Basically every subject says it encompasses everything. And I definitely don’t use much of the math skills I was taught in high school. Science encompasses everything: Everything around you is matter. History encompasses everything: It defines who you are and where you come from. To all the people who don’t care about history because it’s all in the past, stop being blind. History is very much about the present and the future also. Geography encompasses everything: It described what our physical world is comprised of, as well as what societies are comprised of. Languages encompass everything: Without them we wouldn’t be able to share knowledge and stories the way we do. It is the way we give meaning to everything we interact with. Philosophy encompasses everything: The subject is about various viewpoints on daily matters, ethical dilemmas and just things like life and existence of people and things in general. Economics encompass everything: Everything around us has some sort of economical value, even if it’s not sold on the market, like oxygen, for example. Politics encompass everything: The decisions from people, be it those in charge of countries, companies, etcetera, or the accumulation of the everyday opinions of the common people define how we design society. Arts encompass everything: They’re an outlet for our feelings, our outlooks on the world, whether they be positive or negative. I think you ought to get the gist of what I mean. Being good at a subject that suits you. A subject you enjoy. *That* is the pathway to being good at anything. There are plenty of things I excel at that don’t involve math. And yes, math in integrated into workplaces and means of education that don’t center around it, but many of my examples are integrated into math. How would you teach math without language? Would math be less or more important if our society was structured differently? Haven’t certain historical inventions paved the path for math as we know it today? The world is a system and subjects are connected to one another in some shape or form. I wasn’t ever horrible at math. I studied at VWO (which is the highest level in the Dutch ‘middelbare school’). It’s just that I excelled at other subjects which I find more. In which my future might lie.
That's not the worst one. The worst one is when they dock you for showing the "wrong work", even when they acknowledge that the work you showed would still get the correct answer.
@@billytringuyen1 yeah but that’s not how it works in the real world, you aren’t going to waste time doing the longer method when you have a shortcut to get the same answer
Specifically in Australia, that is why my dad does not like the education. I found a place in a university in Philippines, they give us marks regardless of our working out.
I remember in middle school that this exact thing happened and I said "That's Bull." no "shit" no "crap", just "bull". and I got heavily punished for it. turns out my teachers repeatedly provoked my actions because of my refusal to be in special education class as an autistic youth, ((I realized how universally infantilizing it was and didn't want to be held back or have it be fuel for being bullied, I was a very defensive traumatized kid.)) They eventually segregated me in detention permanently and attempted to gaslight me by treating it like it was a special thing that I can have my very own place to study without being distracted from other kids. til my mother found out and got super pissed and then enrolled me to a different school because the current school hated me that much for not wanting to conform to their absurdist rules. I never had problems at school after the switch lmfao. I just did all the work and was done no questions asked. I pulled up some records later on that 60% of the graduates and dropouts of that school turned to a life of drugs and crime. including an ex friend who murdered somebody.
No, it was there in the fine print on the very first page in the middle of a bulleted list containing other rules, right above the point that says "You do not need to simplify your answers," which will be ignored by the graders.
Glad this works in university though lmao But the biggest problem is, if your answer isn't correct you will lose all your points. Since... yk. There isn't something to give points on without the extra steps.
@@Adeyum64 Depends on the class, perhaps. As a grad student in math, I've graded calc 1 exams plenty of times. There is some work that they need to show, but our judgement is usually on whether or not we could expect the student to do the work not shown in their heads, or if the work itself is part of the material we're testing you on. Like if we ask you to find local extrema using the first derivative test, you'd better draw a sign chart, because we want to see that you know how to do that.
During my exams there were questions that required you to show your work and you would get marks based on your answer and the work you presented. Obviously because I was better at remembering answers than how to do the work, I missed out on a lot of points.
Same here, if I get the right answer, who cares how I got there. The teacher would relentlessly make us do things their way, and only their way, and it didn’t matter if it was convoluted and stupid and hard and illogical, it still had to be their way and only their way.
@@KumiChan2004 I’m still sore about the teacher saying “it’s not like you’re gonna be able to just carry a calculator around in your pocket all the time”
Brilliant. This brings back some bad memories from my high school days. I had to do several exams over because I kept getting the right answers but always got points deducted for not showing my work, even when I did but they would say the work I showed was incomplete for “not drilling down far enough.” It’s also a stupid thing to teach kids. In real life, arriving to the right answer faster than everyone else with less effort is most certainly a plus not a negative.
Yup, they used to teach "get the right answer" and not they teach 'the method' and you get more points for showing all of your work but getting the wrong answer than they do for you getting the right answer with no work. Your boss DGAF about how you reached the answer, they want the answer and they want it yesterday. School needs to get back to teaching for life not teaching to pad their numbers.
@@Nempo13 FR, if you are ever in a situation where someone you work with needs to know how you did something, they will ask you to tell or show them. You don't need to do it every time, that's inefficient for work ethic if you're dedicating even 20% of your work time into going out of your way to make sure everyone knows how you completed a task.
This is part of why education is declining. The results are the only thing that matters. You can teach the students methods for how to get to the right answer, but if they can get there another way it should be fine as well.
This could actually be a cool concept for a villain, someone who commits crimes but is held back by the compulsion to explain to the heroes how he did it
@@axolotl09 well the riddler is different because he just makes these elaborate games for people to play them, what im saying is that the math teacher makes super convoluted plans but always has to explain exactly how he did it step by step
Hate teachers like that. 'My way only' types. Such dicks. When the teacher that taught you before used a different method. Their profs in college wouldn't have let that kind of attitude fly if they knew.
So relatable but don't even get me started on teachers and professors that fail you because you didn't format your work correctly despite you getting the right answers and proving that you understand the material.
@Morten_Storvik That worked for industrial factory workers, the average person knows what they're supposed to do. Stocking shelves and running a register is something that can be taught.
@@Morten_Storvik "...having structure and discipline..." These objectives are not automatically valid or sufficient. There are better ways to build those qualities in future citizens.
I got my teachers to stop asking me to “show your work” WHICH I ALREADY DID by showing ALL THE WORK. Long division, vertical addition/subtraction, every minute detail we’ve long since been glossing over in algebra, written out in full. When I turned in that assignment, it was a pamphlet. I was never told to show my work again.
So fun fact, multiplication is basically just short form addition. 4X4, is basically just 4+4+4+4. I had exactly one teacher claim the whole "You didn't drill down far enough" on a test. So next test, I grabbed a ton of scratch paper, and basically did a reduction tree for every equation, (ie 4+4=8, and 4+4=8, 8+8=16, 4x4=16), when I handed it in, with all the scratch paper, and asked if that was drilled down far enough, well, she mostly stopped bothering me about the basic shyte
Reminds me of the time I got into an argument with one of my math teacher over “showing my work”, apparently she didn’t understand how anyone could look at 9 squared and instantly know the answer. It took me going to the office and getting the teacher I had the year before to come in and explain how he had his students memorize the squares of 0 to 9 as an exercise for learning exponents. Got my points back and that teacher in particular got a talking to from the rest of the department about “lack of professionalism”, apparently I wasn’t the only student that got points taken off for that.
How tf are you supposed to "show your work" for simple multiplication like that? Like your old teacher said it's literally times tables you either know them or you don't. Did they expect you to write out the times table grid?
@@ada5851 No clue. She kept going on about how I need to write it all out. It was one of those situations where I’m pretty sure the teacher cared more about being in the right.
You could add 9 together 9 times over. This, or make a list adding 9s each time. E.g. 9, 18, 27,... That being said, as a maths teacher, I wouldn't ask you to show working on that kind of problem. Usually it's because we need to know if you understand a specific method, and that method is crucial to more complicated problems in the future, and you not learning it means you'll have no tools to solving such problems
@@avatarmufasa3628 But then again, there is no need to show working out for simplified multiplication. Because if you use that logic, then show me how you add 9 with 9 with 9... etc. to get to 9, 18, 27, 36 etc.
I had this a lot in school. I could do almost all of it in my head, and I was never quite sure how much work was enough. I often got problems wrong because I apparently "didn't show enough." Kinda similar to those dumb, "which of these items doesn't belong?" questions and similar. I could usually find commonalities among most or all of them in some way or another, and I never knew which was the difference they wanted. If I asked the teacher: "Okay, they're all fruits, even the tomato. One out of the five is not a berry. One out of the five isn't round. Out out of the five is a cool color (that is, not red, orange, yellow, or a variant thereof). One out of the five is fuzzy. One out of the five doesn't have an edible peel. One out of five doesn't have edible seeds. But all of the differences are on different items. Which one do you want?" They'd usually call me a smartass and give me a write-up or detention.
For those questions they should have had you find a difference and then state why it is a difference. That way even if a different item is circled than expected the teacher can figure out if the selection is valid.
I confused the heck out of my calculus teacher back in the day. I could not for the life of me remember the formula for one problem (on a test) but I remembered the theory he taught us for how the formula was derived. I made my own formula that I figured was "close enough" and got the right answer. He asked me wtf I was doing there and how I got the right answer. Oh man, the look on his face when I told him, I couldn't remember the formula so I made my own, was just priceless. Oddly enough, I don't think most teachers expect their students to think or reason their way through problems.
Shocking news, most teachers don't. They don't want you to show YOUR work, they want you to write down what they taught you how to do. If you figure out a simpler way to get to the same answer chances are they won't accept it either because 1) they're petty/lazy and don't want to go throught the trouble of checking if you're right or 2) They only memorized that one way of doing it and CAN'T check to see if you're right
What is it with calculus? In limits I had the same problem. Finally, he told me sketch a quick graph show where I am and direction, and that’s how we agreed to get around of show some work. It was so obvious sometimes.
Modern education is not about thinking or reasoning, or coming to a logical conclusion, it is about, rote memorization and doing exactly what you were told without question without thought and without the slightest bit of individual initiative…… do what you are told and only what you are told and don’t think about or question it EVER.
