Once i had to go to a veg nonveg restaurant with my friends..and as i was vegetarian i ordered veg food, which had pooris, but i couldn't eat the pooris as it was fried in oil in which they had fried fish and it was smelling like fish...so then onwards i try going to pure veg hotels only just to avoid this unpleasant experience again
I personally practice Vegetarianism, I come from a Kayastha Bengali family, with my mother being Malayali and father Bengali. Everyone in my family used to eat meat mostly fish and chicken and mutton too, why I left meat because I used to don't like the texture of meat, besides I've been to butcher house and it killed my appetite, and texture was usually chewy and didn't like the feeling after eating meat it smells gross to me personally, haven't ate morsel of meat since 2010.
20:20 since I've working at a remote place in tribal odisha, I have come across communities that are staunch vegetarians the whole year except during festivals involving animal sacrifices
That's so fascinating! Wish you could do an episode with him on your experience. Can you tell us what else you learned that's interesting from your experience?
Punjabi Hindu Dalits are highly vegetarian. My 4 Panjabi friends belonging to Valmiki and Jatavs, were vegetarian. And Bengali Brahmins are fish eaters 😂😂😂 What the hell is caste in India
Bengal suffered severe British made famines long ago, that is when for survival Bengali Brahmins had to switch over to fish food...and then it became normal
@@gcs-te5hu Even though the Islamic and British rule had a horrible effect on Bengal, this is not true. It has more to do with what's naturally abundant locally.
What all Ms Sudhamurti said is practiced in my family too. We take loads of puris when we go out. And we only eat in pure veg restaurants. It might not be common idk but is certainly not rare
Sadly hindus people don't know there religion, there is no concept of vegan vegetarian nonveg, there is thing called bhashya(food u should eat) abhshya(food u shouldn't eat) people should read satyarth prakash,
What is Law of Karma then? Why can't Hindus start doing EID Qurbani like in Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc. and play RED COLOR HOLI in the streets of India? Most Indians are Hindu, but not a Sanatani. For sanatani, life goals are beyond the scope of understand of non-Sanatanis. We can say Jains are closest to True Sanatani Culture as of today.
Manu has categorized food He endorsed none veg food with some riders I.e. once their is extreme draught / If nothing is available days and days to eat/ He said , try those food that is source from minimum violence
I am a Hindu Bramhin for generations, we also do carry our food and eat only in veg restaurant and avoid eating with friends who eat meat. I don't see any problem with that, those don't like , just FO.
Change is the only constant. Such habits and manners reduced us to servants of the Arabs Turks Afghans Pashtuns Chagatais and Europeans for ALMOST A MILLENIA. You dont eat Non Veg. Perfect. But STOP discriminating and avoiding people who EAT NON VEG. If you share a table or utensils with them, you WON'T BE CONSUMING WHAT HAPPENS TO BE ON THEIR FOOD PLATE. Use COMMON SENSE.
We are Sikhs and yet we have people in our family who will not eat non veg and cook non veg and eat with the same utensils just used for non veg food 😊. Being veg is not brahminical.
I'm from Nepal. We're mostly Hindus, in fact just two decades back, we were a Hindu Rashtra, until our Commies with the help of Sonia madam establishment and European Union introduced Secularism here. But, we love meat. I'm a Brahmin and I eat meat. Nepalese eat goat, chicken, buff, pig, wild boar, fish, and many other animals. Mind you, we don't eat beef, cow is our national animal and eating cow meat is strictly punishable by our laws. In fact, the Commies tried to modify this during the framing of new constitution, but they couldn't. We do have Vaishnav sect of people who are strictly vegetarian but Nepalese in general love eating meat but that don't make us any less Hindu.
Of course there will be exceptions. Some people choose to be vegetarians because of other reasons. But majority are religious Brahmins. And they will say that Hinduism prohibits meat. It doesn’t. But they’ll say that. Who reads Vedas? Brahmins.
There's another factor to be taken into consideration. Which is not "compassion" but just simple "disgust" towards foods that a vegetarian has perceived/developed since his formation years. For Example: Feces is considered unpalatable by most. Lets assume a culture or person partakes in it. There's a good chance most non-vegetarian people would not share a vessel with such a person. Clearly, discrimination not being the reason, but plainly because of personal disgust towards feces. The point being, no one can decide what other person's dietary disgust can root from.
I am in no way opposed to the idea of people carrying their own utensils because they don’t want to share one with other people, that is a personal choice. But if you are ready to share it with certain sects of people and not with another, that can very well be interpreted as a bias, you can call it it casteism, discrimination or just disgust. It doesn’t change the fact that it’s still an implicit bias toward not liking someone based on what they are, wear, or eat, which is pretty much the definition of discrimination. Hitler didn’t just hate the Jews he was disgusted by them and that is why he ran a cleaning service to get rid of them. Again I am not telling what vegetarians should or shouldn’t do, but the idea of being disgusted by someone else’s food is beyond my understanding. The example you gave is classic red herring and straw man fallacies. Feces is not food in any known culture, so the natural disgust that the word creates is being used to push an agenda which has nothing to do with the word itself. So the logic is “I am disgusted by something - feces is also disgusting so will you eat feces”. Now let’s consider a culture where people eat something most Indians consider disgusting like brains, bugs or reptiles. I can bet you most people who eat non veg and will be disgusted to eat any of that but chances are they will not mind sharing a spoon in a restaurant where they served the above if it was washed properly. Key word here being hygiene. Now take the same example and take the same non vegetarian and serve him in a bowl where some raw meat was placed and maybe was not properly washed, I can bet you 99% of the time the person will not eat in it even though he is being served the same meat cooked. As much I respect Sudha mam as a person she is of a generation where being disgusted at someone else’s diet was social norm don’t try spreading it as normal today, we know better.
@@bhushan1987 Yeah but if that bias is stemming from a malicious reason like caste or religion, then it's a bad thing. But if it's stemming from sheer disgust like the OP said (using the most apt analogy I would say, since that is exactly what a vegetarian feels about meat), then there's nothing wrong in that. I don't care if there's no culture yet which treats feces like food, most vegetarians treat meat with as much disgust as a regular human does to feces. It's the perfect analogy. We don't want to accidentally consume something that is extremely extremely disgusting to us, even by accident (since there might be bits and pieces of meat or it's juices left on the utensil). A lot of the times even the smell remains on the utensil, even if it's cleaned properly. This is why a lot of us prefer to carry our own utensils, it's just more convenient. I bet you wouldn't want to use a utensil that smells like feces, would you? I don't know why you deliberately chose to misrepresent vegetarians in such a malicious way btw when you said that we allegedly don't like non-vegetarians, and then went on to compare non-vegetarians with jews and vegetarians with Hitler lmao, but to clear it for the gullible who might fall for this crap, vegetarians don't hate non-vegetarians, and no we are not disgusted by non-vegetarians as people. We are disgusted by non-vegetarian food habits, the act of meat consumption is disgusting and disturbing beyond imagination. That's not the same as hating or being disgusted by a human being. But on a larger point, what you're doing here is literally villainizing the very idea of a human being having some sort of a bias about a certain issue, which is pretty fucking retarded, because that's one of the things that make us human. You cannot be a human and not have any biases about issues you deeply care about. Your whole comment seems to be extremely (and deliberately) manipulative, and malicious. You've made tons of false equivalences here, used ridiculous analogies, dismissed his perfectly apt analogy about how we're disgusted by meat as much as a regular person is disgusted by feces by claiming that it's red herring/straw man fallacy (at least decide which one it is smh) when it's neither (yes meat is not feces, we're know that. We're not fucking idiots. To repeat once again, we're disgusted by meat and anything related to it as much as a regular person is disgusted by feces), and you seem to justify all those bigoted, hateful and misleading ideas in the name of progressiveness. Why should I force my body to not be disgusted by the things that it is naturally disgusted by, just because it's "today"? Why is "today" here "better" than the past? (Let me answer, because you've been taught to think that we're more progressive than what we were in the past. Which is a concept developed during the European renaissance after they came out of their "dark ages". You're imposing western history onto Indian history with your statement here.) How is it "better" to force down your body reflex? I personally believe that being more connected with your body (including your natural reflexes) is much "better" than suppressing your body and forcing yourself to behave in a certain unnatural way?
