I feel like checo is only getting extended till he doesn’t get #2 in drivers. He’s a safe bet and comes with a lot of money. I feel like RB knows they can swap him for yuki any time next year if he does terrible rest of this season and they still pocket the some sponsorship money
I think F1 in general it's all about the money. It's a very expensive sport to participate in, even at the karting level so you rely on sponsors very early on to keep going. With football, it's one of the least expensive sports to participate in. Even at an organised level. Also with footballs teams they have other revenue streams like ticket/match day and broadcasting revenue whereas F1 teams don't have that. So again relying more on sponsorships to keep afloat So unless F1 teams can "own" other assets like broadcasting rights or ticket sales, money will definitely still be king
True, there are a few in F1 that would hae been milionaire without F1. Obviously Stroll and Latifi, I believe Lando and Charles are from fairly afluent families as well. But it certainly is not true for all of them. Of course, if you are able to have your kids do Karting as a sport, you probably have a bit more dough to share around than you and me since you are not done with a set of shoes and a uniform like in say soccer. But anyone that has followed the careers of Lewis and Max know that some of them rose the ranks by hussling and bussling. and contrary to popular believe, despite Jos having been a somewhat succesful F1 driver, the Verstappens were not miljonairs prior to Max driving in F1. Of course now... Max is the best paid sporstman in Dutch history. Not even some of our top soccer players make these amounts. And there are more drivers like that. Yuki, Gasly, Bottas and Hulk to name a few. As for Checo, it is not just the Carlos Slim sponsorship. Checo is the main "Red Bull" seller in Latin America and especially Mexico and the Mexican American market. Dropping him at this time could actually hurt the bottom line of the parent company. But yes... it is a 100% money driven choice.
I think the big reason the checo case is so weird, is because RB isn't (just) a racing team, it's a company. They want to make money (as a company) and i would dare say checo is quite literally the biggest money cow they have for the south/central american market
The main problem is not Money is King, the problem is F1 teams today feel some sort of need to do all that grassroots stuff. There's this push to get drivers into junior team and junior categories so that teams can show they are 'doing something'. This is artificially bringing in a lot of drivers that probably wouldn't have been there and giving them false hopes. It's a recent phenomenon. If you look at grids from junior series from ten to twenty years ago, there wasn't much talent there; there were very few academy drivers and the few that were there on talent were easy to spot; Lewis, Nico Rosberg, Sebastian Vettel, Nico Hulkenberg, etc. Now, with all these talent scout programs, there's a lot of dreams sold to drivers that, realistically, aren't going to ever make it to F1. But they make it to F2 or F3. Even as recently as 2017, there were very few academy drivers in F2. Winning F2 that year was easy for Charles because he was driving against drivers that were funding themselves to be there and he was one of only two or three drivers backed by an F1 academy (ie there on talent). Now, all these drivers from the different academies meet in F2 and because they are all competing against each other none of them stand out. At the end of the day it's the drivers with 'funding' that will generally get picked up i.e. Perez, 'marketing' Ricciardo, Honda-backed Yuki, over middle class Liam Lawson, or, Sauber chose Zhou Guanyu or Theo Pourchaire even though Pourchaire was their own academy driver. If F1 driver academies weren't so busy trying to find talented drivers to bring through the ranks no one would really worry drivers missing out on seats... they would never have been there in the first place!
It just makes me sad, like I understand that teams need money however I don't think they get that if they continue this way people are going to get BEYOND frustrated with the system and F1 is going to loose fans This doesn't even brush the surface of the whole nightmare show that Williams gave us by GIVING LOGANS CAR TO ALEX?? I am by the firm belief that if a person managed to make their way to f1 there is no reason why their seat should EVER be taken from them. I would understand if this was something that happened at the beginning of the season, such as there being one car that was better than the other and they had to give it to Alex because he had more potential to score points, but lowkey robbing Logan's car is really not it... Also I am just a die hard Yuki fan who is emo that he didn't get the seat 💔 #JusticeForTsunoda2024
you fail to see the truth here. its not money vs talent. its money vs money. either the guy brings in money outright or he brings in talent to make money. same thing.
The "money is king" mentality isn't new. In the beginning of motorsports (including F1) you had rich dudes who bought a car and would participate in races just because they could.
I feel like checo is only getting extended till he doesn’t get #2 in drivers. He’s a safe bet and comes with a lot of money. I feel like RB knows they can swap him for yuki any time next year if he does terrible rest of this season and they still pocket the some sponsorship money
That's why Lewis coming from a working class family, being the only black driver, and becoming one of the best (arguably THE best) is incredible.