When I was a freshman in high school (back in the late '80s), my teacher told me after class that we weren't supposed to use calculators on our homework. Puzzled at his statement, I told him I didn't use a calculator. The math wasn't particularly complicated, so I did it in my head. He looked me over for a second, picked up a piece of chalk, wrote out a problem on the board, then handed me the chalk. After about two seconds of thinking, I wrote the answer on the board. When the math was complicated enough that I needed to do it long form, I did. When it wasn't, I didn't, and just did it in my head. He was satisfied and never again mentioned it. He was a good teacher and a good human being.
@@erickchristensen746 Well english is not my native langauge or mother tongue or what is the correct expression in english… I’m just learn english but I’m just 17, my english will be better…
This always happens to me, I do the problems on the test easily within the first 5 minutes, then I end up spending the remaining 40 minutes trying to show my work
@@ImTotallyInked you need to show your work on how your neurons established reading and writing in order for you to type this text then explain why you came to this conclusion on the 3 lines at the bottom of the page if you fail to exceed 5 paragraphs you'll automatically fail the test you must do this in less than 20 minutes cause we'll be going over the homework for this assignment too and it is required for this class so you can understand the curriculum if you want to pass the exam in 2 weeks
I like to be a dick when it comes to drawing graphs for homework. I'll sometimes set interval markers for 10 or 20, so I don't have to draw huge graphs. But the graphs are also often scrunched up and make things difficult for teachers to grade.
I know that feeling. I tried doing it once, got ten problems in, and quit. I graduated 1987, so no pocket calculator then. Teacher suggested I was cheating 'somehow', but never said how. I made it a point to get the closest desk to her desk, every day after that, and told her to catch me cheating, if she was so sure. She couldn't, because I wasn't. It was just the little 'math widget' in my head that popped out correct answers when I understood the way the formulae worked.
@@vilagistene2939Stop calling it illegal. You clearly have some type of trauma from school that you not only call it illegal but also don't know what illegal means.
I remember when I was young, there was a girl who was doing a presentation to the class and the teacher basically stated that she didn't show her work. She replied him "You are supposed to already know how I got that answer. You're a teacher after all".
You show your work by having sex with your spouse again. One of you gets pregnant. Nine months later, back at the hospital, and you have to show your work again...
man going from a school system that was "show work or else I lose marks" to "you don't need to show work but it'll save you marks if you get the final answer wrong" is a blessing.
I particularly like this. Showing work definitely needs to be incentivized as it can help diagnose problems in misunderstanding. But punishing people who can just do it is definitely wrong.
I visualise the answer exactly as I write it, am I supposed to show all the splitting up and rounding up and down and addition/subtraction i do and all the time wasting rubbish my brain rushes through in .2 seconds?
Middle school teachers: "Show your work or you'll lose points in college" College professors: *gives you full marks when you simplify a 23 term triple integral in one step because it literally doesn't matter how you did it*
Yeah, high school teachers hyping up college like the professors are going to be far stricter. I found out quickly that most of the teachers are far more laid back.
reminds me of one of my general remarks about college: I wish I had gone to college instead of public school. College is based on practical behavior whereas public school... pretty much all of it is just memorizing stuff.
This is so damn true it hurts,many years ago my middle school immediately began failing me on the first quarterly report card simply because I failed to show how I got my answer on anything & trying to say I did it in my head resulted in 0 points. Yet my mother began homeschooling me instead,letting me do work my way & I got my GED the very same day I turned age 16 finishing school way earlier than I should have
@@notmo. A lot of them, yes. That group is there because they don't have any real talents in anything. Teaching at least lets them feel superior to someone, and gets them respect from someone. Some are actually good at teaching, but those are a minority, and the rest are there for the ego trip they get from the idea of teaching kids stuff. Not always the correct stuff, either.
@@johnrussell5592But where do you live? Who respect their teachers in 21. Century? I just Tell of my all teachers that they can f-ck themselves… and it’s happened in Hungary a really very conservative country. In western-Europe it’s just normal day. You had rights!!!
I have had both good and bad teachers when it comes to showing your work. The good ones make it clear both what constitutes “showing work” and that showing it will be part of the grade during the test. The bad ones skip showing their work during the lectures and don’t tell you that they expect you to show work until you receive the graded test.
Most of my math teachers so far tell me to show my work if I want however they strongly suggest we show our work because they will still give us half the points if we did the equation correctly but messed up on a small part.
I agree. Ive actually had a teacher tell us to "show our work" when there was literally nothing to show. It was thankfully homework, but it took me 4 hours yo figure out a good way to simply my work to a reasonable standard. Some were basic one step multiplication, so I just added that number on the paper. Then there was some addition, so I sat there and wrote out every single 1. Multication with fractions? Turned them into whole numbers using the GCF, put them together, then divided by the GCF. Subtraction? Minus 1. Division... Don't ask. Exponents? Multiplication. Roots? I skipped the work and just took a picture of my calculator and taped it to the paper of course, because teachers don't tell you how to do those and the internet doesn't even remember from where I've looked. Word problems? I literally spelled it out to them. After all of that work... I got 1 bonus point for excessive effort and learned that they weren't trying to be that literal about it.
Exponents? Multiplication. Roots? You didn't look hard enough, or didn't use the right terms in your google search. I had to know how to do all of those things by hand when I graduated HS in 1987.
@@johnrussell5592 Honestly, I believe every word you just said. I'm actually very bad at looking things up. Anyways, I kinda wish they still taught us how to do some of these by hand in this day of age.
@@theonomaly6389 I spent several years perfecting my google-fu (not called that then) in the late nineties, doing research with the several search engines available at the local university library. Once the desk people saw how serious I was, they started helping me understand the importance of which words in what order, and association. I laugh my ass off think back how those short-sighted teachers told us 'there is no guarantee that you will always have a calculator with you, so you need to know how to do this on paper with a pencil'. There were students walking around with the basic 8088 chip, from the first round of build-it-yourself home computers strapped to their wrists since 1975, and had just gotten high school affordable in 82'. I remember watching as classmates were told they had to take their watches off for tests. I knew that it was just a matter of time then, and as soon as the scientific calculators became relatively inexpensive (thanks Texas Instruments) and widely available, the focus of high school math departments switched to teaching the student how to work the calculator to get the answers.
I remember the first day of learning long division in 3rd grade. And this was 63 years ago! I breezed through all of the problems on the mimeographed (remember - 1960 or 1961) sheet of paper. I just wrote down all of the answers I got in my head, and they did turn out to be all correct. Now, in my case, the teacher did give me a grade of 100 or however she expressed it. So maybe if there were 20 problems, I got a 20. But she also wrote, "Show your work," on the paper. Well, I was so full of myself and pumped up with pride over getting all of this new type of problem correct that I thought she meant something like I should take it on an exhibition tour, maybe bring it around to all of the other classrooms in the school, to show my great work on this assignment. I figured, though, that I'd better ask her what she meant, and she said that she wanted me to show all of the steps in future problem sets. Oh.
My math teacher always wanted to see our work for every problem. There were several of us who protested this crazy requirement. He had a big discussion with us one day, and it was ultimately concluded that our everyday adult lives aren't going to involve worked-out math problems, and that showing our work for every single problem probably won't improve our math skills much. He stopped requiring us to show our work, but we were the only class that was allowed to do so, and we weren't allowed to alert other math students that we didn't have to show our work. He told us that each class had to "rebel" on their own and have the same kind of discussion we had with him. I don't think any of the other classes ever got out of having to show their work, but I wouldn't know since no one was allowed to talk about it, and if we did, the requirement would be put back into place.
You know, this may be one of the many small things that make students uninterested in giving a damn. I've been told this many times, and looking back, the "show your work or you get a lesser grade/ it won't count" is similar to a narcissistic tendency to make someone do what they say. Narcissistic tendencies ruin bright young, as well as old, minds.
It isn't necessarily down to just ego at all. Used properly there is a reason to show the working. One is to give points even if you get the wrong answer. Another (in work that doesn't count for grades) is to make sure you understand how to do the process. Arguably a lot of high school level maths is about the process of logical thinking than it is the correct answer. Also some people are able to get the right answer on exercises by accident (or cheating) and then not understand how do it when they get to the real test. A teacher should never think about just the best students and should be trying to assist all of them. Plus there are many fields of study later on where having a record of your work is vital - so you can see what you did, and allow others to do so. Scientists routinely have to show proof of their work in journals, so it is a good habit to get into and is another skill. Don't immediately assume they are wrong simply because you are unable to think of a reason why this might actually be used.
@@steves1015 who care about 1 correct answer by accident ? thats not going to get them far if they mess the rest.......copying other students doesn't mean they be copying a smart student, basicly shooting themselve in the foot...also a teacher could force students to take different seats every months to see if some students result change if they got any doubth..... also i'd argue that easy math problem should not require proof...give long equations to solve if you want students to do actual writing on how they solve it...too basic stuff and having to show proof just feel like extra work for no reason...just for say maths were a complete joke to me when back in school....addition,substraction,multiplication.....all easy..division is a bit more complexe as you get in things like 0.4....also i had a math problem showing just that a 0.x during my first time in a math class(25 years ago approx when i was 8 old)....teacher and parents had NOT taught me what a 0.X meant so that was something i could not solve but for the rest easy get to the answers..i think i learn what 0.X meant around fourth grade(took some years b4 teachers talk about those so not sure why i was getting maths with it in if teacher weren't teaching it :S).........also apparently school system change a bit in regard to when they teach certain things....are multiplications like a first grade thing now ? or is it still third/fourth grade along divisions ?
A good teacher clarifies what you do to show your work and gives credit for both the work and the answer. Makes you feel better when you get 80% of the points for just writing out the work even if you messed up and got a wrong answer
What work here needs to be done except for writing the correct answer? It is not an ancient Egypt where you have to place stone on a pile to show how you did your work. In Poland where I was learning math teacher called us saying numbers to count and within 3 sec we had to give an answer. It was done since 1st grade. In front of class. What is also a real problem at schools is math problems are written in such confusing way that even adults struggle to figure out what is the question about.