@@yugmathakkar4023 to be honest I can't argue with this amazing logic of yours, because I am not arguing to start with. I am merely pointing out the FACT that you and OP choose to equate edible food(meat) to feces and defend it base on classical conditioning and not actual facts. i.e meat is not feces and the reason its disgusting to someone who has never consumed it is mere conditioning (which means you were taught to think of it as disgusting growing up), the human body is not naturally averse or disgusted by meat(unless it's raw or decaying), but it is averse and disgusted by feces, there are literal research to prove this. Even herbivores like deer and cows will consume meat like insects and reptiles when they are low on certain nutrients(I can send you the link to a research if you have issues believing this). So essentially what I was getting at is the disgust you feel is the manufactured one and not the natural at all (nuances apply, lot of people dont like certain smells and this can be inherent to them, I am not questioning that, but I highly doubt that is what is going on here) Now lets get to the fallacies, the OP post is both a red herring and a strawman because he tried to "change the topic and divert attention from the original topic" which was "Is vegetarianism same as Brahminism" and its is also a strawman because he tried to create a literal stawman out of feces. Now lets get to your allegations. I have made no claims where vegetarians or meat eaters are better or worse. The point I was trying to make was disgust can lead to breaking down of societies. I am amazed that you were able to craft a shakespearean script using that one statement. Next time when your are trying to craft an argument do it using logic and not bias, because it ends up showing. The statements you have made are more a projection of what you think rather than what I said. Again I am not trying to start a fight here and if my comment was hurtful I apologize but please don't villianize (strawman) me to prove a implicit bias you have. We all want the same thing, to just get along and form a prosperous society. If just smelling someone else's food disgusts you then you will never me able to sit on the same table with them and most probably not live in the same neighborhood which literally leads to ghettoization, which it leads to discrimination. Again I am not stating that vegetarians are discriminating against meat eaters 🙄. I can relate to your disgust, but what if your disgust, disgusts me, will you be able to relate to me, you see how this gets really complicated real fast? This is exactly what is happening in the west with their woke nonsense. Also if your spoons smell after washing then it has not been washed properly, so yeah I wouldn't eat there either. And yes "today" is "better" than "past" because we have this thing called the "internet" that bought us out of the "dark ages" of believing and reinforcing your own bias. It's not a European conspiracy or slave/brown coolie mentality to be able to see things from a different perspective, its called being "educated". Now please don't ague that I am bigoted because I am western educated, "Nahi hu bhai, SSC board se pass out hu" 🙄
@@bhushan1987trust me staunch non vegetarians of India cannot bear to eat food with Indonesians. Plainly sue to the disgust factor. The ultimate amount of species they eat is unpalatable to the Indian non veg people also. Pure disgust. Non vegetarians who travel far east Asia also tend to become vegetarians because of the extent to which non vegetarianism is practised in these countries 😂 Have you ever sat down and eaten with even Mizos from India? You cannot. Again the pure disgust factor. While the above person who made the comment about faeces, gave a wrong example. But his point was not completely invalid. You know a certain degree of disgust. And then comes another guy who has more. It’s relative. That’s why I am as a vegetarian don’t share my food with anybody. If they are interested I carry an extra spoon. They can take it into their plate and return my spoon. 😊
@@lakshmikrithika2521 Nobody is denying that people are not disgusted by certain things others eat. People are also disgusted by other people’s ethnicity, race and religion, but in today’s society, showing such disgust is considered ill mannered and ‘distasteful’. We as a society try to cull these practices in the bud because it’s essentially discrimination. I don’t understand how u saying some people are disgusted by other people’s ’edible’ food does not fall into the same category. How we as a society, solve discrimination like racism and ethnic cleansing is by educating other and the next generation, similarly if we also do the same thing with other people’s food maybe they might feel less disgusted. Exposure is the solution to this problem not justifying prejudices. This is just my opinion. Also since you don’t know anything about me or where I live I don’t think you should project your opinion of the miso or Indonesian food on me. While all their food is not exactly my palate I do consume East Asian food quite regularly considering the variety available to me in the West coast of United States. I also don’t eat every meat in the food, instead choose to eat what I like, similar to how I don’t eat every spice in the world. Imagine how upsurd this conversation would be if instead of meat this was about spice and we were discussing how one group of people who never ate spice started saying spicy food is disgusting and feces like, because of their non exposure and prejudice. This is the problem I am trying to bring up in this thread not trying to shame people for having opinion on what other people eat. Hope this makes sense.
The problem with you guys is You guys eliminate the whole translations instead of specific points of disagreement. Many Indian translations are biased too.
@@sumitdutta7043who do u think knows more about Sanskrit Indians or some western historian who doesn't know the context. Even if it's been translated by Indians there can't be any bias because there would be other Indians to check him/her. Do u want our scriptures to be translated by people like wendy doniger. See the scriptures translated by Indian scholars itself. There is mention of discrimination towards shudras in a lot of scriptures. If they weren't honest they would distort it and some of the things are clearly distorted by the British like the number of sati cases or the Aryan invasion theory or the date of rigveda
@@Inndjkaawed2922how come Indian translations are unbiased. Even foreigners learned Sanskrit before translations. The one Kushal mentined were/are really a great authority. I am not saying follow any western similar to all Indians. Indian sanskrit translations too has some bias like wanting to proof that we were vegetarians since eternity so they do do sanskrit gimmicks. I agree west did gimmicks on dating but in case of eating habits they translater it rationally.
@@NTIS-DHARMIK here I am talking about the translation of Vedas. So, here no. of sati have nothing to do. Yes, regarding timeline of vedas they were total bs. But in case of translations of eating habits they are unbiased they had nothing to gain. Indian Sanskrit Scholars are bad in the regard that they are too hard bend to proof that we Indians were Vegetarians since the beginning of world, which is total bs, they don't even take Sāyanāchārya as authority even though he gave bhashya on everything in vedas as unbiasedly. Here in general most of the sanskrit scholars specially traditional once were/are Brahmins, the whole community of their has Vegetarian preference they can't even comprehend thr fact that thew were beef eaters before Buddha period or beyond(i am not saying every Brahmins). So they deliberately translate wrongly. E.g. the gita press translations take every possible wrong measures to deliberately wrongly translate the places where non-veg eatings comes to vegetarian something. They mistranslated Ram Sita Laxman eating non-veg to veg in every place of Valmiki Ramayana. Just cross check with other 6 translations of Vālmiki Rāmāyana.