Other drivers come from working clasd as well. Danny is another example
@@jmf5246 Ok, but a black driver? The example of Hamilton is the best one, and then becoming the best. Unreal.
No
Lewis is biracial not “ black guy”
I think F1 in general it's all about the money. It's a very expensive sport to participate in, even at the karting level so you rely on sponsors very early on to keep going. With football, it's one of the least expensive sports to participate in. Even at an organised level.
Also with footballs teams they have other revenue streams like ticket/match day and broadcasting revenue whereas F1 teams don't have that. So again relying more on sponsorships to keep afloat
So unless F1 teams can "own" other assets like broadcasting rights or ticket sales, money will definitely still be king
True, there are a few in F1 that would hae been milionaire without F1. Obviously Stroll and Latifi, I believe Lando and Charles are from fairly afluent families as well. But it certainly is not true for all of them. Of course, if you are able to have your kids do Karting as a sport, you probably have a bit more dough to share around than you and me since you are not done with a set of shoes and a uniform like in say soccer. But anyone that has followed the careers of Lewis and Max know that some of them rose the ranks by hussling and bussling. and contrary to popular believe, despite Jos having been a somewhat succesful F1 driver, the Verstappens were not miljonairs prior to Max driving in F1. Of course now... Max is the best paid sporstman in Dutch history. Not even some of our top soccer players make these amounts. And there are more drivers like that. Yuki, Gasly, Bottas
and Hulk to name a few.
As for Checo, it is not just the Carlos Slim sponsorship. Checo is the main "Red Bull" seller in Latin America and especially Mexico and the Mexican American market. Dropping him at this time could actually hurt the bottom line of the parent company. But yes... it is a 100% money driven choice.
I think the big reason the checo case is so weird, is because RB isn't (just) a racing team, it's a company. They want to make money (as a company) and i would dare say checo is quite literally the biggest money cow they have for the south/central american market
The main problem is not Money is King, the problem is F1 teams today feel some sort of need to do all that grassroots stuff. There's this push to get drivers into junior team and junior categories so that teams can show they are 'doing something'. This is artificially bringing in a lot of drivers that probably wouldn't have been there and giving them false hopes. It's a recent phenomenon. If you look at grids from junior series from ten to twenty years ago, there wasn't much talent there; there were very few academy drivers and the few that were there on talent were easy to spot; Lewis, Nico Rosberg, Sebastian Vettel, Nico Hulkenberg, etc.
Now, with all these talent scout programs, there's a lot of dreams sold to drivers that, realistically, aren't going to ever make it to F1. But they make it to F2 or F3. Even as recently as 2017, there were very few academy drivers in F2. Winning F2 that year was easy for Charles because he was driving against drivers that were funding themselves to be there and he was one of only two or three drivers backed by an F1 academy (ie there on talent).
Now, all these drivers from the different academies meet in F2 and because they are all competing against each other none of them stand out. At the end of the day it's the drivers with 'funding' that will generally get picked up i.e. Perez, 'marketing' Ricciardo, Honda-backed Yuki, over middle class Liam Lawson, or, Sauber chose Zhou Guanyu or Theo Pourchaire even though Pourchaire was their own academy driver. If F1 driver academies weren't so busy trying to find talented drivers to bring through the ranks no one would really worry drivers missing out on seats... they would never have been there in the first place!
It just makes me sad, like I understand that teams need money however I don't think they get that if they continue this way people are going to get BEYOND frustrated with the system and F1 is going to loose fans
This doesn't even brush the surface of the whole nightmare show that Williams gave us by GIVING LOGANS CAR TO ALEX?? I am by the firm belief that if a person managed to make their way to f1 there is no reason why their seat should EVER be taken from them.
I would understand if this was something that happened at the beginning of the season, such as there being one car that was better than the other and they had to give it to Alex because he had more potential to score points, but lowkey robbing Logan's car is really not it...
Also I am just a die hard Yuki fan who is emo that he didn't get the seat 💔 #JusticeForTsunoda2024
Money IS F1, like its been over 80 years of the sport. Money literally is king in this.
There has always been a certain amount of pay drivers in F1.
you fail to see the truth here.
its not money vs talent.
its money vs money.
either the guy brings in money outright or he brings in talent to make money. same thing.
The "money is king" mentality isn't new. In the beginning of motorsports (including F1) you had rich dudes who bought a car and would participate in races just because they could.
Why don't you propose changing f1 so that teams don't need money. Such as making it stock car racing.