You failed to mention in your video about the corrupt apathy of tepco in addressing issues which were warned about multiple times prior to the tsunami incident. You glossed over the inadequately designed backup power generators which were badly positioned and vulnerable to flooding. This entire crisis could have been avoided had tepco been more diligent, rather than ignoring a problem for literally decades. I have no trust in the transparency of tepco whatsoever.
so the one south of miami and near fort pierce has been proven leaking isotopes.. for years... salt plumes build up, and florida rock allows flow of water so its in miami waters.. i lived five miles away as a child near miami. this topic i taught on aboutsPage for nine years now... way before this guy, sadly
So turkey point aka the plant in south miami area... is and proven leaking... its in nytimes also and miamiherald.. pro tips i got long ago.. the channel dug into the coral south of miami to that plant is not allowed to be scuba but the lobster there half mile east of the plant are hugely massive oversized.. 😮 so they say
Problem is when other countries asked to go to Fukushima to investigate and collect samples to test themselves, Japan denied access. The test data provided by IAETA (or whatever the organization is called) did not collect the samples themselves. They were provided by TEPCO. TEPCO has a history of coverups, corruption and altered data to suit their needs. Also, the ALPS has had numerous failure to date. Furthermore, they claimed that the filtered water is safe to drink, why not keep it and use it themselves? Tokyo has been experiencing water shortages lately. Over half of Japanese in Japan in a poll showed that they are either concerned or don’t think the water should be dumped to the sea. With neighboring countries voicing against it. The Japanese govt, to be a good neighbor and listens to its citizens should reconsider. One more thing, the international report stated that within the organization, not everyone agreed to dumping it. The organization also stated clearly that if Sh!t hits the fan, they are not responsible for this report. The organization did not consider other ways to get rid of the water. Japan had other options to get rid of the waste water, this is the cheapest way.
That’s interesting, I wasn’t aware of that; do you have a link on it? I agree that it’s a serious concern if they aren’t allowing independent monitoring; not a good look is true :-/
@@lethanhminh8001 That’s obviously true of seawater, so you could monitor water off the coast from the discharge, but it would be difficult to detect small amounts of radionucleotides once the water is released into the ocean. TEPCO and the Japanese government controls access to what’s in the tanks though :-/ (You could presumably find the location of the discharge pipes themselves and sample there, but I’m sure access to the discharge points is restricted by the government “for public safety”, so you probably couldn’t just stick a sampling hose up into the discharge pipe.)
I love how none of the CCP shills can even recall what the IAEA's name is. How anyone can take this kind of shit seriously is beyond my understanding, but I suppose humans are just naturally naive and easily mislead.
TEPCO stock ( a dead company) has up 15 % since June. Someone is making $$ from this tragedy. Watch they decide to short this stock, maybe Japan will stop dumping the toxin.
The headache is biology... tritium bioaccumulates. Life will concentrate the stuff and send it up the food chain. Even though it is very dilute, there is so much... it could be a problem.
@@nickl5658 it doesn’t bioaccumulate. In order to bioaccumulate, it has to have different chemical properties than the ordinary water. But it is not. Like water, it passes out pretty soon. Tritium behaves just like ordinary water in the body, distributing equally throughout the body’s water and excreted in the same ways as water, such as in the forms of urine and sweat Evidence that it doesn’t is the English Channel. For decades France has been dumping 500x more tritium from just one plant , yet no concentration, increased cancers or birth defects in the region.
@@nickl5658 per the IAEA: "Tritiated water cannot bio-accumulate in the environment. However, it is not clear whether or not this is the case for OBT. Even though organically bound tritium can be detected in terrestrial biological materials, aquatic biological materials and soil samples, its behaviour is still in question."
@@managementreply5151 Japan enjoyed the benefit of nuclear power yet now people from other countries need to share the price and risk of the polluted water
@@vincenttwong317It's almost like the Chinese don't dump a volume of chemical waste into their rivers that outdoes anything ever released by Fukushima. Oh wait... 😂
After enjoyed your ridiculous video I’d really like to say thank you for the detailed explanation. I understood the safety of the Fukushima water and the Japanese credit, but after all, why don’t the Japanese use the Fukushima water themselves? Drinking , Washing , Swimming, Planting or even wetting their roads. Thousands of usages for that “Clean Safe Water” were refused by the Japanese government with credit, now they insisted to give the Pacific a cup of drink, even willing to stand against the surrounding countries for this, and set a special Crisis PR budget of USD 500 million……
Absolutely agree! If it's so safe as they'd claimed it to be, why don't they use it as recycled water to flush the toilets, water the plants, feed their pets, etc..
@Orenoyomeeee I have a question for you then why did Green Peace Japan on their website saying the report they received from the Japanese government the tritium level is not 22 claimed here but 860, considering the Japanese government was not honest in declaring a lot of area surrounding Fukushima were safe for people to reside but the radiation level measured by some local far exceed the normal level, we can also look at a company behind the accident TEPCO, a company that is know for corporate dishonesty. It lied about 200 times to Japanese government over safety concerns in 1977-2002, it was also admitting to submit falsified data to the government.
The table at 4:10 is very deceiving. The water released from the 5 nuclear power plants other than Fukushima, any of them have been in direct contact with a melted thru core of the nuclear reactor? To the best of my knowledge, none of these 5 plants have ever experience any melted thru core nuclear accident. The only two similar nuclear accidents I can think of were Chernobyl and Three Mile Island. If you want an apple-to-apple comparison, compare the ocean release of contaminated water from Chernobyl and/or from Three Mile Island. Well, you cannot. The Soviets (Russian and Ukranian) and the Americans at least have the decency to address their nuclear accident internally, without polluting the ocean, which in fact is to export their problem to the whole planet and entire mankind. If Fumio Kishida and Tokyo Electric truly believe what they are telling the whole world, that is, the water from those storage tanks in Fukushima is absolutely safe, why don't they release the water into the rivers and reservoirs near Tokyo so they themselves can prove their claim.
Great idea! So how are we going to move the tons of SALT water out of Fukushima to people that want to use the SALT water for agriculture and industrial use? Are you gonna build a massive pipeline km's long for the Japanese people?
If the ALPS is so good and the treated waste water is so safe, then why do we have to discharge the same into the ocean. I mean, Japan could have simply recylced the waste water into its navigational system or drinking water systems for domestic consumption within its homeland. I am sure we can find a scientific answer to this if someone independent of TEPCO or Japan were given a chance to verify the quality of the discharged water??
@@slittle3527 Chances are you are also drinking seawater (of course, I meant seawater after treatment in desalination plants), but you may not know about it. As a matter of fact, countries using desalination facilities including China, India, Germany, and the USA (for its more arid states like Arizona), city-states like Singapore and Hongkong, Middle East and Africa countries (Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Algeria), as well as island states like Malta and Maldives.
@@VL-inquisitor Do you really know what are you talking about? Desalination do not equal to completely separating salt from water, the concentrated saline still required to be released back to the sea. And after ALPS treatment there's only tritium in the wastewater, which already combined with hydrogen and become water. That's saying even Japan go desalination and reuse the wastewater, since tritium is incapable to be biologically accumulated, they will eventually passed back to the ocean in domestic sewage and natural evaporation after a few days at most. So you are suggesting people to ignore the science and waste tons of energy for what purposes?
@@slittle3527 I know exactly what I was talking about. I merely answered your question whether people drink seawater. It was you who tried to confused subjects (nuclear waste water vs seawater, desalination vs ALPS). And it was you who tried to put words into my month. I never said or suggested people to ignore science
@@VL-inquisitor LOL, it's obviously you are covering up your intentions, it's you in the original comment saying Japan should recycled and using SEAWATER for their domestic use, then challenged by "why don't you drink seawater as well". After that you replied with a half-baked solution "desalination", and being pointed out that desalination makes no differences from discharging them into the sea. Incapable to make things up anymore, so trying to confuse people from the subject ?
When the power plant was in function, it only benefited Japan, so why now people from other countries have to share the cost and risk of dumping the contaminated water into the sea?
@@vincenttwong317 every country with nuclear power does, stop lying. Your country, China being the worst and God knows what type of radioactive waste comes out of North Korea.
Btw, they dunt have to dump those water into Pacific, they have optuons, they just do not want to use otger options since other options a little bit more expensive😂, so they decide to let the earth to pay the bill and make everyone on the earth tobpay for their mistake
😅No, that's just a hydrogen atom forming a hydrogen bond between two water molecules, it's just that we didn't show the rest of the hydrogen atoms on the two water molecules, LOL
In another debate, the Japanese defender refused to say if he would eat the fishes or drink the water in the region, instead, he distracted the attention to the PR as a ploy of the Chinese Communist party. That doesn't make me or people in that region, especially their neighbours, feel comfortable eating fish caught there. Hence, the Chinese and the Korean have the right to be concerned. Had we, Canadians, know about our own discharges, we would be up in arms about that. Geographically, we are far away from other countries and have large bodies of water. Asia doesn't. The report had not in any way approved its safety but Japan picked the words to support its case. It's easy for us from afar to criticize their neighbour's rage, it is they who would be living, eating and drinking the discharged wastewater.
Fair arguments if it wasn't for a thing hipocrisy. Both China and South Korea governments have approved dumping of wastewater (triatied water) in the past, so what they are doing now is using an event (Fukushima wastewater release) to further their goal, this is especially true for China.
@@riky-gl8nl wastewater and radioactive water is totally different, and speculations about China conspiracy theories are rumors deliberately spread by the United States, Japan and their followers.
Curious as to where you get your information about this. A lot of reports are prepared and paid for by TEPCO. I also don't think IAEA approved the release, it only tested a couple of radioactive tests and said they met their guidelines. Huge difference! If the ALPS is that great of a system, the creator should have open their book for other nations to test their samples too. Smell a lot of fishy business here that all punctual trains are not going to cover it. I do give them credits for doing their best until the release of these nuclear polluted water into the ocean.
This. IAEA spelled very clearly that their reports cannot be used as the basis for releasing the water. The samples they ran on were not collected on site but rather it was handed to them by the TEPCO. All the other testing results were released by TEPCO themselves with no third party verification and TEPCO has a history of lying to the public. Japan is also reportedly spending 70 billion YEN on propaganda efforts to convince the world that the water is safe. If it was truly safe, why would it need to do so? If it was truly dafe, why does Japan block other countries from testing the water themselves? Tritium is not the real concern to the Chinese and other neighboring country, it is the other stuff that is worrisome. Nobody know how well ALPN works or if it works at all.
Anyone with basic knowledge on nuclear science will know that not only does tritium have a short half life and occurs naturally, but also that the concentration that its released in is negligible. It should also be noted that its found in water discharged by most nuclear power plants anyway as its created by neutron bombardment of the cooling water in the reactor itself.
@@geraldkhoo88 lol what a non-argument, you wouldnt drink from your own sewer, yet it is allowed to be discharged. Almost like they treat water for a reason
@lethanhminh8001 , dude, even our own sewage will biodegrade within days, weeks or even month. Nuclear has decades half-life! Dude, go to school and stop feeding your family with your nonsense.
The most ironic thing is, that the plant was scheduled to be decommissioned like 1 or 2 months later or so, and if they had a policy to update their safety system to the latest standards, the backup power generator wouldn't have been in the basement and potentially not flooded and would have been able to prevent all of this, but ohh well...
yes that was idiotic having the emergency generators in the basement especially in a country subject to tsunami's. they did have a protection wall but it turned out the tsunami was bigger than anyone predicted so it went over the wall.
I really love your science-focused, no BS approach to stuff like this... since media and politicians like to play up this kind of stuff for political reasons.
And also, just mention that those water other countries realeased to the Ocean is NOT contaminated radioactive water, is TOTALLY different with Fukushima situation, those Contaminated radioactive water from Fukushima contains dozens radioactive elements can cause cancer.