I am an obc and i will get kicked out of the house if my mother finds out i dig eggs. My mother goes one step further she not only carries her own food but her own water bottle whenever she steps out of the house. This ultra vegetarianism has got nothing to do with bhrahmanism whatsoever
I don't understand one thing.. if a vegetarian person feels disgusted by non vegetarian food.. how can it trigger a non vegetarian fellow. Its a harmless activity if a veg person makes arrangement for seperate plates, utensils or restaurants.. what is triggering few non vegetarians..i believe everyone( a vegetarian as well as a non vegetarian)has a Right to live the way they want... Moral policing should not happen from both sides. I wanna share one experience though.. i am myself a non vegetarian person, a friend of mine who happens to be vegetarian, once in a wedding reception started giving gyan over why one shouldn't consume non veg. She said "its a sin etc etc" I definitely felt weird as no one was asking for her opinion.. we hadn't even started eating yet.. all of a sudden she said that..but still i didn't feel humiliated or insulted or inferior. I just felt simply weird.. All i replied to her was " let the sins be decided and counted by the almighty honey.. you just enjoy the party 😅)and then went on to have the chicken.. What could i have possibly said 😅... So yeah that was a weird interaction.. and i just couldn't stop giving a reply. Coz practicing vegetarianism is your right. And i absolutely respect that. but so is my right to practice non vegetarianism. I definitely don't have any issue with anyone practicing "a seperate utensil or seperate restaurant thing" My mom is a vegetarian so i totally get it. But what i definitely have an issue with is the moral policing or "guilt trap" which few vegetarians (not all) try to do. "One should not eat this, not eat that" is not cool... I have no issue even with the fact that someone judges me as "pathetic" or "disgusting" just because i am a non vegetarian... Coz I don't mind what opinions random people form of me, its just that"moral policing " which cannot stop me from giving a fitting reply.. 😊
Should have taken a juicy chicken thigh in front of him and told him that if he doesn’t shut up and get lost then you will stuff the chicken into his throat😡 Bloody irritating people. Vegetarian ho toh rahi. Zyada gyaan baazi na karo sant mahatmao ki tarah.
In panjab dalits have turned vegetraian en masse..its beacuse of Radha soami and nirankari movements among dalits which has changed the scenario..these are essentially hindu movements and focus on vegetarianism is very high..
All hindu vegetarians are all ancient converts from Buddha worshippers . Except Bengalis who also Buddha worshippers. It became cultural issues outside Bengal. Bengali brahmins are huge non vegetarians .
Bro there was no solid organised Buddhist religion per se, every single person just causally practiced Buddhism as their patron saint and eventually reverted back to Hinduism since Buddhism was way too agnostic and was getting hedonistic.
There was no concept of "Buddhism", "Jainism" or any other isms. There was no concept of gatekeeping religion, anyone could worship any gods they wanted and also simultaneously believe in the teachings of the Buddha or the Tirthankars. They could also choose to believe the bits of pieces of each ideology as per their own preference, depending on what they think is good, relevant and feasible for them in that particular ideology. So saying that all vegetarians were only Buddhist that later got converted into Hindus is just plain wrong. You're using today's western structure of religion (where there's a lot of gatekeeping) to pass massive judgements on ancient Indian history, which followed a much more advanced, progressive and secular form of "religion".
@@yugmathakkar4023 agreed. I meant following not conversion. The point was vegetarianism came from Buddhist practises especially from Emperor Asoka's persuasions. Hindus were all non vegetarian originally.
@@joydeeproy1580did you even watch the video old man? Or just braindeàd? Its not impossible, that a large section of Hindus may have been vegetarian, has nothing to do with Buddhism.
Vegetarianism has been influenced by bhraminism and jainism in india and mostly western indian gujarat , Maharashtra and rajasthan . The brahmins and jains were and are the most influential sect in west india which makes every others to go vegetarian to gain acceptance in thier circles
Literal thousand of comments from Dalits SC ST and OBC in the comments section practising vegetarianism on their free will. But fault is always the Brahmins 💆🏾♀️
@@lakshmikrithika2521 Sister, I'm not suggesting you made that statement, but in your final line, you mentioned "But fault is always the Brahmins." I just wanted to convey that being vegetarian is a compassionate choice, and there's no need to feel guilty about it. As an OBC and a non-believer myself, my family and I also abstain from consuming non-vegetarian food.
About non vegetation community eating habit during my childhood days meat eating was non sunday affair. It was only during relatives visit or those specific festive days which comes once a year. That slowly changed to every sunday affair
I can speak for Karnataka people (including non kannada population of Karnataka ) as i am born brought up and mostly going die here😂. In Karnataka there are 4 large communities who are vegetarians. 1. Brahmins ( kannada, tamil, telugu, tulu brahmins) 2. Lingyats (including telugu and Marathi speaking lingayats). 3. Vaishyas (telugu vaishyas). 4. Jains There is one small community i know (they are vaishnavas but not brahmins) which has this unique system. Only their women can eat non veg but men are forbidden to eat non veg!!). Please add your state info. Konkani brahmins (GSB) are an exception. They are traditionally fish eating community
I dont know but our family is vegetarian but there is no caste aspect at-least at our level old generation ka ho sakta hai but we are vegetarian by choice not because we are Brahmins means she follows because she want to follow nobody in society even Brahmins forcing her infact many Brahmins eat fish .Its only veg and non veg concept is their its not strictly caste based like in past its just like we never had non veg and there were chances but we never felt to eat my cousins do eat non veg occasionaly. I dont mind others eating sitting besides me but me I just dont like to try non veg tussi khana hai khao no problem dont force me 🙂😂Halaki koi special pooja satyanaran vagireme thoda strict karte hai veg rahna but its not that strictly imposed in day to day life my cousin did tried non veg I mean its personal choice.
I don't understand why Central Asian dwelling aryan would be vegetarian and the Dravidian living in cities and having arable land would be more non vegetarian. I also don't understand why Brahmin would be Aryan invader, they'd be more closer to Kshatriyas. Maybe the Kshatriyas parshurama killed were these Aryans. And the rest Brahmin have high steppe ancestry is because some of the Kshatriyas would've become Brahmins and created vedic culture. They would've married with locals. Which is why there's some meat eating mentioned in early parts.
There are many non-veg eating Brahmins. Kashmiri and Bengali Brahmins eat non-veg. Saraswat Brahmins eat non-veg. Many Tamil, Telugu, etc Brahmins eat non-veg too. And even in the plains we have many non-veg eating Brahmins. In Delhi and Lucknow we can see many Brahmins enjoying the non-veg dishes. Brahmins have always been meat eaters before some of them became vegetarian due to Jain influence and then vegetarianism started to spread
I have no issues with Vegetarians. I m myself most of time is Vegetarian. I have issues with Vegetarian who act like avatars. Dude it is ok you don't meat or fish, you don't need to preach me for this.
Sir prof CK Raju announced award if you prove that there was a pythagoras who gave famous pythagorean theorem in mathematics if you have it Please provide us hard evidence
100% of my Brahmin friend are non-veg, also most of the Padit family (in Chennai / Trichy as of i know) working in the temple don't make non-veg at home, but buy non-veg food and eat at home. Hindus and Bramins are not equal to veg.
A lot of this is manufactured outrage. As a Tamil Brahmin i appreciate you calling out anti-brahmin bigotry. With the American pseudo-social justice movement i see a lot of this coming out. It's funny though to meet someone who spews this, becoming their friend and then telling them to their face they're a bigot 😂
Bro even Nityanand Mishra who has a traditional approach and is one of the critics of Arya Samaj and Many Advitavedanti considers Arya Samaj Vedas and their Bhasaya to be better than others. They acknowledge them for their work on Grammer despite being staunch critics of Arya Samaj. Griffith's translation is based upon the Maxax Mullers translation of Vedas. They both were pro-invasion supporters. They have misinterpreted the Rigveda as per their convenience. Even Ambedkar has acknowledged Muller's bias.
