.
I disagree. By 1946 the momentum for Partition had been built to such an extent that it was unstoppable
Incredible conversation by two of the most articulate women in the industry😊👍❤️
I totally agree
Two utter idiots
As an Indian, no thanks. No one in the world thinks of Indians and Pakistanis as at all alike, because they are not alike.
As an Indian, piss off. Indians and Pakistanis are the same people with a shared history. The world would be better off without bigots like you.
literally the whole world thinks indians, pakistanis and bangladeshis as one people bro. they even use the same slur of 'pajeet' for all three nations.
@@yetigumba Not really. When you see the word 'pajeet' it's usually a dead giveaway that there's a Pakistani involved.
That particular slur is reserved for Hindus but ur point is somewhat valid. But the world has worked out the differences between the three nations and while we have many commonalities, there are points of distinction (mostly on religious lines)
Both of you ladies are jewal in the crown of BB4.and in our life.
Proud of you as an Asian.
Imagine an India with an additional 500 million Muslims....
Yeah it would be great
@@scottishbanjo sure
Bharat just escaped becoming pakistan! Thank you Jinnah!
And 1.2 Billion Hindus 💪🏻
Just imagine HOW MANY MUSLIMS WE WOULD HAVE BROUGHT BACK TO HINDUISM!
500 Million more Muslims to Re Convert to Hinduism or Sikhism or Jainism or Buddhism.
Not a bad deal.
Auchinleck was seen as an outsider as he came from the Indian army - particularly by the British army. A much aligned general
I have a picture of Lady Mountbatten with Pandit Nehru, Maulana Azad, and others including my parents. A reminder of thenshattered hopes and dreams of many.
To be honest it was majoritarian centrist Nehru who shattered it all by torpedoing in July 1946 the agreed upon Cabinet Mission Plan that guaranteed a United India with greatly autonomous provinces.
@@naeemameen5696
That still means a kind of disunity, so how exactly did it help?
Dumb Pakistanis keep repeating Cabinet Mission nonsense without even looking at details and also that Muslim League did not have any experienced politicians with no agenda for reform.
@@naeemameen5696
Cabinet Mission Plan was pure nonsense.
Modern nation states are struggling to govern the existing "decentralised" India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal and even Bangladesh now, then increasing its size even further makes no sense. 😂
@@naeemameen5696 Was the Cabinet Mission Plan a temporary arrangement for 10 years after which the self governing units could secede from the Union by a simple majority vote? It was this clause that killed the Cabinet Misison Plan.
Mishal Hussain and Anita Anand are indeed great and interesting ladies!
Amazing story
Another book on the partition of India!
We never had PARTITION of BRITISH India , nevertheless it was the scooping of two provinces es one was theBengal Province and theOther wasPunjab provinces.indact it should have been vivisected had the UP was also divided . The trouble starts if hegemony is encouraged and the Hindu concept ofAkhanda Bharat is dangerous.RSS wont change the hardcoreMuslims wont change . That is why DrBhim Rao Ambedkar wrote Hindus andMuslims are two species altogether and Gandhi was like lunatic to think H M are likeGanga and jamuna.drAmvedkar had called Gandhhiji’s attempt to bringH/M as one asInsanity.Dr Ambedkar’s thoughts on Pakistan lends support for seperation as he feared muslin high number in theIndian Army so he suggested division ok
Our students never get to know the truth as the casteism is a bar like
@@ManiKumar-ht1cf
हिंदी में ही लिख लो भाई ।
Hindi is not every Indian’s Mothertounge.AndI am sure you are not an Englishman either.you are confusing those who have not seen the tragedy
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Amazing chat by these two great ladies. You might find a book that I recently came across. of interest. It's called the The Looking Glass Voyage. Memoirs of a Pakistani Surgeon.
Savarkar was the first one to propose two nations
The Brahmins conspired who were control of India under British
@@eonworldwide4724 Funny, given that It was Jinnah and Islamists who were the lackeys of the British, including Mr Syed Ahmad.
So basically Jinnah was a Hindutva proponent?
Syed Ahmed Khan declared in a speech at Meerut in 1888 that Hindus and Muslims were two nations.