I'm not eating fish caught near Japan. Let those who say it's ok eat it and drink the water they say is safe. All the discussion I am hearing is about Tritium. What are the levels of the other radioactive materials? Since China imports most of their seafood, the Japanese should invite their biggest customer to do the tests to their satisfaction.
Why? Since you evidently don't know that, the water has already been filtered to eliminate all other isotope troughs the ALPS system, international scientific and technical bodies have already said that is safe, plus China has in the past released tritiated water, don't confuse a geopolitical statement/positioning with concern they don't have any.
@@riky-gl8nl Does eliminate all other isotopes mean reduce to zero, to levels found in nature and what are the numbers and comparisons? If it is all that safe then why not recycle for industrial use or even drink it? I am distant enough not to care about the geopolitical stuff. Just saying cos I am not convinced although I am not anyone who needs to be.
You do understand that there is tritium in the water you drink and the food you eat anyway, right? Just because it is "naturally" occurring doesn't make it a different kind of tritium. And by the time it has mixed with all that ocean water, it is so diluted as to not much matter anyway. There is also naturally occurring background radiation all around you. When you fly in a plane you are exposed to more radiation than at the surface, since you are above much of the atmosphere that screens you. When you are near granite you get more radiation. As for the other radioactive materials, they were mentioned in the video as having been previously filtered out. But I guess you must have missed that part.
@@darkstar7999 Tritium in extremely rare in the earth's biosphere (10-18 tritium atoms per hydrogen atom vs deuterium 1 in 5000). It isn't stable and decays rapidly with a half life of 12.3 years. It is about 0.24 Bq/L... this is way lower than the radioactivity of 1500 Bq/L water that japan is dumping... and they are dumping 1.3 billion liters or 1.3 million tons of contaminated water. The problem is not the radioactivity of the water... it is the fact that tritium bio-accumulates. Life will concentrate all that tritium... up the food chain. And we humans sit at the top.
@@nickl5658 I am aware how rare Tritium is in Earth's biosphere. That half life of 12.3 years has a lot to do with that. But there is a LOT of water in the oceans. NOAA estimates 1,335,000,000 cubic kilometers, or 1.335E+21 liters. According to the CIA world fact book, the Pacific contains 669.88 million cu km, or 6.6988E+20 liters. You are talking about 1.3E+09 liters of contaminated water. That is 11orders of magnitude difference. I know I am supposed to be concerned about this but I am having problems summoning the concern. Also not sure how this bio-accumulates to the extent that the food chain is going to be affected. The biological half-life of tritium is 7-14 days. That is the time it takes for a living body to eliminate one half the quantity of an administered substance (as a radioisotope) through its normal channels of elimination. Bio-accumulation of Tritium is not a huge concern either.
There are 5 ways to deal with the situation (e.g. evaporation etc..). And they choose the cheapest and least safe method (discharging into the ocean). That, is hardly responsible and "doing their best".
You are aware that evaporation of trhe tritium simply moves it into the air, thence into rainfall? Is that better? Tritium is a component of the water; it is not a dissolved contaminant.
@@Mikupigeon Another misinformation. Other countries dispose water from a normal working reactor. Nobody has any issue with fukushima discharge when it was operating normally. What they are discharging now is contaminated water that contacted a meltdown reactor, not normal waste water, and no country has ever discharge contaminated water this way. Even Russia buried the nuclear waste instead of flushing it into the sea.
@@puncheex2 The issue is not tritium. The focus on tritium is a distraction as part of the Japanese misinformation campaign. The issue is the other substances that cannot be easily removed. With evaporation, the compacted residue that remains can be safety buried and kept out of reach. Didn't the IAEA already said that level of tritium is not a concern?
@@testusersg tritium is the only thing left in the water after the multi step filtering process. every other contaminant gets removed befor the water is even close to being released.
Why won’t Japan allow other countries to inspect and test the water? Personal I won’t believe there is no impact to the environment. This is such a serious matter that more countries should be involved in the inspection and testing to ensure all discharged water are indeed meeting safety standard. For now Japan is hiding something.
@@rhipsalis alright，you are Japanese. That's the reason why you say that，but I've seen the fisherman in Japan who protest the Japan government without any sense of responsibility
My understanding is the concerns from the rest of the world are exactly the concerns that you outlined at the end. Japan has not published how well the other 62 elements have been filtered and just say the element left is Trillium. IAEA conclusions in their statements are based on Japan's info and not any independent measurements? It is very suspicious claim that the other 62 elements are completely eliminate without any measured and verified numbers.
Though it is not up to the Japanese government, and I think it would also be helpful to uncover the frauds, bribes and corruptions that are parallel to this event. Like the million euro “donation” to the IAEA?
This is extremely toxic nuclear contaminated water !!! What Japan emits is that after the 311 accident, the furnace core exploded, the nuclear furnace material leaked, and the water that came into direct contact with the furnace core was left to this day because of the toxicity, and then now they say that they will prepare to be discharged into the sea in 30 years, which is the largest marine pollution incident in modern history. Normal general nuclear power plants discharge cooling water from the hull of the body, and there is no leakage of nuclear substances.
Curious about the comment of not knowing the tsunami and earthquake would happen. They did know. There were reports done showing the risks (emergency generators located in the wrong position, doors not capable of withstanding water ingress) but TEPCO and the Japanese government ignored the reports, and they got sued for it. I agree, nuclear power is pretty safe and clean… as long as people don’t cut corners on safety because whilst the chances are low, the price is extremely high.
I agree with you. The biggest problem I have with nuclear energy is the waste. This is something we just haven't figured out yet. The problem is we can't quench or stop nuclear decay reactions (heck, we can't even predict when a particular atom in a sample will decay) and some of them go on forever (figuratively speaking, of course). It all just feels irresponsible to do something today that'll bind almost all future generations to an unsolicited obligation to care for and maintain nuclear waste sites long after we're all gone, don't you?
@@Israel_Two_Bit We HAVE solved the technical problems with nuclear waste disposal. We solved them a long time ago. We haven't solved the POLITICAL problem. Most people don't understand radiation, so they are afraid of it, and they don't want anything to be done with the waste. They probably think that radioactive waste is a glowing green goop, because that's what they saw on The Simpsons. In fact the typical form is a dry, glassified solid. It doesn't leak or flow. It's like a rock. You say we can't even predict when a particular atom in a sample will decay, but this is pointless. We can predict with EXTREME accuracy how quickly the entire sample will decay, and that is what we care about. No one cares about single atoms.
As the spokesman of China Ministry of Foreign Affairs says, if the water is safe, it will be unnecessary to put it into the ocean, it can be used for constructions and agriculture; Meanwhile, if it's harmful, then it shouldn't be put into the ocean.
The planet is dying,so much science only for destruction when you can't control the after effects. Go get the ore you got the substance out from and try to encase that liquid with it in solid rock and bury it again
Because it's salt water from tsunami and human can't drink salt water. In the end Japanese will use this water for daily life, because most rain come from the sea
Actually, in the video, he literally said that the radiation level in the water is less than the amount currently permissible in our drinking water. Thus, were this fresh water and not salt water then indeed - you would be able to drink it without issue. PROVIDED, as he stated, that all the other elements have been in fact, filtered out.
@@darkstar7999 the Japanese company Tepco has a history of lying , that is their pattern of behavior, whatever Tepco reported I would believe the opposite is true
Japan issue 2 news in August : 1) Japan dumping Fukushima water into the Sea. 2) Japan facing water shortage, an excerpt from their Asahi Shimbun new : In Fukushima Prefecture, the supply of water to farms from a dam in Yabuki was stopped on Aug. 18 because the water level had dropped to 16.4 percent of capacity. Residents of the greater Tokyo metropolitan area may be forced to brace for the first water rationing in seven years due to the lack of water at nine dams along the Tonegawa river system. Japan claimed that their ALPS..whatever water is so safe that you can drink it. Why doesnt they use the fukushima water ON THEIR fukushima rice farm???? its a win-win for them right? Instead they choose to dump the water, and face water shortage, a lose-lose situation. So WHY?
@@zhuanzhenfan extremely costly plus there is not even a point of doing that. No one pump water from downstream to upstream, and even if they jump through all of these hurdles, it will take forever to get rid of all of the water. They need the space for decommisioning.
The water is so clean you could drink it, they should have just "Dumped" it without any fanfare. People are so stupid and it's getting worse every year.
Still waiting for the executives and government "oversight" committee are brought up on charges and be held accountable for there incompetence and actions follow up to and after the accident. I'd go so far as requiring being banned from working in such industries nor holding management positions for the rest of their life. I'd go so far as legal action with life in prison and or summary execution. Politicians and "leaders" of the exploiter class must be held account.
Just a simple question, why Japan government disallow any 3rd party independant testing of the nuclear water release? other countries like South Korea have requested for independant testing of the water release water periodically by them, but Japan government ban all such request. Even IAEA were not allowed to sample the tested water, it's the Japan government providing the sample water.
They can use it their drinking water istead of wasting to ocean . This youtuber also drink hukusima wasted water every day in frint of his video at least one year . Than he will have right condition to say it is safe !!
I would in a heartbeat (after having personally seen the treatment plant and the chemical analysis process on the particular sample I was about to drink, plus confirmation of the results from an independent third-party laboratory and maybe even doing some chemical analysis myself, lol). Oh, no, scratch all that, I just remembered that the water they're releasing is diluted with seawater, so it'll be salty. Maybe I'd cook a good pasta with it instead.
But would I move to Fukushima for a year and drink it every day? Not that easy to answer, I'm afraid. Perhaps after doing a deep dive into how the other isotopes bioaccumulate, at what concentrations, and for how long. I trust in science and if I see no reason to worry, I won't worry, so I would do it. But I would surely do a very thorough investigation first.
This, Chernobyl, five mile island and the well published poor build quality of some French reactors, is the reason I’m totally against them. There are better safer ways to produce electricity. Those who say otherwise take a look at how long and at what cost when thing’s go wrong does it take to make these sites and the spent fuel safe. I think It’s total madness we’re playing a very deadly game.
Define "safer". Nuclear has by far the lowest deaths per kWh produced of any energy source we've come up with so far. Nearly 4x lower than the next on the list (solar) and 11x lower than the one after that (wind). The problem isn't that nuclear is unsafe. The problem is that when it does go wrong, its big and flashy and generates lots of headlines which drives unjustified fear in both the public and the politicians who have to answer to the public. Well that's only half the problem I guess. The other half is that we were running plants with a 40 year designed lifespan well into their 6th and even 7th decade. Its possible - perhaps likely - that we would have seen more disasters if Fukushima hadn't triggered countries around the world to start decommissioning their ancient reactors. But its still highly disappointing that they were replaced with far more dangerous fuel sources like coal (~2500x more deadly than nuclear) and even natural gas (~100x more deadly). Sources that are also destroying the environment which will ultimately make them _millions_ of times more dangerous.
You sound like the people that condemned James Watt's steam engine when the boilers blew up (see SS> Sultana, for example). Generating energy is never risk free, and you are using just as muchas everyone else around you. Time to carry the load a little.
13:00 Yeah but its 15x higher than the EU standard. But lets not count that, right? Because the most strict standard cant be based on science and safety, right? We should only count the average most lax standard, of the WHO, who did a "great" job with the pandemic...
So they’ve filtered out 62 out of 63 isotopes. What do they now do with the filters that contain all of the 62 bad things that are now stuck in the filters?
They will seperate them, and replace the filters regularly. Then it will be formed into a solid and placed in a barrel in a nuclear storage facility most likely
According to the last NRC report thay can't get at the filters it's death to be in area of the alps plants for more than a minute. Less, I imagine being around an exposed filter cartridge.
Im from germany and I like your videos very much. So FUkushima had a tremendous impact on germany, we quit (!) nuclear power plants because of it ! It was announced by A.Merkel since the accident and took place over the years, the last 3 powerplants remaining where finally shut down this year. So everyone should concern about fukushima? Well, my personal believe is that Godzilla is rising soon, in approx. 10-20 years there are 3 eyed fish and 11 legs crabs, and then one night, it came to land and destroyed complete Tokyo :-.))))
