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Payo talking about a rare and then Grubby thinking he's trolling and then finally believing him and coming to see and then it disappearing is peak comedy
Its almost like its two adults who respect each other and know how to communicate. I was really impressed with both Payo and Grubby when this happened. Grubby could have been passive aggressive the whole dungeon and Payo could have kept trolling but no. Everything was layed out and both took the time to understand each others point of view. Its honestly really refreshing to see
I don't think Grubby was anywhere near clear enough about wanting to go safe and slow before almost quitting the party or kicking Payo. His point would be totally fair if he had been clear and then Payo had been omega goofing, but Grubby almost immediately went to "I can't focus on playing like this" after a few goofs and gafs from Payo.
@@AsifIcarebear3 And Payo could have made sure that his goofing around was ok, instead both of their expectations for how the group dynamic would work was wrong. They both sat down and discussed it. There is nothing wrong with with getting annoyed at someone and putting it out there as long as you can be respectful which both of them were.
@@77chance That's Payo's whole personality and shtick tho, its like asking a cat not to meow. He thought it was all gucci and reigned it in insta when he was aware.
Some people in the comments disrespecting grubby for expressing how he felt.. smh. He was nervous about this dungeon knowing that more experienced players in his guild avoided this dungeon for various reasons. Having no experience here, he was nervous. And he did not want to die because he would not come back to WoW if he did.. Its not hard to grasp. Saying he's soft or trolling is just sad on your behalf. This is a cake walk for someone like Payo. Props to him for handling it with class.
Honestly I get it. I got a mate like Payo, hilarious and quick witted but he’s just doesn’t stop yapping sometimes lol. As a main tank new to the dungeon with 4 lives in your hands he’s not wrong for this 🤷🏼♂️
Many? Like who? Seems to me like everybody from onlyfangs except that pretentious prick piRATe are normal level-headed people when it comes to dealing with someone being serious about something.
This is wholesome stuff. 2 human beings, being open and slightly vulnerable. Both of them being uncomfortable, while at the same time having a productive conversation. Humility triumphs over pride. Respect to both of these players.
I've raided with well meaning yappers while having too little brain space for raid mechanics and yapping at the same time, and I wish I would have handled it this well. I've also raided with yappers who were asked very politely to clear comms who I wish would have handled it this well.
I was in Grubbys chat at the time, the whole chat was spamming "vibes off" and you could see him slowly get overwhelmed with the conversation since he didn't have room to breathe or plan out his next step, and that lead him to think what might happen if it was during an overpull. I have no complaints about Payo and love the content, but would also feel overwhelmed if going into a tense situation (this dungeon has some messy encounters) and not having a moment to think how id handle it. Grubby also felt responsible for the others, since several members of the party were his viewers.
I dont think so tbh, he said he's feeling a lot of pressure and its his first time doing this dungeon and feels a lot of responsibility at the time. And the fact its hardcore makes it a lot more stressful for him so if he can't "lock in" (concentrate and be serious) because he feels payo is distracting him then thats fair enough. He also said it very respectfully and didnt crash out so I have a lot of respect for him sharing his feelings in a mature way
@@DLLW93 well he didnt do it first time overall, since he ran the dungeon on his mage. But backline mage and tank are two different things especially with kb and other mechanics in this dungeon, so i totally understand grubby here. If he ran that dungeon for the 20th time in every role he'd be a lot more confident here.
HUGE respect to both of you! INSANE to see this on the internet now a days.... BIG respect to grubby being honest and truthful up front and awesome to see you bring it down and just get the conversation out of the way right up front. This is rare in society... people usually dont say anything and just hate the other person quietly...
