Saying Nina has the same old tired story is so accurate. She really doesn’t do anything except be an assassin and fight her sister, and that’s kind of being played out. I really think the games should explore her relationship (or lack there of at present) with Steve Fox, having a son and protecting him would be interesting. Imagine if Anna targeted him to hurt Nina. Expand the Williams family drama!
Yes, Nina was practically Jin's right hand woman in T6, and was so loyal she willingly ran the Mishima Zaibatsu in his absence at the start of T7, so it was weird to see her acting as just another money-grubbing henchwoman. Also WHERE'S ANNA?! YOU CAN'T JUST SAY NINA KILLED HER FIANCEE AND THEN LEAVE US HANGING HARADA!!!
This is why Nina is the most boring character in the series. She's just every Mishima's top jobber and does nothing interesting. Tekken 3 and 4 were her peak because the fighting with Anna was no longer a thing and she was able to show some personality.
It’s one of those who you expect to see perform high in a fight, only to see her just hanging like a side character who’s supposed to fight someone, only ended up underperformed doin nothing. She didn’t lose to someone which doesn’t hurt her resume at least but making her doing nothing is equivalent of making her just looking at the lights is pathetic on Harada’s part. Wtf…????
Man.... they keep trying to bury Law, but he's still amongst the most popular character. They need to give him a big win soon though... I'm getting pissed off.
I think outside of Law and Zafina, Raven and Victor's involvement in the story was really disappointing to me. They hyped up Ravens return and hyped up his boss being introduced for them to barely do anything in regards to the main story.
I still remember your video about how tekken broke the law whether it's dying in his own ending or getting himself b****slapped by lili and paul didn't do so well in his own ending either
@@philgamer9499Tekken 1-4 says otherwise, especially for Paul. Consistently at the top or one step below thanks to shenanigans. 5 and on put everyone who isn't a Mishima or directly related to them as a foster member (not Asuka lmao) into jobber tier except Yoshi and Bryan.
Asuka might as well change her last name to Rochefort or something cuz she sure as hell ain’t a Kazama when it counts 😢😂 fuckin Lili had to explain the Kazama bloodline to Jin and Asuka was sitting there learning as if her last name wasn’t Kazama
Tekken “story mode” is too short for every character listed to have some kind of impact. Outside of like 3 characters, everyone is gonna be a jobber or fodder lol
Tekken's main story should only focus on 10-15 characters: the mishima family and the characters who are involved. No need for every character to have their screentime in the main mode. The other's side stories should only be in arcade endings
next tekken game should just go pure tournament story mode. bring back tekken to it's roots and give us a good fun tournament. also give us oldschool fans a reason to play arcade mode with every character so what i recommend is give us half the cast playable and the other have as unlockebles rivals. like in this game for example king main, and steve the unlockeble. you still have your complete roster but atleast we still feel we playing for something. you can still do dlc later on. but i miss the days off unlocking characters and not buying them.
Tekken 8 is that one game where many decade-size characters (Yoshi, Paul, Law, Bryan, JACK, etc) got the god-awful treatment from these inept writers...
@guillermogarcin9529 Best thing Jack ever did was turn themselves into a sheet/blanket to pile on top of Heihachi and then self-destruct, but was in vain as Heihachi did survive, but would absolutely demolish 60% of the cast.
@@userinterface2000 Jack is just a robot, he never impact in Tekken lore. Most characters have their own story in Tekken. For example King is always about to save Orphans in his Church and to face Armor King 2 and Marduck. Feng Wei is always about his Strength. Yoshi is in his own World to face against Bryan and for his clan. Bryan is always about chaos who wants to mess everyone. They were never connected to Mishima.