1/7th the quantity of Tritium from what the WHO says is safe in drinking water… but the WHO messed up with Corona & is having some difficulty with determining the difference between a boy & girl
So let’s say they drink it. It’s not like plastic where it stays in the body and accumulates, it passes through because it’s just another form of water. And where does the treated human waste water go? Back to the ocean anyways.
Google Chinese N-plants Releasing Water Containing Tritium at Levels 6.5 Times Higher than Planned Fukushima Discharge Or maybe try any search related to tritium and power plants. I believe France is the worst "offender" for release, but they're also not complaining and blowing up about this non issue, so aren't hypocrites.
The theories are fine. The question is why they don't allow others to test the water and monitor if the water is so free of other elements? That is the first biggest concern. Also, if there are better ways to dispose of the water, but cost is higher, why not do that to err to the safe side, but rather spending much more in PR? Since there were so many scandals on falsifications in their industries, why would you have so much trust at the "Japanese competence"? It is this unknown that is scary.
@@slittle3527 From many sources. But you may not give credence to them since mostly from Asia, so are you aware of ANYONE were allowed to directly test the water in the tanks that are supposedly "treated", and with all other radioactive elements removed, but only low level of tritium is left? By the way, the fact they are just talking about tritium is a deceptive trick. All other cooling water from normally operating reactors contain tritium, and indeed even higher than what Japan said about the water they are releasing (I don't know how that is possible since this water directly contacted the melted core, unlike normal cooling water). They purposely play up the tritium question to mislead so people will compare its polluted water with other regular cooling water.
@@Whitfield369 Did you really read the news? Mostly from Asia? IAEA is an internationally creditable association, their specialists are from all over the world, where did you read their specialists are mostly from Asia? Did you really know what you are commenting without a proper knowledge? Focused on tritium ? Because tritium is the only detectable radioactive substance in the releasing water for now. Go back and do a little more reading before showing your ignorance, sigh.
@@slittle3527 Yes IAEA is supposed to be like what you said, but apparently they are not living up to that standard. You probably heard that China just stopped to pay their due of $60 million (before you scream, U.S. owes over $70 million), unless they invite the neighboring nations to participate in the monitoring process. The IAEA claimed they invited China before but China declined. That is quite bizarre because they could have easily present the evidence from China's declining of the invitation. My "Asian" sources I mentioned were from the Taiwan media, where NO ONE from Asia was consulted on this, other than getting support from the U.S. They just finally agreed to allow the Koreans to visit once a week under pressure from some Korean opposition politicians (the ruling party is totally silent under the U.S. pressure to be friendly with Japan). Now maybe it is time for you to do some more reading?
Regarding Ricky's concern about the possible release of other non-tritium substances, he answered the question: constant monitoring and testing. It would be easy to install online detectors; in addition, the water effluent should be sampled regularly and analyzed. The results must be documented and checked by internal and external reviewers. External investigators should be allowed to make random visits and analyze the water being released.
TEPCO and the Japanese government are committed to protecting a safe environment. Please consider why TEPCO built a large number of tanks. If TEPCO were an irresponsible company, they would not have built the tanks and would have dumped them into the sea untreated, just as the Russians did. TEPCO and the Japanese government have been in close contact with the IAEA to ensure transparency in their handling of the accident, and the IAEA has approved the discharge of treated water as a reasonable and common method of disposal.
It is not released by Japan alone, but released while inspecting together with the IAEA and South Korea. The IAEA and South Korea are monitoring together with Japan until all the releases are over. Facilities and information are open to the public. South Korea was against it at first, but after sending an investigation team, it was in favor of the release. The test results, how to process ALPS, etc. are all published on the Internet. If you blame Japan, why don't you blame the United States, Europe,South Korea, and the IAEA, which are in favor of it? Both the United States and the IAEA say it's safe. The only ones who oppose it are China and North Korea, and they don't investigate or discuss.
You didn't ask the most fundamental question: There are other methods to treat the radioactive water, why Japan government insists to choose the cheapest way, i.e. dumping it to the ocean?
There is no treatment. They tried filters. The filters got so radioactive no one can service them. They thought to boil it off. But everyone knows what happened at Three Mile Island 😵💫☢️😓🤡
Anyone aware Japan spent 4.8 billion USD on PR fees over just the waste water incident? Where do you think the money went? I’m not believing or not believing any journalists or scientists online or offline per say. Of course I’m Chinese so this is also personal to me. Historically speaking the Japanese people are capable of any horrific action.
The only way anyone would agree to releasing the radioactive water is if every single tank is tested and all 62 of the other radioactive elements that are not tritium are completely removed. Only then can the tank be released if the level of tritium is about the same level as is released by the average nuclear power plant.
Please use the correct terminology. It's NOT "wastewater", but contaminated water!. "Wastewater" from normal powerplants do not contain the 64 different types of radioactive contaminants that are ONLY found in the Fukushima contaminated water from the Level 7 meltdown, the same level as Chernobyl was in the USSR. By not using the correct terminology, you give apologists the chance to draw false equivalence between Fukushima and other powerplants around the world, which is what the apologists have been trying to do!
the data u showed about the releasted water is wrong. U didn't distinguish between nuclear wastewater and nuclear radioactive wastewater. the data is about nuclear wastewater not nuclear radioactive wastewater.
i think you give too much credit to Japanese engineering. Fukushima wasn't Japan's first nuclear plant accident. and that wasn't Japan's first tsunami either. they had every reason to do things better in the first place. as for "running out of storage space" - the capacity was a decision, not an absolute limit. they could add more capacity if they wanted to. but it's more convenient for them to ignore that option.
You see, here is the thing: If the water is so safe, Japan must as well keep it for national use rather than sharing it with the world. All problems are solved!
@@ujiltromm7358 WHat fear mongering? I merely point out that a field of tankage, jamming the countryside around the plant, comes at a great expense just for the joy of storing the equivalent of rainwater. It appears that sarah is being a little sarcastic in her answer and I applaud that, but I've seen this argument before in earnest.
ALPS removes 62 of the 63 radioactive elements from the contaminated water. How? And where do those radioactive materials removed from the liquid go? If it’s trapped in some filter, what is done with those filters once full? Where do they store that?
Japan’s ‘Four Big Pollution Diseases’, based on past precedents, they will never admit mistake until the death issue resulted by pollution can't cover up anymore
Instead of up setting or make neighbour country worry. Why don't make a water bottle drink for japanese people to drink. This will solve the problem if so safe to drink as you say.
It's a well though out plan, and the science is solid. The problem is when problems occur, the backup plan is less than ideal. How else do you explain fish caught in the area with high levels of radiation even when nothing was supposed to have been released?
The problem is that the waste water from other nuclear reactors has not come into contact with the radiation, but Japan’s has come into contact with the radiation, and the scary thing is that the water has come into contact with the nuclear reactor core. And by the way Korea is hoarding sea salt not China
What do you mean? (i'm serius i'm not sure i have understood completely your comment) by the way both South Korea and China have in the past realesed radiation (triatiated water) in the ocean following the standard operating procedure and making sure it was done safely, all of this got a lot more attention that what was really necessary.
@@riky-gl8nl The Japanese government is using tritium as a distraction from the real issue, which is the other elements. Some of which is highly toxic (but not radioactive). Fukushima is has been releasing normal nuclear waste water into the ocean during its normal operation (like what other countries did, the "norm") and nobody has any issues with it. But the contaminated water from the meltdown is NOT the same as normal waste water from a functioning plant. The contaminated water has come into contact with the core, and has much more dangerous substances than tritium. Their filtering system has been having issues and the Japanese government is hiding a lot of things. Basically, it is questinable if their ALPS can actually remove all the other substances, and THAT, is the issue. If Japan is confident that the filtered water is safe, why they don't dare to invite scientist from China, Korean and other neighbouring countries to go to the site and inspect the water? That says a lot isn't it? If it is safe like they claimed, let others check. Also, the IAEA only test like less than 1 % of the water, and they only test what the Japanese government ask them to test. That is hardly credible nor assuring. This channel is not telling the whole story.
@@testusersg that's not true other elements are filtered out using ALPS system (both radioactive and non radioactive) not even salt remains after the passage in the system (it's literally distilled water, but since there is still tritium, that can't be easily separated by water since it form HTO it's then diluted with sea water. Besides inspectors from China and South Korea can visit and inspect all the samples they want, South Korean governments have also acknowledged and approved the plan of the IAEA. Also AIEA tests all the water if you would have bothered to check their website for information, there is also a real time schematic that shows the reading of the instrumentation, not to say that IAEA establish a permanent base in Fukushima with inspector that will remain there until complete decommissioning of the whole plant is achieved.
@@riky-gl8nl Many experts are questioning the reliability of the ALPS, including Japanese scientists. Tritium is the least of the concerns actually. It's being used as distraction by the Japanese government. If the ALPS is working then yes, the water is considered clean. But question is many countries do not trust the reliability of the ALPS and for it to be working the filter must be changed after a period of use. The Japanese government didn't give details about the maintenance of the ALPS, how often they change the filter etc. As in any filteration system, the effectiveness will degrade after the residues accumulate. They need to be more transparent. IAEA only tests about 2 tons out of the 1000 tons of contaminated water.
1. It is a deliberate scheme to try to get attention to focus on Tritium rather than the 62 radioactive substances. We know the normal operating nuclear plants in UK, France, Canada generate far more Tritium than the plants in Japan/China/Korea. 2. The main concern is the other 62 radioactive substances that are supposed to be removed by ALPS, but are really completely removed? Over the course of 30 years?.The long term effectiveness and robustness has been a big concern. Afterall, even after filtering by ALPS, TEPCO ack that 70% of the tanks still contain radioactive substances above limits! So they need to use multi stage ALPS. 3. Another concern is the regulatotey limit of 62 radioactive substances: were they set for 30 years exposure? Did they do the study with aggregate of these 62 substances? Were limits designed for human? How about the long term exposure effect of much smaller marine lives such as shrimps, crabs, planktons? 4. Tokey Electric TEPCO has shown to be less than a trustworthy company, as they have been found omission or delays in reporting. The company executives were found guilty to be responsible for the nuclear disaster by A Tokyo Court in 2022. In fact, one of the biggest failing of TEPCO was: they were warnwd to build sea walls to handle a tsunami wave of 15m, and they didn't. 5. Lastly, the current real time monitoring of data is provided by TEPCO and consist of only measurement of Tritium concentration but not the other 62 radioactive substance. They only use a gross radioactive counter to.meadure the aggregate radioactive without individual breakdowns. They are also not measuring toxic but non radioactive substances that are present in the tanks.
what TEPCO has admitted is that approximately 66% of the approximately 1.34 million tons of water in storage, before being released, exceeded the standards(2018). There are two reasons for this. The first is that when ALPS first started operating, its purification performance was inferior to that of today. Second, since a large amount of contaminated water was being generated compared to the current situation, people were working to reduce radiation risks as quickly as possible by focusing on meeting "regulatory standards for on-site storage". And then, in December 2020, TEPCO announced that they were treated again using ALPS, and that nuclides other than tritium were purified to below the "regulatory standards for releasing them into the environment" without any problems.
According to the Japanese government, most of the nuclides other than tritium in all ALPS treated water before dilution are below the limits that can be detected by machines. There is a possibility that cesium 134/137, cobalt 60, ruthenium 106, antimony 125, strontium 90, iodine 129, technetium 99, carbon 14, etc. may be detected, but these will be reduced to less than 1/100 of the regulatory standard value.
Fukushima was its own enemy, the backup generators were supose to be on a nearby hill but in order to save cost they put them in water tight buildings on site. the contractor forgot to plug the conduit into the building. when the water rose the building flooded. and you know the rest of the story.
@@katiegreene3960 every county has a nuclear agency.... for the US its the NRC lookup Radioactive Effluent and Environmental Reports for Diablo Canyon 1 & 2
If japan was so on top of their game why didn't they have the back-up generators up on the hill and not right next to the plants? It's one to the most seismic areas in the world. Japan is not the only ones that are going to have to deal with this the WORLD is going to have to deal with this pretty much forever! You give these $h!+heads too much credit.