You handled that pretty well. There's been times when I get really excited and joke around and have fun, and it's too much for some people. It's hard for me to take that criticism and still have a good time, typically I would feel awkward and ashamed and not not say anything again. That happened a lot when I would drink, and that's why I don't anymore, so I can read people better. You handled it well though, you took the criticism and didn't let it bother you too much. I really like your energy though Payo, so don't change.
he hadnt said shit when grubby accused him of lying about a rare spawning, very strange thing to accuse someone of. A lot of people would leave a dungeon as soon as someone tells them to be quiet, then yaps to an old man for the next 15 mins
grubby asked him to come and they clearly knew eachother from before as you can hear at the start of the call. if you pay attention when the manchild (they are both manchildren tbf) starts getting pissy, he touches on the fact that payo made fun of his dps earlier. he clearly got upset by that because the only redeeming quality he has is being good at games, well wc3 specifically. the guy has zero personality
@@kewa123 he's a nice guy but I gotta agree he really does not have a shining personality which is fine too. If he wasn't extremely good wc3 player i dont think he would have any audience
@@kewa123 Grubby is absolutely not a manchild and you better look up what that word even means, he's one of the most level headed gamers you find streaming.
@@MageAtYou lmfao hes a 40 year old childless man who plays video games all day. he was well into his 30s before he made any real money from this as well. not to mention his ego centered around video games. doesn't really matter tho what u call him, he is what he is
W on both of them, they handled that perfectly and this is how it should happen. Two adults that disagreed about something and talked shit out and now they are getting dubs on plunderstorm
Btw Payo. someone killed the rare elite Jade on another layer. thats why it disappeared. its a typical bug with phasing it happens on private servers too.
Na he got layered when they exited the dungeon if you look at the right side the bat pet of the hunter disappears too, the hunter changed too a mage also :p
For me Grubby was taking himself a bit too serious while Payo was talking a bit too much over other players. I think both profited from this interaction.
I think it's impressive how a week after such drama about taking responsibility you both can have such a good conversation about it. I am a Grubby Fan for long time and started watching you about when Onlyfangs 2 started. Now i'm currently only watching your content at the moment and I love how you handled that situation man
if grubby could just see your face while you talk i feel like he wouldve taken it all different. glad they talked maturely though and ended things on a very wholesome note
POM-Payo : Instant trolling with the chatter box. Reset CD : 3 sec. Infinite verbose. Was not cringy. Getting to know the little man like this was a bit hard on Grubby for sure. But you stayed yourself and both took it like champs. Such a roller coaster of emotions!
Great response from Payo, Great job on Grubby owning up to his own mistakes. Piratesoftware wouldn't be able to pull something like this off in a million years xD
Grubby is a good dude. No reason for people to diss him here. I think even he would admit he overreacted. People are saying he's throwing fits and/or looking for drama, but I don't see it this way. I think it's more due to his personality of being introverted. Sometimes it's harder to express yourself and when you do it all comes out like that Funny enough Grubby could probably use a friend like Payo lmao
Would have been hilarious to see Payo and Pirate in a group, I can understand Grubby, Payo is very... how to say.... an acquired taste, as someone like Grubby (who I never heard pre-OF2) wouldnt know how to take it. Payo is great but as I say, an acquired taste
you trolling Grubby about the dps meter is funny because he's such a good gamer outside wow so bullying him in wow is funny, its like if someone was great at chess but you bullied them in checkers
i couldn't last 5 seconds in a call with payo. he is so annoying with the way he tries to fill time asking dumb questions he knows the answer to. thats like most of his stream content, asking dumb questions he knows the answer to it's exhausting to listen to.
and you just keep going with the stuff they're telling you to stop with.. it's so fantastic to watch.. wasn't sure until today that i really love your content. It's so painful yet sweet to watch.. ping pong between entertained and embarassed.
It's just two very different personalities clashing together. Payo is a natural clown and Grubby is a mega tryhard former competitor. I think video games will always be serious business for him, even when he's having fun. And on top of that Grubby was feeling on edge because he's carrying a lot of responsibility doing Sunken Temple for the first time.
