Fallout76 isn't all that bad to be honest. It's a real fun time with a friend. But yeah after Starfield I don't think anyone should care about what BGS makes anymore.
@Leboobs22 The TV show did New Vegas dirty. Its also set in California, which is pretty pathetic. Every god damn TV show and movie has been set in California for the past 70 years. I want Fallout in Texas, New York or Alaska already.
Starfield for me was the de facto game to decide whether they still got it or so done with them... Starfield showed exactly that they just lost the plot so hard.
@@Vert_GreenHeart They've been this bad for a long time. The only reason the Elder Scrolls and Bethesda developed Fallout games were decent is that they were building on other people's creation. They bought the lore and world of Fallout, and the people that created the Elder Scrolls lore and world have been gone from Bethesda for a long time.
@@grimvisionz91 Join the club. After playing Oblivion, F3, Skyrim, and F4 enough to bore me to tears, I realized that 80+% of them were the same game, and the one dimensional characters, poor writing, and bad code didn't enamor me. I didn't need to see 76 or Starfailed to know that I was done with Todd's games.
I have zero faith in any Western AAA company creating a game in the same vein as Fallout 3 let alone Fallout New Vegas. I don't really even trust them with a remaster either. These great games are unfortunately products of their time. I'm currently playing both of them now through the Tale of Two Wastelands mod(s). Bless all the modders that contributed their time and abilities to make that happen.
People give fallout 3 a lot of shit tho I've always loved the atmosphere of the game. Even tho im only 1 year older than the game I find a lot of the choices and whatnot a lot more expansive than modern games. However I do feel that all modern titles aren't bad, we got baldurs gate 3 which although I haven't played yet is supposed to be a pretty true rpg.
@@naimad2610 not a soul gave fallout 3 any backlash in 2008 aside from the original ending properly ending your playthrough. until mothership zeta came out which was mid
You're getting at the underlying problem with Fallout 76 in this video: It has undermined any incentive on Bethesda's part to get a new proper single-player Fallout game out. Even as disastrous as that game's launch was, it has nevertheless become, in Bethesda's eyes, the main Fallout game. All of the effort that would have gone into making a new game has instead gone into that thing and all of the subsequent efforts to expand and update Fallout 76 have likewise drawn time, energy and resources away from a new singleplayer game. As long as Fallout 76 continues to draw in enough players, especially whales, to continue to make it profitable, Bethesda can point to it and say, "See, we ARE creating new Fallout content for players!" even if what those players really want is a singleplayer player game. The situation with Fallout 76 is a prime example of why live service games are a cancer on the industry. They're usually bad games on their own terms, they promote predatory monetization practices, the drive by publishers to create them draws resources away from creating good non-live service games, and, thanks again to the whales, live service games only need to be marginally successful to continue to be supported by the publishers, which draws further resources away from creating other types of games.
@AA-vf9jb wouldn’t prevent said company from shutting Bethesda down and either she splitting the IPs Amon their other studios or selling them off if Bethesda ends up burning more cash than they bring in (which Xbox as a whole is doing which is why they are going multiplatform to avoid Microsoft axing their gaming division)
@AA-vf9jb ms has closed down many notable game studios bethesda isn't untouchable the moment they become less profitable ms will pull the plug and honestly maybe it's for the best they are creatively bankrupt unable to produce a goid game that isn't a dumpster fire and riddled with bugs last good games they made was fallout 3 and skyrim
@shadewolf0075 Even if true, Bethesda is definitely in a safer situation than most other MS studios. You forget that the developer has delivered two massively successful games in the recent past - fallout 76 and elder scrolls online. In this day and age where online engagement and micro- transactions are more important than initial sales, I believe Bethesda is in as strong a position as Blizzard. Also Microsoft's cloud business is its biggest profit generator and games like these contribute to that demand
It’s starting to hit me how much I hate AAA game company culture in general. It’s clear that in AAA studios probably 90% of their employees are totally useless and talentless. These companies have a zillion employees, and so few of them are competent at anything. The fact that a game even releases is due to maybe 10-20 key devs I’m guessing. Maybe fewer than that. The rest are all imposters who don’t belong in the industry. Everyone who has a bullshit job like story writer or whatever the hell Todd Howard supposedly does need to get out.
@@mattmartin6493 Its not just that. Half of their developers are made up of those ADHD kids you probably remember from high school who said they were going to be game designers in the future. Well look at them now. They went to college, got a degree in game design or computer science, and now they sit in a cubacle watching Jacksepticeye and eating popcorn all day while they let ChatGPT write all of their code for them. 😂
that's because over 90% of their employees are Leftover Women Feminists and Activists that by their own words hate gaming and gamers they also have No Education or knowledge about well anything really let alone game development
Bethesda employs about 450 people, split between many projects. They're not useless, every single one of them is almost certainly multiple times more successful and intelligent than you. You should get a job, as well. No way this comment came from an employed person.
We should be in a golden age with the massive improvements in game tech and graphics. The number of IPs out there either gathering dust or being mishandled by incompetent or woke studios is staggering.
Thats the paradox ;-) We *could* have had TES6 with goodness knows what lore, adventuring, spells, wars, rpg elements and all manner of incredible content, but its better to put all that on hold so that we can run galactic fetch quests in Starfield.
BG3 had body type 1 and 2, same thing with Palworld yet does games are highly liked. Focus on game quality and throw away your political agenda when it comes to judging games.
@@stefanradebach2889It's a balancing act. If a game is good and fun, most people can stomach small amounts of political nonsense. Fill the game to the brim with overt propaganda nobody will like it no matter how good the game is. Plus politics directly affect how good a game is. Because the more time devs try shoehorning politics into video games the less time is spent on the game itself.
You don't want Obsidian touching the remasters or making a new Fallout game. Read up on Avowed and its art director. I'll just say it's involved in the culture war. No, I'm not on either side, but Obsidian is no longer what it used to be. Just look into it.
Chris Avellone isn't even there anymore, so they automatically don't have access to one of their better writers. Outer Worlds proved how most of the writing team is just GONE now. I would say nXile with Brian Fargo is probably the only good RPG studio they have now. People seemed pretty big on Wasteland 3.
Yeah inXile are still doing well. Bryan Fargo still seems to know how to make a good RPG and as far as I know they haven't been captured by the culture war.
With how much infected Bethesda is, I don't think we will have a faithful Remake /Remaster of older titles rather we will have watered down versions of them 😔
Unfortunately, it's nothing new for Bethesda, it's just their normal way of thinking and acting. They think that with Fallout they just have a kind of Disney World that they just have to fill with weird, funny and exciting things and then the whole thing is over. Unfortunately, it's not like that, because Fallout has always been more, much more, it was like the Stalker series or the Metro series. But that didn't stop Tod Howard from using everything as a springboard for his idea of Disneyland Fallout editions. Tim Cain invented it and Bethesda killed it.