@@guillermogarcin9529it was Yoshi who told Xiaoyu the plot and has a sword that can harm Devil Harada forgot Bryan is practically the strongest character outside the Mishima so Harada took him out the story. And Paul was literally Kazuya rival the two had a draw and he even beat Ogre he was Kazuya Hwoarang and again Harada forgot look for the details buddy the writers are bad
My ideas for making Asuka important in the story: - Let Lili have a new rivalry with Azucena - Delete Lili from the game. I don't have any other ideas 🙃
Jun's usage was terrible, a slap to the face for fans who were waiting 25+ years fir her return. She might as well have been dead for story purposes, stuck in a coma, so players will have to pay for Tekken 9 in order to see her wake up.
My mains in Tekken are Raven(I mainly use Raven because he resemble Naruto characters in his unorthodox fighting style approach and because he's very unique and authentic, he's my trump card back from T5) and I admit it that If you don't adapt to his matchup he can definitely be annoying to fight against him. Hwoarang and Jin( these two are like the symbol of Yin&Yang☯️ in my eyes, they were my mains when I was starting to play Tekken 3 for the first time many many years ago, I also like it to use Eddy Gordo as well because of his Capoeira style of fighting). My List of annoying characters that I don't like to encounter/face are: Jun, Victor, Azucena, Dragunov, Xiaoyu, King, Devil Jin, Reina(sometimes), Yoshimitsu, Feng, Jack8, Nina, Alisa and Lili. So almost the entire roster I know... 🤷🏻♂️😅🙆🏻♂️✌️
except panda completely disappeared once the jacks showed up. it would’ve been cool to see panda and xioayu fight together but i guess harada forgot about the bear
Kuma had such a funny moment when he runs to go and attack Paul but gets hit by a missle on the process and Paul thinks he did it to protect him. They could have done so much with kuma have him want revenge for heiatchis death
He's not on the list, but in hindsight, I really don't care for how Azazel was handled. I think the original devil should have been treated with a bit more reverence than just being a plot device to power up Kazuya. It feels a bit like how MK has buried Shinnok in the latest games. But that's just me.
@@guillermogarcin9529 MK has some stories related to Scorpion vs. Sub Zero and Special Forces. The tekken characters who are non-Mishimas deserve their chance to show off🤔🤔
@@LavenderLam Special Forces are hated By MK Fanss. Before NRS They weren't important. They were focus more in Outworld a'nd Edenia. In 3d era, most characters have their own stories same in Tekken. Most characters should not be in Tekken story because they are not important. In Tekken 8 it makes sense all characters are in story because they are here to save the world against Kazuya like in Avengers Infinity War and Endgame.
@@LavenderLam Scorpion and Subzero are not important like Liu Kang and Raiden. They zre supporting characters. In Tekken most characters are not connected to Mishima, they have their own stories like King is helping Orphans, facing Armor King 2 and Marduck, Paul and Law are participating the Tournament to have money to help their family, and Yoshi helping his clan and facing against Bryan.
I hope they expand a story or something whenever these new characters show up not just a chapter ending on the DLCs, the only fodder that are portrayed correctly in any Tekken game are probably Alex, Combot, and Ganryu , and put in Josie but she’s not in this game. The rest are wasted and unearned, even Chang and Choi are respected despite glorified jobbers in SNK than that said sports team.
It hurt her image in Tekken 8 alot sadly. I hate how they wrote her to not do anything but be a easy to be had pawn plot device character. If she went out while having a battle with Kazuya using Azazel powers a bit I think she would have faired better. It makes using her in the game bittersweet. She has all these Azazel claw attacks and a over the top RA. Like why couldn't she be allowed to display any of that in story? They just made her seem very weak and useless in the story by comparison.
I told you Asuka was irrelevant in the main plot. You can remove her and the story won't change a bit. Reina is so over in one game than freaking Luke from Street Fighter in two games and Luke isn't over with the fans.
They don’t need to be important in the overall scope of things, they should be important in their own stories though. They have actively shred up goals or purpose of any character. They also simplify personalities or put in place activities that have an indefinite length. Like Nina and Anna having an endless war. Steve LITERALLY having no purpose. Bryan who canonically does literally nothing and thinks about one thing.
@@guillermogarcin9529 Star Wars branches out and give other characters the spotlight. That’s for pointing out a good example of how to have a main family discourse and important side characters with input in the story.