@@HallsteinI He was not doing ST for the first time, he did the dungeon with his mage before, it's just that the tank and long range damage dealer are two different things, tank carry more responsibility on their shoulders, Grubby afraid that if he failed that he might doomed the entire party that's why he was being neverous here.
you be you payo ❤ some cultures have different humour plus intercultural differences. just vibe with savix and the real ones, dont need insecurity in your life. surround yourself with champs, you be you efff everyone else ❤
Grubby lots of times says something that seems unnecessary in my opinion. Or takes other peoples statements so personally or their actions. Very emotional person. Enjoyed watching his initial content with wow but then lost interest because he acts out too much for me in that regard... It's like he never experienced real danger but throws tantrum to every conversation that he finds annoying. He would literally fight out with someone who posted some insignificant comment on twitch. Yes Payo talks so much and makes people lose focus but he needs to understand how he is annoying sometimes. Payo does this for content but Grubby is very toxic deep down with these tantrums
Look I've said it before but grubby isn't just sensitive he has an ego and I get it all wow players have an ego but he cannot stand anyone saying anything about him even if they never said it and chat said they did this is the kind of crap that happened between him and Mewnfaare, and you can see grubby struggling between actually sounding like a dick and trying not to but you can tell he really kind of wanted to and payo might tease people a lot but he actually is pretty nice and offers to die for them and just level again
his online persona depends on his "gaming skills". payo is a decent player too, the difference being payo's popularity comes from his personality more so. grubby on the other hand might as well stream without a camera and mic
Payo is the equivalent of the people that talk loudly on their phone during a movie. Grubby is fine with trolling and shittalking, us Europeans aren't easily offended but I'd mute Payo if I had to play with him. Jokes are meant to be part of a call/conversation not the entire thing start to finish, at that point its not even a joke, youre just annoying.
then why did grubby want him in the group? they clearly know eachother from before. it was all fine and dandy until payo made a joke about his shit dps. couldn't even kill first boss before grubby's sensitive ego had enough
@@kewa123 they grouped before for a previous dungeon, and Payo was much less intense during that one, they had fun and got on well. If you watch Grubbys perspective, you can see the issue started way before the dps comment... Its not even about the nature of the conversation, the trolling or the jokes; its about the sheer amount of them together overwhelming him. If this was softcore then everyone would keep going and laugh it off, but after dying and relevelling to this point he has to consider the risk of wasting another 100-200 hours. Keep in mind, this is Grubby's first WoW experience and he dove straight into hardcore, so the tension is understandably much higher for him. Edit: Payo did nothing wrong, but Grubby needed clear comms. (And this drama probably wouldnt exist if he just said it that simply)
I really like both of you guys but your twitch chat was nasty. Goofing off and trolling is cool, but man your chat are the ones that actually got triggered. Respect to you Payo and Grubby.
Payo was talking like nonstop and disupting communication. Also he was taunting his teammate alot, joke or not its not a good thing for teamplay and concentration. Especially in hardcore it isnt cool at all bc everyone playtime is on the line.
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Payo talking about a rare and then Grubby thinking he's trolling and then finally believing him and coming to see and then it disappearing is peak comedy
He also called it "Chad"
Its almost like its two adults who respect each other and know how to communicate. I was really impressed with both Payo and Grubby when this happened. Grubby could have been passive aggressive the whole dungeon and Payo could have kept trolling but no. Everything was layed out and both took the time to understand each others point of view. Its honestly really refreshing to see
In Europe they have better respect
I don't think Grubby was anywhere near clear enough about wanting to go safe and slow before almost quitting the party or kicking Payo. His point would be totally fair if he had been clear and then Payo had been omega goofing, but Grubby almost immediately went to "I can't focus on playing like this" after a few goofs and gafs from Payo.
@@AsifIcarebear3 And Payo could have made sure that his goofing around was ok, instead both of their expectations for how the group dynamic would work was wrong. They both sat down and discussed it. There is nothing wrong with with getting annoyed at someone and putting it out there as long as you can be respectful which both of them were.
