@@mthokozisilanga4497 your friends said the same things when CIC was removed from the ANC for demanding the same things he's demanding today. We are not shocked!
Well, i voted for the EFF in the last elections though i am not a member. So after voting at my voting station i went straight to the EFF representatives tent just to get a feel of what's going on in the EFF internally. I told the representatives that i voted for the EFF and we exchanged a few laughs till we got comfortable with each other enough to speak frankly. I told them i was nit particularly happy with the EFF emigration stance. Their response was very interesting to me, they said that there were a lot of murmurs within the organisation that were not happy about the stance also but were never given the platform to voice their opinions freely in a non intimidating way. It seems the immigration stance was a top down approach. What this guy said during Clement's interview is very consistent with my discussion with the EFF reps. It seems Malema is determined to die on the emigration hill and is taking the EFF with him.
What else did they tell you cause it seems they forgot to tell you the border policy is in the founding manifesto of the EFF that would mean they joined the party without knowing what the party stands for. Even this guy when he joined EFF as he claims, the manifesto was there for him to read. I doubt he knows the MK founding manifesto as well.
EFF suffocating in a plastic wraped on its neck by their leader CIC MALEMA,dying very painfully slow...whoever still remains on his party is doing this for the stomach,especially most women who are making the most noise in parliament when in progress.
They are totally shocked anf confused it means it is their bad habit to undermine people look at the resent incident they did to Floyd Shivambu they are not disciplined and normal as well as unprofessional.
Why should EFF should respond to every member that decide to leave the party and if a member is not in good standing that would be a relevant response.
He did not renew his membeship therefore at the time of his so called resignation letter he was not a member, the same goes to Floyd. We know our members in good standing. If you want to fight politically, gloves are off, lt's go...😂
EFF was a student and youth movement to begin with not a party for drinking tea at old age home. EFF is one of the problem with unemployment and paralysing the youth, the youth didn't wait for no party or political leader when they needed to stand for something whether is sasco or other party, but this days we always waiting for EFF approvals to stand against racism, unemployment and student funding. Yes EFF has their own success story but they became this political and hero worship of CIC and that is when the youth got paralyzed, you had students from top to lower varsities, students with PHD putting everything on the line, from TUT to Wits, it was a revolutionary stance like June 16, CIC arrived with unwanted policies and contributed in a major way of ruining the movement. CIC was a youth leader correct but it was never the youth on ANC on the ground, it youth from every party. In TUT it won't take 24 hours till something burns if we not satisfied but now go to any TUT it is paralyzed and disgraceful.
@@MotlokwaThwii Yes, I know all the parties in South Africa adopted all their policies from ANC, especially EFF, it was ANC youth league at first to begin with, reason many suggest EFF and MK to do coalition is because they are historically ANC anyways. The policy, or so suggest adopted policy is firstly land without compensation, EFF don't have the proper strategy, they first wanted to nationalise everything but found it a bit tricky and suggested Government to buy out companies. The second policy is the foreign policy, the most misunderstood one, the CiC approach is misunderstood because of his behaviour and speeches, he simplify suggest this no visa thing to be cancelled, how can you pay visa 20K to go to Zimbabwe, for what exactly ?? secondly on crime, another valid point, it is difficult for a foreigner to commit crime in a country with less crime, blaming foreigners on crime in this country is a bit pointless, how do they cross borders and even get ID ?? you should be observing the Government and it's employees to begin with, those are your major criminals. So this is my point of unwanted policy, every member who resign say CIC doesn't listen when it comes to foreign policy approach and lets not forget why they lost votes and keep losing. Even though DA and western rigged vote many of the ground disagree with open border, they want land, employment and solving crime to be priority. And trust me when I say even those policies you will find in MK, difference is the approach, reasons I say unwanted policies.
@@MotlokwaThwii you asking me the difference between synthetic and generic but to answer your question, you take an original idea and make it yours. A political party typically adopts a policy through a structured process that involves several key steps: 1. **Research and Consultation**: Party leaders and policy experts gather data, analyze issues, and consult with stakeholders, including party members, experts, advocacy groups, and the public. This helps identify priorities and key concerns. 2. **Policy Proposals**: Based on the research, party members or committees develop policy proposals. These proposals outline specific actions or positions the party could take on particular issues. 3. **Internal Discussions and Debate**: The proposed policies are discussed and debated within the party. This could take place in meetings, party conferences, or caucuses where members can provide input or suggest modifications. 4. **Party Conference or Convention**: Many political parties have official gatherings, such as a conference or convention, where key policies are discussed, voted on, and formally adopted. Delegates or party members may vote on specific policies. 5. **Approval by Leadership or Committees**: Once the policy is debated and refined, it may need approval from the party's executive committee or leadership team before becoming official party policy. 6. **Announcement and Implementation**: After adoption, the policy is officially announced to the public and integrated into the party's platform. It then becomes part of the party’s broader agenda during elections or governance. This process ensures that the policy aligns with the party’s values and reflects the interests of its members and supporters. To conclude no party has an original policy except the ANC and then you would have to investigate roots of ANC than again you find some philosophy. But point is ANC is the original blueprint for most policy even if they adopted few from the likes of PAC and etc. NHI is adopted policy from Britain but RDP is ANC policy (generic) and I conclude here.