@@parrisxsummersMost Characters are not important in Star Wars. It's the same in Mcu movis the most important are Iron Man and Captain America in Infinity Saga.
@@guillermogarcin9529 the most important, however the other characters have full character arcs, feats, fights, dialogue, interactions. Thanks for bringing up another example of good Sid echaracter development and involvement.
@@parrisxsummers Most of them are useless in MCU, they are appear in 2 minutes in Avengers movies. Why to complain Tekken 8 that most characters don't appear a lot, it's the same in Avengers Infinity War and Endgame. They also appear 2 or 3 minutes in movies.
I will never forgive the writers and BN for how dirty they did Zafina in the main story. So much wasted potential for her considering all the hype and cool redesign and expanded Azazel possession lore she received for Tekken 8.
Saying Nina has the same old tired story is so accurate. She really doesn’t do anything except be an assassin and fight her sister, and that’s kind of being played out. I really think the games should explore her relationship (or lack there of at present) with Steve Fox, having a son and protecting him would be interesting. Imagine if Anna targeted him to hurt Nina. Expand the Williams family drama!
Yes, Nina was practically Jin's right hand woman in T6, and was so loyal she willingly ran the Mishima Zaibatsu in his absence at the start of T7, so it was weird to see her acting as just another money-grubbing henchwoman. Also WHERE'S ANNA?! YOU CAN'T JUST SAY NINA KILLED HER FIANCEE AND THEN LEAVE US HANGING HARADA!!!
This is why Nina is the most boring character in the series. She's just every Mishima's top jobber and does nothing interesting. Tekken 3 and 4 were her peak because the fighting with Anna was no longer a thing and she was able to show some personality.
Jack is paid by kazuya to look at the light
Lol tekken 5 intro
Jack is a team player ,unlike Cody 😂
My asuka 😭😭😭 definitely one of most wasted she could’ve done so much more
Btw nice tier list
Jun is alive so no need for her
It’s one of those who you expect to see perform high in a fight, only to see her just hanging like a side character who’s supposed to fight someone, only ended up underperformed doin nothing. She didn’t lose to someone which doesn’t hurt her resume at least but making her doing nothing is equivalent of making her just looking at the lights is pathetic on Harada’s part. Wtf…????
At least Asuka doesn't have the personality of a paper bag.
Man.... they keep trying to bury Law, but he's still amongst the most popular character. They need to give him a big win soon though... I'm getting pissed off.
Law's irrelevant
Tbf - he’s a 2nd placer on the American Branch behind Paul, whom represented the westcoast. But yeah, Law was done very dirty in all ways in one.
If you’re not a Mishima you’re not really a big aspect unfortunately 😔
damn right
I think outside of Law and Zafina, Raven and Victor's involvement in the story was really disappointing to me. They hyped up Ravens return and hyped up his boss being introduced for them to barely do anything in regards to the main story.
Facts I expected more from the Ravens only for them to do nothing
Disagree with victor
@itsbeyondme5560 my I ask why you disagree in regards to Victor?
I still remember your video about how tekken broke the law whether it's dying in his own ending or getting himself b****slapped by lili and paul didn't do so well in his own ending either
good old times
What do you expect from a joke character?
8:53 Lili's sole feat was being the benefactor 😂
Apart from that, what other notable accomplishment has she achieved?
@@userinterface2000She became friend with Asuka.
More than she normally gets to do.
@@userinterface2000
Beat Jack 8 with Asuka
@@blackdarkness6798 they wasted Jack because they didnt know what to do with lili and asuka. That made me hate those two even more.
I Feel So Bad For Marshall Law He Deserves Better
So does Paul
Absolutely
Paul and law don't deserve better. They're jobbers
@@philgamer9499Tekken 1-4 says otherwise, especially for Paul. Consistently at the top or one step below thanks to shenanigans. 5 and on put everyone who isn't a Mishima or directly related to them as a foster member (not Asuka lmao) into jobber tier except Yoshi and Bryan.