@@77chance That's Payo's whole personality and shtick tho, its like asking a cat not to meow. He thought it was all gucci and reigned it in insta when he was aware.
honestly gigachad convo to iron out the small wrinkles
Some people in the comments disrespecting grubby for expressing how he felt.. smh. He was nervous about this dungeon knowing that more experienced players in his guild avoided this dungeon for various reasons. Having no experience here, he was nervous. And he did not want to die because he would not come back to WoW if he did.. Its not hard to grasp. Saying he's soft or trolling is just sad on your behalf. This is a cake walk for someone like Payo. Props to him for handling it with class.
Its HC. Theres nothing wrong with being concerned about a group.
This is the way. Payo and Grubby showed the community how to work things out. They have my respect
this is the way
This might seem "cringe" for some but that's the adult way of handling things. Both of them handled this really well.
Wish payo treated everyone in the game like this and not just grubby lol...
His name is JHAD
Don't let 12 year olds gaslight you into thinking basic human courtesy and communication is somehow cringe
I was thinking the same thing
@@DivineBananayou mean 35 year olds with depression and gaming addiction.
"a little bit tired and needs to eat" is the most gollum answer to "how's it been going" lmao
Honestly I get it. I got a mate like Payo, hilarious and quick witted but he’s just doesn’t stop yapping sometimes lol. As a main tank new to the dungeon with 4 lives in your hands he’s not wrong for this 🤷🏼♂️
"He's name is Chad..... Jade"
jad* lol
Zhad 😂
Fortunately Payo is a nice guy because many would not have reacted that way...
Many? Like who? Seems to me like everybody from onlyfangs except that pretentious prick piRATe are normal level-headed people when it comes to dealing with someone being serious about something.
He was being extremely nice
Latin vs Germanic europeans lol
Payo for president
@@cluttereddrawers2084 Isn't Payo French Canadian? Lmfao where is the Latin coming from? Am i wrong?
French Canadians say the absolute least in the slowest way possible with a couple more words added. Love you Payo New fan big time
This is wholesome stuff.
2 human beings, being open and slightly vulnerable. Both of them being uncomfortable, while at the same time having a productive conversation.
Humility triumphs over pride.
Respect to both of these players.
I've raided with well meaning yappers while having too little brain space for raid mechanics and yapping at the same time, and I wish I would have handled it this well.
I've also raided with yappers who were asked very politely to clear comms who I wish would have handled it this well.
I understand Grubby needed some space and silence to focus, but Payo surprisingly hadled it very maturely. They both were confused at the beginning.
Both were fine and mature about it. Dont see the issue
That’s the point. Two grown ups handling things just fine.
honestly respect to grubby. you are in a high level dungeon in hardcore if your team cant focus up i wouldnt wanna run the dungeon either
respect to both of them honestly, they handled it well in the end
This interaction is the absolute best. Kudos Payo, you are great.
I crack up every time he says “Gruuuubby”😂
as a fan of both grubby was tweakin on this one.
yup
I was in Grubbys chat at the time, the whole chat was spamming "vibes off" and you could see him slowly get overwhelmed with the conversation since he didn't have room to breathe or plan out his next step, and that lead him to think what might happen if it was during an overpull.
I have no complaints about Payo and love the content, but would also feel overwhelmed if going into a tense situation (this dungeon has some messy encounters) and not having a moment to think how id handle it. Grubby also felt responsible for the others, since several members of the party were his viewers.
@@cascade1788 i see your point
I dont think so tbh, he said he's feeling a lot of pressure and its his first time doing this dungeon and feels a lot of responsibility at the time. And the fact its hardcore makes it a lot more stressful for him so if he can't "lock in" (concentrate and be serious) because he feels payo is distracting him then thats fair enough. He also said it very respectfully and didnt crash out so I have a lot of respect for him sharing his feelings in a mature way
@@DLLW93 well he didnt do it first time overall, since he ran the dungeon on his mage.
But backline mage and tank are two different things especially with kb and other mechanics in this dungeon, so i totally understand grubby here. If he ran that dungeon for the 20th time in every role he'd be a lot more confident here.