See Nityananda Mishra too a Btahmin and by default vegetarian so h tooca be biased too. But its true that I read many places that Arya Samaj's Veda translations are wrong. Especially they kind a have pre biased of proofing vegetarianism and stuff like we vegetarians since eternity.
@@sumitdutta7043 They have bhasya, and Vyakaran to prove it. Sanskrit has two meanings of the same words, that's why people assume it. I am wrong you are right, but it's all about context and there are many other shastra which are taken into consideration while interpreting the text which Non- Hindu scholars miss and Pauranic people justify Meat eating especially the Shaivitve and Shakta. Shaivitve cult existed even during the vedic period. So no doubt that Meat eating was there, but also many Brahmins and yogis opposed it. Even we know that our texts have been not written or composed by one single individual. It has the opinion of many rishis and yogis and they were all rivals at the same time. For example Vishwamitra and Vashista. They had opposing views.
@@Chiggss Satyug is probably called to the Chalcolithic society. I don't think Vedas have such a division of ages. It's post-vedic philosophy about the ages. It's mostly found in Puranas
Asli Pareshani Ki Wajah Ye Hai Ki Wampanthi Yo Ne Budhhist Ko Kabhi Vegan Ban Jane Ke Liye Encourage/ Aware /Awake Nahi Kiya On The Contra Beef Eating Ko Promote/ Support Kiya Result By Default Jinhe Vegan Hona Chahiye Tha Vo Buddhist Crazy Beef And Meat Eaters Ban Gaye Isi Ahesas Ko Infuriarity Complex Kahete Hai
In India it’s mostly Brahmins. And we’re talking about India here. Not the world. In India you interact with Indians 99% of the time. And most Indians don’t eat meat because of their religious belief. Because it is impure. Don’t talk about Greeks. We don’t live in Ancient Greece. There is no problem if a Brahmin wants to avoid meat. They can do whatever they want. It’s only a problem when they make laws based on their beliefs. Like banning beef. Like not serving meat and alcohol in air India flights.
Varna does not exist any more. It got degenerated into jait due to diluation of Varna. Today's varna system is Engineering vs. medicine etc. Hindu Vegitarianism came from Ayurveda. Ayurveda identitief guna/properties of foods - by the impact it has on human body plus mind. For scholarship kind of professions, Brahmin food style is more conducive- easily digestible, does not cause distractions, helps to focus etc. Apart from this, the region where the community lived for long time - also influences. I wish India mainstreams Ayurveda as life style choice. Then most confusions on food, varna, jati will go away.
In the west atleast the people that ive come across, sea food is part of being a vegetarian or more like theres a thing line between being a vegetarian and pescatarian
Food choices are culture based However red meat is terrible for our climate . This explains the very high rate of liver failure and colon cancer in Pakistan
The controversy over Sudha Murthy's statement was triggered by her statement that she carries her own spoon - if all she has said was she's a die-hard vegetarian, there would have been zero controversy or outrage
that's not a issue , I only eat eggs and chicken , I'm bengali but I don't like fish so I literally have my own vessel plates for my chicken dish ,cuz my mom makes fish and I avoid that same utensil for my food
It's Vāmācāra vs Dakṣiṇācāra. In Brahmins - Vāmācāra : Maithili,konkani,nepali,bengali,odia,kps,punjabi saraswats are non vegetarian. Dakṣiṇācāra in: telugu, tamil,harayanvi, karnaraka,gujrati, up-mp, rj so vegetarianism.
Vegetarianism is not brahmanism kushal bhai But being "pure vegetarian" but not eating with non vegetarian and having separate utensils is unscientific, irrational, and does have CASTEIST ROOTS. You always trivialize the opposite point of view and then beat the strawman created by you.
That's a choice, Individual Freedom. It's not casteist and racist. It's the belief and spirituality of individuals and they believe in purity. So you can't say if someone who doesn't eat Non-veg is a casteist. We can't label someone else something until they force us to believe their ideology.
@rakshithyadav3967 you can do whatever you want, brother! But that doesn't mean people won't point out casteist roots of certain irrational unscientific practices!
@@magnum101 he is not punjabi he is some mixed gujurati marathi shit don’t know but few times he spit the hate against Punjabis on sham Sharma show and try to give his opinions about Punjabis , which Punjabis don’t want .. we running world bank today
@@harmandeepsinghdhillon3214sirji please understanding that our very rational messiah Kushalbuddin does not believe in birth based Punjabi since birth based Punjabi is casteist and also racist. Kushalbuddhiheen is therefore more Punjabi than you and I will ever be. In fact he is more Punjabi than even Harbhajan and kps gill put together. Respectfully saar.
Are bhai jisko jo khana hai usme aap ka kya lena dena😂 I am vegetarian i never ask my friend to go vegetarian though they want me turn non vegetarian because of protein 😂and the funny part i look more muscular than all of them.
Once i had to go to a veg nonveg restaurant with my friends..and as i was vegetarian i ordered veg food, which had pooris, but i couldn't eat the pooris as it was fried in oil in which they had fried fish and it was smelling like fish...so then onwards i try going to pure veg hotels only just to avoid this unpleasant experience again
I personally practice Vegetarianism, I come from a Kayastha Bengali family, with my mother being Malayali and father Bengali. Everyone in my family used to eat meat mostly fish and chicken and mutton too, why I left meat because I used to don't like the texture of meat, besides I've been to butcher house and it killed my appetite, and texture was usually chewy and didn't like the feeling after eating meat it smells gross to me personally, haven't ate morsel of meat since 2010.
20:20 since I've working at a remote place in tribal odisha, I have come across communities that are staunch vegetarians the whole year except during festivals involving animal sacrifices
That's so fascinating! Wish you could do an episode with him on your experience. Can you tell us what else you learned that's interesting from your experience?
Punjabi Hindu Dalits are highly vegetarian. My 4 Panjabi friends belonging to Valmiki and Jatavs, were vegetarian.
And Bengali Brahmins are fish eaters 😂😂😂
What the hell is caste in India
Not just fish, mutton also. Kashmiri Brahmins and some Konkani Brahmins also do the same.
In himachal specially upper himachal brahmin eat meat and these brahmins ancestors were kashmiri brahmin
Bengal suffered severe British made famines long ago, that is when for survival Bengali Brahmins had to switch over to fish food...and then it became normal
@@gcs-te5hu Even though the Islamic and British rule had a horrible effect on Bengal, this is not true. It has more to do with what's naturally abundant locally.
Its due to influence of radha soami movement in panjab, jammu and himachal..
What all Ms Sudhamurti said is practiced in my family too. We take loads of puris when we go out. And we only eat in pure veg restaurants. It might not be common idk but is certainly not rare
Sadly hindus people don't know there religion, there is no concept of vegan vegetarian nonveg, there is thing called bhashya(food u should eat) abhshya(food u shouldn't eat) people should read satyarth prakash,
Satyarth prakash best book of last century
What is Law of Karma then? Why can't Hindus start doing EID Qurbani like in Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc. and play RED COLOR HOLI in the streets of India? Most Indians are Hindu, but not a Sanatani. For sanatani, life goals are beyond the scope of understand of non-Sanatanis. We can say Jains are closest to True Sanatani Culture as of today.
abhaksha bhakshan
Yes, only mujahindus know it.