Law is a joke character. He's there to be laughed at because he's such a loser. That's his role.
Asuka might as well change her last name to Rochefort or something cuz she sure as hell ain’t a Kazama when it counts 😢😂 fuckin Lili had to explain the Kazama bloodline to Jin and Asuka was sitting there learning as if her last name wasn’t Kazama
FACTS
Laughed hard at the lili's being acceptable for throwing in the money part. And fuck Azucena
Instead of rise and fall of (insert tekken character) it should be the complete stagnation of (insert name here)
Tekken “story mode” is too short for every character listed to have some kind of impact. Outside of like 3 characters, everyone is gonna be a jobber or fodder lol
Tekken's main story should only focus on 10-15 characters: the mishima family and the characters who are involved.
No need for every character to have their screentime in the main mode. The other's side stories should only be in arcade endings
who were the jobbers? that's everyone that's not a Mishima for the Tekken team
it should that way til the end
@@aresprimordus4712 No
He is about to retired, when that happen
Everything change
next tekken game should just go pure tournament story mode. bring back tekken to it's roots and give us a good fun tournament. also give us oldschool fans a reason to play arcade mode with every character so what i recommend is give us half the cast playable and the other have as unlockebles rivals. like in this game for example king main, and steve the unlockeble. you still have your complete roster but atleast we still feel we playing for something. you can still do dlc later on. but i miss the days off unlocking characters and not buying them.
so many jobbers in Tekken's lore and I thought Street Fighter had it bad.
Tekken 8 is that one game where many decade-size characters (Yoshi, Paul, Law, Bryan, JACK, etc) got the god-awful treatment from these inept writers...
They were never important for story except Paul.
Jack was always a jobber since the first Tekken. They are just robots
@guillermogarcin9529 Best thing Jack ever did was turn themselves into a sheet/blanket to pile on top of Heihachi and then self-destruct, but was in vain as Heihachi did survive, but would absolutely demolish 60% of the cast.
@@userinterface2000 Jack is just a robot, he never impact in Tekken lore. Most characters have their own story in Tekken. For example King is always about to save Orphans in his Church and to face Armor King 2 and Marduck. Feng Wei is always about his Strength. Yoshi is in his own World to face against Bryan and for his clan. Bryan is always about chaos who wants to mess everyone. They were never connected to Mishima.
@@guillermogarcin9529it was Yoshi who told Xiaoyu the plot and has a sword that can harm Devil Harada forgot
Bryan is practically the strongest character outside the Mishima so Harada took him out the story.
And Paul was literally Kazuya rival the two had a draw and he even beat Ogre he was Kazuya Hwoarang and again Harada forgot look for the details buddy the writers are bad
When the next Story Expansion comes in for Tekken 8, we'll might see one of them get another chance.
It'll just be Jun and Reina.
My ideas for making Asuka important in the story:
- Let Lili have a new rivalry with Azucena
- Delete Lili from the game.
I don't have any other ideas 🙃
Now, Lili and Asuka are friends
Option 2 is clearly superior
Asuka still gotta throw hands on Feng.
Jun's usage was terrible, a slap to the face for fans who were waiting 25+ years fir her return. She might as well have been dead for story purposes, stuck in a coma, so players will have to pay for Tekken 9 in order to see her wake up.
My mains in Tekken are Raven(I mainly use Raven because he resemble Naruto characters in his unorthodox fighting style approach and because he's very unique and authentic, he's my trump card back from T5) and I admit it that If you don't adapt to his matchup he can definitely be annoying to fight against him. Hwoarang and Jin( these two are like the symbol of Yin&Yang☯️ in my eyes, they were my mains when I was starting to play Tekken 3 for the first time many many years ago, I also like it to use Eddy Gordo as well because of his Capoeira style of fighting). My List of annoying characters that I don't like to encounter/face are: Jun, Victor, Azucena, Dragunov, Xiaoyu, King, Devil Jin, Reina(sometimes), Yoshimitsu, Feng, Jack8, Nina, Alisa and Lili. So almost the entire roster I know... 🤷🏻♂️😅🙆🏻♂️✌️
I would have put Leroy in Best Showing imo.
nah yoshi so strong that if they gave him his canonical strength he would one shot kazuya
If harada literally gave the real effects of getting shot by a laser beam yoshi would've died
Paul feeling like a guest character in his own game. Hate to see it
Don't you mean love to see it. Characters like Pauline should just stay on the sideline.
