he also lost his brother during quarantine and his brother has always been a big part of his writing and music. that may make it difficult for him to return back to music yk.
I feel like the fact fans who commented on his post about his passing as a sign that he can make new songs off of that is what possibly added to not caring about the fans
@@GeorgiaRoadHD he doesn’t have to lol. I went last year and am going back next year in hopes of seeing him but even if they put him on the lineup to sell tickets he can just back out at any time. They’ve done this 3 times in the last 4 Coachellas.
They kind of are, the people that consume their art are the reasons they have luxuries and the position they're currently at. While they're not obligated to put out art, it's definitely wrong to deprive their fans of art when they're the reason they're the big artist that they are.
No artist has any obligation to create anything other than what inspires them. The best art isn’t created with the fans in mind. We get to experience it, but it’s not for us.
Frank doesn't owe the fans anything. And the brand homer isn't for us, his fans, but the ones buying it are his fans just because Frank's associated to it. That's not Frank's fault and he didn't market it to them that way. But the fans are insanely obsessed with clout these days. Frank is doing Frank. And we should be happy for the man.
I can see that. The ones who can afford it are those able to and are close to frank. It’s like when we share our skills with our close friends such as baking a cake, making food, or great art. We can care less about those we aren’t making it for.
Yeah man, this seems to be extremely undervalued by the great majority of people. I couldn't imagine losing my little brother - that event would end up being the sole most crushing thing in my life. I felt with Frank when I heard the news and I still do. I can't imagine what this feels like and if he gave up making music entirely because of it, I would completely understand
@@canamargera If he wants more exposure and the big numbers he once had before all those years back when he dropped Blonde he’d probably want to have a distributor to help release his new material and promote all his stuff. I mean it’s been years and a lot’s changed since he disappeared again so it’s not like he can just do what he did before and expect the exact same results. During that time he was still signed to Def Jam and his contract was just about to expire and he was building up hype for his next release. He won’t lock himself into a contract like he did with Def Jam and have to spend years trying to finesse his way outta them. This time if he’s gonna do it, he’d be doin’ it on his own terms. Since he now has the money, fame and respect from his peers. I mean look at The Weeknd, he has his own label XO and has a distribution deal with Republic Records. If Frank can find someone to get a good deal out of to distribute his music through his own label that’d be beneficial for him in the end.
I haven’t started the video yet but as soon as I saw the title I was like “I hope he doesn’t”. They are artists, they produce the art that you like and enjoy, why are people suddenly attached to the person, rather than the projects they put out? Personally I just think it’s weird when celebrities get too close to their audience and act like “one big family” and Vice versa, when the fans worship certain celebrities, who are strangers to them, to an extent where they feel entitled to something.
Artists have no obligation to their fans. If you like an artist and their work, you can choose to show your appreciation by supporting them. However, this does not entitle anyone to that artist or any work they may or may not make. Frank is a great artist, but he’s a human being first and foremost. Just like you don’t owe anyone anything, neither does he.
his blonde radios are gems might not be new Music from him but he puts out freestyles sometimes which are dope and also has three very unique interviews which is technically a frank project and he also posted that he was going to go on tour in 2020 Covid happened then his brother died but he still making art it might not be musically but he has a jewelry brand decent merch and a very interesting interviewing concept
are we forgetting frank lost his brother tragically , he doesn't owe us anything honestly if he never put out anything else it should be enough for his fans To be fully fed for a bunch of different reasons
With his tour being canceled due to covid in 2020, and then his teenage brother dying the same year its been hard for frank to create, and show it to the entire world he's supposedly headlining Coachella and I think he's releasing music and art when he wants and how he wants and I'm a fan of that I have no issue waiting for an album especially after knowing the tragic events that took place
@killinyadreamz I was about to say this, I’m literally going to Coachella hoping to see him but I honestly doubt he’ll be there. They’ve used names to sell tickets in the past (Beyonce, Frank, Kanye) there’s nothing holding them to it lol.