@@freeBalochistan-n7land they got wiped out
Why AIM in thumbnail..?😂
Manu has categorized food
He endorsed none veg food with some riders I.e. once their is extreme draught / If nothing is available days and days to eat/
He said , try those food that is source from minimum violence
My few friends from punjab become vegetarian and i asked why and they said they didn't like it more and now they prefer panner over chicken
I am a Hindu Bramhin for generations, we also do carry our food and eat only in veg restaurant and avoid eating with friends who eat meat.
I don't see any problem with that, those don't like , just FO.
Change is the only constant.
Such habits and manners reduced us to servants of the Arabs Turks Afghans Pashtuns Chagatais and Europeans for ALMOST A MILLENIA.
You dont eat Non Veg. Perfect. But STOP discriminating and avoiding people who EAT NON VEG. If you share a table or utensils with them, you WON'T BE CONSUMING WHAT HAPPENS TO BE ON THEIR FOOD PLATE. Use COMMON SENSE.
Avoiding is not a good idea, but it's your choice
@@bharath3027 Bruh it's the OP's choice to eat with whomever he/she wants to eat.
We are Sikhs and yet we have people in our family who will not eat non veg and cook non veg and eat with the same utensils just used for non veg food 😊. Being veg is not brahminical.
Veg is Brahminical and nothing else
@jamesstevenson7725 who are you? With Christian name and talking about Sikhs. Get lost.
I'm from Nepal. We're mostly Hindus, in fact just two decades back, we were a Hindu Rashtra, until our Commies with the help of Sonia madam establishment and European Union introduced Secularism here. But, we love meat. I'm a Brahmin and I eat meat. Nepalese eat goat, chicken, buff, pig, wild boar, fish, and many other animals. Mind you, we don't eat beef, cow is our national animal and eating cow meat is strictly punishable by our laws. In fact, the Commies tried to modify this during the framing of new constitution, but they couldn't. We do have Vaishnav sect of people who are strictly vegetarian but Nepalese in general love eating meat but that don't make us any less Hindu.
Veganism is western concept which used by leftists here to counter the Indic concept of tamsik & satvik food.
Carnivores op
@@ankansenapati3600 man scrolling long this comments and find this, pure satvik love..💚
Since when pure veg. Become bhramin thing? I am maratha and my family always been vegetarian...
Of course there will be exceptions. Some people choose to be vegetarians because of other reasons. But majority are religious Brahmins. And they will say that Hinduism prohibits meat. It doesn’t. But they’ll say that. Who reads Vedas? Brahmins.
There's another factor to be taken into consideration.
Which is not "compassion" but just simple "disgust" towards foods that a vegetarian has perceived/developed since his formation years.
For Example:
Feces is considered unpalatable by most.
Lets assume a culture or person partakes in it.
There's a good chance most non-vegetarian people would not share a vessel with such a person.
Clearly, discrimination not being the reason, but plainly because of personal disgust towards feces.
The point being, no one can decide what other person's dietary disgust can root from.
I am in no way opposed to the idea of people carrying their own utensils because they don’t want to share one with other people, that is a personal choice. But if you are ready to share it with certain sects of people and not with another, that can very well be interpreted as a bias, you can call it it casteism, discrimination or just disgust. It doesn’t change the fact that it’s still an implicit bias toward not liking someone based on what they are, wear, or eat, which is pretty much the definition of discrimination. Hitler didn’t just hate the Jews he was disgusted by them and that is why he ran a cleaning service to get rid of them. Again I am not telling what vegetarians should or shouldn’t do, but the idea of being disgusted by someone else’s food is beyond my understanding.
The example you gave is classic red herring and straw man fallacies. Feces is not food in any known culture, so the natural disgust that the word creates is being used to push an agenda which has nothing to do with the word itself. So the logic is “I am disgusted by something - feces is also disgusting so will you eat feces”.
Now let’s consider a culture where people eat something most Indians consider disgusting like brains, bugs or reptiles. I can bet you most people who eat non veg and will be disgusted to eat any of that but chances are they will not mind sharing a spoon in a restaurant where they served the above if it was washed properly. Key word here being hygiene. Now take the same example and take the same non vegetarian and serve him in a bowl where some raw meat was placed and maybe was not properly washed, I can bet you 99% of the time the person will not eat in it even though he is being served the same meat cooked.
As much I respect Sudha mam as a person she is of a generation where being disgusted at someone else’s diet was social norm don’t try spreading it as normal today, we know better.
@@bhushan1987 Yeah but if that bias is stemming from a malicious reason like caste or religion, then it's a bad thing. But if it's stemming from sheer disgust like the OP said (using the most apt analogy I would say, since that is exactly what a vegetarian feels about meat), then there's nothing wrong in that. I don't care if there's no culture yet which treats feces like food, most vegetarians treat meat with as much disgust as a regular human does to feces. It's the perfect analogy. We don't want to accidentally consume something that is extremely extremely disgusting to us, even by accident (since there might be bits and pieces of meat or it's juices left on the utensil). A lot of the times even the smell remains on the utensil, even if it's cleaned properly. This is why a lot of us prefer to carry our own utensils, it's just more convenient. I bet you wouldn't want to use a utensil that smells like feces, would you?
I don't know why you deliberately chose to misrepresent vegetarians in such a malicious way btw when you said that we allegedly don't like non-vegetarians, and then went on to compare non-vegetarians with jews and vegetarians with Hitler lmao, but to clear it for the gullible who might fall for this crap, vegetarians don't hate non-vegetarians, and no we are not disgusted by non-vegetarians as people. We are disgusted by non-vegetarian food habits, the act of meat consumption is disgusting and disturbing beyond imagination. That's not the same as hating or being disgusted by a human being.
But on a larger point, what you're doing here is literally villainizing the very idea of a human being having some sort of a bias about a certain issue, which is pretty fucking retarded, because that's one of the things that make us human. You cannot be a human and not have any biases about issues you deeply care about. Your whole comment seems to be extremely (and deliberately) manipulative, and malicious. You've made tons of false equivalences here, used ridiculous analogies, dismissed his perfectly apt analogy about how we're disgusted by meat as much as a regular person is disgusted by feces by claiming that it's red herring/straw man fallacy (at least decide which one it is smh) when it's neither (yes meat is not feces, we're know that. We're not fucking idiots. To repeat once again, we're disgusted by meat and anything related to it as much as a regular person is disgusted by feces), and you seem to justify all those bigoted, hateful and misleading ideas in the name of progressiveness. Why should I force my body to not be disgusted by the things that it is naturally disgusted by, just because it's "today"? Why is "today" here "better" than the past? (Let me answer, because you've been taught to think that we're more progressive than what we were in the past. Which is a concept developed during the European renaissance after they came out of their "dark ages". You're imposing western history onto Indian history with your statement here.) How is it "better" to force down your body reflex? I personally believe that being more connected with your body (including your natural reflexes) is much "better" than suppressing your body and forcing yourself to behave in a certain unnatural way?
@@yugmathakkar4023 to be honest I can't argue with this amazing logic of yours, because I am not arguing to start with. I am merely pointing out the FACT that you and OP choose to equate edible food(meat) to feces and defend it base on classical conditioning and not actual facts. i.e meat is not feces and the reason its disgusting to someone who has never consumed it is mere conditioning (which means you were taught to think of it as disgusting growing up), the human body is not naturally averse or disgusted by meat(unless it's raw or decaying), but it is averse and disgusted by feces, there are literal research to prove this. Even herbivores like deer and cows will consume meat like insects and reptiles when they are low on certain nutrients(I can send you the link to a research if you have issues believing this). So essentially what I was getting at is the disgust you feel is the manufactured one and not the natural at all (nuances apply, lot of people dont like certain smells and this can be inherent to them, I am not questioning that, but I highly doubt that is what is going on here)
Now lets get to the fallacies, the OP post is both a red herring and a strawman because he tried to "change the topic and divert attention from the original topic" which was "Is vegetarianism same as Brahminism" and its is also a strawman because he tried to create a literal stawman out of feces.