@@lubystkaolamonola529 in math and science the proccess is very important to how you obtained the answer, besides being simply more able to identify flaws in your math, being able to write it out helps out with programming such math into systems as well.
That said, realistically in the real world getting the right answer is far more important than showing improper work. If you get the wrong answer when working a job, your boss isn't going to give a crap if you showed your work.
These teachers can also be a blessing. One time, I didn't know the answer to almost all of the questions, but I basically guessed how do them, showed my work, and got an A-
77 years old, Combat veteran of Vietnam; several bad marriages; Cancer; several dangerous occupations, including high-steel rigging; faced down the barrel of a gun; as well as assorted other trauma. But what do I have nightmares about? F'ing High School and that somehow, I have to go back to pick up something I missed for graduation. Every time.
Samo samo. For me it was JC math classes. I aspired to be an Aerospace Engineer and fighter pilot. I was average in the slide rule, but couldn't advance for the showing work issue. Life took a different path, Asia in 69 courtesy of Uncle Sam.
the worst part is when you see something from your classmate and they get full points on a question that _really_ required elaboration and yet they did _none_ of it 😭
How to do 81 + 1 1. Basic Addition: At its core, (81 + 1) is a straightforward addition problem. [ 81 + 1 = 82 ]This is the simplest and most direct approach.2. Representation in Expanded Form:Let's express 81 and 1 in expanded form and then add: ( 81) can be expanded as (80 + 1). (1) remains (1).Now, add the components:[ (80 + 1) +1=80 + (1 + 1) =80 + 2 = 8213. Using Properties of Addition (Commutativity and Associativity) :Commutative Property states that (a + b = b + a ).Associative Property states that ( (a + b) + c = a + (b + c) ).Let's use both properties: [ 81 + 1 = 1 + 81 = 1 + (80 + 1) = (1 + 1) + 80 = 2 + 80 = 82]4. Using the Number Line:Consider a number line from 0 to 100. Starting at 81:Moving 1 unit to the right will land you at 82.5. Binary Representation:Let's convert the numbers to binary and perform binary addition. ( 81) in binary: (1010001_2)(1) in binary: (0000001_2 )Perform binary addition:[ 1010001_2 + 0000001_2 = 1010010_2 ]Convert ( 1010010_2) back to decimal:[ 1010010_2 = 82_{10} 16. Algebraic Approach:Let ( x = 81) and (y = 1). Then (x + y = 81 + 1 = 82).7. Geometric Interpretation:If you were to consider a square with side length 9 (since (81 = 9^2)), adding 1 to this could be visualized as increasing the area by a unit square, although geometrically it doesn't change the square's dimensions.8. Using Modular Arithmetic:Consider the operation (81 + 1) modulo some number:For example, modulo 100:[ (81 + 1) \mod 100 = 82 \mod 100 = 82 19. Using a Recursive Sequence:Imagine a sequence defined as: [a_n = a_ín-1} + 1, ltext{ with } a_0 = 81 ]Then:[ a_1 = 81 + 1 = 82 110. Calculus Context (for fun):Consider the function (f(x) = x + 1) at (x = 81):[ f(81) = 81 + 1 = 82 ]Conclusion:Through various mathematical lenses, the solution remains consistent: [ 81 + 1 = 82 ]
The worst is when you actually DO show your work, and they STILL tell you to show your work. I got 60s through my ENTIRE time in high-school math because of this.
@@youtubehandlesrgarbage sounds about right. I failed a test because I figured out a better way to do a certain unit than what we were taught, even though I got every answer right.
@@randompoet9997 I had a similar thing happen. The teacher then told me it wasn't about finding the easiest way for solving that particular problem, but for learning & practising a particular method that would be useful later in math.
One of my math teachers had a rule that if we didn't show our work but got the question correct, we'd get full points. If we got the question incorrect, we'd get no points. HOWEVER, if we showed our work but got the question wrong, he'd give half points because he can see exactly where we went wrong. He knew we put in the effort and ALMOST got there, so we got half points for getting halfway. He was my favorite math teacher.
Yeah I refuse to follow a career involving math and book reading because I had dickhead teachers that act like this and then wonder why they don't get paid.
As a teacher, showing work can be very beneficial for figuring out where a student is potentially going wrong and/pr how a student thinks. However, many teachers take it wayyy too far.
Also the problem could have an answer that somebody might get right with a guess. For example, the mean of a set of numbers, the student could look at them and estimate it will be 30 something and randomly write down 34 and that happens to be right.
Fun fact: Depending on which country/state in said country you're from, it's illegal for a school or teacher to give you less of a grade for not showing your working out as getting the right answer is much more important than showing how you got it. One such place would be Queensland, Australia just as an example.
That’s actually kinda good. Why the hell would kids NEED to show how they got the answer? It’s just such an insignificant detail, yet some teachers hyperfocuse so much on it. PS: It isn’t illegal in my country.
That's a shame. If I as a teacher want to prepare a lesson, and it requires pre knowledge of a certain method. I will be hard pressed to know whether a student actually is ready to understand the material, because they didn't use the method outlined in class. E.g. using trial and error to solve simultaneous equations. Instead of being able to use addition, subtraction, multiplication and division to manipulate both sides to get the result I'd argue method marks are there to help your own learning. Getting a high score (whilst within the learning environment of the school) is less important to me as a teacher
@@avatarmufasa3628 Disclosing to the students that they have to show their work to show they understand a specific method would solve this issue. It's when teachers assume you're copying or otherwise cheating that it gets annoying.
@@JohnWilson-hc5wq I do, it doesnt solve the issue. If anyone goes back to school, youd be shocked at how poorly students tend to follow instructions. Theres a huge bias towards a child not paying as much attention, or wanting to get away with writing less. A lot of the time in lessons, youll hear "why?", and a huge part of wanting to do it in your head really is a basis of not wanting to bother writing it down because the child doesnt think they need to. Ive literally had to coach specific students step by step, having them write down each line, and slowly but surely had them grasp it. I dont nescessarilly assume cheating, though I do go over papers and do check the work, and sometimes, some answers are both wrong, and in such a weird way and you know they sit next to each other and caught glimpses of them looking, that yes I have called out cheating. That being said though, the anti-cheating idea isnt my main reason for wanting students to write down the method. Thats just a bonus. My reason is purely down to that childs capacity to justify their answers. Writing down the answer is merely an assertion, and if we are to break down multi step problems, then writing it down the method is essential Its hard though. Students have to go through so much at school, and with 30+ class sizes, it gets hard for the student to have the attention they need to really help the develop their skills. All whilst having to listen to an individual who is underpayed and probably is just not handling it perfectly with 100 things on their plate
I have ADHD, so the fact that I have to waste time "showing my work" instead of doing the next parts of the test is why I score so low despite how much I love science.
Oh man, that hits me on a spiritual level. From elementary to college, I always had at least one or several teachers every year who did this shit. Answering the exact same as taught in class and ending up with 60% as the highest grade of the class because "not enough development"... Some teachers are complete jokes.
When I got asked to show my work back in highschool, a lot of the time I'd just answer normally, and scribble some 'work' on the paper to show to the teacher, even if it didn't really lead to the answer I put down. It worked about half the time.
I always had a feeling they don't even check the work themselves. I guess the best option is to just make it look right so when they skim over it while grading they think it's right
I had a teacher that tried to do this to me. I went to the principal they gave me an option of doing a small quiz that the teacher could make to prove that I was doing it all in my head and not cheating. If I got done in ten minutes and got at least half right the teacher could no longer fail me for not showing work. Quiz was 30 questions and fairly hard for average students in that grade. I got 100% and got done in less than 5 minutes all with her looking over my shoulder. The look on her face was priceless.😂 she was so mad.
And there in gives you the answer of why this is a requirement. A teacher looks after many students, it is difficult enough to mark all the work and write out corrections, without having to try and figure out who is cheating and who is genuinely good at maths. It is much harder to spot cheating in maths than in, say, English. Some teachers admittedly take it too far, but these days in particular, if a student fails (e.g. because in all of the term work they just copied the answer and then couldn't do the real tests) then it is the teacher's fault first, and they will be interrogated.
@@steves1015you would have a point if it wasn’t for the fact that I was the only person that did it in their head that got punished for doing it in my head. There were 4 others in the class that never showed work either and they always got the credit when they answered correctly.
The pain when my Igneous and Metamorphic Petrology teacher actually wanted a paragraph explaining my work, on top of showing it. An instruction he didn't even write on the test.
When I was in HS this happened to me. I brought the councilor into the class and she had the teacher pull a problem out of the book at random that I wrote on the chalkboard in front of my class and I got it right without showing any work, just the answer. I insisted on doing a few more to prove it was not a fluke. She changed my zero to a 70 (the lowest possible passing grade) and I was happy. I proved my point. I passed math and graduated. Math is teaching you problem solving a there are many different ways to solve a problem.
I don't mind showing work; you need to be able to prove that you understand why a solution is the solution. What I didn't like is when teachers insisted that I show my work a particular way. I could prove a solution, but if it's not the specific proof they were looking for, they'd mark it off. That shows some teachers don't understand the whole point behind showing work.
The teacher at the end knew he didn't really need to show his workings, he was just really lonely and felt the only way to get over it was by watching his student's sex tape
LOL had to deal with this at one point. Teacher wasn't amused when I decided to be a smartass and wrote a pile of computer code as my "Work" funny thing is if you compiled the program I wrote out it would actually give the correct answer.
Fun fact: I actually failed math last year bc I didn’t “show my work” Like my fellow human being, one of the questions was more or less “5^x = 25, find x”
Well... not that it will help anyone cause 2+2=4 is pretty standard, but if you need to show your work... 1=>0 1+1=>1=2 1+2=>2=3 2+2=>3=4 2+2=4 They might raise an eyebrow at the expressions used, but it's technically not wrong.