Youre a bot right? Fallout games as we know them only exist at all in the first place because of Bethesda, they can't possibly be any more than they've made it, and the massive success of the franchise is attributable virtually solely to them. What dumpsters is your framework pulling data from to generate these garbage responses?
No New Vegas 2. No sequels. Fucking tired of follow-ups. New Vegas is great but it's done. Just need a re-release on an actual, functional engine so Obsidian can put all of the cut content back in and then some.
I’ve wanted a fallout game in Chicago, Texas, Florida, or Alaska. I’d want Chicago for the snow environment and the enclave lore. But only in an obsidian made game. If Bethesda was making it I’d probably want it to be in Alaska since that location fits their forte.
@@fizz_time7003 Alaska and Texas are literally perfect, but if I had to bet $1m on it I would bet it all on California. Its pretty obvious Bethesda is 1. lazy, 2. pretty "L word" (political), and 3. probably wants to milk the show now instead of the games themselves. So I would bet a million on Fallout 5 being set in Los Angeles and being the most boring game ever made. Oh yeah also they gotta milk the dying "silicon valley" BS about LA being great. 💀
I liked 4. Played all night after going to a midnight release. Great world, interesting locations, best gunplay. Some side quests were really good too and some of the characters were great.
Doubtful anything like it will happen in a lifetime with these absolutely ridiculous release windows. Maybe 3-4 fallout games in 40 years, insane! Even then they could be disappointing. Imagine waiting 10 years for another round of starfield
It didn’t . Fallout 1 is the first game I bought . I played it. Completed it. Liked it. And I still enjoyed 4. By not being stuck in the past. It was an evolution - the story has its flaws and some locations could have been handled better (Quincy, the robot race ,.) but there is a much stronger gameplay loop in F4 than in any other entry. shooting-exploring-building. They all work with each other. There is a flow and a loop. And the idea of rebuilding civilization very much fits with post-apocalyptic genre. Especially in survival mode every mechanism and skills become useful and it really clicks together. It’s organic. They could definitely have done a few things better but the core gameplay loop is rock-solid and can be expanded . And the power armor feel more powerful than they ever been. And each faction has its own way of controlling the map : supply chain, vertibird, teleportation grenade , . And the companions might be among the bests with good voice acting, own storylines and strong like/dislikes. I get it’s not what some people wanted, they wanted more adventure like story / obsidian choice and consequences / scripted paths . But Fallout have constantly evolved from the start, the sales of F4 were fantastic and blew out of the water every other entry , it brought a new original core gameplay that can be further refined. And obsidian can still put out games of their own like Outer World 2 if that’s what you are into. There’s no reason to get religious about it. I am not stuck on Fallout 1 . So I don’t get why some kids who started with FNV want to get all dogmatic about what Fallout is. Some gamers want to die on the weirdest hills.
So now we have a better AC game but it's called Ghost of Tsushima... and a better hero shooter than Overwatch called Rivals... and a better diablo game called Path of Exile. They're not from just western or easter game studios. The main thing that I connect them is that *there's still market for such games.* What are they called or who made them matters little. There will be a better fallout/ES games. They wont be called that or be from Bethesda. Just stay vigilant curb that brand loyalty a bit and soon that market gap will soon be taken.
I'd rather see the Fallout franchise die, than see another Fallout game made by Bethesda or modern Obsidian. I sure as hell don't want either of those studios to remaster old Fallout games. There's a wide open market right now for a non-woke team to develop something similar to Fallout. There's a good chance if someone does, it would be better than what Bethesda would crap out.
Judging a team based entirely on vague ideological nonsense is just plain ridiculous, especially as "woke" has an extremely fluctuating definition that is entirely based on ideological extremists who hate anything that is remotely progressive.
Oh hell no don't let Obsidian touch this franchise. They are not what they used to be. Starfield isn't that bad, and lays the groundwork for some insane mods, many of which have already been released. There's already a Doom mod for this game. Heck you could build a Fallout London type world inside the Starfield universe if you wanted to.
fallout 4 was my first ever fallout, loved it and bought 3, new vegas, and even have the original titles 1-2 but 76 messed it up for me. just wish they improve their systems and not release another Starfield
Don't they continue to use an over twenty-year engine, called the Creation Engine, still? Not exactly offering any positives. Fallout 76 pretty much destroyed their image for various reasons and it doesn't seem likely that they'll ever recover at this pace.
AI thumbnail with the same negative conjecture as a million other negative conjecture hating on Bethesda videos. At this point I'm starting to suspect people aren't even bothering to use Chatgpt to write these. They're just copy/pasting scripts.
Bethesda desperately need competition. But who is making moddable FPS RPGs?? (That are not "body type 1/2" games...) An alternative to the Creation Engine that allows for large, moddable open FPS RPG games would help... Also, Fallout: London finally released, at least, and other large fan-made Fallout projects are in progress.
Exacly, there gotta be more games like that. There are other open world rpgs but they lack stuff like character creation or mods so I end up always going back to bethesda games even tho they're slopifying.
Why is everyone pretending like Starfield was a bad game lately? Maybe it's only above avarage, and very dissapointing for a Bethesda title, but it's not a bad game.
Fallout 3 recently got updated for consoles to run at 4K 60fps. New Vegas I think is stuck at 720p for Xbox.. But nah, they're fine. I'd much rather resources be diverted anywhere else.
Given the fact that their arrogance is stuck in 2011 I’m not expecting much out of the elder scroll six let alone even a fallout remastered and yes, I mean the first game because that is actually the one that would most benefit from updates. Starfield was a flop. Fallout 76 is my favorite dumpster fire, but it took years and offering it for free on game pass for it to actually become something I enjoyed. And it very much so shows that Bethesda is doubling down on their practices. I doubt the elder scrolls six will learn any lessons from other games like Elden ring or Witcher three and likely will just be a prettier version of Skyrim with a different story. I hope they can commission somebody to make a fallout one remake without it becoming a nuclear disaster. Honestly, I don’t expect much out of Bethesda anymore.
There is absolutely no reason AAA games should be having these ridiculous development cycles. It would be one thing if after 8 years they came out as super polished super packed with content best game of all time contenders, but they still come out as rushed slop fests whether they get 2 years or 8.
Gta san andreas took 2 years to make, fallout new vegas took 18 months. I wonder why modern game developers have such strange release windows, maybe it's because of technological advancements but even back then making these games would have been as hard.
The best solution to this problem, IMHO, would be to license the IPs to other studios. When Microsoft bought Bethesda I was faintly optimistic that the executives would do exactly that. Surely, I thought, they would look at Bethesda's release schedule, say, "It's insane that you're not putting more games out!" and force Bethesda to license the IPs when no new games in a series were due for the next several years. Surely, I thought, the executives have to realize that they're tossing money away by not doing that. But, apparently not. The lesson here is "Never, ever underestimate the sheer stupidity of entertainment industry executives."