Now lets get to your allegations. I have made no claims where vegetarians or meat eaters are better or worse. The point I was trying to make was disgust can lead to breaking down of societies. I am amazed that you were able to craft a shakespearean script using that one statement.
Next time when your are trying to craft an argument do it using logic and not bias, because it ends up showing. The statements you have made are more a projection of what you think rather than what I said.
Again I am not trying to start a fight here and if my comment was hurtful I apologize but please don't villianize (strawman) me to prove a implicit bias you have. We all want the same thing, to just get along and form a prosperous society. If just smelling someone else's food disgusts you then you will never me able to sit on the same table with them and most probably not live in the same neighborhood which literally leads to ghettoization, which it leads to discrimination. Again I am not stating that vegetarians are discriminating against meat eaters 🙄. I can relate to your disgust, but what if your disgust, disgusts me, will you be able to relate to me, you see how this gets really complicated real fast? This is exactly what is happening in the west with their woke nonsense.
Also if your spoons smell after washing then it has not been washed properly, so yeah I wouldn't eat there either.
And yes "today" is "better" than "past" because we have this thing called the "internet" that bought us out of the "dark ages" of believing and reinforcing your own bias. It's not a European conspiracy or slave/brown coolie mentality to be able to see things from a different perspective, its called being "educated". Now please don't ague that I am bigoted because I am western educated, "Nahi hu bhai, SSC board se pass out hu" 🙄
@@bhushan1987trust me staunch non vegetarians of India cannot bear to eat food with Indonesians.
Plainly sue to the disgust factor. The ultimate amount of species they eat is unpalatable to the Indian non veg people also.
Pure disgust.
Non vegetarians who travel far east Asia also tend to become vegetarians because of the extent to which non vegetarianism is practised in these countries 😂
Have you ever sat down and eaten with even Mizos from India?
You cannot.
Again the pure disgust factor.
While the above person who made the comment about faeces, gave a wrong example. But his point was not completely invalid.
You know a certain degree of disgust.
And then comes another guy who has more. It’s relative. That’s why I am as a vegetarian don’t share my food with anybody.
If they are interested I carry an extra spoon. They can take it into their plate and return my spoon. 😊
@@lakshmikrithika2521 Nobody is denying that people are not disgusted by certain things others eat. People are also disgusted by other people’s ethnicity, race and religion, but in today’s society, showing such disgust is considered ill mannered and ‘distasteful’. We as a society try to cull these practices in the bud because it’s essentially discrimination. I don’t understand how u saying some people are disgusted by other people’s ’edible’ food does not fall into the same category. How we as a society, solve discrimination like racism and ethnic cleansing is by educating other and the next generation, similarly if we also do the same thing with other people’s food maybe they might feel less disgusted. Exposure is the solution to this problem not justifying prejudices. This is just my opinion. Also since you don’t know anything about me or where I live I don’t think you should project your opinion of the miso or Indonesian food on me. While all their food is not exactly my palate I do consume East Asian food quite regularly considering the variety available to me in the West coast of United States. I also don’t eat every meat in the food, instead choose to eat what I like, similar to how I don’t eat every spice in the world. Imagine how upsurd this conversation would be if instead of meat this was about spice and we were discussing how one group of people who never ate spice started saying spicy food is disgusting and feces like, because of their non exposure and prejudice. This is the problem I am trying to bring up in this thread not trying to shame people for having opinion on what other people eat. Hope this makes sense.
Westerners translation of rigveda is misleading,
read rigvedadi bhashay bhumika instead just a suggestion baki aapki marzi😊
The problem with you guys is
You guys eliminate the whole translations instead of specific points of disagreement.
Many Indian translations are biased too.
@@sumitdutta7043how are they biased ? How do you know if foreign translations are objective?
@@sumitdutta7043who do u think knows more about Sanskrit Indians or some western historian who doesn't know the context.
Even if it's been translated by Indians there can't be any bias because there would be other Indians to check him/her.
Do u want our scriptures to be translated by people like wendy doniger.
See the scriptures translated by Indian scholars itself.
There is mention of discrimination towards shudras in a lot of scriptures.
If they weren't honest they would distort it and some of the things are clearly distorted by the British like the number of sati cases or the Aryan invasion theory or the date of rigveda
@@Inndjkaawed2922how come Indian translations are unbiased.
Even foreigners learned Sanskrit before translations.
The one Kushal mentined were/are really a great authority.
I am not saying follow any western similar to all Indians.
Indian sanskrit translations too has some bias like wanting to proof that we were vegetarians since eternity so they do do sanskrit gimmicks.
I agree west did gimmicks on dating but in case of eating habits they translater it rationally.
@@NTIS-DHARMIK here I am talking about the translation of Vedas.
So, here no. of sati have nothing to do.
Yes, regarding timeline of vedas they were total bs.
But in case of translations of eating habits they are unbiased they had nothing to gain.
Indian Sanskrit Scholars are bad in the regard that they are too hard bend to proof that we Indians were Vegetarians since the beginning of world, which is total bs, they don't even take Sāyanāchārya as authority even though he gave bhashya on everything in vedas as unbiasedly.
Here in general most of the sanskrit scholars specially traditional once were/are Brahmins, the whole community of their has Vegetarian preference they can't even comprehend thr fact that thew were beef eaters before Buddha period or beyond(i am not saying every Brahmins).
So they deliberately translate wrongly.
E.g. the gita press translations take every possible wrong measures to deliberately wrongly translate the places where non-veg eatings comes to vegetarian something.
They mistranslated Ram Sita Laxman eating non-veg to veg in every place of Valmiki Ramayana.
Just cross check with other 6 translations of Vālmiki Rāmāyana.
I am an obc and i will get kicked out of the house if my mother finds out i dig eggs. My mother goes one step further she not only carries her own food but her own water bottle whenever she steps out of the house. This ultra vegetarianism has got nothing to do with bhrahmanism whatsoever
I don't understand one thing.. if a vegetarian person feels disgusted by non vegetarian food.. how can it trigger a non vegetarian fellow. Its a harmless activity if a veg person makes arrangement for seperate plates, utensils or restaurants.. what is triggering few non vegetarians..i believe everyone( a vegetarian as well as a non vegetarian)has a Right to live the way they want... Moral policing should not happen from both sides.
I wanna share one experience though.. i am myself a non vegetarian person, a friend of mine who happens to be vegetarian, once in a wedding reception started giving gyan over why one shouldn't consume non veg. She said "its a sin etc etc"
I definitely felt weird as no one was asking for her opinion.. we hadn't even started eating yet.. all of a sudden she said that..but still i didn't feel humiliated or insulted or inferior. I just felt simply weird.. All i replied to her was " let the sins be decided and counted by the almighty honey.. you just enjoy the party 😅)and then went on to have the chicken..
What could i have possibly said 😅... So yeah that was a weird interaction.. and i just couldn't stop giving a reply. Coz practicing vegetarianism is your right. And i absolutely respect that. but so is my right to practice non vegetarianism.