I once failed a math test despite being the only one in the class with every correct answer and I even threw in a bonus better answer where I optimized a better solution than the teacher on one problem but I didn't show "enough" work, they wanted like paragraphs explaining everything and we weren't supposed to know about algebra yet.
How do you write a paragraph about numbers? They're numbers. At the very best I'll write other numbers to explain them, but this is math class not english class.
I remember those days when I had to show my work in math class. As a student, I got to learn how to do mental math, develop speedy ways to get the correct answer, and do basic arithmetic faster than other people could punch numbers into a calculator outside of the classroom, but inside the classroom, I did not get to override my teacher and I would do anything to get an A in the class, so I did not care if my way was faster than the teacher's way or not. I just did what I was suppose to do. I may have been able to beat a calculator at basic multiplication, division, and such, but that did not matter. I still needed to show my work and that is what I did, the teacher's way and I have a life lesson to teach, geared for people who are in school: respect your teachers. Your way may or may not be smarter than your teacher's way, but either way, as a student, you do not get to override your teacher. If you want to challenge your teacher, you may do that later as a former student who has already made the grade. Also, do not get me started on any video proof of me going faster than a calculator. I did that in the nineties and we did not have RUclips in those days. What we had were VHS tapes and those things were not cheap. Also, nobody that I had encountered ever wanted to carry a large peek hole thing over their shoulders that would appear to be a giant, compared to the cameras we have today, except durring special occasions and such.
my entire elementary life and some of my middle school life was a curse because the teachers said "show your work" so much and even discouraged doing math in your head to where i had to do everything on paper if it came to two digits obviously i’m not that brain dead anymore but my gosh my teachers encouraged showing work the wrong way lol
I had this one teacher who gave me all marks if I got it correct with no working. If I got it wrong he'd still count the working if I put it. That was pretty fair.
This kinda works the other way too. Like when I "solved" a triangle side because it was obvious in a checkered notebook one side of a triangle is double the length of another. I didn't know how to show it with math so i skipped a few steps and my teacher assumed it was obvious to me, got an A.
As a math enthusiast myself, the worst part about school math is that sometimes it's incredibly rigid. I can't give a general solution, but my personal approach to being told to use a method is to instead use a completely different, overcomplicated, yet completely valid and arguably more impressive method. You need me to find the minimum of a parabola? Derivative. Need the midpoint of a triangle in cartesian coordinates? Complex numbers. Calculate 3+2? Prove my result via ZFC.
In 3rd grade, my teacher told me that I need to show my work on the next test or she wouldn't grade it at all So, being the very literal person I am, on the next test I ended up putting painstaking detail into describing my every thought process on how I solved the problem. After an hour my teacher said "time's up!" And I cried out "But I haven't even finished the first question!!!" My teacher, bewildered, came to look at my test and saw I had been writing a literal essay about how to solve the first problem in the margins of the test, I even ran out of room on the first page and was nearly out of room on the whole test. She told me I could retake it later and never required me to show my work again cause she was cool like that 🤣 She did, however, tell me that for future reference many teachers like it when you write out the equations instead of doing everything in your head. So I begrudgingly agreed to try doing that sometimes
This is a problem a lot of autistic people face in school. It happened to me a few times, mostly because I either forgot to do that part, or I wasn't sure how to make it more simple than it already was.
Oh. Interesting. I had this problem, and I also have autism. Maybe there is something going on. I am good with science, math and computers. I actually find those subjects to be relatively easy. Social studies is a lot tougher. English and foreign language are the most difficult. Autism has a different way of thinking. There is more ability in having attention to detail and diving deep into specialized topics. Autism can come with really strong reading skills. This is called hyperlexia. I wonder if this kind of mind would also be strong at math. Math seems to align with that, due to its logical nature. Maybe this special math ability can be called "hypercalcula".
I always hated when they want me to show them my work. That's the same as if them asking me to reveal my secrets, those secrets are securely kept I ain't just gonna revealed them.
Bro math is about finding the solution no matter the route you take. As long as you got the right answer it should count. SO WHY TF DO WE HAVE TO SHOW OUR GODDAMN WORK?
I remember being one of the best in maths (I decided to be on a lower set to have a guaranteed pass during my final year) my teacher always brought up showing working out and I told her I don't do that because I only have an hour to finish a test and I ain't wasting my time explaining something a 7 year old should be able to understand and if I did show working out it's something that actually needed to be worked out
To be fair it's not because they think you didn't get the easy questions right or even the hard ones right in your head it's because they know in the future you'll be more successful in life if you instinctively write down how you got to the conclusion. If you want a job they need to see you're qualified not hear you're qualified... if you want to be a teacher saying the answer won't teach the students you need to show them.... it you want to be a banker you need to keep records of certain finances not say you did in your head... Would you rather someone slam a plate of food down and say, copy this or teach you how they made it?
being good at math is a blessing and a curse
you can do it in your head but you forget to show your work
Being not very great at math is a blessing. I got to do something else after high school.
@@jarmoliebrand2005maths literally encompasses everything. Being good at it, is a pathway to being good at anything
Basically every subject says it encompasses everything. And I definitely don’t use much of the math skills I was taught in high school.
Science encompasses everything: Everything around you is matter.
History encompasses everything: It defines who you are and where you come from. To all the people who don’t care about history because it’s all in the past, stop being blind. History is very much about the present and the future also.
Geography encompasses everything: It described what our physical world is comprised of, as well as what societies are comprised of.
Languages encompass everything: Without them we wouldn’t be able to share knowledge and stories the way we do. It is the way we give meaning to everything we interact with.
Philosophy encompasses everything: The subject is about various viewpoints on daily matters, ethical dilemmas and just things like life and existence of people and things in general.
Economics encompass everything: Everything around us has some sort of economical value, even if it’s not sold on the market, like oxygen, for example.
Politics encompass everything: The decisions from people, be it those in charge of countries, companies, etcetera, or the accumulation of the everyday opinions of the common people define how we design society.
Arts encompass everything: They’re an outlet for our feelings, our outlooks on the world, whether they be positive or negative.
I think you ought to get the gist of what I mean.
Being good at a subject that suits you. A subject you enjoy. *That* is the pathway to being good at anything. There are plenty of things I excel at that don’t involve math. And yes, math in integrated into workplaces and means of education that don’t center around it, but many of my examples are integrated into math. How would you teach math without language? Would math be less or more important if our society was structured differently? Haven’t certain historical inventions paved the path for math as we know it today?
The world is a system and subjects are connected to one another in some shape or form.
I wasn’t ever horrible at math. I studied at VWO (which is the highest level in the Dutch ‘middelbare school’). It’s just that I excelled at other subjects which I find more. In which my future might lie.
Yeah..
i am 50% confident this was typed by a redditor gifted kid.
That's not the worst one. The worst one is when they dock you for showing the "wrong work", even when they acknowledge that the work you showed would still get the correct answer.
I hate that, I failed a test in algebra 2 once because I “didn’t do it the right way” despite getting the correct answers on most of the problems
ya they wants you to use the equation they taught you, no shortcut and stuff
@@billytringuyen1 yeah but that’s not how it works in the real world, you aren’t going to waste time doing the longer method when you have a shortcut to get the same answer
Specifically in Australia, that is why my dad does not like the education. I found a place in a university in Philippines, they give us marks regardless of our working out.
I remember in middle school that this exact thing happened and I said "That's Bull." no "shit" no "crap", just "bull". and I got heavily punished for it. turns out my teachers repeatedly provoked my actions because of my refusal to be in special education class as an autistic youth, ((I realized how universally infantilizing it was and didn't want to be held back or have it be fuel for being bullied, I was a very defensive traumatized kid.)) They eventually segregated me in detention permanently and attempted to gaslight me by treating it like it was a special thing that I can have my very own place to study without being distracted from other kids. til my mother found out and got super pissed and then enrolled me to a different school because the current school hated me that much for not wanting to conform to their absurdist rules.
I never had problems at school after the switch lmfao. I just did all the work and was done no questions asked.
I pulled up some records later on that 60% of the graduates and dropouts of that school turned to a life of drugs and crime. including an ex friend who murdered somebody.
The funniest part is that the test never explicitly stated you had to show your work.
No, it was there in the fine print on the very first page in the middle of a bulleted list containing other rules, right above the point that says "You do not need to simplify your answers," which will be ignored by the graders.
Glad this works in university though lmao
But the biggest problem is, if your answer isn't correct you will lose all your points. Since... yk. There isn't something to give points on without the extra steps.
@@Adeyum64 Depends on the class, perhaps. As a grad student in math, I've graded calc 1 exams plenty of times. There is some work that they need to show, but our judgement is usually on whether or not we could expect the student to do the work not shown in their heads, or if the work itself is part of the material we're testing you on. Like if we ask you to find local extrema using the first derivative test, you'd better draw a sign chart, because we want to see that you know how to do that.
During my exams there were questions that required you to show your work and you would get marks based on your answer and the work you presented. Obviously because I was better at remembering answers than how to do the work, I missed out on a lot of points.
@@ExplosiveBrohoof So based on your opinion of how smart a child is??
Teachers like this made me go from loving math to hating it and falling behind because I lost interest in trying to prove myself
Teachers like this are why I hate math and book reading.
Same here, if I get the right answer, who cares how I got there. The teacher would relentlessly make us do things their way, and only their way, and it didn’t matter if it was convoluted and stupid and hard and illogical, it still had to be their way and only their way.
@@Matt-yg8ub
Then we grow up and realize that the way you get to the answer doesn't matter.
All that matters is the results.
@@KumiChan2004 I’m still sore about the teacher saying “it’s not like you’re gonna be able to just carry a calculator around in your pocket all the time”
@@Matt-yg8ub
Little did they know.
Brilliant. This brings back some bad memories from my high school days. I had to do several exams over because I kept getting the right answers but always got points deducted for not showing my work, even when I did but they would say the work I showed was incomplete for “not drilling down far enough.” It’s also a stupid thing to teach kids. In real life, arriving to the right answer faster than everyone else with less effort is most certainly a plus not a negative.
