Prius Synergy Drive Full Tear down

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  • @fradaja
    @fradaja 9 лет назад +72

    best engineered mass production cars in the world

  • @amartya916
    @amartya916 5 лет назад +2

    Many many thanks to both of you. I landed upon this video completely by chance (was looking for Prius inverter related videos), and I am thrilled that I did. The final bit where you put all the components together, and talked us through how MG1 and MG2 synchronize and drive the wheels either via battery power or via IC engine power was fantastic as well. I have always believed that opening up a machine is the best way to gauge quality, I think I now consider myself better informed about Toyota's hybrid drive systems thanks to this video.

  • @doctorzaius4084
    @doctorzaius4084 9 лет назад +22

    Great video guys. There are a lot of so-called auto enthusiasts out there who have, for some insane reason, convinced themselves that hybrids are impossibly complex, unserviceable, frail, an affront to god, a harbinger of the apocalypse, etc. I wish I could force them all to watch your video, because from a maintenance standpoint, this is no more complicated than a conventional hydraulic automatic transmission - and as you guys mention, the Toyota HSD power-split drive is practically bulletproof. I've been in Camry Hybrid NYC taxis with 400k+ miles on them. They're incredibly durable cars.

    • @soilmanted
      @soilmanted 9 лет назад +4

      +doctor zaius It looks SIMPLER than a conventional hydraulic automatic transmission - at least mechanically. I'm wondering about the computer control box which reads the 2 shaft speed sensors and decides when to start the engine, how much juice to give to M2 to control its speed, etc.

    • @kenstein
      @kenstein 9 лет назад +2

      +Theodore Zuckerman It is. As a gearhead and embedded systems engineer, I see this video and want to go pillage priuses for fun brushless DC motor parts at the junkyard. I guess I might do that Sunday, actually...
      Anyone know if the motor-generators are bathed in transmission fluid, coolant, or neither? I'm guessing ATF or air since I see no coolant deposits, but I couldn't tell for sure.

    • @kevindiaz-lane4404
      @kevindiaz-lane4404 7 лет назад +1

      It cooled by the ATF

  • @awesomeairguns
    @awesomeairguns 11 лет назад +5

    Nice video, the engineering in the Prius is amazing.

  • @MishaleStarling
    @MishaleStarling 8 лет назад +20

    IF you are going to work on cast aluminum on the ground, lay something soft down before placing a mating surface face down. Cast aluminum gouges and scrapes easily and mating surfaces are machined. Please do not do what they did and place it directly on concrete if you run into a corroded bolt and accidently turn the whole thing you could destroy the surface causing premature failure of parts and or leaks.

    • @chrissscottt
      @chrissscottt 6 лет назад +2

      And preferably hoist it onto a bench. Much easier and comfortable to work on.

    • @nick68231
      @nick68231 5 лет назад +2

      Yes, great video. I really enjoyed watching this as an owner of a Lexus RX400h with basically the exact same HSD system. A few pieces of advice to go along with what Mishale said though. I definitely agree with her about the gearbox 100% but another thing. The metal tools as well should not be used on any machined mating surfaces, especially soft aluminum. No metal hammers to pop out gears either. They make hard plastic wedges and special plastic tools for that, plastic hammers to bang on the wedges and gears.

  • @Hongzbengkelspesialismatic
    @Hongzbengkelspesialismatic 3 года назад

    this video is very useful, I wish you success always and don't get bored to share your knowledge with the world, greetings from automotive from Indonesia

  • @ryshask
    @ryshask 3 года назад

    Pretty cool teardown. I definitely appreciate what Toyota has done in terms of hybrid tech more than I ever did before.

  • @gregcollins3404
    @gregcollins3404 8 лет назад +13

    BTW, with those lineman gloves, you are supposed to wear the accompanying leather gloves over them to protect the insulation. The rubber gloves by themselves can be easily damaged and should not be trusted with high-voltage.

  • @1g2002541
    @1g2002541 4 года назад

    awesome video, the first time reveal of the heart of the Toyota hybrid system

  • @Hongzbengkelspesialismatic
    @Hongzbengkelspesialismatic 3 года назад

    sangat bermanfaat video ini semoga sukses selalu dan tidak bosan untuk membagi edukasi ilmunya kepada dunia ,salam dari otomotif dari Indonesia

  • @whathappenswhen4767
    @whathappenswhen4767 7 лет назад +1

    the complexity of these hybrid cars makes you really appreciate your car.

  • @Brianhartmanmusic
    @Brianhartmanmusic 12 лет назад

    I'm just a Prius owner and looking at this device I feel like I own a seriously advanced piece of engineering. This is seriously high technology. To the un initiated it looks like it came from outer space.

  • @inlinesicks
    @inlinesicks 11 лет назад +1

    Awesome video! The transmission is actually much simpler than I thought it would be.