Nostalgia Ultra Mixtape, Lonny Breaux Mixtape; which is basically undocumented Rare and unreleased misc 1,2, and 3, Chanel Orange, Endless, Blond, numerous singles and more unreleased music is what makes me not care if he doesn’t care about someone he doesn’t know :0 He gotta take care of himself again maybe before his he can focus on millions… lot of stuff happened to this dood… let’s just be patient :)
Bruh he’s literally just a human being, and people just need to understand that. I love frank ocean and he’s my favorite artist but damn he’s made masterpieces and he’s only human and can’t produce more to your needs and wants.
Frank also made a post on his ig where he said that he wanted to tour in 2020 but it was canceled because of the pandemic and never got any updates on that
He’s an artist, “artist”. Not assistant to a person or the people. He makes what he wants and does what he wants just as the rest of us do and have the choice to do… Let him do what he wants and don’t care if he does the opposite of what you might “want” him to do. Support him if you want, or don’t.
Everyone’s saying that Frank doesn’t owe people anything, but its not just that. Bro has yet to say anything about the shipping issues for products people bought a long ass time ago
people are still upset about getting their products late? if he hasn’t addressed it for a few years, he’s saying he doesn’t care lmfao. they should just either file a lawsuit (that they’ll lose) or move tf on.
@@corey6572 so this is how he treats his fans who have supported him so rabbidly throughout the years? Sounds like a shitty artist ngl, especially if he does this shit charging $80 for like a magazine or like $60 for a shirt while also selling $27k cock rings on the side, no wonder I don't wanna listen to this dude's music
what happened to "living in an idea, and idea from another man's mind" artists don't need to use their entire lifeforce to keep satiating fans appetites, until fans say when. no matter how much money he made from "fans." its a blessing he made art, and it was a blessing he was supported; neither was an obligation, (outside of legal contractual agreements, of course.)
He has no obligation to do anything for the fans I want a new album as much as anyone but I’m greatful for what we already have and I understand that he has a life too
One thing I hate about fandoms is the entitlement to an artists content, Frank literally lost his little brother not too long ago but you feel like you deserve music. Get over yourselves and just be patient.
you guys are selfish as hell… frank ocean, a regular joe, built himself up as a singer/songwriter, recovered his masters from his record labels and then went platinum as an independent. from there he set his flagpole on the moon, investing what he earned from the music industry to place himself firmly in another industry, jewelry. not only is this another route he clearly likes expressing himself through, but man is dealing in the business of appreciating assets! so what if we can’t afford it; somebody who was just like us built himself to be in that position before 40 years old. him and his family will probably set for generations because he built homer. we should look up to him and strive to do what he has done. “after all this time i thought average was something to fall back on after genius ends” -frank ocean, higgs
and tbh, if i had the opportunity to work with raw precious metals, i would feel like i was selling myself short using cheap materials to create just so everybody can have a slice.
he made $20 million off blonde alone so with ur logic of "10 fold" ur saying he made $200 million off of his merchandise and brand, bit of a stretch in my opinion.
Let's clear something up tho. Frank Ocean fans, like many rap fans, are entitled snakes that don't truly care about the art. Frank doesn't owe you anything. He doesn't have to release a second of more music for you. He doesn't have to compromise his integrity as an artist to appease his fans. Frank's music comes from dark and emotional places. Who knows what he's dealing with as a person. Being a good fan and wholeheartedly accepting his art for what it is means respecting Frank as a person, not an artist. You don't get to get new music just because you want it.
I mean he does if we pay $80 for a magazine or $60 for a shirt, or like $50 for a poster and it doesn't arrive or it arrives bent/crumpled, especially if he wants to sell jewelry lol
@@Machi we’re probably just conditioned to hear this every now and then as Frank fans. I feel like every couple months to a year I see something like this so much so that it’s always the same repeated things being said. We won’t get the album.