At this point any game I was hyped for say 5 years ago if were still waiting ive moved on,most game companies I used to love I cant stand the sight of now. Were at a point where even if they do get released I dont know if ill ever even bother with another Elder scrolls,fallout or mass effect. All series I used to be obsessed with. Dont have any faith that the current company making these could put out anything good anymore Last night I heard about a leak of an Oblivion remaster and Oblivion is the game that got me into elder scrolls and well bethesda games over all so fallout so close behind after that and I didnt feel a thing,theyve gone to far and lets be honest a remaster wont do much as even new bestheda games dont look that amazing graphically,especially the characters . I ll be surprised if Bethesda ever gets another cent of my money
I have 5 predictions that Bethesda will do in Fallout 5 and all are not good: 1) The story will have us looking for our sibling, who have escape for their vault. 2) The Brotherhood of Steel and the Enclave will be fighting against each other. 3) Ammo will be reduced to small, medium, large, and energy. 4) There will be a large settlement/vault ruled by a "strong and independent" woman and it's a paradise. 5) All the songs will be the same as in Fallout 3 and 4; there will be no songs from Frank Sinatra, Ray Charles, or Elvis Presley.
Anything that came out fromBethesda after FO76 and Starfield been comments along the lines of: „Players simply don’t get it, making games is hard. We are geniuses“. How can you expect anything but another bad game if this is the mindset?
Another issue people aren't seeing is that Microsoft doesn't push their studios hard enough, or at the very least they just let them do their own thing. Part of the reason we haven't seen anything good come from Bethesda. They've been into this comfy zone where they can keep making the same crap with no external interference. This looks good om paper, don't rush your studios to make a game faster. But they aren't really creating boundaries or goal posts for their studios. It's just "Yep, make your game and we'll release regardless of its quality. We trust that you'll make a good game."
I always thought it would be kinda cool if you could add a fallout 3 or 4 planet into Starfield. Like you land on a planet at it's just the complete Fallout 3 in the "new" engine
Fallouts dead, the games are anyway, Bethesda simply isn’t talented enough to make a good game. Unless they have another company make the next Fallout game which is a 0% chance then Fallout is cooked
After the last FO4 update, I don't think anyone is excited about a FO3 remake (if made by Bethesda). Bethesda seems to like to break an existing half working game and then just walking away from it, leaving fans high and dry with a broken hot mess. That's not cool at all
I found fallout 4 quite fun but it was seriously lacking with the story. One thing I didnt like tho was that due to the voiced protagonist, quest mods weren't as developed as for Skyrim.
For awhile before certain devs started to talk about how they hate gamers and showing their true selves I used to think games just took waaaay fucking longer to make now and there still is probably some truth to that but it really seems like theres so much bloat,toxic positivity,corpo shit and incompetence getting in the way. Ya hear about concord being in dev for 8 years but after those 8 years they basically had nothing done and other people were brought in to whip things into shape for release which didnt help much clearly.
i have never been so bored of game releases, every release has issues that people point out and things still slowly change. i dont care about remasters or future games, EVERY studio is feeling the repercussions of hiring based on identity. i barely care about gta 6 also, i dont wanna play a 500 dollar console for one game, and they do have the ability to work on PC releases, its total BS that these companies still have rabid fans defending every action taken.
No hope for Bethesda making a good Fallout game after the disappointment that was Fallout 4 (it is fun to play when modded though) Fallout 76 and Starfield. Their passion is gone like most of the AAA devs out there today. But I have been playing Fallout London and it is a fun game, easily the best Fallout game since New Vegas.
Fallout 4 was so bad that it pushed me to the Witcher 3 and Metro series. I played 2033 on 360 before, but didn't play it long, so I got back into the series later on.
"Hand over to obsidian"? Really? They weren't the good developers they used to be. I would really just want them to lay off the remasters and remakes, and let these good games have their deserved rest.
I'm sure there is some developer outside of Bethesda developing something or at least, soon will be. I don't believe that Microsoft would let Fallout die like this, being such a highly valued IP.
5:30 honestly I don’t see a reason for Microsoft to remake fallout 3/ nv people can still play them through backwards compatibility (because Microsoft isn’t completely unneeded like Sony after the PS3). They would need to seriously add content to the original to make them worth it (and I am not talking about paid mods todd).
Tbh i really dont want Obsidian making New Vegas 2 or whatever Fallout. Tbh, i just want a remastered Fallout 3 and New Vegas for the frame rate issues and fixing NV game crashing, and yes i would love a port of Fallout 1 and 2 to modern comsoles. But yeah, we can always dream. I really dont trust Bethesda or Obsidian. If they made New Vegas 2, it'll suck compared to its predecessor. I still go back to 3 and NV and i dont care now. These games were made in the best of years for gaming. Sadly i believe those days are long gone now for Fallout. Not sure about Elder Scrolls 6? I know that's Bethesda's baby. So if they fuck that up then im sorry but Bethesda will be a lost course. I mean look at Fallout London? I trust modders and Indie devs with a Fallout game then any other AAA studio. But yeah i whole heartly agree with you, man. 💪👍
Remaster != Remake. It clearly stated on that leak a Fallout 3 REMASTER, NOT a remake. That said, I am holding my breath with any possible upcoming games from Bethesda.
Its been 14 years since the last elder scrolls game was released to think we'll be waiting till 2028 or later is absurd it will have been damn near 20 years almost between Skyrim and TES 6!
20 years is absolutely ridiculous, honestly the 5 to 8 year gaps we get for trash AAA games today is ignorant. I understand games take longer to develop now, however studios having 1000 employees a good 60 percent if which do nothing except cost money, enforce HR culture, and make everything take longer are a huge part of the problem.
With how Fallout 4, 76 and the show have been handled, I have zero hope for the future of this series. Bethesda clearly doesn't care about consistency or respecting source material. They just want the perpetual wasteland with all the right brand imagery regardless of whether it makes sense or not. They're not capable of developing the world in a way that's interesting or meshes with what came before. Even worse, the community is already being overrun with tourists swarming the IP for the first time thinking Bethesda's version of Fallout is all that matters.
I genuinely don’t understand why Bethesda doesn’t have 50% of their developers working on Elder Scrolls, while the other 50% works on Fallout. I feel like a decade to 12 years should be the goal for how long it takes to release the next game in their franchises. Also there’s just recently been a lot of talk that an Oblivion remake would be the first remake for the studio. 2026, that marks the 20th anniversary for Oblivion and would make sense as the best year to release elder scrolls 6. I feel that at least one of those two are definitely coming out after next year.
The problem is Obsidian is absolutely not the same company they used to be look at Avowed art director. Chris Avellone got railroaded and is gone, and unfortunately Josh Sawyer has become extremely political.
Its absolutely astounding that new vegas was made in less than 2 years while bethesda sit on billions have a ridicolous amount of employees, better tech than ever and yet it will take around 20 years to make a game that probably still wont be as good as new vegas. The problem aint the resources they have, the employees or even a lack of talant, its the sheer lack of love for the games and by extension the fans. I mean the 76 anniversery was just pathetic. Bethesda use to live to make games now they make games to live..