HUGE respect to both of you! INSANE to see this on the internet now a days.... BIG respect to grubby being honest and truthful up front and awesome to see you bring it down and just get the conversation out of the way right up front. This is rare in society... people usually dont say anything and just hate the other person quietly...
You handled that pretty well. There's been times when I get really excited and joke around and have fun, and it's too much for some people. It's hard for me to take that criticism and still have a good time, typically I would feel awkward and ashamed and not not say anything again. That happened a lot when I would drink, and that's why I don't anymore, so I can read people better. You handled it well though, you took the criticism and didn't let it bother you too much. I really like your energy though Payo, so don't change.
I was waiting for the "just kidding", but it never came lol. Payo, you're a legend, don't ever change for nobody.
made me happy made smile the way two people can so quickly revolve something with words :O
I Love the Grubby x Payo content it seems so healthy for both! Thank you for both always improving!
that ending was so wholesome holy shitta
Lets be honest. Payo is funny af, but he is not everyones cup of tea. If i didnt know him and group with him, i would be triggered hard
he hadnt said shit when grubby accused him of lying about a rare spawning, very strange thing to accuse someone of. A lot of people would leave a dungeon as soon as someone tells them to be quiet, then yaps to an old man for the next 15 mins
grubby asked him to come and they clearly knew eachother from before as you can hear at the start of the call. if you pay attention when the manchild (they are both manchildren tbf) starts getting pissy, he touches on the fact that payo made fun of his dps earlier. he clearly got upset by that because the only redeeming quality he has is being good at games, well wc3 specifically. the guy has zero personality
@@kewa123 he's a nice guy but I gotta agree he really does not have a shining personality which is fine too. If he wasn't extremely good wc3 player i dont think he would have any audience
@@kewa123 Grubby is absolutely not a manchild and you better look up what that word even means, he's one of the most level headed gamers you find streaming.
@@MageAtYou lmfao hes a 40 year old childless man who plays video games all day. he was well into his 30s before he made any real money from this as well. not to mention his ego centered around video games. doesn't really matter tho what u call him, he is what he is
The ending is so wholesome
W on both of them, they handled that perfectly and this is how it should happen. Two adults that disagreed about something and talked shit out and now they are getting dubs on plunderstorm
Btw Payo. someone killed the rare elite Jade on another layer. thats why it disappeared.
its a typical bug with phasing it happens on private servers too.
Na he got layered when they exited the dungeon if you look at the right side the bat pet of the hunter disappears too, the hunter changed too a mage also :p
Payo you done well resolving that drama! Respect!
Good job bro, this is how adults deal with situations, it's nice to see it
now contrast this with the fallout diremaul run which recently caught infamy for being totally unhinged on all sides.
I like how clear and direct grubby is communicating.
Maybe it's because he's dutch might have something to do with it
Dutch people like to say they communicate in a straightforward way but that's only a partial truth in my experience.
No, it's all belittling payo because he's butthurt grieffing and also Payo makes Grubby look very small so he's acting like a bitch.
Payo been streaming and entertaining too long on classic. Forgot that some people are real new and nervous 😂.
For me Grubby was taking himself a bit too serious while Payo was talking a bit too much over other players. I think both profited from this interaction.
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24:16 grubby trying to imitate payo was so funny LOL
the thumbnail is 10/10 regarding the situation :D
Payo didn't have mana in this dungeon, what did he expect him to do?
Do you see my energy!?
I honestly thought he was trolling, but nicely handled from both sides, thats how the best friendships start.
raid leader grubby says CLEAR COMMS
From both of you it was super good handled situation. I like it! Grown up man speaking to eachother. Respect !