Well, "Japan" didn't build it. A company built it. And from what I have read elsewhere, they cut a few corners. Like companies (and people) do the world over.
@@knyurla Actually, I don't think I have had to pay anything. Folks in Japan have had to pay something. I would hope their government has taken that company to task and that particular string of mistakes doesn't happen again in the future.
1000 L tank is not japan best effort, Jpan is so proud and promoting their G-cans project can keep 12 million cubic meter, mean they can keep those contaminated water 12 million tons ( where now is 1.3 million tons ) think again if Japan is so great and did their best .... stop telling me Japan is good ... dont forget in WW2 how cruel can Japan be
They could have just drilled into Mt Fuji to heat up water, but nuclear power plants with underground back up diesel cooling generators on a coast prone to tsunami , is a disaster guaranteed.
You also emphasize too much trust on Japan, I would rather observe what they do and judge from that rather than trusting a word "Japan". There are stories about Japan made airbag components responsible for dozens of lives lost in the past. Let's put our faith on human's deed not on their name.
You mentioned japan shut down most of its nuclear power plants. They did this to check if everything's secure. They restarted 20% and are planning to power on more than 60% in the nearby future
I hope you research more into this situation. According to Robert Richmond who is a research professor at the University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology (SOEST) and director of the Kewalo Marine Laboratory: “At this point, we’re unanimous in saying we don’t see enough information to support dumping the radioactively contaminated water into the ocean,” said Richmond, who has conducted marine conservation research in the Pacific for more than four decades. “Our first recommendation is to take that option off the table for now.”
Because it's sea water so if you dump it in a lake or something else will kill flora and fauna, besides if you put it in a river where is the river going? Yep to the ocean so why bother?
Don't believe you. Tritium is a very expensive, rare and precious resource (30'000$ per Gramm !!!). Why would the Japanese just throw this away? Also Tritium is not that dangerous. You can drink it. As with everything of course the dose makes the poison... Your story is weird on many levels.
It’s expensive because there are two ways of making it (1) Separating it from water (2) Bombabrding lithium with neutrons the separation is far more expensive that the lithium method because even directly out of a reactor, the tritium is so diluted with other water that you yield only minuscule amounts. It’s chemical and physical properties are the same as water so it basically only leaves centrifuge as an option, but given the tiny yield, massive amounts of power and time would be required.
"hard to predict that an earthquake and a tsunami would happen together" Facepalm All they had to do was study Japanese history. Of course that's not nearly as bad as the power emergency down here in Texas which was caused mainly by too much of our power production infrastructure not being winterized. We even had a reactor go down for "cold weather related issues" as the turbines & generators for both nuclear power plants in the state are out in the open. We had a freeze almost as bad that knocked out some power back in 2011 and other bad freezes back in '89 and '83 so they can't in good faith claim that hard freezes don't happen.
It's not the event by itself, it was the 4th strongest earthquake in recorded human history and while there were defences in place, they weren't prepared for such a scenario, what I like about the nuclear industry as much as the aircraft industry is that every incident is used to learn and prevent such incidents from happening again.
What they could not have predicted was the intensity of the earthquake/tsunami. Fukushima had been warned that the backup systems could be flooded in the event of a tsunami but they thought a tsunami of that magnitude was very improbable
Dude, the normal cooling water release by other nuclear power plant doesn't make any contact with the uranium core. They are separated by a very thick protective casing. Whilst Fukushima uranium core has melt down it's protective casing. They are using the sea water to flush it, hoping that it wouldn't melt it way down to the Japan's underground water. If it's really safe, they would have use it domestically. Dumping in ocean would have the irreversible impact to the global environment. More people n animals will die of cancer. No matter what excuses they have, they shouldn't drag the whole world into this. It's not our responsibility to carry the mistake they made.
According to Taiwanese media reports, The discharge of treated water from Fukushima triggered a heightened interest in radiation among the Chinese. Sales of Geiger counters are increasing, and people are reporting their home radiation measurements on Weibo. When a man living in Shanghai measured the radiation level in his home, it was 976 times higher than in Tokyo. China's 'soy pulp' construction is famous, but are the housing construction materials safe? Isn't sand near nuclear test sites being used to make concrete cheaply? People who buy real estate in China should measure it with a Geiger counter before buying. Take care of your health and life. 🙏
What is happening with the other 62 chemicals being filtered ?, what are the chances of another Tsunami hitting the plant over the time it takes to decommission it taking them back to square one ?
If the water is that safe, why pouring it into the ocean? Why not use it to irrigate the field? Why the independent water check initiated by Korean, China and Russia is rejected by Japan?
Water is not a particularly valuable commodity, and Japan isn't really deficit of it. This really isn't much water we're talking about, probably less than a day's worth of water consumption for the whole country.
Japan should release into its own farmland and into the iac to show the international community all is safe Also i believe the nuclear reactor is made by GE, so GE should also take blame for its design.
It's these 62 other isotopes and elements that are the worry. How much of these are released? The toxicities and the accumulation in the food chains might be a risk for marine life and people eating seafood. TEPCO seems very focused on tritium, but what about all these other elements? They are an unknown, and a reason for China and others to be sceptical about seafood from Japan.
Other radioisotopes have been chemically separated from the wastewater. The Tritium cannot be entirely removed because it is chemically identical to water.
Is the water Japan discharges into the sea safe? No one can decide now, it will take time to obtain evidence. What you need to decide as an ordinary person is whether it is worth risking the health of yourself and your family to eat Japanese seafood now?
They could instead use the contaminated water to make concrete. There is a proposal that has been put out as an alternative that is being ignored. If put in concrete the tritium could decay while trapped and fall to safe levels by the time the concrete fails. It could use up the water in 5 years rather than 30 years. None of it would get into the food supply. The concrete could be used on site for containment purpose. The concrete would be safe to be around since the radiation from tritium does not penetrate the skin.
A good idea, but we would have to sample the concrete before any machining / demolition that creates dust. Breathing in the dust of such a concrete would be more hazardous due to the tritium. And it would emit beta radiation from its surface and beta radiation DOES penetrate skin (it is alpha radiation that can be stopped by a sheet of paper, beta can penetrate the skin and cause damage).
@@mikefochtman7164 The half life of tritium is only 12 years. Concrete structure will be fine for like 100 years which is 8~ half lives which means only around 0.4% of the tritium will be around by then. And since it is concrete it will be in one place where you can test it and contain it if need be unlike dumping it into the ocean.
@@username65585 Yeah but who would buy such concrete, I mean we know it's safe but for most people even earing the world radiation cause panic. Also the release in the ocean is stricly controlled and level of radiation are consistently under 300 Bq/L (Maximun limit 1500 Bq/L) that is still well under the 10000 Bq/L the OMS consider safe for drinking water.
But nobody died. Japan needs nuclear, Fukushima was an old design (but still far better than Chernobyl, which is why radiation levels are normal in the city). Wind and solar will not do it, we need a lot of new nuclear reactors asap.
They use it in watches, gun sights, emergency lights. France produces 500x more and dumps it into the English Channel every year as waste… so yeah even when it’s free there still isn’t strong demand
Tritium has its uses, but the problem is how to separate it from the 'ordinary' water. Chemically they act identically so there is no chemical way to do that. Break down the water to H2 and O2, and feed the H2 into some sort of centrifuge could be tried, but it's very difficult/ expensive.
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,,, based on sea current Tritium concentrate 3 times that of Japan and 40 times of Shanghai will arrive in San Diego USA approx in 3 years time.
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You failed to mention in your video about the corrupt apathy of tepco in addressing issues which were warned about multiple times prior to the tsunami incident. You glossed over the inadequately designed backup power generators which were badly positioned and vulnerable to flooding. This entire crisis could have been avoided had tepco been more diligent, rather than ignoring a problem for literally decades. I have no trust in the transparency of tepco whatsoever.
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so the one south of miami and near fort pierce has been proven leaking isotopes.. for years... salt plumes build up, and florida rock allows flow of water so its in miami waters.. i lived five miles away as a child near miami. this topic i taught on aboutsPage for nine years now... way before this guy, sadly
bet it hid my mindblowing report from miami on this same topic at the one named... turkeyPoint plant... ☝️
So turkey point aka the plant in south miami area... is and proven leaking... its in nytimes also and miamiherald.. pro tips i got long ago.. the channel dug into the coral south of miami to that plant is not allowed to be scuba but the lobster there half mile east of the plant are hugely massive oversized.. 😮 so they say
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Giant moth reported outside Tokyo.. 😂😂😂
Problem is when other countries asked to go to Fukushima to investigate and collect samples to test themselves, Japan denied access. The test data provided by IAETA (or whatever the organization is called) did not collect the samples themselves. They were provided by TEPCO. TEPCO has a history of coverups, corruption and altered data to suit their needs. Also, the ALPS has had numerous failure to date. Furthermore, they claimed that the filtered water is safe to drink, why not keep it and use it themselves? Tokyo has been experiencing water shortages lately.
Over half of Japanese in Japan in a poll showed that they are either concerned or don’t think the water should be dumped to the sea. With neighboring countries voicing against it. The Japanese govt, to be a good neighbor and listens to its citizens should reconsider.
One more thing, the international report stated that within the organization, not everyone agreed to dumping it. The organization also stated clearly that if Sh!t hits the fan, they are not responsible for this report. The organization did not consider other ways to get rid of the water. Japan had other options to get rid of the waste water, this is the cheapest way.
That’s interesting, I wasn’t aware of that; do you have a link on it?
I agree that it’s a serious concern if they aren’t allowing independent monitoring; not a good look is true :-/
@@DEtchellslol there is literally nothing they can do if people want to take seawater for independent testing
@@lethanhminh8001 That’s obviously true of seawater, so you could monitor water off the coast from the discharge, but it would be difficult to detect small amounts of radionucleotides once the water is released into the ocean. TEPCO and the Japanese government controls access to what’s in the tanks though :-/
(You could presumably find the location of the discharge pipes themselves and sample there, but I’m sure access to the discharge points is restricted by the government “for public safety”, so you probably couldn’t just stick a sampling hose up into the discharge pipe.)
I love how none of the CCP shills can even recall what the IAEA's name is. How anyone can take this kind of shit seriously is beyond my understanding, but I suppose humans are just naturally naive and easily mislead.
TEPCO stock ( a dead company) has up 15 % since June. Someone is making $$ from this tragedy. Watch they decide to short this stock, maybe Japan will stop dumping the toxin.
As an engineer, you KNOW you can never filter 100% of the contaminants in ANYTHING, only to some degree with some level of accuracy and precision.
The headache is biology... tritium bioaccumulates. Life will concentrate the stuff and send it up the food chain. Even though it is very dilute, there is so much... it could be a problem.
@@nickl5658 it doesn’t bioaccumulate. In order to bioaccumulate, it has to have different chemical properties than the ordinary water. But it is not.
Like water, it passes out pretty soon. Tritium behaves just like ordinary water in the body, distributing equally throughout the body’s water and excreted in the same ways as water, such as in the forms of urine and sweat
Evidence that it doesn’t is the English Channel. For decades France has been dumping 500x more tritium from just one plant , yet no concentration, increased cancers or birth defects in the region.
@@nickl5658 per the IAEA: "Tritiated water cannot bio-accumulate in the environment. However, it is not clear whether or not this is the case for OBT. Even though organically bound tritium can be detected in terrestrial biological materials, aquatic biological materials and soil samples, its behaviour is still in question."