  • @atilladolphun
    @atilladolphun 9 лет назад

    verry verry informitive. i was under the impression that the motor and electric motor were on a seprate drive thank you verry much for posting this video.

  • @circusboy90210
    @circusboy90210 12 лет назад

    20:03 hpm magnetic motors also suffer less from heat & generate less heat on start up, and also use much less intitial inductive load which keeps the heat down & lengthens the life of the motor they also weigh much less .

  • @DJDAudio
    @DJDAudio  12 лет назад

    That does make allot of sense for less eneregy is loss in inducing magnetic fields via current in the rotor as heat. Thanks!

  • @circusboy90210
    @circusboy90210 12 лет назад

    yes , it's just good work habit to always do things properly even if it is broken. remember bad habits are easy to form while good habits hard to achieve. yes I'm guilty of typical guy thing too sometimes when I really want something done yesterday.

  • @brucemitzit166
    @brucemitzit166 12 лет назад +3

    Nice job. Amazed you guys are crawling on the floor. I'd need a chiropractor after that.

  • @allenludwig3626
    @allenludwig3626 8 лет назад +1

    this was really interesting, I wondered how they work you guys did a good job, . you hit the hight points now the unit work,I have a general idea of how it all works now thanks

  • @axmed711
    @axmed711 9 лет назад

    Nice u r my best two amazing guys will like to hear from u again thanks to you two from a prius v owner guy

  • @SoHighIFly
    @SoHighIFly 3 года назад

    @ 15:30 another reason why it doesnt run is because its "poling" without the rear bearing being located and the air gap being small, the rotor is being pulled by the magnetic field over to the stator

  • @dustinswatsons9150
    @dustinswatsons9150 Год назад

    The video has had a lot of impact on me thanks

  • @tombutsik
    @tombutsik 12 лет назад

    Thank you guys for your effort to show how that thing work..

  • @ysensei587
    @ysensei587 8 лет назад +4

    Very educational, Thanks!

  • @DJDAudio
    @DJDAudio  12 лет назад +1

    Thanks!, Jason the Tech in the Video let me know they go through extensive training on how to open these, we had the phone book sized manual sitting on the desk next to us. But being that we did not plan to put it together again, and that it was damaged in a wreck, we did the typical 'guy' thing and skipped the manual :)

    • @fabianolivas6782
      @fabianolivas6782 4 года назад

      Friend, what are those orange cables that are connected to the motor and what are they for and how do they work?

    • @adamturowski3765
      @adamturowski3765 2 года назад

      @@fabianolivas6782 They are connecting the motor to the inverter.

  • @thakiid1013
    @thakiid1013 10 лет назад +16

    why dont they have a table?

    • @enquire422
      @enquire422 7 лет назад +2

      Thakiid101 Because they are Chinese!

    • @EmmadCheema-gv6iu
      @EmmadCheema-gv6iu 6 лет назад +3

      because they are trained proffesionals

  • @mrmrpaice
    @mrmrpaice 12 лет назад

    Awesome footage guys, both practical and informative and highly useful to technicians. many thanks

  • @Medalavi
    @Medalavi 9 лет назад +1

    if the electric motor burns for any reason does the engine runs to get you from point A to point B?

  • @paulfontaine7819
    @paulfontaine7819 6 лет назад

    Thank you for having such a perfect sound.

  • @KiwiMaker
    @KiwiMaker Год назад

    Wow the planatery gears are actually quite small. Thanks for the vid

  • @chromebook6927
    @chromebook6927 10 лет назад

    it is maybe like a torque converter when is spins then grabs , I just thought of that because I had one go bad at one time and that is what it does like slipping then grabbing but with a noise ,bang

  • @circusboy90210
    @circusboy90210 12 лет назад +3

    9:15 when removing large panels it is best to remove the fasteners in a star pattern there is less risk of warping the item in question when doing so.

  • @psychiatry-is-eugenics
    @psychiatry-is-eugenics 4 года назад

    4:25 - those are inner liners , electrical gloves have 2 layers , the inner liner and outer leather ?

  • @TheFlacker99
    @TheFlacker99 11 лет назад +2

    Thank you for recording the teardown :)

  • @justinsincoise6693
    @justinsincoise6693 9 лет назад

    Very informative. Thanks guys. That was brilliant insight. Now I know my prius v a little better.