Obviously if youre not familiar with Payo, he can catch you off guard. Glad they were able to resolve it.
ive done sunken temple over a dozen times and i still dont know the dungeon so i know payo isnt lying lol
I think it's impressive how a week after such drama about taking responsibility you both can have such a good conversation about it. I am a Grubby Fan for long time and started watching you about when Onlyfangs 2 started. Now i'm currently only watching your content at the moment and I love how you handled that situation man
Payo is fking hilarious man, glad I got to discover you this year through OnlyFangs
Payo is hilarious, but i totally get it sometimes.
if grubby could just see your face while you talk i feel like he wouldve taken it all different. glad they talked maturely though and ended things on a very wholesome note
POM-Payo : Instant trolling with the chatter box. Reset CD : 3 sec. Infinite verbose.
Was not cringy. Getting to know the little man like this was a bit hard on Grubby for sure.
But you stayed yourself and both took it like champs. Such a roller coaster of emotions!
You handled this situation like a champ, seriously chapeau bas!
Great response from Payo, Great job on Grubby owning up to his own mistakes. Piratesoftware wouldn't be able to pull something like this off in a million years xD
the little man being a big man and taking criticism ofc. the piRATe can learn a little something ofc.
👏 you handled that well payo
Pirate needs to take notes on how to handle things like an adult
Grubby is a good dude. No reason for people to diss him here. I think even he would admit he overreacted. People are saying he's throwing fits and/or looking for drama, but I don't see it this way. I think it's more due to his personality of being introverted. Sometimes it's harder to express yourself and when you do it all comes out like that
Funny enough Grubby could probably use a friend like Payo lmao
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Would have been hilarious to see Payo and Pirate in a group, I can understand Grubby, Payo is very... how to say.... an acquired taste, as someone like Grubby (who I never heard pre-OF2) wouldnt know how to take it. Payo is great but as I say, an acquired taste
Payo would love to see you play the little blade master on wc3
To be fair Payo has more energy than like 75-90% of the other wow streamers. I can understand Grubby being flustered.
I'd linkPirate sotware this clip on how to handle confrontation, but I'm banned for saying "mana" kekw
im the same type of person as grub, if i was in exact same situation id feel insecure and leave too, im a little sensitive aswell. love you guys
This was beautiful.
This is literally Grubby being overstimulated, Payo you are amazing keep it going man! this is how you deal with drama :D
That plunder dub was great POGGERS IN THE CHATTTTAH
Both finish with a Win ! First win for both! Kinda crazy! Two adults who respect each other, talking for real!!!
You're such a great guy Payo!
Mad respect to Payo and Grubby.
Grubby is right about payo being perniciously playful with his "trolling" and goofing around
Is this eu hardcore?
you trolling Grubby about the dps meter is funny because he's such a good gamer outside wow so bullying him in wow is funny, its like if someone was great at chess but you bullied them in checkers
Agree😂. And grubby couldn't handle it. What bitch😂
why is this so damn wholesome?
this vid earned my sub! awesome character by both!
Bravo my little man. PPC even outside the little comfort zone
i couldn't last 5 seconds in a call with payo. he is so annoying with the way he tries to fill time asking dumb questions he knows the answer to. thats like most of his stream content, asking dumb questions he knows the answer to it's exhausting to listen to.
and you just keep going with the stuff they're telling you to stop with.. it's so fantastic to watch.. wasn't sure until today that i really love your content. It's so painful yet sweet to watch.. ping pong between entertained and embarassed.
Payo just misunderstood
but way to hash it out
well done
Love Grubby, but damn the former professional try-hard gamer in him came out right hard here..
It's just two very different personalities clashing together. Payo is a natural clown and Grubby is a mega tryhard former competitor. I think video games will always be serious business for him, even when he's having fun.
And on top of that Grubby was feeling on edge because he's carrying a lot of responsibility doing Sunken Temple for the first time.
@@HallsteinI He was not doing ST for the first time, he did the dungeon with his mage before, it's just that the tank and long range damage dealer are two different things, tank carry more responsibility on their shoulders, Grubby afraid that if he failed that he might doomed the entire party that's why he was being neverous here.
very wholesome. props
you be you payo ❤ some cultures have different humour plus intercultural differences. just vibe with savix and the real ones, dont need insecurity in your life. surround yourself with champs, you be you efff everyone else ❤
very much respect here and class from both parties great job lads while also being funny lmao
Good job Payo my little man!