That's gonna be a pain for me one day😰☠️
Yup, they used to teach "get the right answer" and not they teach 'the method' and you get more points for showing all of your work but getting the wrong answer than they do for you getting the right answer with no work.
Your boss DGAF about how you reached the answer, they want the answer and they want it yesterday. School needs to get back to teaching for life not teaching to pad their numbers.
@@Nempo13 FR, if you are ever in a situation where someone you work with needs to know how you did something, they will ask you to tell or show them. You don't need to do it every time, that's inefficient for work ethic if you're dedicating even 20% of your work time into going out of your way to make sure everyone knows how you completed a task.
This is part of why education is declining. The results are the only thing that matters. You can teach the students methods for how to get to the right answer, but if they can get there another way it should be fine as well.
I’ve lived by the principles of “work smarter not harder” simple solutions are simple I shouldn’t have to waste my time explaining the method
THIS IS SO TRUE, BRO I HATE WHEN THEY SAY THAT.💀
FR 💀
I understand why showing your work is important shows that you actually know how to get the question
Teachers: Show your work.
Bosses: I don't care how, just get it done.
@@Jollofmuncher2000I hate to be this guy but… “☝️🤓”
@@Jollofmuncher2000
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This could actually be a cool concept for a villain, someone who commits crimes but is held back by the compulsion to explain to the heroes how he did it
so the riddler basically?
@@axolotl09 well the riddler is different because he just makes these elaborate games for people to play them, what im saying is that the math teacher makes super convoluted plans but always has to explain exactly how he did it step by step
So every Bond villain, basically?
So basically every supervillain monologue every
The lack of ability to explain my motives and my thought process is the main reason why I don't do more bad stuff. 😅😅
I showed my work and still got told it was wrong, because I didn't do it the way the teacher told us. Yet all of my answers were correct.
Hate teachers like that. 'My way only' types. Such dicks. When the teacher that taught you before used a different method. Their profs in college wouldn't have let that kind of attitude fly if they knew.
Thats is infinitwly worse and if that happened to me i would break an ink pen on the teachers book
Talk about teachers stifling creativity.
F for this comment for not showing a proof
My math teacher did not care about the work. Only the results. This is the real life lesson.
So relatable but don't even get me started on teachers and professors that fail you because you didn't format your work correctly despite you getting the right answers and proving that you understand the material.
I'm fully convinced this only started becoming a thing to prove if students were cheating on exams.
The essence of college level "English" class. 50% for completely correct MLA formatting, lol.
You`re supposed to do it the way you are told in order to train up having structure and dicipline, which is important in the workplace.
@Morten_Storvik That worked for industrial factory workers, the average person knows what they're supposed to do. Stocking shelves and running a register is something that can be taught.
@@Morten_Storvik "...having structure and discipline..."
These objectives are not automatically valid or sufficient. There are better ways to build those qualities in future citizens.
I got my teachers to stop asking me to “show your work” WHICH I ALREADY DID by showing ALL THE WORK. Long division, vertical addition/subtraction, every minute detail we’ve long since been glossing over in algebra, written out in full. When I turned in that assignment, it was a pamphlet.
I was never told to show my work again.
Bro you roasted them in 2000 different ways 💀
Malicious compliance at its finest.
nuh uh forgot to show your work to know the story is real
So fun fact, multiplication is basically just short form addition. 4X4, is basically just 4+4+4+4. I had exactly one teacher claim the whole "You didn't drill down far enough" on a test. So next test, I grabbed a ton of scratch paper, and basically did a reduction tree for every equation, (ie 4+4=8, and 4+4=8, 8+8=16, 4x4=16), when I handed it in, with all the scratch paper, and asked if that was drilled down far enough, well, she mostly stopped bothering me about the basic shyte
@@TheMariusDarkwolfaddition is repeated counting. You failed by not showing that work going into the addition.
A teacher saying “show your work” is like a death sentence
yes for them, after you shove the test down their troat
You have to right call the police for childabuse! If you don’t want show your work then you don’t need! It’s a basic human right.
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"Causing Death And Preventing Trust
Cause D.A.P.T
@@Bluecupcake_funko7 ahhh i get this as a bfdi:tpot its the full name for death pact (death prevention and creating trust) but completely opposite
Last time I was asked to show my work, I just drew a picture of a human brain, and connected it to the answer with a thinking bubble.
Gotta love sarcasm
@@animebrat76yup
Genius
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Reminds me of the time I got into an argument with one of my math teacher over “showing my work”, apparently she didn’t understand how anyone could look at 9 squared and instantly know the answer. It took me going to the office and getting the teacher I had the year before to come in and explain how he had his students memorize the squares of 0 to 9 as an exercise for learning exponents. Got my points back and that teacher in particular got a talking to from the rest of the department about “lack of professionalism”, apparently I wasn’t the only student that got points taken off for that.
How tf are you supposed to "show your work" for simple multiplication like that? Like your old teacher said it's literally times tables you either know them or you don't. Did they expect you to write out the times table grid?
@@ada5851 No clue. She kept going on about how I need to write it all out. It was one of those situations where I’m pretty sure the teacher cared more about being in the right.
@@TheGary108 Oh well. University/college math is great cause everything is multiple choice lol.
You could add 9 together 9 times over. This, or make a list adding 9s each time. E.g. 9, 18, 27,...
That being said, as a maths teacher, I wouldn't ask you to show working on that kind of problem. Usually it's because we need to know if you understand a specific method, and that method is crucial to more complicated problems in the future, and you not learning it means you'll have no tools to solving such problems
@@avatarmufasa3628 But then again, there is no need to show working out for simplified multiplication. Because if you use that logic, then show me how you add 9 with 9 with 9... etc. to get to 9, 18, 27, 36 etc.
I had this a lot in school. I could do almost all of it in my head, and I was never quite sure how much work was enough. I often got problems wrong because I apparently "didn't show enough."
Kinda similar to those dumb, "which of these items doesn't belong?" questions and similar. I could usually find commonalities among most or all of them in some way or another, and I never knew which was the difference they wanted. If I asked the teacher: "Okay, they're all fruits, even the tomato. One out of the five is not a berry. One out of the five isn't round. Out out of the five is a cool color (that is, not red, orange, yellow, or a variant thereof). One out of the five is fuzzy. One out of the five doesn't have an edible peel. One out of five doesn't have edible seeds. But all of the differences are on different items. Which one do you want?" They'd usually call me a smartass and give me a write-up or detention.
For those questions they should have had you find a difference and then state why it is a difference. That way even if a different item is circled than expected the teacher can figure out if the selection is valid.
I confused the heck out of my calculus teacher back in the day. I could not for the life of me remember the formula for one problem (on a test) but I remembered the theory he taught us for how the formula was derived. I made my own formula that I figured was "close enough" and got the right answer. He asked me wtf I was doing there and how I got the right answer. Oh man, the look on his face when I told him, I couldn't remember the formula so I made my own, was just priceless. Oddly enough, I don't think most teachers expect their students to think or reason their way through problems.
Shocking news, most teachers don't. They don't want you to show YOUR work, they want you to write down what they taught you how to do. If you figure out a simpler way to get to the same answer chances are they won't accept it either because 1) they're petty/lazy and don't want to go throught the trouble of checking if you're right or 2) They only memorized that one way of doing it and CAN'T check to see if you're right
I think most teachers just think students are extremely dumb and idiotic. That they need to be treated like babies.
If you really made your own formula.. Wow 😮
What is it with calculus? In limits I had the same problem. Finally, he told me sketch a quick graph show where I am and direction, and that’s how we agreed to get around of show some work. It was so obvious sometimes.
Modern education is not about thinking or reasoning, or coming to a logical conclusion, it is about, rote memorization and doing exactly what you were told without question without thought and without the slightest bit of individual initiative…… do what you are told and only what you are told and don’t think about or question it EVER.
When I was a freshman in high school (back in the late '80s), my teacher told me after class that we weren't supposed to use calculators on our homework. Puzzled at his statement, I told him I didn't use a calculator. The math wasn't particularly complicated, so I did it in my head. He looked me over for a second, picked up a piece of chalk, wrote out a problem on the board, then handed me the chalk. After about two seconds of thinking, I wrote the answer on the board. When the math was complicated enough that I needed to do it long form, I did. When it wasn't, I didn't, and just did it in my head. He was satisfied and never again mentioned it. He was a good teacher and a good human being.
Now, that is a decent teacher!
If only teachers were that great today.
All they do is bitch about money and don’t hardly try to teach
He wasn’t I mean homework? Really? Exist a child in the world who him/herself do the homework and not their parents??
@@vilagistene2939
You need to take some writing and sentence structure lesson. Because that was god awful to read.
@@erickchristensen746 Well english is not my native langauge or mother tongue or what is the correct expression in english… I’m just learn english but I’m just 17, my english will be better…
This always happens to me, I do the problems on the test easily within the first 5 minutes, then I end up spending the remaining 40 minutes trying to show my work
you need to show your work on how you wrote this comment
@@ImTotallyInked you need to show your work on how your neurons established reading and writing in order for you to type this text then explain why you came to this conclusion on the 3 lines at the bottom of the page if you fail to exceed 5 paragraphs you'll automatically fail the test you must do this in less than 20 minutes cause we'll be going over the homework for this assignment too and it is required for this class so you can understand the curriculum if you want to pass the exam in 2 weeks
Then you need to prove your work. Another 4-7 pages of paragraphs and calculations with explanations that you are right.
A video tape of you learning your times tables when you were 10.
I like to be a dick when it comes to drawing graphs for homework. I'll sometimes set interval markers for 10 or 20, so I don't have to draw huge graphs. But the graphs are also often scrunched up and make things difficult for teachers to grade.
I remember I would get poor grades in math because I refused to use a page per problem to show my work because it would give my hands cramps.
I still refuse to. In high school and have passed almost all my classes.