I definitely don't have any issue with anyone practicing "a seperate utensil or seperate restaurant thing" My mom is a vegetarian so i totally get it.
But what i definitely have an issue with is the moral policing or "guilt trap" which few vegetarians (not all) try to do. "One should not eat this, not eat that" is not cool...
I have no issue even with the fact that someone judges me as "pathetic" or "disgusting" just because i am a non vegetarian... Coz I don't mind what opinions random people form of me, its just that"moral policing " which cannot stop me from giving a fitting reply.. 😊
Should have taken a juicy chicken thigh in front of him and told him that if he doesn’t shut up and get lost then you will stuff the chicken into his throat😡
Bloody irritating people.
Vegetarian ho toh rahi. Zyada gyaan baazi na karo sant mahatmao ki tarah.
Just a reminder Jain people are also vegetarians
My grandmother was also like Sudha Murthy, now our whole family is like that. We carry as much as possible our food with us.
So what if it IS brahminism? Is that a crime ?
They are supposed to be villains.
In panjab dalits have turned vegetraian en masse..its beacuse of Radha soami and nirankari movements among dalits which has changed the scenario..these are essentially hindu movements and focus on vegetarianism is very high..
All hindu vegetarians are all ancient converts from Buddha worshippers . Except Bengalis who also Buddha worshippers. It became cultural issues outside Bengal. Bengali brahmins are huge non vegetarians .
Bro there was no solid organised Buddhist religion per se, every single person just causally practiced Buddhism as their patron saint and eventually reverted back to Hinduism since Buddhism was way too agnostic and was getting hedonistic.
@@atomwaffen7943 true but a lot Buddhist way of life got retained and passed on. There is nothing in Upanishads about food restrictions.
There was no concept of "Buddhism", "Jainism" or any other isms. There was no concept of gatekeeping religion, anyone could worship any gods they wanted and also simultaneously believe in the teachings of the Buddha or the Tirthankars. They could also choose to believe the bits of pieces of each ideology as per their own preference, depending on what they think is good, relevant and feasible for them in that particular ideology. So saying that all vegetarians were only Buddhist that later got converted into Hindus is just plain wrong. You're using today's western structure of religion (where there's a lot of gatekeeping) to pass massive judgements on ancient Indian history, which followed a much more advanced, progressive and secular form of "religion".
@@yugmathakkar4023 agreed. I meant following not conversion. The point was vegetarianism came from Buddhist practises especially from Emperor Asoka's persuasions. Hindus were all non vegetarian originally.
@@joydeeproy1580did you even watch the video old man? Or just braindeàd? Its not impossible, that a large section of Hindus may have been vegetarian, has nothing to do with Buddhism.
Rakesh Sharma (first Indian into space) is a Brahman and he imposed Brahman Science on India 😂
Vegetarianism has been influenced by bhraminism and jainism in india and mostly western indian gujarat , Maharashtra and rajasthan .
The brahmins and jains were and are the most influential sect in west india which makes every others to go vegetarian to gain acceptance in thier circles
Literal thousand of comments from Dalits SC ST and OBC in the comments section practising vegetarianism on their free will.
But fault is always the Brahmins 💆🏾♀️
@@lakshmikrithika2521there's no "fault" in having a vegetarian diet.
@@IlmiMulhid when did I say that?
I am a vegetarian myself. However to connect that to brahminism is stupidity
@@lakshmikrithika2521
Sister, I'm not suggesting you made that statement, but in your final line, you mentioned "But fault is always the Brahmins." I just wanted to convey that being vegetarian is a compassionate choice, and there's no need to feel guilty about it. As an OBC and a non-believer myself, my family and I also abstain from consuming non-vegetarian food.
About non vegetation community eating habit during my childhood days meat eating was non sunday affair. It was only during relatives visit or those specific festive days which comes once a year. That slowly changed to every sunday affair
Kushal, You were rocking, on fire.
Suresh
Amazing video as always!!
I can speak for Karnataka people (including non kannada population of Karnataka ) as i am born brought up and mostly going die here😂. In Karnataka there are 4 large communities who are vegetarians. 1. Brahmins ( kannada, tamil, telugu, tulu brahmins) 2. Lingyats (including telugu and Marathi speaking lingayats). 3. Vaishyas (telugu vaishyas). 4. Jains
There is one small community i know (they are vaishnavas but not brahmins) which has this unique system. Only their women can eat non veg but men are forbidden to eat non veg!!). Please add your state info. Konkani brahmins (GSB) are an exception. They are traditionally fish eating community
I dont know but our family is vegetarian but there is no caste aspect at-least at our level old generation ka ho sakta hai but we are vegetarian by choice not because we are Brahmins means she follows because she want to follow nobody in society even Brahmins forcing her infact many Brahmins eat fish .Its only veg and non veg concept is their its not strictly caste based like in past its just like we never had non veg and there were chances but we never felt to eat my cousins do eat non veg occasionaly. I dont mind others eating sitting besides me but me I just dont like to try non veg tussi khana hai khao no problem dont force me 🙂😂Halaki koi special pooja satyanaran vagireme thoda strict karte hai veg rahna but its not that strictly imposed in day to day life my cousin did tried non veg I mean its personal choice.
I don't understand why Central Asian dwelling aryan would be vegetarian and the Dravidian living in cities and having arable land would be more non vegetarian. I also don't understand why Brahmin would be Aryan invader, they'd be more closer to Kshatriyas. Maybe the Kshatriyas parshurama killed were these Aryans. And the rest Brahmin have high steppe ancestry is because some of the Kshatriyas would've become Brahmins and created vedic culture. They would've married with locals. Which is why there's some meat eating mentioned in early parts.
There are many non-veg eating Brahmins. Kashmiri and Bengali Brahmins eat non-veg. Saraswat Brahmins eat non-veg. Many Tamil, Telugu, etc Brahmins eat non-veg too. And even in the plains we have many non-veg eating Brahmins. In Delhi and Lucknow we can see many Brahmins enjoying the non-veg dishes. Brahmins have always been meat eaters before some of them became vegetarian due to Jain influence and then vegetarianism started to spread
I have no issues with Vegetarians. I m myself most of time is Vegetarian. I have issues with Vegetarian who act like avatars. Dude it is ok you don't meat or fish, you don't need to preach me for this.
Seriously next time tell them to go do puja in their house if they preach too much!
Sir prof CK Raju announced award if you prove that there was a pythagoras who gave famous pythagorean theorem in mathematics if you have it Please provide us hard evidence
100% of my Brahmin friend are non-veg, also most of the Padit family (in Chennai / Trichy as of i know) working in the temple don't make non-veg at home, but buy non-veg food and eat at home. Hindus and Bramins are not equal to veg.
Agree. Now a days we cannot guess who is a vegetarian and who is not.
Enforcing halal on others is ok but being vegetarian isn't. Are we in clown world?
A lot of this is manufactured outrage. As a Tamil Brahmin i appreciate you calling out anti-brahmin bigotry. With the American pseudo-social justice movement i see a lot of this coming out. It's funny though to meet someone who spews this, becoming their friend and then telling them to their face they're a bigot 😂
Wrestlers eat all milk products, nuts, all dal, all flour rotis, rice etc is more than enough for them
Bro even Nityanand Mishra who has a traditional approach and is one of the critics of Arya Samaj and Many Advitavedanti considers Arya Samaj Vedas and their Bhasaya to be better than others. They acknowledge them for their work on Grammer despite being staunch critics of Arya Samaj. Griffith's translation is based upon the Maxax Mullers translation of Vedas. They both were pro-invasion supporters. They have misinterpreted the Rigveda as per their convenience. Even Ambedkar has acknowledged Muller's bias.