The response from EFF is having a big question as how many members who are thinking are valued EFF members and coming to light they're not even recognized as EFF members
@sifisongwenya9310 did they join EFF for recognition ? All members need to do internal search as to why they belong wherever they are, if we are to use recognition as a reason to start an argument.😢😢😢
Malema had tea with Zupta in Nkandla?....and now the Nkandla Crooner says thank U by stealing the EFF members?....eish...Malema got a nice kick from Zupta
I'M LUCAS MASHEGWANA FROM POLOKWANE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EFF THIS 2024 BECAUSE I CAN SEE EFF IS GOING OUT OFF POWER REALLY I DON'T COPE STRAIGHT WHAT'S EFF UP TO MR MALEMA PLEASE COME WITH PLAN BE I LOVE EFF PROBLEM ALL MEMBERS IS GOING OUT MR MALEMA TALK STRAIGHT WHAT'S UP TO
The only questionable resignation was that of Floyd shivambu and as for others I don't know. Some of us as ordinary citizens doesn't even know of such members so I guess they were not part of strategic leaders of the organization.
Let the journalists interrogate this report. Was this oung man a member or not a member? Did any senior member interacted with him or not? Was he a Student Leader or not? Did he command students in various campuses? Was he recognized? Was he funded? Then between the Author of the letters, who is lying? Truth be told in this matter.
But malema didn't say borders must be open for European, I doubt if he is talking about foreigners, other people they call their own African foreigners. I am asking clarity whether he mean non African when he says foregners.
Politic organisations lose and welcome members everytime. What is happening to eff is normal politic practice. EFF is not going anywhere. I wonder why with all these comments because you not members and did not vote them just leave EFF to us. I guess if the foreign policy was that strict we wouldn't have so many illegal immigrants in SA you should be addressing that with the ANC manje obaba benu baphila ngama tender ANC senibona kungcono nibe relevent nge EFF. Mxm
Zuma strategy "we are together - we are one thing" that's how he ate members from ANC, Malema learned nothing from that move and proceed to associate with MK, now we are together with EFF is eating their members, waiting for other parties of the so called progressive forces to suffer the same fate (as Makhubela Sara party and others that are swallowed ) 😂😂😂
Very soon, they will also deny that Floyd has ever been an EFF member, just as the ANCYL now claims that Floyd was a member of ANCYL but never a member of ANC. Sour grapes?
It seems that by 2026 the EFF would have lost many members.
The eff won't see 2026,
You delusional, MK is a fire flame@@Ridiculous-671
There will be no EFF in 2026
@@sibongileviolet887 keep dreaming
@@mthokozisilanga4497 your friends said the same things when CIC was removed from the ANC for demanding the same things he's demanding today. We are not shocked!
Well, i voted for the EFF in the last elections though i am not a member. So after voting at my voting station i went straight to the EFF representatives tent just to get a feel of what's going on in the EFF internally. I told the representatives that i voted for the EFF and we exchanged a few laughs till we got comfortable with each other enough to speak frankly. I told them i was nit particularly happy with the EFF emigration stance. Their response was very interesting to me, they said that there were a lot of murmurs within the organisation that were not happy about the stance also but were never given the platform to voice their opinions freely in a non intimidating way. It seems the immigration stance was a top down approach. What this guy said during Clement's interview is very consistent with my discussion with the EFF reps.
It seems Malema is determined to die on the emigration hill and is taking the EFF with him.
Did they tell you where the stance came from?? Or they think it's Malema's stance?
What branch is that?
What else did they tell you cause it seems they forgot to tell you the border policy is in the founding manifesto of the EFF that would mean they joined the party without knowing what the party stands for.
Even this guy when he joined EFF as he claims, the manifesto was there for him to read. I doubt he knows the MK founding manifesto as well.
So Marshall Dlamini is a liar.🤣🤣🤣
He is angry, the EFF must not be angry with the people they loose as they did gain people from other parties.
Hawu bayabaphika manje this is a joke yebo silethela foreigners uyalunga malema viva mkhonto🎉🎉🎉
EFF suffocating in a plastic wraped on its neck by their leader CIC MALEMA,dying very painfully slow...whoever still remains on his party is doing this for the stomach,especially most women who are making the most noise in parliament when in progress.