@@thrinethran2885 Throughout the Centuries Islamists like waliullah preached that Muslims were a separate nation from the local people (after conversion to Islam, every local became an Arab, Turk, or Persian). Islamic rulers maintained foreign armies, funded foreign Islamist "scholars", and invited foreigners to attack locals on their behalf.
😂😂😂😂😂 give me source
Mishal Hussain definitely has some Central Asian heritage.
And the same mindset.
@@PS-ej2xn She seems to have a British Asian mindset.
A Brown Memsahab in Loyal Service of His Majesty.
Her grandfather touted it. That he was the direct descendant of so and so. She also has not mentioned that he is the founder of the ISI.
When is pakistan applying for organization of turkic states ?
India should never have been split, the Moguls had a die or convert policy. They should have made Vallabhai Sardar the Prime Minister!
That is a pretty uneducated statement given the fact that Hindus were and continue to be the majority.
The correct pronunciation of Mishal is Mash'al like in مشعلِ راہ
If wishes were horses.....
Michaela (Hebrew מיכאלה) is a female given name.
With hindsight, the British colonialists ACCIDENTALLY or INADVERTENTLY did India a big favour, by keeping tens of millions of Muslims out of India ........but the 90% of Muslims in India who voted for Pakistan , should have moved or been sent to Pakistan
Britishers did MANUVAADI TERRORIST's like you a big favor by diving the only resistance block (Muslims) against BRAHMINICAL TYRANY . Had India not been divided then 25% Muslim + 25% Dalits + 10% Adivasis + 4% Christians & Sikhs = 64% Total , would've made HINDUTVA TERRORIST BJP/RSS politically irrelevant.
By the way , J&K was 84% Muslim Majority in 1948 . On what basis did HINDUTVA TERRORIST's like you merged it with India???
Wrong Pakistan was happened to be an union of states inside Indian Union.
Now question should be asked who made Pakistan outside of India
@@None-self
Lol, pipe dreaming jokers 😂
@@parjanyashukla176 look at cabinet mission plan 1946. All are Indian states.
Now Pakistan is Existing still according to cabinet mission plan.
So I ask who made Pakistan outside India/Hindia/Hindiyyah
@@None-self
I can't understand any of your gibberish
Plz dont destroy England. Be grateful to the country that sheltered you .
😂😂😂 sheltered
Christians are also in big numbers in Muslim countries
You mean "shattered"?
Thank God for partition my family was able to escape UP come to Pakistan and then to heaven on earth which is North America
Alhamdulillah to that
DrSyamaPrasad Mukhopadhyay insisted on the division and had said” bharat vagg na hilaya ou Banglabhag ho at?
Washe responsible for all the deaths and destruction? India was not divided only Punjab and Bengal divided.
It was on the insistence of Bengali leader as naam ed before
Why do I blame jinna only blames all the ten bharat vivahon ka gunahgar including hindu party communist and congress.Dr ambedkar was also in favour of seperstion
Discuss in full
Mullah ji, quit being delusional.
True, only the Punjab and Bengal were divided causing untold miseries, death and destruction to 10 miilion people who were divested from their roots with one million deaths among Hindus-Sikhs and Muslims. Ask the people who were ripped apart from their roots and they would say- Partition should not have happened. Reconciliation now is a distant, unreal dream. In 1969, when I was in Australia attending a year-long course, a fellow-student a Pakistani (from West Punjab) became afriend and wistfully told me: Kuldip. if there is a bright hope of rapproachement between our two countries, it would only be feasible under the current generation ie those born before 1947. Because, after this generation passes away, the division between the two countries could become unbridgable.
@@kuldipsinghbrar5859 A lot of Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs and many Bengali Hindus terribly miss the company of Muslims who cleaned out Sikhs and Hindus from Pakistani Punjab and are doing so from Bangladesh now. I have always been curious: why did these Sikhs and Hindus not move to Pakistan when they had the chance in 1947? They did not even protest against Master Tara Singh in support of Jinnah. Jinnah was willing to give these Bengali Hindus and Punjabi Sikhs and Hindus a great deal, like he gave to jogender nath mandal..