See Nityananda Mishra too a Btahmin and by default vegetarian so h tooca be biased too.
But its true that I read many places that Arya Samaj's Veda translations are wrong.
Especially they kind a have pre biased of proofing vegetarianism and stuff like we vegetarians since eternity.
@@sumitdutta7043 They have bhasya, and Vyakaran to prove it. Sanskrit has two meanings of the same words, that's why people assume it. I am wrong you are right, but it's all about context and there are many other shastra which are taken into consideration while interpreting the text which Non- Hindu scholars miss and Pauranic people justify Meat eating especially the Shaivitve and Shakta. Shaivitve cult existed even during the vedic period. So no doubt that Meat eating was there, but also many Brahmins and yogis opposed it. Even we know that our texts have been not written or composed by one single individual. It has the opinion of many rishis and yogis and they were all rivals at the same time. For example Vishwamitra and Vashista. They had opposing views.
@@sumitdutta7043 Araya Samaj gets hate and criticism because of its Anti- idol worshipping stance.
@@Viraj911 vedic period? U mean time of satyug ?
Btw
This hatred needs to stop tho,they don't deserve this much of haye, hindus need reality check
@@Chiggss Satyug is probably called to the Chalcolithic society. I don't think Vedas have such a division of ages. It's post-vedic philosophy about the ages. It's mostly found in Puranas
Asli Pareshani Ki Wajah Ye Hai Ki Wampanthi Yo Ne Budhhist Ko Kabhi Vegan Ban Jane Ke Liye Encourage/ Aware /Awake Nahi Kiya On The Contra Beef Eating Ko Promote/ Support Kiya
Result
By Default Jinhe Vegan Hona Chahiye Tha Vo
Buddhist Crazy Beef And Meat Eaters Ban Gaye
Isi Ahesas Ko
Infuriarity Complex Kahete Hai
In India it’s mostly Brahmins. And we’re talking about India here. Not the world. In India you interact with Indians 99% of the time. And most Indians don’t eat meat because of their religious belief. Because it is impure. Don’t talk about Greeks. We don’t live in Ancient Greece.
There is no problem if a Brahmin wants to avoid meat. They can do whatever they want. It’s only a problem when they make laws based on their beliefs. Like banning beef. Like not serving meat and alcohol in air India flights.
Varna does not exist any more. It got degenerated into jait due to diluation of Varna. Today's varna system is Engineering vs. medicine etc.
Hindu Vegitarianism came from Ayurveda. Ayurveda identitief guna/properties of foods - by the impact it has on human body plus mind. For scholarship kind of professions, Brahmin food style is more conducive- easily digestible, does not cause distractions, helps to focus etc. Apart from this, the region where the community lived for long time - also influences.
I wish India mainstreams Ayurveda as life style choice. Then most confusions on food, varna, jati will go away.
Starts at 7:00 .
Is carvaka is right translation।
In the west atleast the people that ive come across, sea food is part of being a vegetarian or more like theres a thing line between being a vegetarian and pescatarian
Yes in Netherlands, in one of the Macdonald's I've seen fillet o fish served as part of vegetarian options.
How in th actuall virgin yoni of mary is fish considered vegetarian? 😂
I am kshatriya I am vegetarian
How many battle you been?
Jainism actually started vegetarian culture in india.
Food choices are culture based
However red meat is terrible for our climate .
This explains the very high rate of liver failure and colon cancer in Pakistan
Vegitarianism is Teacherism😂
Sir apne tho prank kar diya 😅
Lingayats/Veershaivas are vegetarians.
The more one tries to associate caste and veg/non-veg more their head will spin because of how quickly it gets complex.
Pick and choose babe. Vegetarianism is all brahmins in the south. Why not talk about that? 😅
Damn you Kushal 😐
Jai Hind 🇮🇳🚩
Rig vedas says smash everyone😂😂
If you want better understand importance of vegan food then listn a muslim yogi Sri M
The controversy over Sudha Murthy's statement was triggered by her statement that she carries her own spoon - if all she has said was she's a die-hard vegetarian, there would have been zero controversy or outrage
that's not a issue , I only eat eggs and chicken , I'm bengali but I don't like fish so I literally have my own vessel plates for my chicken dish ,cuz my mom makes fish and I avoid that same utensil for my food
kushal eyebrows are always reactive of what he is saying and if it was stable it would bring more substance
"Every moving thing that lives shall be yours to eat; like the green vegetation, I have given you everything." (Genesis 9:3).
It's Vāmācāra vs Dakṣiṇācāra. In
Brahmins -
Vāmācāra : Maithili,konkani,nepali,bengali,odia,kps,punjabi saraswats are non vegetarian.
Dakṣiṇācāra in: telugu, tamil,harayanvi, karnaraka,gujrati, up-mp, rj so vegetarianism.
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I have turned non vegetarian after 20 years and trust me my wife is very touchy about the issue....almost divorced beacuse of eating meat😂
You didn't even tell her you are a meat eater before marriage?
@@shivamohri2701 i started eating meat 5 years after marriage..bas usko batane ki himmat na hui..but kisi ne usko bata dia aur sab barbad
Tumhara shadi tuut jaye
Itna serious kyun jaate ho ..
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Vegetarianism is not brahmanism kushal bhai
But being "pure vegetarian" but not eating with non vegetarian and having separate utensils is unscientific, irrational, and does have CASTEIST ROOTS.
You always trivialize the opposite point of view and then beat the strawman created by you.
I am a non-vegetarian but I don't eat beef and pork. I dont go to hotels which serve beef and pork.
The utensils smells, and no one can say 100 percent that the utensils has leftover of juice of meat.
That's a choice, Individual Freedom. It's not casteist and racist. It's the belief and spirituality of individuals and they believe in purity. So you can't say if someone who doesn't eat Non-veg is a casteist. We can't label someone else something until they force us to believe their ideology.
I eat eggs now my mum doesn’t let me in the kitchen when I eat it so is she being casteist towards me….?
@rakshithyadav3967 you can do whatever you want, brother!
But that doesn't mean people won't point out casteist roots of certain irrational unscientific practices!
I Am Brahmin
I Am Ham Eater
Vegetarian is a Sanatani Brahminical..........all santani are trying to Brahmin using their wisdom.......
The reason u hate Punjabis so much is Sometimes I feel in Punjab somebody has told u.. chl bhiye redi laa’ 😂😂
When did he say he hates punjabis when he himself is a punjabi
@@magnum101 he is not punjabi he is some mixed gujurati marathi shit don’t know but few times he spit the hate against Punjabis on sham Sharma show and try to give his opinions about Punjabis , which Punjabis don’t want .. we running world bank today
@@harmandeepsinghdhillon3214He is a Punjabi lol. He's said it many times.
@@AjithRM29 he said it 33 percent wtf is 33 percent either u r 50 percent either both parents are punjabi
@@harmandeepsinghdhillon3214sirji please understanding that our very rational messiah Kushalbuddin does not believe in birth based Punjabi since birth based Punjabi is casteist and also racist. Kushalbuddhiheen is therefore more Punjabi than you and I will ever be. In fact he is more Punjabi than even Harbhajan and kps gill put together. Respectfully saar.
Are bhai jisko jo khana hai usme aap ka kya lena dena😂
I am vegetarian i never ask my friend to go vegetarian though they want me turn non vegetarian because of protein 😂and the funny part i look more muscular than all of them.