These are products of their time, people should go on with their lives and invest their time in something else. You got enough quality games from the east that you can play instead, like ''Stellar Blade'' and ''Black Myth: Wukong''.
Someone else needs to make a high level nuclear apocalypse game. Bethesda is done. Neither. Replaying old games isn't appealing, it's old and has been played to death. A New Vegas 2 would be the next intelligent play, but again Bethesda is trash today, so we need a completely new studio and IP.
You guys need to grow up, seriously. Stop chasing sequels because you want to feel like a teenager again. The games are out there, just under a different name.
Unpopular opinion: The next Fallout game won't be named Fallout, it'll be a different IP and made by a studio that actually cares about what the players want.
I know that Bethesda is way WAY behind on the release schedules for both Elder Scrolls AND Fallout but are you not comforted by the realisation that the years of delays with those beloved titles were necessary in order to bring Starfield into the world? I mean, can you imagine a world without Starfield? Seems to me to be a very small price to pay to rest easy in bed of an evening knowing that a tour'de'force like Starfield exists, we'll all be playing that non-stop for the next five or six years anyway, won't we?
Across all platforms, Fallout 4 still sees a MUCH larger playerbase than Fallout 76, which is insane considering 76 is supposed to be an MMORPG and is a much more recent title. That alone proves to me that their writing and game design has dropped hard and a Fallout 5 might actually be the first Fallout to ever flop. If it even comes out in my lifetime I wont have my hopes up one bit. I can bet it will be a POS full of microtransactions and steer far away from the player choice RPG design and more towards a linear FPS game, since thats what the 76 crowd seems to want Fallout to be. Its a damn shame. Fallout will probably end up being a 50's retro futuristic Call of Duty in the future...
For the foreseeable future I think we better be satisfied with what was made previously. I don't trust anyone to remake an old game with out a modern spin to it. Certainly not Microsoft/Bethesda/Obsidian. Best to leave well enough alone.
Fallout 76 could basically be fallout 5 but boring because you cannot really kill anyone apart from hostiles and neither car you get mods in 76. which is sad
I don’t want another fallout game unless it’s a return to fallout 3 and new Vegas’s desolate aesthetic. Fallout 4 is genuinely so off putting with its bright colors and misunderstanding of the franchises theme that I had to play with mods that REPLACED a massive amount of the 60’s futuristic stuff because it just ruins the setting for me. It doesn’t fit the brown, green, and gray that defines the setting and the metal buildings just look plain stupid. We should’ve gotten a Boston more reminiscent of the van Buren concept art and the fallout 2 opening scene slideshow pictures.
If anything gets remade it needs to be the 1st 2 games. We don't need a remake or remaster of F.O. 3 or New Vegas. I don't think Bethesda or Obsidian have the talent to make a worthy F.O. sequel. I wish they'd just find another talented and based studio to contract the game out to. If they expect me ot wait 20 years for a sequel, they can f*ck right off. Sell it or let it die. I'm sure most of us feel that way.
after Fallout76 and Starfield, why is anyone still expecting anything?
Bethesda is not good at making games full stop.
Exactly... Fallout 76 and ESO were made to keep people busy for decades to come but they did not go as they wanted.
Todd Howard outlived his usefulness. Someone should make him retire. If you just removed him and nothing else, that alone would make things improve.
@@alcoyot I believe his right-hand man Emil Pagliarulo is tenfolds much worse than Todd.
Fallout76 isn't all that bad to be honest. It's a real fun time with a friend. But yeah after Starfield I don't think anyone should care about what BGS makes anymore.
I low key don’t want them to touch those franchises anymore because they will screw them up.
20 years to make it and they're still going to fumble it lol
@Leboobs22 The TV show did New Vegas dirty. Its also set in California, which is pretty pathetic. Every god damn TV show and movie has been set in California for the past 70 years. I want Fallout in Texas, New York or Alaska already.
will? brother they have 💀
"low key"? You that afraid to voice your opinion?
Leave it to Obsidian instead, no more Bethesda
After 76 and starfield, I'm honestly over Bethesda. I got mods and their older titles. I don't need Bethesda anymore.
Starfield for me was the de facto game to decide whether they still got it or so done with them... Starfield showed exactly that they just lost the plot so hard.
@@Vert_GreenHeart I gave up half way through the tutorial it was so bad.
@@Vert_GreenHeart They've been this bad for a long time. The only reason the Elder Scrolls and Bethesda developed Fallout games were decent is that they were building on other people's creation. They bought the lore and world of Fallout, and the people that created the Elder Scrolls lore and world have been gone from Bethesda for a long time.
me but with fallout 4. Ruined the series just as bad as 76 tbh
@@grimvisionz91 Join the club. After playing Oblivion, F3, Skyrim, and F4 enough to bore me to tears, I realized that 80+% of them were the same game, and the one dimensional characters, poor writing, and bad code didn't enamor me. I didn't need to see 76 or Starfailed to know that I was done with Todd's games.
I have zero faith in any Western AAA company creating a game in the same vein as Fallout 3 let alone Fallout New Vegas. I don't really even trust them with a remaster either. These great games are unfortunately products of their time. I'm currently playing both of them now through the Tale of Two Wastelands mod(s). Bless all the modders that contributed their time and abilities to make that happen.
Hell yeah
@@slicedtopieces that mod is beyond legendary. Best mod in the history of modding imo
People give fallout 3 a lot of shit tho I've always loved the atmosphere of the game. Even tho im only 1 year older than the game I find a lot of the choices and whatnot a lot more expansive than modern games. However I do feel that all modern titles aren't bad, we got baldurs gate 3 which although I haven't played yet is supposed to be a pretty true rpg.
@@naimad2610 not a soul gave fallout 3 any backlash in 2008 aside from the original ending properly ending your playthrough. until mothership zeta came out which was mid
@@naimad2610nah fallout 3 is fine. It's just shadowed by new Vegas, but it isn't by any means a bad game
You're getting at the underlying problem with Fallout 76 in this video: It has undermined any incentive on Bethesda's part to get a new proper single-player Fallout game out. Even as disastrous as that game's launch was, it has nevertheless become, in Bethesda's eyes, the main Fallout game. All of the effort that would have gone into making a new game has instead gone into that thing and all of the subsequent efforts to expand and update Fallout 76 have likewise drawn time, energy and resources away from a new singleplayer game. As long as Fallout 76 continues to draw in enough players, especially whales, to continue to make it profitable, Bethesda can point to it and say, "See, we ARE creating new Fallout content for players!" even if what those players really want is a singleplayer player game.
The situation with Fallout 76 is a prime example of why live service games are a cancer on the industry. They're usually bad games on their own terms, they promote predatory monetization practices, the drive by publishers to create them draws resources away from creating good non-live service games, and, thanks again to the whales, live service games only need to be marginally successful to continue to be supported by the publishers, which draws further resources away from creating other types of games.