Stop wanting things from artists. They’re not here for you or anyone else, they just do cool stuff and leave. Don’t get why people always on this bandwagon, just chill.
great video but taylor wasn’t forced to become pop by her label, she actually chose that route for herself and got pushback from the label when she tried to.
bro i get what youre saying, but you cant just expect someone to create an album. if it was that easy to create something like blonde everyone would do it.
Everyone: Frank doesn't owe his fans anything!!11!1111!!!!1 Frank: Sending out crumpled $50 posters and $80 magazines, not shipping shirts for months or at all, expects fans to eat up 27k Minecraft shaped cock rings
I don't understand why he can't just be...human. People are really mentally ill to be acting like this. All you have to do is support the art that comes out, why does it have to be so complicated? You don't know these artists, get a grip
he also lost his brother during quarantine and his brother has always been a big part of his writing and music. that may make it difficult for him to return back to music yk.
I feel like the fact fans who commented on his post about his passing as a sign that he can make new songs off of that is what possibly added to not caring about the fans
Remember he has to perform at Coachella 2023
@@nerfboss9040 or maybe…just maybe…he has writers block
@@GeorgiaRoadHD he doesn’t have to lol. I went last year and am going back next year in hopes of seeing him but even if they put him on the lineup to sell tickets he can just back out at any time. They’ve done this 3 times in the last 4 Coachellas.
RIP RYAN BREAUX
Artist are human, they have no obligation to put out anymore art at any point
exactly
Thank you
They kind of are, the people that consume their art are the reasons they have luxuries and the position they're currently at. While they're not obligated to put out art, it's definitely wrong to deprive their fans of art when they're the reason they're the big artist that they are.
@@tracy_748 why should he care about someone else's opinion and so called obligations ?
@@antpeep huh?
When you’re as talented as Frank, people take whatever crumbs fall out of your sandwich and then say “thank you, Sir.”
Or whichever gold ring falls of his cock...
Lol crumbs
Even that crumbs are not easy get when u r a Frank fan
Just like kanye
Talent? His music sucks
No artist has any obligation to create anything other than what inspires them. The best art isn’t created with the fans in mind. We get to experience it, but it’s not for us.
Art is meaningless without fan fare
@@leod8489 the act of making art is deeply meaningful into itself
@@leod8489 what a lame way of thinking
@@weirdguy4948 Hey you snorkeling simpleton. When you get off the pot art is in your view
@@leod8489 no.
Frank doesn't owe the fans anything. And the brand homer isn't for us, his fans, but the ones buying it are his fans just because Frank's associated to it. That's not Frank's fault and he didn't market it to them that way. But the fans are insanely obsessed with clout these days. Frank is doing Frank. And we should be happy for the man.
I can see that. The ones who can afford it are those able to and are close to frank. It’s like when we share our skills with our close friends such as baking a cake, making food, or great art. We can care less about those we aren’t making it for.
thank you!
oh shut up 🙄
Frank was gearing up to release a project and then his brother died which I can only imagine how he felt. I understand why he disappeared again.
His lost Not stopping him from still scamming his fans with merch and selling cuck rings
Yeah man, this seems to be extremely undervalued by the great majority of people. I couldn't imagine losing my little brother - that event would end up being the sole most crushing thing in my life. I felt with Frank when I heard the news and I still do. I can't imagine what this feels like and if he gave up making music entirely because of it, I would completely understand
he doesnt care about me, i know he doesnt. i just needed to hear it, thank you
Lmfao
This hits deeper especially when you’ve been with someone who acts like this
@@S1D3_1 hope ur okay 🥰
He was label-shopping late last year and showing labels his album. I’m sure he’ll take his time. If it means we get amazing music, I’ll wait.
I saw this too, but what does label shopping mean? I thought he had his own label Boys Don’t Cry?
@@canamargera He needs a distributor
@@scifinerd17 is he not big enough to not have to go that route? He didn’t need Def Jam for Blonde and look
how it turned out
@@canamargera If he wants more exposure and the big numbers he once had before all those years back when he dropped Blonde he’d probably want to have a distributor to help release his new material and promote all his stuff. I mean it’s been years and a lot’s changed since he disappeared again so it’s not like he can just do what he did before and expect the exact same results. During that time he was still signed to Def Jam and his contract was just about to expire and he was building up hype for his next release.