  • @DJDAudio
    @DJDAudio  12 лет назад

    @TheTrueRandomness
    Thank you!
    I do A/V for a living so that may have helped. :) I was not able to get a camera man this time, and with one of the cameras that would only record for 5 Min at a time I had to get creative with editing haha

  • @ShahNawaz-ji1dm
    @ShahNawaz-ji1dm Год назад

    Thanks for the info: Love you guys

  • @albaadanim
    @albaadanim 11 лет назад

    Also the orange wires are strict when u hook them up or what is the order if I just want to make sure they are correct. I replaced the battery and tried another inverter but so far engine wouldn't turn at at. I hear a click but never turn the engine. Even when the car in ready mood. Thanks for the help. Love the video

  • @DJDAudio
    @DJDAudio  12 лет назад

    Good catch!, but with the alternator I was running about 20V AC max much safer then the 300VAC found in the Prius. so no need for the gloves here.

  • @salas231141
    @salas231141 5 лет назад +2

    So all this time I thought that was a traditional CVT transmission it apparently is not that is why the last so long

  • @robertdeffenbaugh4479
    @robertdeffenbaugh4479 5 лет назад

    I'm amazed how small this transmission is. I wonder how much larger the coils would be on the Volt?

  • @blaqkhavok4863
    @blaqkhavok4863 5 лет назад

    Is there a way to seperate/remove the transmission from the output of mg1 and 2? As in... would it be possible to take an out put from the motors and hack off the housing section of the transmission to possibly weld on an adapter plate... ?

  • @K9malinois_dog_love
    @K9malinois_dog_love 4 года назад

    Fantastic work!

  • @jimmydean111
    @jimmydean111 11 лет назад +2

    That was Fantastic!! Thank You!!

  • @reelMn
    @reelMn 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the video, really helpful. My Mk1 Prius has a mechanically-operated park pawl that's not engaging for whatever reason, I'm trying to figure out if it's a massive job to get it out, in case it it broken, or whether it could be the cable isn't pushing it far enough to engage.

  • @onefixitman
    @onefixitman 4 года назад

    You guys know they make battery powered impact drivers to speed the cover removal process. Good vid.

  • @bilbil2960
    @bilbil2960 2 года назад

    Hi you should take off the mg2 stater first before the router.

  • @suncitybooksgeraldton335
    @suncitybooksgeraldton335 9 лет назад +1

    using a VFD (Variable frequency drive) $150 new ebay 1.5-2 kw .5 - 400 hz would allow a gradual ramp up in speed for testing with no load a 30 - 50 kw VFD would allow the motor to used to full power (disable power split planet gears,speed encoder, 300v to dc bus in VFD for a pure electric prius

  • @rcghalohell
    @rcghalohell Месяц назад

    Think I figured out where my transmission failed. Somewhere between the chain and planetary gearset, seeing how it can't move or charge and makes a grind. That or a bearing went and dislodged or grenaded that main set between the motors

  • @frederickilozue4466
    @frederickilozue4466 7 лет назад +2

    Hello guys. Thanks a lot for this video. Please do you have a tear down video of the 3rd generation gearbox? I bought a brand new Prius 3rd gen. from the US and shipped to Nigeria where I live. It started rattling almost from the very beginning. Initially I thought some objects had fallen into the fans but after a careful check I found nothing outside. Prius is not sold in Nigeria and I didn't want it completely damaged by quacks.
    I strongly suspect something wrong with the transaxle . I am a mechanic. I have checked inside the engine with a borescope and found nothing. I have changed the IGR and also chucked the intake manifold; both are pristine clean as the vehicle has done only 17000 miles in all. The car has been grounded for a year as the rattling got out of control and the Check Hybrid System won't let it engage the drive or neutral. It quakes heavily on starting and practically shuts down immediately with a warning to check hybrid system.
    Please I appreciate any advice. I couldn't get the service manual to buy.

    • @stevencorrea7982
      @stevencorrea7982 6 лет назад

      Very confused. You should be able to get a manual. Not like a Tesla. These are much more complicated than a Tesla. But Tesla have problems with other people fixing their cars. For the life of me I can't figure out why? I wish I was a very good mechanic. Internal combustion engines are just too complicated for me. Electric is the way to go.

    • @steve5912
      @steve5912 5 лет назад +1

      You must be gay if you dont like a roaring v8.

    • @hedgehogthesonic3181
      @hedgehogthesonic3181 4 года назад

      @@steve5912 Loud, inefficient, unnecessary pollution, not worth such pain.

    • @steve5912
      @steve5912 4 года назад +1

      @@hedgehogthesonic3181 your an actual pussy dude

    • @hedgehogthesonic3181
      @hedgehogthesonic3181 4 года назад

      @@steve5912 Vehicles must be as efficient as possible to get from point A to point B as efficient as possible, with the least amount of pollution, there is no need for an unnecessary loud, inefficient V8

  • @paulwharton1850
    @paulwharton1850 7 лет назад

    Excellent - Very interesting.
    Thank you so much.

  • @anthonymchale1741
    @anthonymchale1741 4 года назад

    Awesome vid I have always been so curious what it looked like in side ...Mine is at 300K and I think it is going to my project tear down ..I think its an inverter issue so might not make to transmission ..thx guys !!