Once Ubisoft goes under in 6 months. Bethesda is next.
How so. Bethesda is owned by the richest company in the tech world!!
@AA-vf9jb wouldn’t prevent said company from shutting Bethesda down and either she splitting the IPs Amon their other studios or selling them off if Bethesda ends up burning more cash than they bring in (which Xbox as a whole is doing which is why they are going multiplatform to avoid Microsoft axing their gaming division)
@@shadewolf0075accurate!
@AA-vf9jb ms has closed down many notable game studios bethesda isn't untouchable the moment they become less profitable ms will pull the plug and honestly maybe it's for the best they are creatively bankrupt unable to produce a goid game that isn't a dumpster fire and riddled with bugs last good games they made was fallout 3 and skyrim
@shadewolf0075 Even if true, Bethesda is definitely in a safer situation than most other MS studios. You forget that the developer has delivered two massively successful games in the recent past - fallout 76 and elder scrolls online.
In this day and age where online engagement and micro- transactions are more important than initial sales, I believe Bethesda is in as strong a position as Blizzard. Also Microsoft's cloud business is its biggest profit generator and games like these contribute to that demand
It’s starting to hit me how much I hate AAA game company culture in general. It’s clear that in AAA studios probably 90% of their employees are totally useless and talentless. These companies have a zillion employees, and so few of them are competent at anything. The fact that a game even releases is due to maybe 10-20 key devs I’m guessing. Maybe fewer than that. The rest are all imposters who don’t belong in the industry. Everyone who has a bullshit job like story writer or whatever the hell Todd Howard supposedly does need to get out.
Its a bunch of DEI hires people can ignore it, but its true easily at least 65 percent of employees do nothing but cost money and enforce HR culture.
@@mattmartin6493 Its not just that. Half of their developers are made up of those ADHD kids you probably remember from high school who said they were going to be game designers in the future.
Well look at them now. They went to college, got a degree in game design or computer science, and now they sit in a cubacle watching Jacksepticeye and eating popcorn all day while they let ChatGPT write all of their code for them. 😂
@@mattmartin6493 its not even dei they just stockpile literally anyone who could possibly make a game to prevent competition
that's because over 90% of their employees are Leftover Women Feminists and Activists that by their own words hate gaming and gamers they also have No Education or knowledge about well anything really let alone game development
Bethesda employs about 450 people, split between many projects. They're not useless, every single one of them is almost certainly multiple times more successful and intelligent than you. You should get a job, as well. No way this comment came from an employed person.
We should be in a golden age with the massive improvements in game tech and graphics. The number of IPs out there either gathering dust or being mishandled by incompetent or woke studios is staggering.
Thats the paradox ;-) We *could* have had TES6 with goodness knows what lore, adventuring, spells, wars, rpg elements and all manner of incredible content, but its better to put all that on hold so that we can run galactic fetch quests in Starfield.
Bet. They will definitely censor Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas.
And instead of sex, there will be type A and type B.
The. Freaking. Horrors.
Like can you imagine?? What should we all do then 😭😭
BG3 had body type 1 and 2, same thing with Palworld yet does games are highly liked.
Focus on game quality and throw away your political agenda when it comes to judging games.
@@stefanradebach2889It's a balancing act. If a game is good and fun, most people can stomach small amounts of political nonsense.
Fill the game to the brim with overt propaganda nobody will like it no matter how good the game is.
Plus politics directly affect how good a game is. Because the more time devs try shoehorning politics into video games the less time is spent on the game itself.
@@robinnewhouse1563
Great argument if you're a 12 year old
@@stefanradebach2889
How about developers throw out their garbage politics when making games. It's not us making it political
You don't want Obsidian touching the remasters or making a new Fallout game. Read up on Avowed and its art director. I'll just say it's involved in the culture war. No, I'm not on either side, but Obsidian is no longer what it used to be. Just look into it.
Chris Avellone isn't even there anymore, so they automatically don't have access to one of their better writers. Outer Worlds proved how most of the writing team is just GONE now. I would say nXile with Brian Fargo is probably the only good RPG studio they have now. People seemed pretty big on Wasteland 3.
The outer worlds was also very lackluster
Yeah inXile are still doing well. Bryan Fargo still seems to know how to make a good RPG and as far as I know they haven't been captured by the culture war.
Omg. They went woke ???
They drowned in woke.
Obsidian is NOT the Obsidian you’re thinking of, hell no!
Yes. I state that at least 3 times in this video lol
@ dude, state that the first time you mention Obsidian, don’t expect me to wait to the end of the video to hear you say that Obsidian sucks
Bruh he said obsidian ain’t the same like 3 minutes into the vid. You that big of a peanut brain?
@ I guess so, move on
@@petemisc4291How does Obsidian suck? They have 0 bad games.
With how much infected Bethesda is, I don't think we will have a faithful Remake /Remaster of older titles rather we will have watered down versions of them 😔
They aren't infected, they just lost their good staff over the years. Similar to what happened to Bioware.
Unfortunately, it's nothing new for Bethesda, it's just their normal way of thinking and acting. They think that with Fallout they just have a kind of Disney World that they just have to fill with weird, funny and exciting things and then the whole thing is over.
Unfortunately, it's not like that, because Fallout has always been more, much more, it was like the Stalker series or the Metro series. But that didn't stop Tod Howard from using everything as a springboard for his idea of Disneyland Fallout editions.
Tim Cain invented it and Bethesda killed it.
Youre a bot right? Fallout games as we know them only exist at all in the first place because of Bethesda, they can't possibly be any more than they've made it, and the massive success of the franchise is attributable virtually solely to them. What dumpsters is your framework pulling data from to generate these garbage responses?
No New Vegas 2. No sequels. Fucking tired of follow-ups. New Vegas is great but it's done. Just need a re-release on an actual, functional engine so Obsidian can put all of the cut content back in and then some.
I’ve wanted a fallout game in Chicago, Texas, Florida, or Alaska. I’d want Chicago for the snow environment and the enclave lore. But only in an obsidian made game. If Bethesda was making it I’d probably want it to be in Alaska since that location fits their forte.
@@fizz_time7003 Alaska and Texas are literally perfect, but if I had to bet $1m on it I would bet it all on California. Its pretty obvious Bethesda is 1. lazy, 2. pretty "L word" (political), and 3. probably wants to milk the show now instead of the games themselves. So I would bet a million on Fallout 5 being set in Los Angeles and being the most boring game ever made.
Oh yeah also they gotta milk the dying "silicon valley" BS about LA being great. 💀
@@evil1st i swear ive heard todd say they would want to do a completely different storyline in a different location.
based on the tv show it probably cant happen but who knows
@@evil1st yeah im pretty sure the show is their way of colonizing the old lore with the whole nuking the ncr off the map and such
Fallout died at the 4th one, NV being that last good one. You won’t see another good Fallout game until someone else gets the rights.