He won’t lock himself into a contract like he did with Def Jam and have to spend years trying to finesse his way outta them. This time if he’s gonna do it, he’d be doin’ it on his own terms. Since he now has the money, fame and respect from his peers.
I mean look at The Weeknd, he has his own label XO and has a distribution deal with Republic Records. If Frank can find someone to get a good deal out of to distribute his music through his own label that’d be beneficial for him in the end.
I haven’t started the video yet but as soon as I saw the title I was like “I hope he doesn’t”. They are artists, they produce the art that you like and enjoy, why are people suddenly attached to the person, rather than the projects they put out? Personally I just think it’s weird when celebrities get too close to their audience and act like “one big family” and Vice versa, when the fans worship certain celebrities, who are strangers to them, to an extent where they feel entitled to something.
these frank ocean fans are parasocial as fuck just because he made songs that helped them get through their depression.
Artists have no obligation to their fans. If you like an artist and their work, you can choose to show your appreciation by supporting them. However, this does not entitle anyone to that artist or any work they may or may not make. Frank is a great artist, but he’s a human being first and foremost. Just like you don’t owe anyone anything, neither does he.
Imma DM him real quick, ask where the album at 👍 don’t worry guys, I got this 😎❤
What'd he say?
@@Jeffreydefinitelynotdahmer he ain’t see it yet 🥲
@@1risingninja how bout now?
😂🙈
@@1risingninja Damn
Love the video as always...the way you do it makes it fun to watch
I was just wonderign the other day about this, maybe enough time has passed for him to drop a new album. So, here to 2057!
Love the video, the story of Frank's career never gets old.
his blonde radios are gems might not be new Music from him but he puts out freestyles sometimes which are dope and also has three very unique interviews which is technically a frank project
and he also posted that he was going to go on tour in 2020 Covid happened then his brother died
but he still making art it might not be musically but he has a jewelry brand decent merch and a very interesting interviewing concept
Frank is already legendary. as much as i want new music from him, he doesn’t need to prove anything or owe us anything
the title lmao
👀
@@TofuMediaOfficial 👀
Honestly after teasing us with DHL I genuinely stopped caring, he can release or not. Doesn't matter
so underrated, love your editing
Frank Ocean don't care about Black People
- Kanye West 2001
this is a great vid, please keep it up i love em 😫
are we forgetting frank lost his brother tragically , he doesn't owe us anything honestly if he never put out anything else it should be enough for his fans To be fully fed for a bunch of different reasons
“I ain’t on no schedule” !!!!!!
I feel like too many people forget his brother died tragically…
With his tour being canceled due to covid in 2020, and then his teenage brother dying the same year its been hard for frank to create, and show it to the entire world he's supposedly headlining Coachella and I think he's releasing music and art when he wants and how he wants and I'm a fan of that I have no issue waiting for an album especially after knowing the tragic events that took place
great video!! do more long form content, the shorts are amazing but man can you capture my attention with the 8 minutes in this one
I don't know if anyone knows this
Frank has to perform at Coachella 2023, we might get new music next year or this year. Time will tell probably
@killinyadreamz what country does he live in?
@@User61918 Cuba
@@josephhoagie7869 damn actually ? or is that just a reference to a line or sum
@killinyadreamz I was about to say this, I’m literally going to Coachella hoping to see him but I honestly doubt he’ll be there. They’ve used names to sell tickets in the past (Beyonce, Frank, Kanye) there’s nothing holding them to it lol.
@killinyadreamz I thought he lived in New York
Nostalgia Ultra Mixtape, Lonny Breaux Mixtape; which is basically undocumented Rare and unreleased misc 1,2, and 3, Chanel Orange, Endless, Blond, numerous singles and more unreleased music is what makes me not care if he doesn’t care about someone he doesn’t know :0 He gotta take care of himself again maybe before his he can focus on millions… lot of stuff happened to this dood… let’s just be patient :)
Bruh he’s literally just a human being, and people just need to understand that. I love frank ocean and he’s my favorite artist but damn he’s made masterpieces and he’s only human and can’t produce more to your needs and wants.