I know that feeling. I tried doing it once, got ten problems in, and quit. I graduated 1987, so no pocket calculator then. Teacher suggested I was cheating 'somehow', but never said how. I made it a point to get the closest desk to her desk, every day after that, and told her to catch me cheating, if she was so sure. She couldn't, because I wasn't. It was just the little 'math widget' in my head that popped out correct answers when I understood the way the formulae worked.
Also that's a waste of paper, a page per problem is excessive and they're cutting down too many trees for this
It’s illegal from the teacher…
@@vilagistene2939Stop calling it illegal. You clearly have some type of trauma from school that you not only call it illegal but also don't know what illegal means.
0:53 Bro really said pics or it didn't happen 💀
I remember when I was young, there was a girl who was doing a presentation to the class and the teacher basically stated that she didn't show her work. She replied him "You are supposed to already know how I got that answer. You're a teacher after all".
Imagine if the hospital asked you to show your work before letting you sign the birth certificate 💀
Infinite kids stunlock
Umm?
You show your work by having sex with your spouse again. One of you gets pregnant. Nine months later, back at the hospital, and you have to show your work again...
Fake Hospital
The results came in! You are NOT the father!
*This child is mine now.*
man going from a school system that was "show work or else I lose marks" to "you don't need to show work but it'll save you marks if you get the final answer wrong" is a blessing.
I particularly like this. Showing work definitely needs to be incentivized as it can help diagnose problems in misunderstanding. But punishing people who can just do it is definitely wrong.
Being punished for not showinf my work made me bad at math because i didn't know how to show it, but i knew how to do it in my head...
I visualise the answer exactly as I write it, am I supposed to show all the splitting up and rounding up and down and addition/subtraction i do and all the time wasting rubbish my brain rushes through in .2 seconds?
@@Roadent1241 Yes. That's exactly what you're supposed to do.
@@zemorph42 Great now if I could slow my brain down enough to be able to read what my brain does so I can copy it out...!
@user-nu9ol8hv9c And yet I'm fairly certain I'm dyscalculic and didn't even know that was a thing until last year.
Same here. I hated math after that.
That last one though with the baby. “NOPE, DOESN’T COUNT. YOU HAVE TO SHOW YOUR WORK!!” 😂😂😂
Yes, we saw the video.
Lighten up. Hes commenting for the deff people.
0:10 Forty six what? Glasses? Oranges?
46 numerical numbers THATS for sure😂.
Middle school teachers: "Show your work or you'll lose points in college"
College professors: *gives you full marks when you simplify a 23 term triple integral in one step because it literally doesn't matter how you did it*
Yeah, high school teachers hyping up college like the professors are going to be far stricter. I found out quickly that most of the teachers are far more laid back.
yes only matters that it's correct
reminds me of one of my general remarks about college: I wish I had gone to college instead of public school. College is based on practical behavior whereas public school... pretty much all of it is just memorizing stuff.
Honestly yeah, "Proof by Mathematica" is sufficient for most of them haha
Unless you study pure math, then get ready to prove every single step you do. At least for the first couple of semesters.
Take teacher to court for murder of your child.
Win the case.
Teacher: Doesn’t count. Didn’t show your work.
I mean, as long as he presides over the case instead of a lawyer. I think he’ll ace the pop quiz
In fairness, you actually do have to show your work in a court of law, that is a context where "show your work" is actually pretty reasonable.
Pulls up a video from 11 and 1/2 months ago
@@MatthewCampbell765just learned something new today
@@NotMuchOfACommenter How do we know you learned something new? Show your work.
This is so damn true it hurts,many years ago my middle school immediately began failing me on the first quarterly report card simply because I failed to show how I got my answer on anything & trying to say I did it in my head resulted in 0 points.
Yet my mother began homeschooling me instead,letting me do work my way & I got my GED the very same day I turned age 16 finishing school way earlier than I should have
public school (teachers) are just pathetic at this point
@@notmo. A lot of them, yes. That group is there because they don't have any real talents in anything. Teaching at least lets them feel superior to someone, and gets them respect from someone. Some are actually good at teaching, but those are a minority, and the rest are there for the ego trip they get from the idea of teaching kids stuff. Not always the correct stuff, either.
Of course you have to show your work……
@@Eternal_Void599🤡🤡🤡
@@johnrussell5592But where do you live? Who respect their teachers in 21. Century? I just Tell of my all teachers that they can f-ck themselves… and it’s happened in Hungary a really very conservative country. In western-Europe it’s just normal day. You had rights!!!
0:10 -- I want him to show his work for #2. How did he arrive at "Tuesday" as the answer?
I’m an accountant and “showing your work” is just having your work done.
I've taken accounting, I hated it, I hope youre doing aell because of kt
I have had both good and bad teachers when it comes to showing your work. The good ones make it clear both what constitutes “showing work” and that showing it will be part of the grade during the test. The bad ones skip showing their work during the lectures and don’t tell you that they expect you to show work until you receive the graded test.
Most of my math teachers so far tell me to show my work if I want however they strongly suggest we show our work because they will still give us half the points if we did the equation correctly but messed up on a small part.
You need call the police! It’s illegal….
I agree. Ive actually had a teacher tell us to "show our work" when there was literally nothing to show. It was thankfully homework, but it took me 4 hours yo figure out a good way to simply my work to a reasonable standard.
Some were basic one step multiplication, so I just added that number on the paper. Then there was some addition, so I sat there and wrote out every single 1. Multication with fractions? Turned them into whole numbers using the GCF, put them together, then divided by the GCF. Subtraction? Minus 1. Division... Don't ask. Exponents? Multiplication. Roots? I skipped the work and just took a picture of my calculator and taped it to the paper of course, because teachers don't tell you how to do those and the internet doesn't even remember from where I've looked. Word problems? I literally spelled it out to them.
After all of that work... I got 1 bonus point for excessive effort and learned that they weren't trying to be that literal about it.
Exponents? Multiplication. Roots? You didn't look hard enough, or didn't use the right terms in your google search. I had to know how to do all of those things by hand when I graduated HS in 1987.
@@johnrussell5592 Honestly, I believe every word you just said. I'm actually very bad at looking things up.
Anyways, I kinda wish they still taught us how to do some of these by hand in this day of age.
@@theonomaly6389 I spent several years perfecting my google-fu (not called that then) in the late nineties, doing research with the several search engines available at the local university library. Once the desk people saw how serious I was, they started helping me understand the importance of which words in what order, and association.
I laugh my ass off think back how those short-sighted teachers told us 'there is no guarantee that you will always have a calculator with you, so you need to know how to do this on paper with a pencil'.
There were students walking around with the basic 8088 chip, from the first round of build-it-yourself home computers strapped to their wrists since 1975, and had just gotten high school affordable in 82'. I remember watching as classmates were told they had to take their watches off for tests.
I knew that it was just a matter of time then, and as soon as the scientific calculators became relatively inexpensive (thanks Texas Instruments) and widely available, the focus of high school math departments switched to teaching the student how to work the calculator to get the answers.
Roots is done via a factor tree.
@@COVID-19_Crab If only knew what that meant…
I remember the first day of learning long division in 3rd grade. And this was 63 years ago! I breezed through all of the problems on the mimeographed (remember - 1960 or 1961) sheet of paper. I just wrote down all of the answers I got in my head, and they did turn out to be all correct. Now, in my case, the teacher did give me a grade of 100 or however she expressed it. So maybe if there were 20 problems, I got a 20. But she also wrote, "Show your work," on the paper. Well, I was so full of myself and pumped up with pride over getting all of this new type of problem correct that I thought she meant something like I should take it on an exhibition tour, maybe bring it around to all of the other classrooms in the school, to show my great work on this assignment. I figured, though, that I'd better ask her what she meant, and she said that she wanted me to show all of the steps in future problem sets. Oh.
Correct interpretation of "show your work" should be going to teacher and showing that you have completed the test. The work is done. And was shown.
My math teacher always wanted to see our work for every problem. There were several of us who protested this crazy requirement. He had a big discussion with us one day, and it was ultimately concluded that our everyday adult lives aren't going to involve worked-out math problems, and that showing our work for every single problem probably won't improve our math skills much. He stopped requiring us to show our work, but we were the only class that was allowed to do so, and we weren't allowed to alert other math students that we didn't have to show our work. He told us that each class had to "rebel" on their own and have the same kind of discussion we had with him. I don't think any of the other classes ever got out of having to show their work, but I wouldn't know since no one was allowed to talk about it, and if we did, the requirement would be put back into place.
That weird feeling when you don’t have to show your work but you do it anyway
You know, this may be one of the many small things that make students uninterested in giving a damn. I've been told this many times, and looking back, the "show your work or you get a lesser grade/ it won't count" is similar to a narcissistic tendency to make someone do what they say. Narcissistic tendencies ruin bright young, as well as old, minds.
It isn't necessarily down to just ego at all.
Used properly there is a reason to show the working.
One is to give points even if you get the wrong answer.
Another (in work that doesn't count for grades) is to make sure you understand how to do the process. Arguably a lot of high school level maths is about the process of logical thinking than it is the correct answer. Also some people are able to get the right answer on exercises by accident (or cheating) and then not understand how do it when they get to the real test. A teacher should never think about just the best students and should be trying to assist all of them.
Plus there are many fields of study later on where having a record of your work is vital - so you can see what you did, and allow others to do so. Scientists routinely have to show proof of their work in journals, so it is a good habit to get into and is another skill.
Don't immediately assume they are wrong simply because you are unable to think of a reason why this might actually be used.
@@steves1015 who care about 1 correct answer by accident ? thats not going to get them far if they mess the rest.......copying other students doesn't mean they be copying a smart student, basicly shooting themselve in the foot...also a teacher could force students to take different seats every months to see if some students result change if they got any doubth..... also i'd argue that easy math problem should not require proof...give long equations to solve if you want students to do actual writing on how they solve it...too basic stuff and having to show proof just feel like extra work for no reason...just for say maths were a complete joke to me when back in school....addition,substraction,multiplication.....all easy..division is a bit more complexe as you get in things like 0.4....also i had a math problem showing just that a 0.x during my first time in a math class(25 years ago approx when i was 8 old)....teacher and parents had NOT taught me what a 0.X meant so that was something i could not solve but for the rest easy get to the answers..i think i learn what 0.X meant around fourth grade(took some years b4 teachers talk about those so not sure why i was getting maths with it in if teacher weren't teaching it :S).........also apparently school system change a bit in regard to when they teach certain things....are multiplications like a first grade thing now ? or is it still third/fourth grade along divisions ?