I liked 4. Played all night after going to a midnight release. Great world, interesting locations, best gunplay. Some side quests were really good too and some of the characters were great.
Doubtful anything like it will happen in a lifetime with these absolutely ridiculous release windows. Maybe 3-4 fallout games in 40 years, insane! Even then they could be disappointing. Imagine waiting 10 years for another round of starfield
Oh, I like Fallout 4. It is a great game, not in many aspects, but everything tells a story, there are interesting skills, and a bunch of cool guns.
It didn’t . Fallout 1 is the first game I bought . I played it. Completed it. Liked it.
And I still enjoyed 4. By not being stuck in the past.
It was an evolution - the story has its flaws and some locations could have been handled better (Quincy, the robot race ,.) but there is a much stronger gameplay loop in F4 than in any other entry. shooting-exploring-building. They all work with each other. There is a flow and a loop. And the idea of rebuilding civilization very much fits with post-apocalyptic genre. Especially in survival mode every mechanism and skills become useful and it really clicks together. It’s organic. They could definitely have done a few things better but the core gameplay loop is rock-solid and can be expanded . And the power armor feel more powerful than they ever been. And each faction has its own way of controlling the map : supply chain, vertibird, teleportation grenade , . And the companions might be among the bests with good voice acting, own storylines and strong like/dislikes.
I get it’s not what some people wanted, they wanted more adventure like story / obsidian choice and consequences / scripted paths . But Fallout have constantly evolved from the start, the sales of F4 were fantastic and blew out of the water every other entry , it brought a new original core gameplay that can be further refined. And obsidian can still put out games of their own like Outer World 2 if that’s what you are into. There’s no reason to get religious about it.
I am not stuck on Fallout 1 . So I don’t get why some kids who started with FNV want to get all dogmatic about what Fallout is. Some gamers want to die on the weirdest hills.
Until they finaly make an actaul nee engine instead of updating that ancient thing one more time
0:28 I never said this, everything this guy said so far is a complete lie.
Gotta give the people a New Vegas 2. Talk about sales🎉
So now we have a better AC game but it's called Ghost of Tsushima... and a better hero shooter than Overwatch called Rivals... and a better diablo game called Path of Exile. They're not from just western or easter game studios. The main thing that I connect them is that *there's still market for such games.* What are they called or who made them matters little. There will be a better fallout/ES games. They wont be called that or be from Bethesda. Just stay vigilant curb that brand loyalty a bit and soon that market gap will soon be taken.
Its called stalker 2
I'd rather see the Fallout franchise die, than see another Fallout game made by Bethesda or modern Obsidian. I sure as hell don't want either of those studios to remaster old Fallout games. There's a wide open market right now for a non-woke team to develop something similar to Fallout. There's a good chance if someone does, it would be better than what Bethesda would crap out.
Judging a team based entirely on vague ideological nonsense is just plain ridiculous, especially as "woke" has an extremely fluctuating definition that is entirely based on ideological extremists who hate anything that is remotely progressive.
You have to be intelligent to develop video games, that's why there's no conservative game developers.
Wait, what did Obsidian do wrong now?
A group of protestors stormed Tod Howards office and they are demanding he sign the rights of Fallout back over to Obsidian :P
6:15 - Take away Fallout 4 and that makes it a 5 year window.
The atrocious ai thumbnails are inescapable
Oh hell no don't let Obsidian touch this franchise. They are not what they used to be. Starfield isn't that bad, and lays the groundwork for some insane mods, many of which have already been released. There's already a Doom mod for this game. Heck you could build a Fallout London type world inside the Starfield universe if you wanted to.
fallout 4 was my first ever fallout, loved it and bought 3, new vegas, and even have the original titles 1-2 but 76 messed it up for me. just wish they improve their systems and not release another Starfield
TES6 and F5 will be shit.
Facts. It's the company itself that needs to change.
keep hating
Don't they continue to use an over twenty-year engine, called the Creation Engine, still? Not exactly offering any positives. Fallout 76 pretty much destroyed their image for various reasons and it doesn't seem likely that they'll ever recover at this pace.
Starfield definitely didn't help...
AI thumbnail with the same negative conjecture as a million other negative conjecture hating on Bethesda videos. At this point I'm starting to suspect people aren't even bothering to use Chatgpt to write these. They're just copy/pasting scripts.
Bethesda desperately need competition. But who is making moddable FPS RPGs?? (That are not "body type 1/2" games...) An alternative to the Creation Engine that allows for large, moddable open FPS RPG games would help...
Also, Fallout: London finally released, at least, and other large fan-made Fallout projects are in progress.
Exacly, there gotta be more games like that. There are other open world rpgs but they lack stuff like character creation or mods so I end up always going back to bethesda games even tho they're slopifying.
Fallout london releasing gave me a lot of hope, I think in 2025 some big skyrim mods will be releasing too so I'm looking forward to that.
@@naimad2610try the stalker series
Over customization and reliance on the player to make their own world killed the magic of exploration in their games.
Why is everyone pretending like Starfield was a bad game lately? Maybe it's only above avarage, and very dissapointing for a Bethesda title, but it's not a bad game.
Why don't they remaster fallout 3 and new Vegas?? Wtf man I know tons of people would buy it!!!!!!!
Fallout 3 recently got updated for consoles to run at 4K 60fps. New Vegas I think is stuck at 720p for Xbox.. But nah, they're fine. I'd much rather resources be diverted anywhere else.
There are many mods foe the original game. Doubt the modders will start patching a near two decades old titles with lipstick.
Remaster and remakes are made today to keep ip under cupyright most youtubers just to dense to se
A fallout 3 & New vegas remaster gonna doit for me this gen
After the release of Stalker 2 im sad to say that im moving on from Fallout. After the recent bethesda flops. My hopes for FO5 and ES6 are crushed.
Announce Larian is making Fallout 5. Win the internet.
Elder Scrolls Fans: First time?
4:21 peak fallout new vegas
Given the fact that their arrogance is stuck in 2011 I’m not expecting much out of the elder scroll six let alone even a fallout remastered and yes, I mean the first game because that is actually the one that would most benefit from updates. Starfield was a flop. Fallout 76 is my favorite dumpster fire, but it took years and offering it for free on game pass for it to actually become something I enjoyed. And it very much so shows that Bethesda is doubling down on their practices. I doubt the elder scrolls six will learn any lessons from other games like Elden ring or Witcher three and likely will just be a prettier version of Skyrim with a different story. I hope they can commission somebody to make a fallout one remake without it becoming a nuclear disaster. Honestly, I don’t expect much out of Bethesda anymore.
There is absolutely no reason AAA games should be having these ridiculous development cycles. It would be one thing if after 8 years they came out as super polished super packed with content best game of all time contenders, but they still come out as rushed slop fests whether they get 2 years or 8.