See kids this is how 38 year old men talk. GG WP
very mature of you two
Grubby lots of times says something that seems unnecessary in my opinion. Or takes other peoples statements so personally or their actions. Very emotional person. Enjoyed watching his initial content with wow but then lost interest because he acts out too much for me in that regard... It's like he never experienced real danger but throws tantrum to every conversation that he finds annoying. He would literally fight out with someone who posted some insignificant comment on twitch.
Yes Payo talks so much and makes people lose focus but he needs to understand how he is annoying sometimes. Payo does this for content but Grubby is very toxic deep down with these tantrums
#tooinsecure
yep.
He did not feel comfortable with the situation, so he speaks up about it in the lightest way he can. How is that a tantrum?
i hate drama people so annyoing and i don't respact them im down so much of pain and hurts every day no one give shit 😞
warms my heart
I like you payo but I agree that when sometime you get into group with bigger streamers you can get "overexcited"!
Look I've said it before but grubby isn't just sensitive he has an ego and I get it all wow players have an ego but he cannot stand anyone saying anything about him even if they never said it and chat said they did this is the kind of crap that happened between him and Mewnfaare, and you can see grubby struggling between actually sounding like a dick and trying not to but you can tell he really kind of wanted to and payo might tease people a lot but he actually is pretty nice and offers to die for them and just level again
yeah man hes like a snowflake out of the textbook, its almost like he didnt even grew up in the main time of the internet lol
his online persona depends on his "gaming skills". payo is a decent player too, the difference being payo's popularity comes from his personality more so. grubby on the other hand might as well stream without a camera and mic
Payo is the equivalent of the people that talk loudly on their phone during a movie. Grubby is fine with trolling and shittalking, us Europeans aren't easily offended but I'd mute Payo if I had to play with him. Jokes are meant to be part of a call/conversation not the entire thing start to finish, at that point its not even a joke, youre just annoying.
There's a reason Payo will always be a 2k viewers Andy
then why did grubby want him in the group? they clearly know eachother from before. it was all fine and dandy until payo made a joke about his shit dps. couldn't even kill first boss before grubby's sensitive ego had enough
@@kewa123 they grouped before for a previous dungeon, and Payo was much less intense during that one, they had fun and got on well.
If you watch Grubbys perspective, you can see the issue started way before the dps comment... Its not even about the nature of the conversation, the trolling or the jokes; its about the sheer amount of them together overwhelming him. If this was softcore then everyone would keep going and laugh it off, but after dying and relevelling to this point he has to consider the risk of wasting another 100-200 hours. Keep in mind, this is Grubby's first WoW experience and he dove straight into hardcore, so the tension is understandably much higher for him.
Edit: Payo did nothing wrong, but Grubby needed clear comms. (And this drama probably wouldnt exist if he just said it that simply)
@@ouodo yea a 2k viewer andy with 6-8k subs average for ages now, lmao. do you even have a clue on what you want to imply here?
"us Europeans"
People with ADHD talk over people they can not help it!
I really like both of you guys but your twitch chat was nasty. Goofing off and trolling is cool, but man your chat are the ones that actually got triggered. Respect to you Payo and Grubby.
Man grubby cant take jokes, always so seriois
Payo was talking like nonstop and disupting communication. Also he was taunting his teammate alot, joke or not its not a good thing for teamplay and concentration. Especially in hardcore it isnt cool at all bc everyone playtime is on the line.
it takes alot to be fair to them when you know youre so much better ppc
PirateSoftware take notes
Who?
hey y te la tu dis?
le fait de pas avoir des bon timming pour parler c'est encore un signe de tdah/ adhd
j'ai pareil lol
Totally cool and responsible
Giga chads all of them! This is how its done!