Let's just hope he drops in 2022 🙏🏼🙏🏼
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Frank is not the typical celebrity archetype; he makes music, he makes jewellery, he makes what he wants to make. He doesn't desire the limelight.
Damn it. It’s so true. I’ll never abandon my fandom for Frank Ocean.
Frank ocean is a musical genius and he's been through a lot esp with his brother I don't think we need to rush him
Yooo sick video you better keep posting
Frank also made a post on his ig where he said that he wanted to tour in 2020 but it was canceled because of the pandemic and never got any updates on that
He said that because he knew the world was about to shut down...
man it’s 2023 now
He’s an artist, “artist”. Not assistant to a person or the people. He makes what he wants and does what he wants just as the rest of us do and have the choice to do… Let him do what he wants and don’t care if he does the opposite of what you might “want” him to do. Support him if you want, or don’t.
Frank Ocean doesn’t even know I exist. Why should I expect him to care about me?
But you know who does? Obama. Obama Care.
soooo true
@@chosokamosgf da tru tru
It’s like an abusive relationship. I just want frank to want me like I want him 🥺
Everyone’s saying that Frank doesn’t owe people anything, but its not just that. Bro has yet to say anything about the shipping issues for products people bought a long ass time ago
people are still upset about getting their products late? if he hasn’t addressed it for a few years, he’s saying he doesn’t care lmfao. they should just either file a lawsuit (that they’ll lose) or move tf on.
@@corey6572 i was under the impression that for some people the product never arrived but idk
@@corey6572 so this is how he treats his fans who have supported him so rabbidly throughout the years? Sounds like a shitty artist ngl, especially if he does this shit charging $80 for like a magazine or like $60 for a shirt while also selling $27k cock rings on the side, no wonder I don't wanna listen to this dude's music
you look like lalo salamanca
LMAOO
Yeah we have been starving out here at Frank Fans
even though i didnt learn anything new, cool video, thanks
what happened to “i should be payin them mama”
what happened to "living in an idea, and idea from another man's mind"
artists don't need to use their entire lifeforce to keep satiating fans appetites, until fans say when. no matter how much money he made from "fans." its a blessing he made art, and it was a blessing he was supported; neither was an obligation, (outside of legal contractual agreements, of course.)
I like Frankie O but I just keep forgetting about him lol
He has no obligation to do anything for the fans I want a new album as much as anyone but I’m greatful for what we already have and I understand that he has a life too
I swear I seen someone else make a video about this topic
One thing I hate about fandoms is the entitlement to an artists content, Frank literally lost his little brother not too long ago but you feel like you deserve music. Get over yourselves and just be patient.
you guys are selfish as hell… frank ocean, a regular joe, built himself up as a singer/songwriter, recovered his masters from his record labels and then went platinum as an independent. from there he set his flagpole on the moon, investing what he earned from the music industry to place himself firmly in another industry, jewelry. not only is this another route he clearly likes expressing himself through, but man is dealing in the business of appreciating assets! so what if we can’t afford it; somebody who was just like us built himself to be in that position before 40 years old. him and his family will
probably set for generations because he built homer. we should look up to him and strive to do what he has done.
“after all this time i thought average was something to fall back on after genius ends”
-frank ocean, higgs
and tbh, if i had the opportunity to work with raw precious metals, i would feel like i was selling myself short using cheap materials to create just so everybody can have a slice.
I feel like this goes for any celebrity people worship and idolize these famous people that will never know who tf you are.
I’ve been trying to promote myself in this method. There is definitely a leg up in being ominous when you have hella seed money
...he also lost his younger brother in a car accident not too long ago
What’s the background music? 😭
He shouldn’t care about anyone demanding anything from him.