@@managementreply5151 Japan enjoyed the benefit of nuclear power yet now people from other countries need to share the price and risk of the polluted water
@@vincenttwong317It's almost like the Chinese don't dump a volume of chemical waste into their rivers that outdoes anything ever released by Fukushima. Oh wait... 😂
After enjoyed your ridiculous video I’d really like to say thank you for the detailed explanation. I understood the safety of the Fukushima water and the Japanese credit, but after all, why don’t the Japanese use the Fukushima water themselves? Drinking , Washing , Swimming, Planting or even wetting their roads. Thousands of usages for that “Clean Safe Water” were refused by the Japanese government with credit, now they insisted to give the Pacific a cup of drink, even willing to stand against the surrounding countries for this, and set a special Crisis PR budget of USD 500 million……
Absolutely agree! If it's so safe as they'd claimed it to be, why don't they use it as recycled water to flush the toilets, water the plants, feed their pets, etc..
The data was never credible to begin with. Garbage in Garbage out.
@Orenoyomeeee I have a question for you then why did Green Peace Japan on their website saying the report they received from the Japanese government the tritium level is not 22 claimed here but 860, considering the Japanese government was not honest in declaring a lot of area surrounding Fukushima were safe for people to reside but the radiation level measured by some local far exceed the normal level, we can also look at a company behind the accident TEPCO, a company that is know for corporate dishonesty. It lied about 200 times to Japanese government over safety concerns in 1977-2002, it was also admitting to submit falsified data to the government.
The table at 4:10 is very deceiving. The water released from the 5 nuclear power plants other than Fukushima, any of them have been in direct contact with a melted thru core of the nuclear reactor? To the best of my knowledge, none of these 5 plants have ever experience any melted thru core nuclear accident. The only two similar nuclear accidents I can think of were Chernobyl and Three Mile Island. If you want an apple-to-apple comparison, compare the ocean release of contaminated water from Chernobyl and/or from Three Mile Island. Well, you cannot. The Soviets (Russian and Ukranian) and the Americans at least have the decency to address their nuclear accident internally, without polluting the ocean, which in fact is to export their problem to the whole planet and entire mankind.
If Fumio Kishida and Tokyo Electric truly believe what they are telling the whole world, that is, the water from those storage tanks in Fukushima is absolutely safe, why don't they release the water into the rivers and reservoirs near Tokyo so they themselves can prove their claim.
If its safe.. The Japanese should use it to fill their swimming pool n industrial usage
Yeah why don’t they use that water for industrial purposes instead of releasing it into the ocean 🌊? Hmmmmm
If the water is safe enough as Japan said, why they dump it to the ocean? They can use it for agriculture or industrial water. Think about it.
If you had thought about it, you would have found out that it's saltwater
Great idea! So how are we going to move the tons of SALT water out of Fukushima to people that want to use the SALT water for agriculture and industrial use? Are you gonna build a massive pipeline km's long for the Japanese people?
@@kantaim4195 most of the ideas these guys thought of are 100 times more crazy than the actual solution
The IPCC is already whining about rice. Use the water for that
If the ALPS is so good and the treated waste water is so safe, then why do we have to discharge the same into the ocean. I mean, Japan could have simply recylced the waste water into its navigational system or drinking water systems for domestic consumption within its homeland. I am sure we can find a scientific answer to this if someone independent of TEPCO or Japan were given a chance to verify the quality of the discharged water??
Did you drink seawater?
@@slittle3527 Chances are you are also drinking seawater (of course, I meant seawater after treatment in desalination plants), but you may not know about it. As a matter of fact, countries using desalination facilities including China, India, Germany, and the USA (for its more arid states like Arizona), city-states like Singapore and Hongkong, Middle East and Africa countries (Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Algeria), as well as island states like Malta and Maldives.
@@VL-inquisitor Do you really know what are you talking about? Desalination do not equal to completely separating salt from water, the concentrated saline still required to be released back to the sea. And after ALPS treatment there's only tritium in the wastewater, which already combined with hydrogen and become water. That's saying even Japan go desalination and reuse the wastewater, since tritium is incapable to be biologically accumulated, they will eventually passed back to the ocean in domestic sewage and natural evaporation after a few days at most. So you are suggesting people to ignore the science and waste tons of energy for what purposes?
@@slittle3527 I know exactly what I was talking about. I merely answered your question whether people drink seawater. It was you who tried to confused subjects (nuclear waste water vs seawater, desalination vs ALPS). And it was you who tried to put words into my month. I never said or suggested people to ignore science
@@VL-inquisitor LOL, it's obviously you are covering up your intentions, it's you in the original comment saying Japan should recycled and using SEAWATER for their domestic use, then challenged by "why don't you drink seawater as well". After that you replied with a half-baked solution "desalination", and being pointed out that desalination makes no differences from discharging them into the sea.
Incapable to make things up anymore, so trying to confuse people from the subject ?
When the power plant was in function, it only benefited Japan, so why now people from other countries have to share the cost and risk of dumping the contaminated water into the sea?
Is China not dumping it into the sea too?
@@Pepe-dq2ib But other nations in the Pacific region DO NOT.
@@vincenttwong317 every country with nuclear power does, stop lying. Your country, China being the worst and God knows what type of radioactive waste comes out of North Korea.
Btw, they dunt have to dump those water into Pacific, they have optuons, they just do not want to use otger options since other options a little bit more expensive😂, so they decide to let the earth to pay the bill and make everyone on the earth tobpay for their mistake
Your H2O graphic at ~1:48 is backwards. Should be two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen, not vice versa.
😅No, that's just a hydrogen atom forming a hydrogen bond between two water molecules, it's just that we didn't show the rest of the hydrogen atoms on the two water molecules, LOL
@@Israel_Two_Bit Sure, keep telling that yourself :P
And for some reason the hydrogen looks larger than the oxygens. Maybe driven by the (mistaken) idea that Tritium is 3x Hydrogen?
safe to drink pls keep in Japan and use in domestic usage
In another debate, the Japanese defender refused to say if he would eat the fishes or drink the water in the region, instead, he distracted the attention to the PR as a ploy of the Chinese Communist party. That doesn't make me or people in that region, especially their neighbours, feel comfortable eating fish caught there. Hence, the Chinese and the Korean have the right to be concerned. Had we, Canadians, know about our own discharges, we would be up in arms about that. Geographically, we are far away from other countries and have large bodies of water. Asia doesn't. The report had not in any way approved its safety but Japan picked the words to support its case. It's easy for us from afar to criticize their neighbour's rage, it is they who would be living, eating and drinking the discharged wastewater.
Fair arguments if it wasn't for a thing hipocrisy. Both China and South Korea governments have approved dumping of wastewater (triatied water) in the past, so what they are doing now is using an event (Fukushima wastewater release) to further their goal, this is especially true for China.
Just to be sure to not me misunderstood it's not referred to you but to China and South Korea
@@riky-gl8nl wastewater and radioactive water is totally different, and speculations about China conspiracy theories are rumors deliberately spread by the United States, Japan and their followers.
@@Mikupigeonif it's still saltwater, that means japan doesn't filter anything from waste water except rocks or sludge.
@@Mikupigeon see the video again. They also use reverse osmosis (desalination) in the process.
Curious as to where you get your information about this. A lot of reports are prepared and paid for by TEPCO. I also don't think IAEA approved the release, it only tested a couple of radioactive tests and said they met their guidelines. Huge difference! If the ALPS is that great of a system, the creator should have open their book for other nations to test their samples too. Smell a lot of fishy business here that all punctual trains are not going to cover it. I do give them credits for doing their best until the release of these nuclear polluted water into the ocean.
This. IAEA spelled very clearly that their reports cannot be used as the basis for releasing the water. The samples they ran on were not collected on site but rather it was handed to them by the TEPCO. All the other testing results were released by TEPCO themselves with no third party verification and TEPCO has a history of lying to the public. Japan is also reportedly spending 70 billion YEN on propaganda efforts to convince the world that the water is safe. If it was truly safe, why would it need to do so? If it was truly dafe, why does Japan block other countries from testing the water themselves?
Tritium is not the real concern to the Chinese and other neighboring country, it is the other stuff that is worrisome. Nobody know how well ALPN works or if it works at all.
Anyone with basic knowledge on nuclear science will know that not only does tritium have a short half life and occurs naturally, but also that the concentration that its released in is negligible. It should also be noted that its found in water discharged by most nuclear power plants anyway as its created by neutron bombardment of the cooling water in the reactor itself.
Your report compares nuclear waste water from other countries with nuclear contaminated water of Fukushima. They are not the same thing.
After treatment they are
@lethanhminh8001 , one touches the core and the other just cool it down...you are welcome to feed your family with it.
@@geraldkhoo88 lol what a non-argument, you wouldnt drink from your own sewer, yet it is allowed to be discharged. Almost like they treat water for a reason
@lethanhminh8001 , dude, even our own sewage will biodegrade within days, weeks or even month. Nuclear has decades half-life! Dude, go to school and stop feeding your family with your nonsense.
The most ironic thing is, that the plant was scheduled to be decommissioned like 1 or 2 months later or so, and if they had a policy to update their safety system to the latest standards, the backup power generator wouldn't have been in the basement and potentially not flooded and would have been able to prevent all of this, but ohh well...
yes that was idiotic having the emergency generators in the basement especially in a country subject to tsunami's. they did have a protection wall but it turned out the tsunami was bigger than anyone predicted so it went over the wall.
I really love your science-focused, no BS approach to stuff like this... since media and politicians like to play up this kind of stuff for political reasons.
I love the Variety of engineering topics that you bring to our attention and the depth and clarity you present them with.
I appreciate that! thank you.
And also, just mention that those water other countries realeased to the Ocean is NOT contaminated radioactive water, is TOTALLY different with Fukushima situation, those Contaminated radioactive water from Fukushima contains dozens radioactive elements can cause cancer.
Exactly, there tryin to twist the info into there apionens
@@williamtheriault8874Try in English.
I'm not eating fish caught near Japan. Let those who say it's ok eat it and drink the water they say is safe. All the discussion I am hearing is about Tritium. What are the levels of the other radioactive materials? Since China imports most of their seafood, the Japanese should invite their biggest customer to do the tests to their satisfaction.
Why? Since you evidently don't know that, the water has already been filtered to eliminate all other isotope troughs the ALPS system, international scientific and technical bodies have already said that is safe, plus China has in the past released tritiated water, don't confuse a geopolitical statement/positioning with concern they don't have any.
@@riky-gl8nl Does eliminate all other isotopes mean reduce to zero, to levels found in nature and what are the numbers and comparisons? If it is all that safe then why not recycle for industrial use or even drink it? I am distant enough not to care about the geopolitical stuff. Just saying cos I am not convinced although I am not anyone who needs to be.
You do understand that there is tritium in the water you drink and the food you eat anyway, right? Just because it is "naturally" occurring doesn't make it a different kind of tritium. And by the time it has mixed with all that ocean water, it is so diluted as to not much matter anyway. There is also naturally occurring background radiation all around you. When you fly in a plane you are exposed to more radiation than at the surface, since you are above much of the atmosphere that screens you. When you are near granite you get more radiation.
As for the other radioactive materials, they were mentioned in the video as having been previously filtered out. But I guess you must have missed that part.
@@darkstar7999 Tritium in extremely rare in the earth's biosphere (10-18 tritium atoms per hydrogen atom vs deuterium 1 in 5000). It isn't stable and decays rapidly with a half life of 12.3 years. It is about 0.24 Bq/L... this is way lower than the radioactivity of 1500 Bq/L water that japan is dumping... and they are dumping 1.3 billion liters or 1.3 million tons of contaminated water. The problem is not the radioactivity of the water... it is the fact that tritium bio-accumulates. Life will concentrate all that tritium... up the food chain. And we humans sit at the top.
@@nickl5658 I am aware how rare Tritium is in Earth's biosphere. That half life of 12.3 years has a lot to do with that. But there is a LOT of water in the oceans. NOAA estimates 1,335,000,000 cubic kilometers, or 1.335E+21 liters. According to the CIA world fact book, the Pacific contains 669.88 million cu km, or 6.6988E+20 liters. You are talking about 1.3E+09 liters of contaminated water. That is 11orders of magnitude difference. I know I am supposed to be concerned about this but I am having problems summoning the concern. Also not sure how this bio-accumulates to the extent that the food chain is going to be affected. The biological half-life of tritium is 7-14 days. That is the time it takes for a living body to eliminate one half the quantity of an administered substance (as a radioisotope) through its normal channels of elimination. Bio-accumulation of Tritium is not a huge concern either.