They are totally shocked anf confused it means it is their bad habit to undermine people look at the resent incident they did to Floyd Shivambu they are not disciplined and normal as well as unprofessional.
Why should EFF should respond to every member that decide to leave the party and if a member is not in good standing that would be a relevant response.
The youth person must send his letter to the youth.
The fact of the matter is they LOST a member. Receipts don't lie... Welcome home khomanda 💚💚💚🖤🖤🖤
Shame we don't recognize you stop forcing yourself to the fighters hambaaaaaaaaa
@@YT-xk5jl stop 🛑. You don't make sense right now. Don't copy your leadership foolishness please
Zuma is killing EFF and ANC at the same time
He did not renew his membeship therefore at the time of his so called resignation letter he was not a member, the same goes to Floyd.
We know our members in good standing.
If you want to fight politically, gloves are off, lt's go...😂
They are lying what only now that they tell him he was not a member they must swallow it as bitter as it is😅
Those are the people. Which makes EFF. Loses power for a long time. They are after position they must go. All of them
They are lying, he was even their MP 😂😂😂
I cant wait so see the disappointment ofbthis people who arejin a hurry to join eff😂
EFF is growing like it you will see.
EFF was a student and youth movement to begin with not a party for drinking tea at old age home. EFF is one of the problem with unemployment and paralysing the youth, the youth didn't wait for no party or political leader when they needed to stand for something whether is sasco or other party, but this days we always waiting for EFF approvals to stand against racism, unemployment and student funding. Yes EFF has their own success story but they became this political and hero worship of CIC and that is when the youth got paralyzed, you had students from top to lower varsities, students with PHD putting everything on the line, from TUT to Wits, it was a revolutionary stance like June 16, CIC arrived with unwanted policies and contributed in a major way of ruining the movement. CIC was a youth leader correct but it was never the youth on ANC on the ground, it youth from every party. In TUT it won't take 24 hours till something burns if we not satisfied but now go to any TUT it is paralyzed and disgraceful.
What unwanted policies? Do you even know how a party adopts policies?
@@MotlokwaThwii Yes, I know all the parties in South Africa adopted all their policies from ANC, especially EFF, it was ANC youth league at first to begin with, reason many suggest EFF and MK to do coalition is because they are historically ANC anyways.
The policy, or so suggest adopted policy is firstly land without compensation, EFF don't have the proper strategy, they first wanted to nationalise everything but found it a bit tricky and suggested Government to buy out companies. The second policy is the foreign policy, the most misunderstood one, the CiC approach is misunderstood because of his behaviour and speeches, he simplify suggest this no visa thing to be cancelled, how can you pay visa 20K to go to Zimbabwe, for what exactly ?? secondly on crime, another valid point, it is difficult for a foreigner to commit crime in a country with less crime, blaming foreigners on crime in this country is a bit pointless, how do they cross borders and even get ID ?? you should be observing the Government and it's employees to begin with, those are your major criminals.
So this is my point of unwanted policy, every member who resign say CIC doesn't listen when it comes to foreign policy approach and lets not forget why they lost votes and keep losing. Even though DA and western rigged vote many of the ground disagree with open border, they want land, employment and solving crime to be priority.
And trust me when I say even those policies you will find in MK, difference is the approach, reasons I say unwanted policies.
@@Malokani How does a party adopt policies?
@@MotlokwaThwii you asking me the difference between synthetic and generic but to answer your question, you take an original idea and make it yours.
A political party typically adopts a policy through a structured process that involves several key steps:
1. **Research and Consultation**: Party leaders and policy experts gather data, analyze issues, and consult with stakeholders, including party members, experts, advocacy groups, and the public. This helps identify priorities and key concerns.
2. **Policy Proposals**: Based on the research, party members or committees develop policy proposals. These proposals outline specific actions or positions the party could take on particular issues.
3. **Internal Discussions and Debate**: The proposed policies are discussed and debated within the party. This could take place in meetings, party conferences, or caucuses where members can provide input or suggest modifications.
4. **Party Conference or Convention**: Many political parties have official gatherings, such as a conference or convention, where key policies are discussed, voted on, and formally adopted. Delegates or party members may vote on specific policies.
5. **Approval by Leadership or Committees**: Once the policy is debated and refined, it may need approval from the party's executive committee or leadership team before becoming official party policy.
6. **Announcement and Implementation**: After adoption, the policy is officially announced to the public and integrated into the party's platform. It then becomes part of the party’s broader agenda during elections or governance.
This process ensures that the policy aligns with the party’s values and reflects the interests of its members and supporters.