Its evident that yall have never lost a loved one. He cant /just/ return to making normal music. He lost his goddamn BROTHER ffs.
What if blonde genuinely is last album omg 🥲
he made $20 million off blonde alone so with ur logic of "10 fold" ur saying he made $200 million off of his merchandise and brand, bit of a stretch in my opinion.
Me: **Looks down at Diamond, Encrusted, Frank Ocean, Cock Ring and contemplates the artist I’ve been supporting**
I just want music
comment of the century
Ok I’m throwing away my $16 replica homer plus pendant
Are you trying to tell me Frank hasn’t been think bout me
Why would he care about me if he doesnt know me
Artist don't owe you anything
Let's clear something up tho. Frank Ocean fans, like many rap fans, are entitled snakes that don't truly care about the art. Frank doesn't owe you anything. He doesn't have to release a second of more music for you. He doesn't have to compromise his integrity as an artist to appease his fans. Frank's music comes from dark and emotional places. Who knows what he's dealing with as a person. Being a good fan and wholeheartedly accepting his art for what it is means respecting Frank as a person, not an artist. You don't get to get new music just because you want it.
I mean he does if we pay $80 for a magazine or $60 for a shirt, or like $50 for a poster and it doesn't arrive or it arrives bent/crumpled, especially if he wants to sell jewelry lol
never had an issue with my records being delivered
isnt this a reupload or something i swear i seen this title and topic before
i was thinking the same
@@Machi we’re probably just conditioned to hear this every now and then as Frank fans. I feel like every couple months to a year I see something like this so much so that it’s always the same repeated things being said. We won’t get the album.
Stop wanting things from artists. They’re not here for you or anyone else, they just do cool stuff and leave. Don’t get why people always on this bandwagon, just chill.
Exactly
Dont let em finndd tupaaccc
QUIT HATIN
this video is so cool
I see your point
I have a feeling he’ll drop one more album and it’ll be his last. End on a high
Album gonna be wack
he's getting that bag. i mean i understand
idk man, i think after he lost his little brother, he's probably just trying to live his life to the best of his own abilities.
great video but taylor wasn’t forced to become pop by her label, she actually chose that route for herself and got pushback from the label when she tried to.
It was forced
bro i get what youre saying, but you cant just expect someone to create an album. if it was that easy to create something like blonde everyone would do it.
quality over quantity
what's the music in the back?
Why should he
Everyone: Frank doesn't owe his fans anything!!11!1111!!!!1
Frank: Sending out crumpled $50 posters and $80 magazines, not shipping shirts for months or at all, expects fans to eat up 27k Minecraft shaped cock rings
i disagree
People will forever meatride, but the Frank ocean train left a long time ago.
the carti train died early to mid-2021
@@kylonxsaiyan clearly name if his name on your mouth when no one mentioned him
If he drops again the music industry will be going into defcon 1. Not a single artist in the game can do shit like that.
I love your videos bro but I think you should slow down on your talking. You talk to fast bro
Well done
his ngaf vibe is #goals: what happened to people enjoying the quality music , in an era of mumble rap no less, and keeping it pushing?
Mumble rap isn’t a thing
@@mohamada2177 because he makes good music? Pretty obvious 😂
He don't care but i love his music
I genuinely think he retired
It’s ok I don’t care either but I still like some of his songs and music, he’s talented regardless.
Thank god
Oh but I care about him (haven’t watched video yet)
he’s one artist lol why should anyone really care if he wants to go focus on something that isn’t music? is there no other music you people listen to?
i’ve lost all faith for frankey pooh
Well too bad I don't care about him either
So good 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
True that.. the info was cool too
I don't understand why he can't just be...human. People are really mentally ill to be acting like this. All you have to do is support the art that comes out, why does it have to be so complicated? You don't know these artists, get a grip
jay elec wasn't shelved he wouldn't drop
Yes he does
4:16 I genuinely don't think "ignomatic" is a word
as much as i have respect for him and his well-being, the wait is so frustrating
Who really cares about anyone now adays