There are 5 ways to deal with the situation (e.g. evaporation etc..). And they choose the cheapest and least safe method (discharging into the ocean). That, is hardly responsible and "doing their best".
You are aware that evaporation of trhe tritium simply moves it into the air, thence into rainfall? Is that better? Tritium is a component of the water; it is not a dissolved contaminant.
@@Mikupigeon Another misinformation. Other countries dispose water from a normal working reactor. Nobody has any issue with fukushima discharge when it was operating normally.
What they are discharging now is contaminated water that contacted a meltdown reactor, not normal waste water, and no country has ever discharge contaminated water this way. Even Russia buried the nuclear waste instead of flushing it into the sea.
@@puncheex2 The issue is not tritium. The focus on tritium is a distraction as part of the Japanese misinformation campaign. The issue is the other substances that cannot be easily removed. With evaporation, the compacted residue that remains can be safety buried and kept out of reach. Didn't the IAEA already said that level of tritium is not a concern?
@@testusersg
tritium is the only thing left in the water after the multi step filtering process.
every other contaminant gets removed befor the water is even close to being released.
@@testusersg After ALPS treaatment of the water? Tell me what it is specifically that is causing you concern, if it is not tritium.
Why won’t Japan allow other countries to inspect and test the water? Personal I won’t believe there is no impact to the environment. This is such a serious matter that more countries should be involved in the inspection and testing to ensure all discharged water are indeed meeting safety standard. For now Japan is hiding something.
Did you ever google what you said ?
Japan is looking for a bright future of magic dragons and cat-girl maids. Why bother them with facts 😂😂😂
@@slittle3527"Google? " 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
if anyone agree with this plan, he should take a sip, and invite all his family members to drink😅😅
The Chinese keep saying things like that, but can you guys drink seawater?
@@rhipsalis no，people like you should drink that，people who agree the discharging should drink that
@@rhipsalis alright，you are Japanese. That's the reason why you say that，but I've seen the fisherman in Japan who protest the Japan government without any sense of responsibility
@@lee-lq8rd You're the only ones making a commotion, 李-chan 😅
Ain't you lot embarrassed?
@@lee-lq8rd From your other drossy comments, I'm guessing you're a schizophrenic who loves conspiracy theories
My understanding is the concerns from the rest of the world are exactly the concerns that you outlined at the end. Japan has not published how well the other 62 elements have been filtered and just say the element left is Trillium. IAEA conclusions in their statements are based on Japan's info and not any independent measurements? It is very suspicious claim that the other 62 elements are completely eliminate without any measured and verified numbers.
Did you ever spend a few minutes to do a google search and check IAEA latest publishes?
Though it is not up to the Japanese government, and I think it would also be helpful to uncover the frauds, bribes and corruptions that are parallel to this event. Like the million euro “donation” to the IAEA?
This is extremely toxic nuclear contaminated water !!!
What Japan emits is that after the 311 accident, the furnace core exploded, the nuclear furnace material leaked, and the water that came into direct contact with the furnace core was left to this day because of the toxicity, and then now they say that they will prepare to be discharged into the sea in 30 years, which is the largest marine pollution incident in modern history.
Normal general nuclear power plants discharge cooling water from the hull of the body, and there is no leakage of nuclear substances.
Not only tritium is the issue. Carbon 14, Strontium 90 and Iodine 124 are involve!
Curious about the comment of not knowing the tsunami and earthquake would happen. They did know. There were reports done showing the risks (emergency generators located in the wrong position, doors not capable of withstanding water ingress) but TEPCO and the Japanese government ignored the reports, and they got sued for it.
I agree, nuclear power is pretty safe and clean… as long as people don’t cut corners on safety because whilst the chances are low, the price is extremely high.
I agree with you.
The biggest problem I have with nuclear energy is the waste. This is something we just haven't figured out yet. The problem is we can't quench or stop nuclear decay reactions (heck, we can't even predict when a particular atom in a sample will decay) and some of them go on forever (figuratively speaking, of course). It all just feels irresponsible to do something today that'll bind almost all future generations to an unsolicited obligation to care for and maintain nuclear waste sites long after we're all gone, don't you?
@@Israel_Two_Bit We HAVE solved the technical problems with nuclear waste disposal. We solved them a long time ago. We haven't solved the POLITICAL problem. Most people don't understand radiation, so they are afraid of it, and they don't want anything to be done with the waste. They probably think that radioactive waste is a glowing green goop, because that's what they saw on The Simpsons. In fact the typical form is a dry, glassified solid. It doesn't leak or flow. It's like a rock. You say we can't even predict when a particular atom in a sample will decay, but this is pointless. We can predict with EXTREME accuracy how quickly the entire sample will decay, and that is what we care about. No one cares about single atoms.
And well they should have been sued. They are not allowed an escape for having taken the easy way of not incurring the expense to improve safety.
I do hope that they do a better job this time so everything will be fine since this time, their action is irreversible.
As the spokesman of China Ministry of Foreign Affairs says, if the water is safe, it will be unnecessary to put it into the ocean, it can be used for constructions and agriculture; Meanwhile, if it's harmful, then it shouldn't be put into the ocean.
The planet is dying,so much science only for destruction when you can't control the after effects. Go get the ore you got the substance out from and try to encase that liquid with it in solid rock and bury it again
Because it's salt water from tsunami and human can't drink salt water. In the end Japanese will use this water for daily life, because most rain come from the sea
Actually, in the video, he literally said that the radiation level in the water is less than the amount currently permissible in our drinking water. Thus, were this fresh water and not salt water then indeed - you would be able to drink it without issue. PROVIDED, as he stated, that all the other elements have been in fact, filtered out.
@@darkstar7999 the Japanese company Tepco has a history of lying , that is their pattern of behavior, whatever Tepco reported I would believe the opposite is true
There's something called "dosage". Look it up and understand the concept, and for god's sake stop listening to the CCP
Sponsored by Japan's Fishing Industry.
Japan issue 2 news in August : 1) Japan dumping Fukushima water into the Sea. 2) Japan facing water shortage, an excerpt from their Asahi Shimbun new :
In Fukushima Prefecture, the supply of water to farms from a dam in Yabuki was stopped on Aug. 18 because the water level had dropped to 16.4 percent of capacity.
Residents of the greater Tokyo metropolitan area may be forced to brace for the first water rationing in seven years due to the lack of water at nine dams along the Tonegawa river system.
Japan claimed that their ALPS..whatever water is so safe that you can drink it. Why doesnt they use the fukushima water ON THEIR fukushima rice farm???? its a win-win for them right?
Instead they choose to dump the water, and face water shortage, a lose-lose situation. So WHY?
I would love to see you drink saltwater genius
@@lethanhminh8001 Salt water can be filtered
@@zhuanzhenfan extremely costly plus there is not even a point of doing that. No one pump water from downstream to upstream, and even if they jump through all of these hurdles, it will take forever to get rid of all of the water. They need the space for decommisioning.
The water is so clean you could drink it, they should have just "Dumped" it without any fanfare. People are so stupid and it's getting worse every year.
Did you check your stupidity level before writing this comment? 😂😂😂
the congressman of Japan who drank so-called clean water died in 2021 because of cancer
Still waiting for the executives and government "oversight" committee are brought up on charges and be held accountable for there incompetence and actions follow up to and after the accident.
I'd go so far as requiring being banned from working in such industries nor holding management positions for the rest of their life. I'd go so far as legal action with life in prison and or summary execution.
Politicians and "leaders" of the exploiter class must be held account.
Just a simple question, why Japan government disallow any 3rd party independant testing of the nuclear water release? other countries like South Korea have requested for independant testing of the water release water periodically by them, but Japan government ban all such request. Even IAEA were not allowed to sample the tested water, it's the Japan government providing the sample water.
if you were handed a glass of this water, would you drink it? Also, how much evidence is there that Japan is doing what they are saying?
They can use it their drinking water istead of wasting to ocean .
This youtuber also drink hukusima wasted water every day in frint of his video at least one year . Than he will have right condition to say it is safe !!
LOL. Such a question from a twisted mind. 😂😂😂
I would in a heartbeat (after having personally seen the treatment plant and the chemical analysis process on the particular sample I was about to drink, plus confirmation of the results from an independent third-party laboratory and maybe even doing some chemical analysis myself, lol).
Oh, no, scratch all that, I just remembered that the water they're releasing is diluted with seawater, so it'll be salty. Maybe I'd cook a good pasta with it instead.
But would I move to Fukushima for a year and drink it every day? Not that easy to answer, I'm afraid. Perhaps after doing a deep dive into how the other isotopes bioaccumulate, at what concentrations, and for how long. I trust in science and if I see no reason to worry, I won't worry, so I would do it. But I would surely do a very thorough investigation first.
After being diluted into the 352.6 _quintillion_ gallons of water in the ocean? Yeah probably still not. Salt water is gross.
How can we confirm that it is not dangerous?
This, Chernobyl, five mile island and the well published poor build quality of some French reactors, is the reason I’m totally against them. There are better safer ways to produce electricity. Those who say otherwise take a look at how long and at what cost when thing’s go wrong does it take to make these sites and the spent fuel safe. I think It’s total madness we’re playing a very deadly game.
Define "safer". Nuclear has by far the lowest deaths per kWh produced of any energy source we've come up with so far. Nearly 4x lower than the next on the list (solar) and 11x lower than the one after that (wind).
The problem isn't that nuclear is unsafe. The problem is that when it does go wrong, its big and flashy and generates lots of headlines which drives unjustified fear in both the public and the politicians who have to answer to the public.
Well that's only half the problem I guess. The other half is that we were running plants with a 40 year designed lifespan well into their 6th and even 7th decade. Its possible - perhaps likely - that we would have seen more disasters if Fukushima hadn't triggered countries around the world to start decommissioning their ancient reactors.
But its still highly disappointing that they were replaced with far more dangerous fuel sources like coal (~2500x more deadly than nuclear) and even natural gas (~100x more deadly). Sources that are also destroying the environment which will ultimately make them _millions_ of times more dangerous.
You sound like the people that condemned James Watt's steam engine when the boilers blew up (see SS> Sultana, for example). Generating energy is never risk free, and you are using just as muchas everyone else around you. Time to carry the load a little.
13:00 Yeah but its 15x higher than the EU standard. But lets not count that, right?
Because the most strict standard cant be based on science and safety, right?
We should only count the average most lax standard, of the WHO, who did a "great" job with the pandemic...
I still dont trust it....
So they’ve filtered out 62 out of 63 isotopes. What do they now do with the filters that contain all of the 62 bad things that are now stuck in the filters?
They will filter them with another filters to have perfectly safe filters 😄
They will seperate them, and replace the filters regularly. Then it will be formed into a solid and placed in a barrel in a nuclear storage facility most likely
According to the last NRC report thay can't get at the filters it's death to be in area of the alps plants for more than a minute. Less, I imagine being around an exposed filter cartridge.
Im from germany and I like your videos very much. So FUkushima had a tremendous impact on germany, we quit (!) nuclear power plants because of it !
It was announced by A.Merkel since the accident and took place over the years, the last 3 powerplants remaining where finally shut down this year. So everyone should concern about fukushima?
Well, my personal believe is that Godzilla is rising soon, in approx. 10-20 years there are 3 eyed fish and 11 legs crabs, and then one night, it came to land and destroyed complete Tokyo :-.))))
if that water is so safe to drink, why don't they just drink it all?
1/7th the quantity of Tritium from what the WHO says is safe in drinking water… but the WHO messed up with Corona & is having some difficulty with determining the difference between a boy & girl
So let’s say they drink it. It’s not like plastic where it stays in the body and accumulates, it passes through because it’s just another form of water.