“Lee… he was talking”
We really giving people participation rewards at this point
I think the one thing Panda did in the game was help out Xiaoyu against the Jacks. But other than that Panda did absolutely nothing
Well it's a Panda. She is a joke character like Kuma.
except panda completely disappeared once the jacks showed up. it would’ve been cool to see panda and xioayu fight together but i guess harada forgot about the bear
It hurts seeing Law and Paul in the jobber and completely wasted categories. Seeing Yoshi and Bryan in completely wasted sucks too.
They were never important for Tekken story
i dont see how king contributed to the story more than steve
I'd argue nina should be in fodder considering everything she does could have been done by a npc.
Kuma had such a funny moment when he runs to go and attack Paul but gets hit by a missle on the process and Paul thinks he did it to protect him.
They could have done so much with kuma have him want revenge for heiatchis death
My favorite in the top spot I’m assuming lol
As an Asuka fan it would be AWESOME if she was the big bad 😂and Lili is her 2nd in command and they are the big gang leaders who need to be stopped
He's not on the list, but in hindsight, I really don't care for how Azazel was handled. I think the original devil should have been treated with a bit more reverence than just being a plot device to power up Kazuya. It feels a bit like how MK has buried Shinnok in the latest games. But that's just me.
Wouldn’t Jack be considered fodder.
Paul to law: "I'll never pay you"! 👺
Panda literally did nothing, she didnt even help ol girl with those jacks😂
Harada treats the legacy characters like trash😭😭GOD, they are the characters who make tekken gained popularity rapidly 😭😭
They were never important in story. Tekken is always about the Mishima like in MK is always about Liu Kang and Raiden.
@@guillermogarcin9529 MK has some stories related to Scorpion vs. Sub Zero and Special Forces. The tekken characters who are non-Mishimas deserve their chance to show off🤔🤔
@@LavenderLam Special Forces are hated By MK Fanss. Before NRS They weren't important. They were focus more in Outworld a'nd Edenia. In 3d era, most characters have their own stories same in Tekken. Most characters should not be in Tekken story because they are not important. In Tekken 8 it makes sense all characters are in story because they are here to save the world against Kazuya like in Avengers Infinity War and Endgame.
@@LavenderLam Scorpion and Subzero are not important like Liu Kang and Raiden. They zre supporting characters. In Tekken most characters are not connected to Mishima, they have their own stories like King is helping Orphans, facing Armor King 2 and Marduck, Paul and Law are participating the Tournament to have money to help their family, and Yoshi helping his clan and facing against Bryan.
@@guillermogarcin9529 If they aren't important, they won't be included in the mk story
It took an anime team-up attack to take out Jack-8. He could be higher
I would put lars above reina his headbutt was way better and hers had way more momentum. On top of the heihachi flashes
I have to ask, what does “Talent announcement” or “Talent announcer” mean?
I hope they expand a story or something whenever these new characters show up not just a chapter ending on the DLCs, the only fodder that are portrayed correctly in any Tekken game are probably Alex, Combot, and Ganryu , and put in Josie but she’s not in this game. The rest are wasted and unearned, even Chang and Choi are respected despite glorified jobbers in SNK than that said sports team.
The only story expansion Harada should do is the aftermath of the war not the dlc characters
Zafina was straight fodder
It hurt her image in Tekken 8 alot sadly. I hate how they wrote her to not do anything but be a easy to be had pawn plot device character. If she went out while having a battle with Kazuya using Azazel powers a bit I think she would have faired better. It makes using her in the game bittersweet. She has all these Azazel claw attacks and a over the top RA. Like why couldn't she be allowed to display any of that in story? They just made her seem very weak and useless in the story by comparison.