Gta san andreas took 2 years to make, fallout new vegas took 18 months. I wonder why modern game developers have such strange release windows, maybe it's because of technological advancements but even back then making these games would have been as hard.
God damnit, I’m stuck with broke ass fallout 4 for 20 years?! Might as well forget about this franchise entirely. I feel burned
Is that a ai thumbnail?
The best solution to this problem, IMHO, would be to license the IPs to other studios. When Microsoft bought Bethesda I was faintly optimistic that the executives would do exactly that. Surely, I thought, they would look at Bethesda's release schedule, say, "It's insane that you're not putting more games out!" and force Bethesda to license the IPs when no new games in a series were due for the next several years. Surely, I thought, the executives have to realize that they're tossing money away by not doing that. But, apparently not.
The lesson here is "Never, ever underestimate the sheer stupidity of entertainment industry executives."
5:05 - Pretty sure this became "Avowed".
Time to move on to new studious. Not waiting 20 years for a fucking game, no matter how good it is (it won’t be).
At this point any game I was hyped for say 5 years ago if were still waiting ive moved on,most game companies I used to love I cant stand the sight of now. Were at a point where even if they do get released I dont know if ill ever even bother with another Elder scrolls,fallout or mass effect. All series I used to be obsessed with. Dont have any faith that the current company making these could put out anything good anymore
Last night I heard about a leak of an Oblivion remaster and Oblivion is the game that got me into elder scrolls and well bethesda games over all so fallout so close behind after that and I didnt feel a thing,theyve gone to far and lets be honest a remaster wont do much as even new bestheda games dont look that amazing graphically,especially the characters . I ll be surprised if Bethesda ever gets another cent of my money
Oblivion remaster coming in 2025, and not far off. Have heard nothing on fallout, other than more content for 76
Yeah sorry but I can’t take anyone seriously who uses an AI image as a thumbnail
I have 5 predictions that Bethesda will do in Fallout 5 and all are not good:
1) The story will have us looking for our sibling, who have escape for their vault.
2) The Brotherhood of Steel and the Enclave will be fighting against each other.
3) Ammo will be reduced to small, medium, large, and energy.
4) There will be a large settlement/vault ruled by a "strong and independent" woman and it's a paradise.
5) All the songs will be the same as in Fallout 3 and 4; there will be no songs from Frank Sinatra, Ray Charles, or Elvis Presley.
Would love see a video on the Gameawards from you
Anything that came out fromBethesda after FO76 and Starfield been comments along the lines of: „Players simply don’t get it, making games is hard. We are geniuses“.
How can you expect anything but another bad game if this is the mindset?
Going to be honest i dont want anymore Elderscrolls, Fallouts, or Starfields. New stuff sucked. Im good, thanks.
Another issue people aren't seeing is that Microsoft doesn't push their studios hard enough, or at the very least they just let them do their own thing.
Part of the reason we haven't seen anything good come from Bethesda.
They've been into this comfy zone where they can keep making the same crap with no external interference.
This looks good om paper, don't rush your studios to make a game faster.
But they aren't really creating boundaries or goal posts for their studios.
It's just "Yep, make your game and we'll release regardless of its quality. We trust that you'll make a good game."
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
Why are people still talking about Bethesda like there's anything good to expect?
I always thought it would be kinda cool if you could add a fallout 3 or 4 planet into Starfield. Like you land on a planet at it's just the complete Fallout 3 in the "new" engine
Bring back the enclave and make it a joinable faction
Fallouts dead, the games are anyway, Bethesda simply isn’t talented enough to make a good game. Unless they have another company make the next Fallout game which is a 0% chance then Fallout is cooked
After the last FO4 update, I don't think anyone is excited about a FO3 remake (if made by Bethesda). Bethesda seems to like to break an existing half working game and then just walking away from it, leaving fans high and dry with a broken hot mess. That's not cool at all
Too busy updating garbage starfield
giving how s*** was fo4 no wonder
Game was a disappointment but fun with mods
@@Nomad-bl4yw if you need mods to make a game fun ...
what am i saying, *GOD BLESS THE ENCLAVE! GOD BLESS AMERICA!*
I found fallout 4 quite fun but it was seriously lacking with the story. One thing I didnt like tho was that due to the voiced protagonist, quest mods weren't as developed as for Skyrim.
@@naimad2610 FNV was an upgrade to Fo3 while Fo4 has new mechanics but also cut out mechanics like different ammo types
For awhile before certain devs started to talk about how they hate gamers and showing their true selves I used to think games just took waaaay fucking longer to make now and there still is probably some truth to that but it really seems like theres so much bloat,toxic positivity,corpo shit and incompetence getting in the way. Ya hear about concord being in dev for 8 years but after those 8 years they basically had nothing done and other people were brought in to whip things into shape for release which didnt help much clearly.
i have never been so bored of game releases, every release has issues that people point out and things still slowly change. i dont care about remasters or future games, EVERY studio is feeling the repercussions of hiring based on identity. i barely care about gta 6 also, i dont wanna play a 500 dollar console for one game, and they do have the ability to work on PC releases, its total BS that these companies still have rabid fans defending every action taken.
Dude what's with the AI Thumbnail?
No hope for Bethesda making a good Fallout game after the disappointment that was Fallout 4 (it is fun to play when modded though) Fallout 76 and Starfield. Their passion is gone like most of the AAA devs out there today.
But I have been playing Fallout London and it is a fun game, easily the best Fallout game since New Vegas.
Fallout 4 was so bad that it pushed me to the Witcher 3 and Metro series. I played 2033 on 360 before, but didn't play it long, so I got back into the series later on.
literally ANYONE but modern obsidian
Obsidian cannot make a good Fallout game at this point.
Would love to know if the fallout 4 gameplay in the background is from a custom modpack or not, and if not, what the name is
"Hand over to obsidian"?
Really? They weren't the good developers they used to be.
I would really just want them to lay off the remasters and remakes, and let these good games have their deserved rest.
Who is going to tell bro?
I dont care about Bethesda anymore. War Horse is the new standard for RPG development.
KCD my beloved.
Too bad I can't stand the combat system. Otherwise it would be right up my alley.
@abstr4cted496 i didnt like it at first either but then I played hardcore mode and it clicked.
I'm sure there is some developer outside of Bethesda developing something or at least, soon will be. I don't believe that Microsoft would let Fallout die like this, being such a highly valued IP.
Maybe if they didn't rush a greasy brown stain to get dumped out in our toilets, we would have Fallout 5 in 2022 and not Fallout 76 in 2018.
5:30 honestly I don’t see a reason for Microsoft to remake fallout 3/ nv people can still play them through backwards compatibility (because Microsoft isn’t completely unneeded like Sony after the PS3). They would need to seriously add content to the original to make them worth it (and I am not talking about paid mods todd).
The realization of a potential 20 year gap between F4 and 5 hit like a truck
Tbh i really dont want Obsidian making New Vegas 2 or whatever Fallout.