A good teacher clarifies what you do to show your work and gives credit for both the work and the answer.
Makes you feel better when you get 80% of the points for just writing out the work even if you messed up and got a wrong answer
What work here needs to be done except for writing the correct answer? It is not an ancient Egypt where you have to place stone on a pile to show how you did your work. In Poland where I was learning math teacher called us saying numbers to count and within 3 sec we had to give an answer. It was done since 1st grade. In front of class. What is also a real problem at schools is math problems are written in such confusing way that even adults struggle to figure out what is the question about.
@@lubystkaolamonola529 in math and science the proccess is very important to how you obtained the answer, besides being simply more able to identify flaws in your math, being able to write it out helps out with programming such math into systems as well.
@@lubystkaolamonola529Have you taken calculus?
That said, realistically in the real world getting the right answer is far more important than showing improper work. If you get the wrong answer when working a job, your boss isn't going to give a crap if you showed your work.
you would fail engineering hard like that .
Only Edward Robinson would say “show your work”
and riyas babu
I never hated anything at school more than “show your work”
To this day I will never forget when I lost half a point for writing “top” instead of “lid.” Dumbest 24.5/25 of my life.
These teachers can also be a blessing. One time, I didn't know the answer to almost all of the questions, but I basically guessed how do them, showed my work, and got an A-
bro are your parents asian?
still cool :)
So it is a test to see how good you are at bulshitting others.
@@whome9842pretty much
Much better than teachers deducting all your marks for a minor miscalculation among a hundred correct steps.
77 years old, Combat veteran of Vietnam; several bad marriages; Cancer; several dangerous occupations, including high-steel rigging; faced down the barrel of a gun; as well as assorted other trauma.
But what do I have nightmares about? F'ing High School and that somehow, I have to go back to pick up something I missed for graduation. Every time.
Samo samo. For me it was JC math classes. I aspired to be an Aerospace Engineer and fighter pilot. I was average in the slide rule, but couldn't advance for the showing work issue. Life took a different path, Asia in 69 courtesy of Uncle Sam.
Weird, so filing for military travel stipends and taxes never gave you a headache ?
the worst part is when you see something from your classmate and they get full points on a question that _really_ required elaboration and yet they did _none_ of it 😭
Bro people who don’t show their work should get extra credit because they’re THAT GOOD.
How to do 81 + 1
1. Basic Addition: At its core, (81 + 1) is a straightforward addition problem. [ 81 + 1 = 82 ]This is the
simplest and most direct approach.2. Representation in Expanded Form:Let's express 81 and 1 in expanded form and then add: ( 81) can be expanded as (80 + 1). (1) remains (1).Now, add the components:[ (80 +
1) +1=80 + (1 + 1) =80 + 2 = 8213. Using Properties of Addition (Commutativity and
Associativity) :Commutative Property states that (a + b = b + a ).Associative Property states that ( (a + b) +
c = a + (b + c) ).Let's use both properties: [ 81 + 1 = 1 + 81 = 1 + (80 + 1) = (1 + 1) + 80 = 2 + 80 = 82]4.
Using the Number Line:Consider a number line from 0 to 100. Starting at 81:Moving 1 unit to the right will land you at 82.5. Binary Representation:Let's convert the numbers to binary and perform binary addition. ( 81) in binary: (1010001_2)(1) in binary: (0000001_2 )Perform binary addition:[ 1010001_2 +
0000001_2 = 1010010_2 ]Convert ( 1010010_2) back to decimal:[ 1010010_2 = 82_{10} 16. Algebraic
Approach:Let ( x = 81) and (y = 1). Then (x + y = 81 + 1 = 82).7. Geometric Interpretation:If you were to
consider a square with side length 9 (since (81 = 9^2)), adding 1 to this could be visualized as increasing
the area by a unit square, although geometrically it doesn't change the square's dimensions.8. Using Modular Arithmetic:Consider the operation (81 + 1) modulo some number:For example, modulo 100:[ (81 +
1) \mod 100 = 82 \mod 100 = 82 19. Using a Recursive Sequence:Imagine a sequence defined as: [a_n =
a_ín-1} + 1, ltext{ with } a_0 = 81 ]Then:[ a_1 = 81 + 1 = 82 110. Calculus Context (for fun):Consider the
function (f(x) = x + 1) at (x = 81):[ f(81) = 81 + 1 = 82 ]Conclusion:Through various mathematical lenses,
the solution remains consistent: [ 81 + 1 = 82 ]
I wonder if the math teacher would say, "Please don't show me your work ever again".
I HATE when they say “show your work” because I can do it in my head 😭
simply write a 5 page essay for every single math question
well at least you don't have teachers asking you to show them something only you should see....while in the bathroom 💀
C'mon, admit it, he didn't show his birth certificate. What's a teacher to do?
The worst is when you actually DO show your work, and they STILL tell you to show your work. I got 60s through my ENTIRE time in high-school math because of this.
8% F for me, using a method that I was taught in a college course for my high school homework.
@@youtubehandlesrgarbage sounds about right. I failed a test because I figured out a better way to do a certain unit than what we were taught, even though I got every answer right.
It was college for me. My middle/high school teachers were pretty chill.
At that point you can argue teacher bias and file a complaint.
@@randompoet9997 I had a similar thing happen. The teacher then told me it wasn't about finding the easiest way for solving that particular problem, but for learning & practising a particular method that would be useful later in math.
Worst question a teacher can ask 💀💀
Fr
"I don't know, can you?"
One of my math teachers had a rule that if we didn't show our work but got the question correct, we'd get full points. If we got the question incorrect, we'd get no points.
HOWEVER, if we showed our work but got the question wrong, he'd give half points because he can see exactly where we went wrong. He knew we put in the effort and ALMOST got there, so we got half points for getting halfway.
He was my favorite math teacher.
"Awww is this your baby? He's so cute."
"Yea he is mine."
"... show your work."
I'm convinced this is why people grow to hate Math and refuse to follow a career involving it so many times.
Yeah I refuse to follow a career involving math and book reading because I had dickhead teachers that act like this and then wonder why they don't get paid.
As a teacher, showing work can be very beneficial for figuring out where a student is potentially going wrong and/pr how a student thinks. However, many teachers take it wayyy too far.
Also the problem could have an answer that somebody might get right with a guess. For example, the mean of a set of numbers, the student could look at them and estimate it will be 30 something and randomly write down 34 and that happens to be right.
Im good at math and didn't do show work, so i reverse engineered the answer. Don't think this is what they meant but oh well
This so dang true I hate it when they do that
The last part was crazy 💀
HE made the video to show every worst students nightmare This is perfect
Bro this happens all the time lmao
"You need to show how you produced this baby."
" * sigh * fine." * loosens pants *
Maybe if the teacher is female?
@@Playerano8isntcool then its sexual harassment against a minor for forcing a student to do that
Fun fact: Depending on which country/state in said country you're from, it's illegal for a school or teacher to give you less of a grade for not showing your working out as getting the right answer is much more important than showing how you got it. One such place would be Queensland, Australia just as an example.
That’s actually kinda good. Why the hell would kids NEED to show how they got the answer? It’s just such an insignificant detail, yet some teachers hyperfocuse so much on it.
PS: It isn’t illegal in my country.
I wish Minnesota in the USA was like that!
That's a shame. If I as a teacher want to prepare a lesson, and it requires pre knowledge of a certain method.
I will be hard pressed to know whether a student actually is ready to understand the material, because they didn't use the method outlined in class.
E.g. using trial and error to solve simultaneous equations. Instead of being able to use addition, subtraction, multiplication and division to manipulate both sides to get the result
I'd argue method marks are there to help your own learning. Getting a high score (whilst within the learning environment of the school) is less important to me as a teacher
@@avatarmufasa3628 Disclosing to the students that they have to show their work to show they understand a specific method would solve this issue. It's when teachers assume you're copying or otherwise cheating that it gets annoying.
@@JohnWilson-hc5wq
I do, it doesnt solve the issue. If anyone goes back to school, youd be shocked at how poorly students tend to follow instructions. Theres a huge bias towards a child not paying as much attention, or wanting to get away with writing less. A lot of the time in lessons, youll hear "why?", and a huge part of wanting to do it in your head really is a basis of not wanting to bother writing it down because the child doesnt think they need to. Ive literally had to coach specific students step by step, having them write down each line, and slowly but surely had them grasp it.
I dont nescessarilly assume cheating, though I do go over papers and do check the work, and sometimes, some answers are both wrong, and in such a weird way and you know they sit next to each other and caught glimpses of them looking, that yes I have called out cheating.
That being said though, the anti-cheating idea isnt my main reason for wanting students to write down the method. Thats just a bonus. My reason is purely down to that childs capacity to justify their answers. Writing down the answer is merely an assertion, and if we are to break down multi step problems, then writing it down the method is essential
Its hard though. Students have to go through so much at school, and with 30+ class sizes, it gets hard for the student to have the attention they need to really help the develop their skills. All whilst having to listen to an individual who is underpayed and probably is just not handling it perfectly with 100 things on their plate
If I'm expected to show my work, you best believe I'm asking the teacher to show his work that qualifies him to teach.
I have ADHD, so the fact that I have to waste time "showing my work" instead of doing the next parts of the test is why I score so low despite how much I love science.
Oh man, that hits me on a spiritual level. From elementary to college, I always had at least one or several teachers every year who did this shit. Answering the exact same as taught in class and ending up with 60% as the highest grade of the class because "not enough development"... Some teachers are complete jokes.