WHY DID YOSHIMITSU JUST LEAVE AFTER THE TOURNAMENT
It's cool Lars is on the Top Tier, because of course there's still little bit of Mishima in him.
Little bit? More like half
What did you think about ED 😭😂😭😂
Nina is boring af, they really need to revitalise the character going forward
King story needs to be more focus on
He just want to save Orphans, nothing will change for the Mishima. Lol
@@guillermogarcin9529 his story doesn't need to be evolve with Mishima's I am talking his problems with Armor King 2 and Marduk
@@MenmaKazama You mean with Side stories outside of Mishima, like they did in Tekken 7 ?
No. His story should only be in arcade not the main
I told you Asuka was irrelevant in the main plot. You can remove her and the story won't change a bit. Reina is so over in one game than freaking Luke from Street Fighter in two games and Luke isn't over with the fans.
I mean it's tekken we all know the only characters that matter are the mishimas
Jack robots are mass produced to be jobbers to the other characters 😂.
What is the theam in 6:33? This man never talk back in the comments
Well i guess the man talked back now lol - TEKKEN 8 OST Yakushima 1st
@@TheFightersDen sorry i mean the theam 3:33 i marked it the wrong way and thanks for the respons my man this means a lot
@@TonyOneAndOnly-lw4iw Die Hard Trilogy Music - Dulles Airport
@@TheFightersDen thanks bro you a legend keep up the good work😎
You got something against Paul? He clapped Law, twice! And Law's above him
completely wasted column was randomly added, the Gloried jobbers are worst than them, not only were they poorly written they lost their fights.
Most characters are not important in story like in SF and MK.
They don’t need to be important in the overall scope of things, they should be important in their own stories though.
They have actively shred up goals or purpose of any character. They also simplify personalities or put in place activities that have an indefinite length.
Like Nina and Anna having an endless war. Steve LITERALLY having no purpose. Bryan who canonically does literally nothing and thinks about one thing.
@@bonfist7277 Yeah I agree with you. I miss Characters have their own story like in TK4 and TK5. Same with MK in 3d era.
I didn't even know Zafina was still alive. She was so trash in this I thought she stayed dead 😂
Blame the writers for her poor story perfomance...if they did it correctly Zafina would not have went out so easily.
at this point i give up on Lee
you realise Yoshimtsu is stronger than half the list right?
you realise the list is based on performance in the story not who is more powerful right?
Law should be rock bottom. Got jobbed the most. Harada hates him.
Where is lars
More Mishima bullshit 💤
Tekken is about the Mishima. It's like complaining that Star Wars is about Skywalker.
@@guillermogarcin9529 Star Wars branches out and give other characters the spotlight. That’s for pointing out a good example of how to have a main family discourse and important side characters with input in the story.
@@parrisxsummersMost Characters are not important in Star Wars. It's the same in Mcu movis the most important are Iron Man and Captain America in Infinity Saga.
@@guillermogarcin9529 the most important, however the other characters have full character arcs, feats, fights, dialogue, interactions. Thanks for bringing up another example of good Sid echaracter development and involvement.
@@parrisxsummers Most of them are useless in MCU, they are appear in 2 minutes in Avengers movies. Why to complain Tekken 8 that most characters don't appear a lot, it's the same in Avengers Infinity War and Endgame. They also appear 2 or 3 minutes in movies.
Azucena was wasted. 😂
They did Zafina so dirty all that hype just to get oneshotted😢
I will never forgive the writers and BN for how dirty they did Zafina in the main story. So much wasted potential for her considering all the hype and cool redesign and expanded Azazel possession lore she received for Tekken 8.
Dude that thumbnail is in poor taste for Zafina...She went out bad but no need to have it plastered like a Meme
It’s all about the jobbers lmao
Alisa lost to jack tho
Paul beat law tho