And where does the treated human waste water go? Back to the ocean anyways.
The best part of how upset China is about this...
China is dumping exponentially more when you look at all their plants.
Source that supports this claim?
Idiot! you sure know the difference between nuclear waste water and nuclear contaminated water !?
prove it
@@PetraKannany nuclear commission, haven’t or regulatory body in any country. (Except maybe North Korea)
Google
Chinese N-plants Releasing Water Containing Tritium at Levels 6.5 Times Higher than Planned Fukushima Discharge
Or maybe try any search related to tritium and power plants.
I believe France is the worst "offender" for release, but they're also not complaining and blowing up about this non issue, so aren't hypocrites.
The theories are fine. The question is why they don't allow others to test the water and monitor if the water is so free of other elements? That is the first biggest concern. Also, if there are better ways to dispose of the water, but cost is higher, why not do that to err to the safe side, but rather spending much more in PR? Since there were so many scandals on falsifications in their industries, why would you have so much trust at the "Japanese competence"? It is this unknown that is scary.
Who told you they don't let anyone to test and monitor ?
@@slittle3527 From many sources. But you may not give credence to them since mostly from Asia, so are you aware of ANYONE were allowed to directly test the water in the tanks that are supposedly "treated", and with all other radioactive elements removed, but only low level of tritium is left? By the way, the fact they are just talking about tritium is a deceptive trick. All other cooling water from normally operating reactors contain tritium, and indeed even higher than what Japan said about the water they are releasing (I don't know how that is possible since this water directly contacted the melted core, unlike normal cooling water). They purposely play up the tritium question to mislead so people will compare its polluted water with other regular cooling water.
@@Whitfield369 Did you really read the news? Mostly from Asia? IAEA is an internationally creditable association, their specialists are from all over the world, where did you read their specialists are mostly from Asia? Did you really know what you are commenting without a proper knowledge? Focused on tritium ? Because tritium is the only detectable radioactive substance in the releasing water for now. Go back and do a little more reading before showing your ignorance, sigh.
@@slittle3527 Yes IAEA is supposed to be like what you said, but apparently they are not living up to that standard. You probably heard that China just stopped to pay their due of $60 million (before you scream, U.S. owes over $70 million), unless they invite the neighboring nations to participate in the monitoring process. The IAEA claimed they invited China before but China declined. That is quite bizarre because they could have easily present the evidence from China's declining of the invitation. My "Asian" sources I mentioned were from the Taiwan media, where NO ONE from Asia was consulted on this, other than getting support from the U.S. They just finally agreed to allow the Koreans to visit once a week under pressure from some Korean opposition politicians (the ruling party is totally silent under the U.S. pressure to be friendly with Japan). Now maybe it is time for you to do some more reading?
If the water is safe they should make bottled drinking water out of those and distribute it for their population
Explain to me how saltwater is a drinkable water ?
Regarding Ricky's concern about the possible release of other non-tritium substances, he answered the question: constant monitoring and testing. It would be easy to install online detectors; in addition, the water effluent should be sampled regularly and analyzed. The results must be documented and checked by internal and external reviewers. External investigators should be allowed to make random visits and analyze the water being released.
Ok so what happens after that nothing there is no plans to deal with aftermath. Hint now their just gonna release it.
Constant monitoring and testing??? What if these are over the limits? Siphon the whole Pacific Ocean back into Fukushima?
TEPCO and the Japanese government are committed to protecting a safe environment. Please consider why TEPCO built a large number of tanks. If TEPCO were an irresponsible company, they would not have built the tanks and would have dumped them into the sea untreated, just as the Russians did.
TEPCO and the Japanese government have been in close contact with the IAEA to ensure transparency in their handling of the accident, and the IAEA has approved the discharge of treated water as a reasonable and common method of disposal.
TEPCO won't allow any international independent scientists to monitor.
It is not released by Japan alone, but released while inspecting together with the IAEA and South Korea. The IAEA and South Korea are monitoring together with Japan until all the releases are over. Facilities and information are open to the public. South Korea was against it at first, but after sending an investigation team, it was in favor of the release. The test results, how to process ALPS, etc. are all published on the Internet. If you blame Japan, why don't you blame the United States, Europe,South Korea, and the IAEA, which are in favor of it? Both the United States and the IAEA say it's safe. The only ones who oppose it are China and North Korea, and they don't investigate or discuss.
You didn't ask the most fundamental question: There are other methods to treat the radioactive water, why Japan government insists to choose the cheapest way, i.e. dumping it to the ocean?
There is no treatment. They tried filters. The filters got so radioactive no one can service them. They thought to boil it off. But everyone knows what happened at Three Mile Island 😵💫☢️😓🤡
Why are you amplifying the basses i.e. low frequencies Ricky? Dislike.
It comes across nasty on sonos speakers. :)
Anyone aware Japan spent 4.8 billion USD on PR fees over just the waste water incident? Where do you think the money went? I’m not believing or not believing any journalists or scientists online or offline per say. Of course I’m Chinese so this is also personal to me. Historically speaking the Japanese people are capable of any horrific action.
Wumao
That explains a lot, look how they downplay and twist this issue.
The only way anyone would agree to releasing the radioactive water is if every single tank is tested and all 62 of the other radioactive elements that are not tritium are completely removed. Only then can the tank be released if the level of tritium is about the same level as is released by the average nuclear power plant.
Please use the correct terminology. It's NOT "wastewater", but contaminated water!. "Wastewater" from normal powerplants do not contain the 64 different types of radioactive contaminants that are ONLY found in the Fukushima contaminated water from the Level 7 meltdown, the same level as Chernobyl was in the USSR. By not using the correct terminology, you give apologists the chance to draw false equivalence between Fukushima and other powerplants around the world, which is what the apologists have been trying to do!
the data u showed about the releasted water is wrong. U didn't distinguish between nuclear wastewater and nuclear radioactive wastewater. the data is about nuclear wastewater not nuclear radioactive wastewater.
Tritium IS radioactive
i think you give too much credit to Japanese engineering. Fukushima wasn't Japan's first nuclear plant accident. and that wasn't Japan's first tsunami either. they had every reason to do things better in the first place. as for "running out of storage space" - the capacity was a decision, not an absolute limit. they could add more capacity if they wanted to. but it's more convenient for them to ignore that option.
You see, here is the thing: If the water is so safe, Japan must as well keep it for national use rather than sharing it with the world. All problems are solved!
Where? At what cost to teh country?
I see the baseless fearmongering worked on you.
@@ujiltromm7358 WHat fear mongering? I merely point out that a field of tankage, jamming the countryside around the plant, comes at a great expense just for the joy of storing the equivalent of rainwater. It appears that sarah is being a little sarcastic in her answer and I applaud that, but I've seen this argument before in earnest.
ALPS removes 62 of the 63 radioactive elements from the contaminated water. How? And where do those radioactive materials removed from the liquid go? If it’s trapped in some filter, what is done with those filters once full? Where do they store that?
Japan’s ‘Four Big Pollution Diseases’, based on past precedents, they will never admit mistake until the death issue resulted by pollution can't cover up anymore
WHY DOESN’T JAPAN USE IT FOR THEIR DRINKING WATER instead of being released into the Pacific Ocean if the water is so safe?
That’s a bad argument. It’s a drop in the bucket in the ocean. Vs direct consumption. Imagine dilution
Instead of up setting or make neighbour country worry. Why don't make a water bottle drink for japanese people to drink. This will solve the problem if so safe to drink as you say.
@@TwoBitDaVincibut it's only 1500 bq/l. Japan say It's safe to drink
It's a well though out plan, and the science is solid. The problem is when problems occur, the backup plan is less than ideal. How else do you explain fish caught in the area with high levels of radiation even when nothing was supposed to have been released?
The problem is that the waste water from other nuclear reactors has not come into contact with the radiation, but Japan’s has come into contact with the radiation, and the scary thing is that the water has come into contact with the nuclear reactor core. And by the way Korea is hoarding sea salt not China
What do you mean? (i'm serius i'm not sure i have understood completely your comment) by the way both South Korea and China have in the past realesed radiation (triatiated water) in the ocean following the standard operating procedure and making sure it was done safely, all of this got a lot more attention that what was really necessary.
lol. 😂😂😂😂
@@riky-gl8nl The Japanese government is using tritium as a distraction from the real issue, which is the other elements.
Some of which is highly toxic (but not radioactive). Fukushima is has been releasing normal nuclear waste water into the ocean during its normal operation (like what other countries did, the "norm") and nobody has any issues with it.
But the contaminated water from the meltdown is NOT the same as normal waste water from a functioning plant. The contaminated water has come into contact with the core, and has much more dangerous substances than tritium.
Their filtering system has been having issues and the Japanese government is hiding a lot of things. Basically, it is questinable if their ALPS can actually remove all the other substances, and THAT, is the issue.
If Japan is confident that the filtered water is safe, why they don't dare to invite scientist from China, Korean and other neighbouring countries to go to the site and inspect the water? That says a lot isn't it? If it is safe like they claimed, let others check.
Also, the IAEA only test like less than 1 % of the water, and they only test what the Japanese government ask them to test. That is hardly credible nor assuring. This channel is not telling the whole story.
@@testusersg that's not true other elements are filtered out using ALPS system (both radioactive and non radioactive) not even salt remains after the passage in the system (it's literally distilled water, but since there is still tritium, that can't be easily separated by water since it form HTO it's then diluted with sea water. Besides inspectors from China and South Korea can visit and inspect all the samples they want, South Korean governments have also acknowledged and approved the plan of the IAEA. Also AIEA tests all the water if you would have bothered to check their website for information, there is also a real time schematic that shows the reading of the instrumentation, not to say that IAEA establish a permanent base in Fukushima with inspector that will remain there until complete decommissioning of the whole plant is achieved.
@@riky-gl8nl Many experts are questioning the reliability of the ALPS, including Japanese scientists. Tritium is the least of the concerns actually. It's being used as distraction by the Japanese government. If the ALPS is working then yes, the water is considered clean. But question is many countries do not trust the reliability of the ALPS and for it to be working the filter must be changed after a period of use. The Japanese government didn't give details about the maintenance of the ALPS, how often they change the filter etc. As in any filteration system, the effectiveness will degrade after the residues accumulate. They need to be more transparent. IAEA only tests about 2 tons out of the 1000 tons of contaminated water.
1. It is a deliberate scheme to try to get attention to focus on Tritium rather than the 62 radioactive substances. We know the normal operating nuclear plants in UK, France, Canada generate far more Tritium than the plants in Japan/China/Korea.
2. The main concern is the other 62 radioactive substances that are supposed to be removed by ALPS, but are really completely removed? Over the course of 30 years?.The long term effectiveness and robustness has been a big concern. Afterall, even after filtering by ALPS, TEPCO ack that 70% of the tanks still contain radioactive substances above limits! So they need to use multi stage ALPS.
3. Another concern is the regulatotey limit of 62 radioactive substances: were they set for 30 years exposure? Did they do the study with aggregate of these 62 substances? Were limits designed for human? How about the long term exposure effect of much smaller marine lives such as shrimps, crabs, planktons?
4. Tokey Electric TEPCO has shown to be less than a trustworthy company, as they have been found omission or delays in reporting. The company executives were found guilty to be responsible for the nuclear disaster by A Tokyo Court in 2022. In fact, one of the biggest failing of TEPCO was: they were warnwd to build sea walls to handle a tsunami wave of 15m, and they didn't.
5. Lastly, the current real time monitoring of data is provided by TEPCO and consist of only measurement of Tritium concentration but not the other 62 radioactive substance. They only use a gross radioactive counter to.meadure the aggregate radioactive without individual breakdowns. They are also not measuring toxic but non radioactive substances that are present in the tanks.
what TEPCO has admitted is that approximately 66% of the approximately 1.34 million tons of water in storage, before being released, exceeded the standards(2018). There are two reasons for this. The first is that when ALPS first started operating, its purification performance was inferior to that of today. Second, since a large amount of contaminated water was being generated compared to the current situation, people were working to reduce radiation risks as quickly as possible by focusing on meeting "regulatory standards for on-site storage". And then, in December 2020, TEPCO announced that they were treated again using ALPS, and that nuclides other than tritium were purified to below the "regulatory standards for releasing them into the environment" without any problems.