Tbh, i just want a remastered Fallout 3 and New Vegas for the frame rate issues and fixing NV game crashing, and yes i would love a port of Fallout 1 and 2 to modern comsoles.
But yeah, we can always dream. I really dont trust Bethesda or Obsidian. If they made New Vegas 2, it'll suck compared to its predecessor.
I still go back to 3 and NV and i dont care now. These games were made in the best of years for gaming. Sadly i believe those days are long gone now for Fallout.
Not sure about Elder Scrolls 6? I know that's Bethesda's baby. So if they fuck that up then im sorry but Bethesda will be a lost course.
I mean look at Fallout London? I trust modders and Indie devs with a Fallout game then any other AAA studio.
But yeah i whole heartly agree with you, man. 💪👍
Remaster != Remake.
It clearly stated on that leak a Fallout 3 REMASTER, NOT a remake.
That said, I am holding my breath with any possible upcoming games from Bethesda.
Its been 14 years since the last elder scrolls game was released to think we'll be waiting till 2028 or later is absurd it will have been damn near 20 years almost between Skyrim and TES 6!
20 years is absolutely ridiculous, honestly the 5 to 8 year gaps we get for trash AAA games today is ignorant. I understand games take longer to develop now, however studios having 1000 employees a good 60 percent if which do nothing except cost money, enforce HR culture, and make everything take longer are a huge part of the problem.
Playing new vegas as a 10 year old had me thinking "Damn, can't wait to see what is next" then these mfs gave us FO4 lmao
As a huge Fallout fan
Considering how shitty 4 and 76 were, I’ve lost all hope for Fallout 5 years ago
at this rate i think fallout london counts. as a bloody new fallout game. im tired of the company. they needa get theree shit together.
With how Fallout 4, 76 and the show have been handled, I have zero hope for the future of this series. Bethesda clearly doesn't care about consistency or respecting source material. They just want the perpetual wasteland with all the right brand imagery regardless of whether it makes sense or not. They're not capable of developing the world in a way that's interesting or meshes with what came before. Even worse, the community is already being overrun with tourists swarming the IP for the first time thinking Bethesda's version of Fallout is all that matters.
That's an entire generation between games that won't see a new fallout,, madness
I genuinely don’t understand why Bethesda doesn’t have 50% of their developers working on Elder Scrolls, while the other 50% works on Fallout. I feel like a decade to 12 years should be the goal for how long it takes to release the next game in their franchises.
Also there’s just recently been a lot of talk that an Oblivion remake would be the first remake for the studio. 2026, that marks the 20th anniversary for Oblivion and would make sense as the best year to release elder scrolls 6. I feel that at least one of those two are definitely coming out after next year.
The problem is Obsidian is absolutely not the same company they used to be look at Avowed art director. Chris Avellone got railroaded and is gone, and unfortunately Josh Sawyer has become extremely political.
Its absolutely astounding that new vegas was made in less than 2 years while bethesda sit on billions have a ridicolous amount of employees, better tech than ever and yet it will take around 20 years to make a game that probably still wont be as good as new vegas. The problem aint the resources they have, the employees or even a lack of talant, its the sheer lack of love for the games and by extension the fans. I mean the 76 anniversery was just pathetic. Bethesda use to live to make games now they make games to live..
After the way they screwed up Fallout 4 with the May update, no one in their right mind would buy a Fallout 5.
These are products of their time, people should go on with their lives and invest their time in something else. You got enough quality games from the east that you can play instead, like ''Stellar Blade'' and ''Black Myth: Wukong''.
Someone else needs to make a high level nuclear apocalypse game. Bethesda is done. Neither. Replaying old games isn't appealing, it's old and has been played to death. A New Vegas 2 would be the next intelligent play, but again Bethesda is trash today, so we need a completely new studio and IP.
What I would like to see is BGS get liquidated and new studios formed around each of Bethesda’s IPs staffed with the top talent available.
You guys need to grow up, seriously.
Stop chasing sequels because you want to feel like a teenager again.
The games are out there, just under a different name.
Maybe name examples instead of telling people to "grow up" if you really believe what you're saying?
Keep in mind that Fallout 1 , 2 and tactics have only 2 years each between them
Unpopular opinion: The next Fallout game won't be named Fallout, it'll be a different IP and made by a studio that actually cares about what the players want.
I know that Bethesda is way WAY behind on the release schedules for both Elder Scrolls AND Fallout but are you not comforted by the realisation that the years of delays with those beloved titles were necessary in order to bring Starfield into the world? I mean, can you imagine a world without Starfield? Seems to me to be a very small price to pay to rest easy in bed of an evening knowing that a tour'de'force like Starfield exists, we'll all be playing that non-stop for the next five or six years anyway, won't we?
Across all platforms, Fallout 4 still sees a MUCH larger playerbase than Fallout 76, which is insane considering 76 is supposed to be an MMORPG and is a much more recent title.
That alone proves to me that their writing and game design has dropped hard and a Fallout 5 might actually be the first Fallout to ever flop.
If it even comes out in my lifetime I wont have my hopes up one bit. I can bet it will be a POS full of microtransactions and steer far away from the player choice RPG design and more towards a linear FPS game, since thats what the 76 crowd seems to want Fallout to be.
Its a damn shame. Fallout will probably end up being a 50's retro futuristic Call of Duty in the future...
For the foreseeable future I think we better be satisfied with what was made previously. I don't trust anyone to remake an old game with out a modern spin to it. Certainly not Microsoft/Bethesda/Obsidian. Best to leave well enough alone.
Fallout 76 could basically be fallout 5 but boring because you cannot really kill anyone apart from hostiles and neither car you get mods in 76. which is sad
Problem: Bethesda HATES Obsidian.
@@xsavagealex but do you really think things will change all that much? That old saying "new boss same as the old boss."
I wouldn’t be surprised if they work with Team FOLON to release Fallout: London as a official release. It would do the job at stalling a new game.
Next Fallout game should be placed in Colorado it would be so cool to walk around a destroyed downtown Denver
I don’t want another fallout game unless it’s a return to fallout 3 and new Vegas’s desolate aesthetic. Fallout 4 is genuinely so off putting with its bright colors and misunderstanding of the franchises theme that I had to play with mods that REPLACED a massive amount of the 60’s futuristic stuff because it just ruins the setting for me. It doesn’t fit the brown, green, and gray that defines the setting and the metal buildings just look plain stupid. We should’ve gotten a Boston more reminiscent of the van Buren concept art and the fallout 2 opening scene slideshow pictures.
If anything gets remade it needs to be the 1st 2 games. We don't need a remake or remaster of F.O. 3 or New Vegas. I don't think Bethesda or Obsidian have the talent to make a worthy F.O. sequel.
I wish they'd just find another talented and based studio to contract the game out to. If they expect me ot wait 20 years for a sequel, they can f*ck right off. Sell it or let it die. I'm sure most of us feel that way.