@@ManiKumar-ht1cf Frankly, Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs and Bengali Hindus who were clearly in love with Muslim in 1947 should write about their understanding of Muslims and of Islam. That will be a great historical record for all of our future generations.
@@PS-ej2xn now once again in history we ought to raise our voice no matter how feeble it May sound to be. That is the humbug of so called Amanda Bharat must be screwed from the Hindu political practioners. Let each country grow on its help and hegemonistic attitude must be denied to political workers.i use the term political worker and not politicians as none has the quality of a proper leader. Religion must remain limited to private practising with no ccompetetion .
This is just an academic exercise, not genuine in its intent given Pakistan and Pakistanis continued animosity and nefarious behavior towards India and Hindus. Unless Muslims of those times and today transform and become more accommodating of other cultures and religions, as Hindus and Indians are, this isn’t an authentic theory
Partition is never a solution to any dispute. It tears families apart. No doubt that Jinnah was the villan of the piece
Dr ShyamaPrasad Mukhopadhyay ‘s mistake theHindu history of etraz overlooked but the reality is though theHindu Bengalese andMuslim Bengalese know what happens ed they never revealed the cause of their folly
@@ManiKumar-ht1cf Most definitely Bengali Hindus would have loved to live in a united Bengal as part of Islamic Pakistan. Mukhopadhyay brought these people into India.
The first one to propose two nations was Savarkar 😂
@@eonworldwide4724 Thank God Savarkar came before Mr Syed Ahmad and before all those Islamists who had been preaching Islamist domination over India's local population for centuries, right to the very end..
@@eonworldwide4724
The first Pakistani was Mohammad bin Qasim, ain't it true?
Reconciliation is possible with the people, unfortunately it is more difficult with the politicians.. I wish Punjab had never been partitioned. Sikhs , Hindus , Muslims share the same culture. Sat Sri Akal , Salam, shalom Shanti .
Jinnah had the same desire by accepting Cabinet Mission Plan but Nehru, Patel and Co. sabotaged his efforts. Jinnah then requested Sikh leaders to stop the division of Punjab but they divided Punjab with the river of blood. Lets curse those who divided India and then Punjab.
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पंजाब और पंजाबियों की मां का सोभड़ा ।
Spot on
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Jinnah had no desire for anything constructive, since he was not even a politician but just a lawyer.
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Don't lie and distort historical facts. Jinnah was the sole responsible for the division's atrocities. I recommend you to study Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmad's books on Partition of India especially on Partition of Punjab "The Punjab Bloodied, Partitioned and Cleansed"!
two high priests from lalaland with NO connect to the brutal massacre happening on ground due to Jinnah and his fanatics talking about some mythical world!
Oh yeah! There weren’t any massacres committed by Hindus or Sikhs?!!!
Shame on Anita Anand.
Giving such a soft glove treatment to worst of moneyed people who were so fortunate to earn best in all three places, and ignore the tragedy that befell on lakhs of Hindus and Sikhs. Unbelievable.
Shame on Mashal for giving such a softball treatment to a catastrophe that befell on tens of lakhs of Muslims at the hands of Sikh, Hindus, and Brits.
@@saqibsiddiqui9578 Right sir ..
how many of those ended up staying at Teen Murti Bhavan? How many were offered to live at Mohan Singh's palace? Which, by the way, was looted, as per Mishal. Imagine, how many of you know that anything and everything good in Modern Lahore and Karachi and Pindi was constructed by Hindus and Sikhs. If nothing else, learn that from Mishal ...
@@pvaishearn from Mishal? Your people killed millions and no Meshal could change that fact. She belonged to a rich military family and this is why her family alone lived at that palace or perhaps one or two more. Your people spilled a flood of river and this is history. But your people are still proud of it and this is what makes us different
@@saqibsiddiqui9578 But who is responsible for that by asking the partition.
@@venkateswarluk5133 First, it was Congress that demanded partition of India. Then it was Sikh leadership that demanded the partition of Punjab. You probably are influenced by propaganda but it wouldn't help in an argument.
Savarkar was the first one to propose two nations
The Brahmins conspired who were control of India under British rule
So basically Jinnah was a closet Brahmin?
A lie repeated does not become the truth. Search for Syed Ahmed Khan & two nation theory.