According to the Japanese government, most of the nuclides other than tritium in all ALPS treated water before dilution are below the limits that can be detected by machines. There is a possibility that cesium 134/137, cobalt 60, ruthenium 106, antimony 125, strontium 90, iodine 129, technetium 99, carbon 14, etc. may be detected, but these will be reduced to less than 1/100 of the regulatory standard value.
Fukushima was its own enemy, the backup generators were supose to be on a nearby hill but in order to save cost they put them in water tight buildings on site. the contractor forgot to plug the conduit into the building. when the water rose the building flooded. and you know the rest of the story.
2 bit you are 12 years late for the party.Tepco has been dumping radioactive water into the ocean from day one ! 🙄
So has Diablo Canyon at 4x the rate 🇺🇸
Is there any data on that ? Until they had this system in place I'd assume your correct.
@@katiegreene3960 every county has a nuclear agency.... for the US its the NRC
lookup Radioactive Effluent and Environmental Reports for Diablo Canyon 1 & 2
This isn't simply true otherwise how would they end up filling all those tanks?
If japan was so on top of their game why didn't they have the back-up generators up on the hill and not right next to the plants? It's one to the most seismic areas in the world. Japan is not the only ones that are going to have to deal with this the WORLD is going to have to deal with this pretty much forever! You give these $h!+heads too much credit.
Well, "Japan" didn't build it. A company built it. And from what I have read elsewhere, they cut a few corners. Like companies (and people) do the world over.
@@darkstar7999
And the rest of the world has to pay
@@knyurla Actually, I don't think I have had to pay anything. Folks in Japan have had to pay something. I would hope their government has taken that company to task and that particular string of mistakes doesn't happen again in the future.
1000 L tank is not japan best effort, Jpan is so proud and promoting their G-cans project can keep 12 million cubic meter, mean they can keep those contaminated water 12 million tons ( where now is 1.3 million tons ) think again if Japan is so great and did their best ....
stop telling me Japan is good ... dont forget in WW2 how cruel can Japan be
They could have just drilled into Mt Fuji to heat up water, but nuclear power plants with underground back up diesel cooling generators on a coast prone to tsunami , is a disaster guaranteed.
As long as the government says it's ok then it's fine. The government never lies.
If the waste water to safe, as you say Ricky, will you be making a follow up video to prove that by drinking it yourself?
You also emphasize too much trust on Japan, I would rather observe what they do and judge from that rather than trusting a word "Japan". There are stories about Japan made airbag components responsible for dozens of lives lost in the past. Let's put our faith on human's deed not on their name.
You mentioned japan shut down most of its nuclear power plants. They did this to check if everything's secure. They restarted 20% and are planning to power on more than 60% in the nearby future
In fact, they plan to use nuclear power to produce the Hydrogen they will need to power their hydrogen economy.
So, Tritium doesn’t accumulate in the body? Did I hear that correctly?
@@darkstar7999 that's cool!
@@Sparklfoot It's treated the same as any h2O in the body, apparently. So it's "ejected" out in the same manner as water and doesn't accumulate
I hope you research more into this situation. According to Robert Richmond who is a research professor at the University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology (SOEST) and director of the Kewalo Marine Laboratory:
“At this point, we’re unanimous in saying we don’t see enough information to support dumping the radioactively contaminated water into the ocean,” said Richmond, who has conducted marine conservation research in the Pacific for more than four decades. “Our first recommendation is to take that option off the table for now.”
Gamma is not a particle (unless you count photons). It is high energy light.
And hence, electromagnetic radiation, as shown in the graphic at 11:37. :)
gamma radiation is high energy protons.
which are in fact particles.
Pumping radioactive water to the ocean like they never seen any Godzilla movie 🦖 ....
0:33 It's not coolant water.
It's contaminated ground water that they've so-far prevented from reaching the sea.
both...
also both are in ocean water at the turkeyP plant south of miami.. undeniable..and proven
The Japanese should just use those water for drinking, irrigation, laundry…etc in their country. Such a waste to dump it into the ocean.
One simple question: Japan as a country lack of water resources, why not dump the waste water into their own water ecosystem first if it’s safe?
Because it's sea water so if you dump it in a lake or something else will kill flora and fauna, besides if you put it in a river where is the river going? Yep to the ocean so why bother?
Don't believe you. Tritium is a very expensive, rare and precious resource (30'000$ per Gramm !!!). Why would the Japanese just throw this away? Also Tritium is not that dangerous. You can drink it. As with everything of course the dose makes the poison... Your story is weird on many levels.
It’s expensive because there are two ways of making it
(1) Separating it from water
(2) Bombabrding lithium with neutrons
the separation is far more expensive that the lithium method because even directly out of a reactor, the tritium is so diluted with other water that you yield only minuscule amounts. It’s chemical and physical properties are the same as water so it basically only leaves centrifuge as an option, but given the tiny yield, massive amounts of power and time would be required.
@@y0uCantHandle if the yield is tiny there's simply no danger at all. This video is just another fearmongering anti-nuclear propaganda.
1:45 thats HO2 not H2O
Typo
LOL, totally missed that. 👍👍
Wrong
Ut has Strontium Carbon and Iodine radio isotopes not able to be filtered out as well
This is from Greenpeace Japan
"hard to predict that an earthquake and a tsunami would happen together"
Facepalm
All they had to do was study Japanese history.
Of course that's not nearly as bad as the power emergency down here in Texas which was caused mainly by too much of our power production infrastructure not being winterized.
We even had a reactor go down for "cold weather related issues" as the turbines & generators for both nuclear power plants in the state are out in the open.
We had a freeze almost as bad that knocked out some power back in 2011 and other bad freezes back in '89 and '83 so they can't in good faith claim that hard freezes don't happen.
It's not the event by itself, it was the 4th strongest earthquake in recorded human history and while there were defences in place, they weren't prepared for such a scenario, what I like about the nuclear industry as much as the aircraft industry is that every incident is used to learn and prevent such incidents from happening again.
What they could not have predicted was the intensity of the earthquake/tsunami. Fukushima had been warned that the backup systems could be flooded in the event of a tsunami but they thought a tsunami of that magnitude was very improbable
@@LuisSierra42 Agree. They did have a seawall. It was not high enough, just as it was not high enough for most of the coastal cities.
Dude, the normal cooling water release by other nuclear power plant doesn't make any contact with the uranium core. They are separated by a very thick protective casing. Whilst Fukushima uranium core has melt down it's protective casing. They are using the sea water to flush it, hoping that it wouldn't melt it way down to the Japan's underground water. If it's really safe, they would have use it domestically. Dumping in ocean would have the irreversible impact to the global environment. More people n animals will die of cancer. No matter what excuses they have, they shouldn't drag the whole world into this. It's not our responsibility to carry the mistake they made.
According to Taiwanese media reports, The discharge of treated water from Fukushima triggered a heightened interest in radiation among the Chinese.
Sales of Geiger counters are increasing, and people are reporting their home radiation measurements on Weibo.
When a man living in Shanghai measured the radiation level in his home, it was 976 times higher than in Tokyo.
China's 'soy pulp' construction is famous, but are the housing construction materials safe?
Isn't sand near nuclear test sites being used to make concrete cheaply?
People who buy real estate in China should measure it with a Geiger counter before buying.
Take care of your health and life. 🙏
Aquaman will not be pleased!
The Deep will get his revenge
What is happening with the other 62 chemicals being filtered ?, what are the chances of another Tsunami hitting the plant over the time it takes to decommission it taking them back to square one ?
Japanese gov. will dump tons of nuclear waste into the ocean, and we will get personal CO2 budgets... :)
It's literally 20 grams of tritium... The tons are of water...
If the water is that safe, why pouring it into the ocean? Why not use it to irrigate the field? Why the independent water check initiated by Korean, China and Russia is rejected by Japan?
Water is not a particularly valuable commodity, and Japan isn't really deficit of it. This really isn't much water we're talking about, probably less than a day's worth of water consumption for the whole country.
Thank you for your time in the research of information and making of these videos
thanks - this video would have been complete is the China's issue would be discussed
Japan should release into its own farmland and into the iac to show the international community all is safe
Also i believe the nuclear reactor is made by GE, so GE should also take blame for its design.
If the water was safe, why they needed to dump it into the ocean. They could put it back to the city water system.
Water is basically free, and it's not like Japan has a deficit of it.
Blown out of proportion.
Totally, it’s the biggest non event of the year.
It's these 62 other isotopes and elements that are the worry. How much of these are released? The toxicities and the accumulation in the food chains might be a risk for marine life and people eating seafood. TEPCO seems very focused on tritium, but what about all these other elements? They are an unknown, and a reason for China and others to be sceptical about seafood from Japan.
I don't even feed my cats pacific seafood 🐈⬛💀🤭☢️🤕
Other radioisotopes have been chemically separated from the wastewater. The Tritium cannot be entirely removed because it is chemically identical to water.
Godzilla needs this to keep him strong
Their dumping the water not because it's safe but for the reason there is no more room.
Is the water Japan discharges into the sea safe? No one can decide now, it will take time to obtain evidence. What you need to decide as an ordinary person is whether it is worth risking the health of yourself and your family to eat Japanese seafood now?
I'll take the risk.
@@numbersstationsarchive194 respect your personal choice
They could instead use the contaminated water to make concrete. There is a proposal that has been put out as an alternative that is being ignored. If put in concrete the tritium could decay while trapped and fall to safe levels by the time the concrete fails. It could use up the water in 5 years rather than 30 years. None of it would get into the food supply. The concrete could be used on site for containment purpose. The concrete would be safe to be around since the radiation from tritium does not penetrate the skin.
A good idea, but we would have to sample the concrete before any machining / demolition that creates dust. Breathing in the dust of such a concrete would be more hazardous due to the tritium.
And it would emit beta radiation from its surface and beta radiation DOES penetrate skin (it is alpha radiation that can be stopped by a sheet of paper, beta can penetrate the skin and cause damage).
@@mikefochtman7164 The half life of tritium is only 12 years. Concrete structure will be fine for like 100 years which is 8~ half lives which means only around 0.4% of the tritium will be around by then. And since it is concrete it will be in one place where you can test it and contain it if need be unlike dumping it into the ocean.
@@username65585 Yeah but who would buy such concrete, I mean we know it's safe but for most people even earing the world radiation cause panic. Also the release in the ocean is stricly controlled and level of radiation are consistently under 300 Bq/L (Maximun limit 1500 Bq/L) that is still well under the 10000 Bq/L the OMS consider safe for drinking water.
@@username65585in the ocean it is diluted far beyond a 1 in 256 level within even a week. What the japanese are doing is absolutely not an issue
@@riky-gl8nl The concrete would be used on site for containment walls and such.
But nobody died. Japan needs nuclear, Fukushima was an old design (but still far better than Chernobyl, which is why radiation levels are normal in the city). Wind and solar will not do it, we need a lot of new nuclear reactors asap.
remember a banana has 15 Bq of beta radiation
Sounds like you're drinking the kool aid ! Nuclear isn't dirty ???
You know much my radioactive sludge they have to deal with? This is the filtered part. It’s a huge mess.
Isn't there demand for tritium in fusion research?
So it's really a commodity they could sell?
They use it in watches, gun sights, emergency lights.
France produces 500x more and dumps it into the English Channel every year as waste… so yeah even when it’s free there still isn’t strong demand
Yes, it's sellable as tritium and as h3 also
Tritium has its uses, but the problem is how to separate it from the 'ordinary' water. Chemically they act identically so there is no chemical way to do that. Break down the water to H2 and O2, and feed the H2 into some sort of centrifuge could be tried, but it's very difficult/ expensive.