To conclude no party has an original policy except the ANC and then you would have to investigate roots of ANC than again you find some philosophy. But point is ANC is the original blueprint for most policy even if they adopted few from the likes of PAC and etc. NHI is adopted policy from Britain but RDP is ANC policy (generic) and I conclude here.
He must go with his plastic politics. In the hardest times you get to know who is who in the struggle. viva EFF ❤❤❤
@@Mondli2890 salute my leader we need leaders like you more
Moho joins Floyd in hell.
Gwaza mkhonto wesizwe gwaza viva M.K 🖤💚🇿🇦
The response from EFF is having a big question as how many members who are thinking are valued EFF members and coming to light they're not even recognized as EFF members
Relax, man, they were just fighting fire with fire
But the guy doesn’t have any branch🤷🏻♀️what must the EFF say? He’s sending the resignation to the national office cos he doesn’t have a branch
But he was never an important member, we rejected him 7 years ago
@sifisongwenya9310 did they join EFF for recognition ? All members need to do internal search as to why they belong wherever they are, if we are to use recognition as a reason to start an argument.😢😢😢
Malema had tea with Zupta in Nkandla?....and now the Nkandla Crooner says thank U by stealing the EFF members?....eish...Malema got a nice kick from Zupta
Eh!! Stealing members?? People are willingly joining MK. They are not being stolen.
Danko
Nami angimazi umpho ubuyaphi yena lobaba lona😂😂.
I'M LUCAS MASHEGWANA FROM POLOKWANE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EFF THIS 2024 BECAUSE I CAN SEE EFF IS GOING OUT OFF POWER REALLY I DON'T COPE STRAIGHT WHAT'S EFF UP TO MR MALEMA PLEASE COME WITH PLAN BE I LOVE EFF PROBLEM ALL MEMBERS IS GOING OUT MR MALEMA TALK STRAIGHT WHAT'S UP TO
But Malema said many will leave Eff to mkp, so we r not surprised
MR MALEMA PLEASE GIVE US THE TRUTH ABOUT EFF
Welcome commander, GWAZA MKHONTO
The only questionable resignation was that of Floyd shivambu and as for others I don't know. Some of us as ordinary citizens doesn't even know of such members so I guess they were not part of strategic leaders of the organization.
The arrogance in denying their own member is the same arrogance that is eating the party like rust eating the metal
How is he their member? Did you confirm his membership and renewals thereof? Which branch does he belong to?
@@MotlokwaThwii watch the video
Kwanzima EFF😮😮😮😮
Let the journalists interrogate this report. Was this oung man a member or not a member?
Did any senior member interacted with him or not?
Was he a Student Leader or not?
Did he command students in various campuses?
Was he recognized? Was he funded?
Then between the Author of the letters, who is lying?
Truth be told in this matter.
So what else is new we the EFF members we know these.whts your point
As long as mkhonto mentions African as a whole then it means its eff in newer version
This arrogance in EFF seem to hide something, this youth there must do its homework on who are they following really 😂😂😂truth will come out
EFF just proves again and again that they are a clown party and dont have any plans to move South Africa forward
There is no honour amongst thugs 🤣🤣🤣
EFF will never be destroyed
Go plz we are okay we start rebuilding in eff
😂😂😂😂 the end of gangster party.....Shem were is the dictator Malema
The MK is more dangerous let's watch the boogie man Zuma the bigger picture. We are in big trouble you will remember my words, as a country.
You are dreaming
But malema didn't say borders must be open for European, I doubt if he is talking about foreigners, other people they call their own African foreigners. I am asking clarity whether he mean non African when he says foregners.
We don't know you just leave and stop noise
Politic organisations lose and welcome members everytime. What is happening to eff is normal politic practice. EFF is not going anywhere. I wonder why with all these comments because you not members and did not vote them just leave EFF to us. I guess if the foreign policy was that strict we wouldn't have so many illegal immigrants in SA you should be addressing that with the ANC manje obaba benu baphila ngama tender ANC senibona kungcono nibe relevent nge EFF. Mxm
What confused child-like politics
Zuma strategy "we are together - we are one thing" that's how he ate members from ANC, Malema learned nothing from that move and proceed to associate with MK, now we are together with EFF is eating their members, waiting for other parties of the so called progressive forces to suffer the same fate (as Makhubela Sara party and others that are swallowed ) 😂😂😂
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Bitter 😂😂😂😂😮😮😮
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Makahambe thina singa ma EFF loyalty red blood
Eff is a joke
@@YT-xk5jl you are a Zombie
Very soon, they will also deny that Floyd has ever been an EFF member, just as the ANCYL now claims that Floyd was a member of ANCYL but never a member of ANC. Sour grapes?
Floyd made it clear that he was not going to renew his membership🤷🏾♂️.