The division British India into Present day India and Pakistan! is the will of the God by which Hindus culture, tradition and antiquity is saved! Also,Indians would be beggars in rheir own land losing their life for Islamic fundamentalists! Those argued for united India that not knowing the result what rhey are doing! Bharath is protected those blessings of Vedic sages! This is damn sure!
The highest GDP was under the Mughals. Good try at rewriting history as usual
British India was not a country, rather a colonial empire, never one or whole. It should have been further divided and South Asia would be at peace.
Mountbatten or Dick y, intimate friend of Nehru wanted to give freedom to all 500 states, but Nehru convinced hin with his sort of charm not to go that way. Muslins are still a nation in India, and Pakistan is a state of mind. Which is to be free, a concept, a class ridden and extreme misogynist society can never imagine.
Chal fut k2wa
@@hkpandey1😅😅😅 The mindset never changes. Every time we deal with one of their kind, mankind must Keep in mind.
LOL!
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Gibberish language!
British India is a country lol madarssachap
when ones children don't have much of a connect with their heritage, why the lecture. be british and make that country great, at least
Nostalgia.
There was nobpartition, it's a complete myth.
India was always a subcontinent and never a country. Lots of independent kingdoms and states existed within it, that had been fighting, conquering and butchering each other for centuries, pretty much what had happened in Europe. Could we say Europe is partitioned!
At the end of the British raj, two new counteries emerged. Those many kingdoms were asked if and who they wanted to become a part of.
One of the new country called itself Pakistan, the other however conscripted the name of the subcontinent for itself. Even more ironic is the fact that the words India and Hindustan come from a place that became part of Pakistan.
Imagine if a large country emerges in Asia and then it chooses to call itself Asia, it's sounds absurd but that's exactly what happened in the subcontinent of India.
India's very identity comes from s province and a river of Pakistan, Sindh and river Indus respectively
Incorrect. "India" is an exonym.
The Bharata endonym actually does refer to ancient Gangetic plains.
So I was correct that the country now known as India, Hindustan or Bharat was always an area/region and never a country before 1947
As long as you use the words India and Hindustan, you'll just have to confront with the painfully fact that the people of Pakistan (sindhis and Punjabis) are your daddy.
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No time for duffer Punjabis. You are probably the most irritating piece of trash in the whole subcontinent.
This is why Muslims are low on education charts, India was a name that came from Persia and Greeks , by the time it got to the English it was India lol , the reason is similar to ancient greek , yes many kingdoms existed but as a collective they were known as indic from language to culture. And these descriptions come from writing we have from ancient Greece, Rome , Egypt and so on lol , you've clearly never looked into any real history 😂
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India is 5th largest economy without the help of Pakistan and will become the 3rd largest without it.
Indian economy is 1/7th that of Chinas. China makes its own fighter jets, and built infrastructure and developed China at a much much faster pact than India with its corrupt, caste system.
Hope it provides enough decent toilets to its residents by then so that they stop defecating in public.
And yes, will have to do something about the Gau🐄Mata and its omnipresent shit & urine.
What we do if India become even 1 economy..?
1.53 billion population and growing still could reach 1.7 billion +
Economy of only 3.7 trillion clearly shows that it is growing naturally due to population boom
Population will reach 2 billions there will no place for poti remeber that
First ask these people who belongs to land of pures that why they created their country and got separated ?.
To get away from Hindu hypocrisy.
For the much more serious issues than the impure people had to carv out Haryana and Himachal from Punjab.
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How exactly is partition an issue then. Problem should have been solved and you should have moved on by now.
What the heck is the problem exactly? You were not happy with Hindus, now you are not happy being separated. What do you want exactly?
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What's the problem with that?
Which Muslim countries? Since when? Conquest?
One of greatest ever happened in subcontinent is partition of India and Pakistan and Bangladesh there should be more nation must emerge from India like khalistan kashmir and more as brutality of hinduwata fascist against Muslims Sikh and other minority in india
2 failed countries and u want 2 more 🤣🤣 . The Islamic rulers of Bharat were the real fascists who committed large scale of genocide of Hindus and Sikhs
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Cheekhta reh khanzeer
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