Why do teachers even do this?
@@ramenyamakazu Either they're blind or they're downright sadistic. I've seen some utterly vile people in the profession.
@@YTshortsIsTerrible Yep.
@@YTshortsIsTerrible Parents are why didn’t call lawyers??
When I got asked to show my work back in highschool, a lot of the time I'd just answer normally, and scribble some 'work' on the paper to show to the teacher, even if it didn't really lead to the answer I put down.
It worked about half the time.
I like that.
“Bring in your birth certificate, obviously.” 💀
"Your birth certificate is incorrect, show some work"
HOW WOULD I SHOW WORK THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT MAKES THEM JACKASS🤬
How I get my name wrong part had me laughing so hard!! GOOD JOB!
The right answer is all that matters. How you got an answer only matters if your answer is wrong.
I hate it so much. I just write a bunch of stuff in shitty handwriting. They see a lot of stuff but nothing makes sense which they won’t know that.
I always had a feeling they don't even check the work themselves. I guess the best option is to just make it look right so when they skim over it while grading they think it's right
@@lost-soul-anonymous yeah like this:
23 x 2 = 20 + 20 + 3 + 3 = 46
Answer: 46
I had a teacher that tried to do this to me. I went to the principal they gave me an option of doing a small quiz that the teacher could make to prove that I was doing it all in my head and not cheating. If I got done in ten minutes and got at least half right the teacher could no longer fail me for not showing work. Quiz was 30 questions and fairly hard for average students in that grade. I got 100% and got done in less than 5 minutes all with her looking over my shoulder. The look on her face was priceless.😂 she was so mad.
And there in gives you the answer of why this is a requirement.
A teacher looks after many students, it is difficult enough to mark all the work and write out corrections, without having to try and figure out who is cheating and who is genuinely good at maths. It is much harder to spot cheating in maths than in, say, English.
Some teachers admittedly take it too far, but these days in particular, if a student fails (e.g. because in all of the term work they just copied the answer and then couldn't do the real tests) then it is the teacher's fault first, and they will be interrogated.
@@steves1015If they can’t proven they are cheated then they are not cheated.
@@steves1015you would have a point if it wasn’t for the fact that I was the only person that did it in their head that got punished for doing it in my head. There were 4 others in the class that never showed work either and they always got the credit when they answered correctly.
The pain when my Igneous and Metamorphic Petrology teacher actually wanted a paragraph explaining my work, on top of showing it. An instruction he didn't even write on the test.
I've never heard of this. Glad that I am 73 - school was really good for us!
When I was in HS this happened to me. I brought the councilor into the class and she had the teacher pull a problem out of the book at random that I wrote on the chalkboard in front of my class and I got it right without showing any work, just the answer. I insisted on doing a few more to prove it was not a fluke. She changed my zero to a 70 (the lowest possible passing grade) and I was happy. I proved my point. I passed math and graduated.
Math is teaching you problem solving a there are many different ways to solve a problem.
I had this same problem throughout school. Simple math doesn't have work to show, it just IS the answer.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe"
I don't mind showing work; you need to be able to prove that you understand why a solution is the solution. What I didn't like is when teachers insisted that I show my work a particular way. I could prove a solution, but if it's not the specific proof they were looking for, they'd mark it off. That shows some teachers don't understand the whole point behind showing work.
The teacher at the end knew he didn't really need to show his workings, he was just really lonely and felt the only way to get over it was by watching his student's sex tape
Why doesn't the teacher show how the GRADE is calculated?
IDK why teachers expect us to do that nowadays.
LOL had to deal with this at one point. Teacher wasn't amused when I decided to be a smartass and wrote a pile of computer code as my "Work" funny thing is if you compiled the program I wrote out it would actually give the correct answer.
Epic. Which programming language?
@@damianjblackall of them
The implications of showing your work on that last bit hahahahaha.
"I got my name wrong!" 😂😂😂
Fun fact: I actually failed math last year bc I didn’t “show my work”
Like my fellow human being, one of the questions was more or less “5^x = 25, find x”
Well... not that it will help anyone cause 2+2=4 is pretty standard, but if you need to show your work...
1=>0
1+1=>1=2
1+2=>2=3
2+2=>3=4
2+2=4
They might raise an eyebrow at the expressions used, but it's technically not wrong.
I once failed a math test despite being the only one in the class with every correct answer and I even threw in a bonus better answer where I optimized a better solution than the teacher on one problem but I didn't show "enough" work, they wanted like paragraphs explaining everything and we weren't supposed to know about algebra yet.
And the teacher went in the pirson?
How do you write a paragraph about numbers? They're numbers. At the very best I'll write other numbers to explain them, but this is math class not english class.
Math before reaching the algebra stage is practically self-evident...what work?
I literally got a 50% once because I got all the questions right, but no working out. I cried
Tell your teacher she needs to show her work on calculating your score. They love that.
I remember those days when I had to show my work in math class. As a student, I got to learn how to do mental math, develop speedy ways to get the correct answer, and do basic arithmetic faster than other people could punch numbers into a calculator outside of the classroom, but inside the classroom, I did not get to override my teacher and I would do anything to get an A in the class, so I did not care if my way was faster than the teacher's way or not. I just did what I was suppose to do. I may have been able to beat a calculator at basic multiplication, division, and such, but that did not matter. I still needed to show my work and that is what I did, the teacher's way and I have a life lesson to teach, geared for people who are in school: respect your teachers. Your way may or may not be smarter than your teacher's way, but either way, as a student, you do not get to override your teacher. If you want to challenge your teacher, you may do that later as a former student who has already made the grade. Also, do not get me started on any video proof of me going faster than a calculator. I did that in the nineties and we did not have RUclips in those days. What we had were VHS tapes and those things were not cheap. Also, nobody that I had encountered ever wanted to carry a large peek hole thing over their shoulders that would appear to be a giant, compared to the cameras we have today, except durring special occasions and such.
You know the joke is funny when you have to deliver it screaming
my math teacher knows how easy it is to do some parts of equation in your head so she never asks me that question, but my physics teacher..
my entire elementary life and some of my middle school life was a curse because the teachers said "show your work" so much and even discouraged doing math in your head to where i had to do everything on paper if it came to two digits
obviously i’m not that brain dead anymore but my gosh my teachers encouraged showing work the wrong way lol
"46 is the amount of chromosomes I have."
Me with 47: lol weak
Another annoying thing is when they write “???” instead of telling you why you were wrong
Now that was funny especially the part about your name 😂
“Here’s my newborn son”
“Show your work”
“What?”
“Show me how you made thi-“
yooooooooo
I did s-
"Right now? I could show you right f***ing n-"
*Brings out sex tape*
bro wanted the sauce
I had this one teacher who gave me all marks if I got it correct with no working. If I got it wrong he'd still count the working if I put it. That was pretty fair.
Me likey
This kinda works the other way too. Like when I "solved" a triangle side because it was obvious in a checkered notebook one side of a triangle is double the length of another. I didn't know how to show it with math so i skipped a few steps and my teacher assumed it was obvious to me, got an A.
As a math enthusiast myself, the worst part about school math is that sometimes it's incredibly rigid. I can't give a general solution, but my personal approach to being told to use a method is to instead use a completely different, overcomplicated, yet completely valid and arguably more impressive method. You need me to find the minimum of a parabola? Derivative. Need the midpoint of a triangle in cartesian coordinates? Complex numbers. Calculate 3+2? Prove my result via ZFC.
In 3rd grade, my teacher told me that I need to show my work on the next test or she wouldn't grade it at all
So, being the very literal person I am, on the next test I ended up putting painstaking detail into describing my every thought process on how I solved the problem. After an hour my teacher said "time's up!" And I cried out "But I haven't even finished the first question!!!"
My teacher, bewildered, came to look at my test and saw I had been writing a literal essay about how to solve the first problem in the margins of the test, I even ran out of room on the first page and was nearly out of room on the whole test.
She told me I could retake it later and never required me to show my work again cause she was cool like that 🤣
She did, however, tell me that for future reference many teachers like it when you write out the equations instead of doing everything in your head. So I begrudgingly agreed to try doing that sometimes
This is a problem a lot of autistic people face in school. It happened to me a few times, mostly because I either forgot to do that part, or I wasn't sure how to make it more simple than it already was.
A lot of people
Oh. Interesting. I had this problem, and I also have autism. Maybe there is something going on. I am good with science, math and computers. I actually find those subjects to be relatively easy. Social studies is a lot tougher. English and foreign language are the most difficult. Autism has a different way of thinking. There is more ability in having attention to detail and diving deep into specialized topics. Autism can come with really strong reading skills. This is called hyperlexia. I wonder if this kind of mind would also be strong at math. Math seems to align with that, due to its logical nature. Maybe this special math ability can be called "hypercalcula".
I always hated when they want me to show them my work. That's the same as if them asking me to reveal my secrets, those secrets are securely kept I ain't just gonna revealed them.
At one time that is how mathematicians got and kept jobs by knowing something another person did not know how to do.
Bro math is about finding the solution no matter the route you take. As long as you got the right answer it should count. SO WHY TF DO WE HAVE TO SHOW OUR GODDAMN WORK?
I remember being one of the best in maths (I decided to be on a lower set to have a guaranteed pass during my final year) my teacher always brought up showing working out and I told her I don't do that because I only have an hour to finish a test and I ain't wasting my time explaining something a 7 year old should be able to understand and if I did show working out it's something that actually needed to be worked out
@ I wish I had the amount of balls you had
To be fair it's not because they think you didn't get the easy questions right or even the hard ones right in your head it's because they know in the future you'll be more successful in life if you instinctively write down how you got to the conclusion. If you want a job they need to see you're qualified not hear you're qualified... if you want to be a teacher saying the answer won't teach the students you need to show them.... it you want to be a banker you need to keep records of certain finances not say you did in your head...
Would you rather someone slam a plate of food down and say, copy this or teach you how they made it?
Fun fact: It took 100+ pages to prove 1+1=2