  • @ginangric
    @ginangric 12 лет назад

    Why UR not using a impact cordless tool suitable for transmissions, I fell sleepy wile U wore ratcheting, and also nice set up on the battery station, I use to have my stereo there.
    although Very Good Job . no often we're going to see this

  • @sandhu7121
    @sandhu7121 3 года назад

    Having fun these guys

  • @64davrecon
    @64davrecon 9 лет назад +1

    Great Video, Thanks for posting!
    One question I have about the transmission's operation that I just can't wrap my head around, is - Is there any kind of physical or mechanical brake on the rotation of the MG1 (the smaller one)?
    That power split device looks very much like an open diff.
    It seems like there's a lot of opportunity for power to spill out the back of the transmission (thru MG1) when the ICE and the main motor MG2 are turning at full torque, much like when you lift one wheel of an open differential off the ground and that unloaded wheel spins up uncontrollably. How do they stop that?

    • @kenstein
      @kenstein 9 лет назад +1

      +64davrecon I'm honestly not sure, but you can use a brushless motor as somewhat of a brake - you just shunt the windings all to ground and it becomes an eddy current brake, effectively. It won't completely stop the shaft, there will be some slippage, but it will bring it nearly to a halt, which is good enough in this case. If you want peak efficiency you could even put that power into charging the battery to apply reaction force to the MG1 rotor instead of just shunting it to ground.

  • @prmayner
    @prmayner 11 лет назад

    alternator on steriods. thanks guys never seen one apart.

  • @douglas2510
    @douglas2510 4 года назад

    Djdaudio what do you think caused the windings to burn? Is the rotor and stators immerse cooled in transmission fluid too?

  • @SuperBeastin247
    @SuperBeastin247 3 года назад

    Great video ! I was left wondering what you did with the actuator to turn it into neutral

  • @RobertMeier-vo3kn
    @RobertMeier-vo3kn 2 месяца назад

    My prius don't go into the mg2 gear it kicks out. No power. Do you think it's the transmission?

  • @chromebook6927
    @chromebook6927 10 лет назад

    I have a 2004 civic hybrid qirh 184000 miles never been wreaked and when I start to take off from a stop I feel like a bang like a jump into gear type noise , it does it all the time when starting from a complete stop sometimes it is an easy noise or a harder bang like jumping into gear , like a trans slip , can you give me a idea of what this may be ,

  • @kevtris
    @kevtris 12 лет назад

    you can probably buy a cheap VFD (variable frequency drive) on ebay that will directly drive that motor off of 120V or 220V and allow varying power and speed

  • @shanepipkin4041
    @shanepipkin4041 Год назад

    would it help to run couple ounces high quality additive like archoil to the fluid?

  • @silaspc01
    @silaspc01 12 лет назад

    Great job, really interesting to watch.

  • @chromebook6927
    @chromebook6927 10 лет назад

    you seem to be pretty good at this electric mechanics ,I would like to know why the total electric car systems do no self charge , like putting some kind of system attached to the wheel where there is already motion and to recharge the system in a totally electric system to keep the batterys charged without plugging them into a outside source to charge . any ideas on this at all ,

    • @johnsmith-ci6nr
      @johnsmith-ci6nr 9 лет назад +1

      Because of the conservation of energy and law of entropy. Energy lost in traction and frictions cannot be recovered completely ( it can be but not in these times ! ). I mean not yet with this car, but it is coming. The technology is out there already, but the oil cartel oppose the wider application of a kind of "free energy". They don't want a free energy world. Nicola Tesla tried to implemented it about 100 years ago and they ruined him financially.

    • @mazinabdalla2323
      @mazinabdalla2323 6 лет назад

      No free energy at all

  • @mohamadsweed4987
    @mohamadsweed4987 4 года назад

    Hello my Toyota Prius 2007 My car has walked 33,000,0 km Can I exchange gear oil or will it cause problems and is there a filter inside the gear that needs to be changed Thank you

  • @Einstune
    @Einstune 11 лет назад

    awesome video! ya'll seem to know a lot about the hybrids, would you happen to know where the atf fill plug is on 2013/2012 camry hybrid, and how much of it the car lost when the passenger side axel was pulled out?

  • @dustinswatsons9150
    @dustinswatsons9150 Год назад

    Did you try running it with regenerative braking with a stethoscope attached to the transmission side I guess mostly.. final drive side

  • @westernspud504
    @westernspud504 7 лет назад

    i have a 2004 Prius i recently changed the mechanical pump on it , now the car will not start i thought it might have been the 12 volt batter but no joy , ugh i need some advise

  • @vasileios_glystridis
    @vasileios_glystridis 9 лет назад

    Nice video guys very cool and.......... keep walking,

  • @greatogbuagu1370
    @greatogbuagu1370 3 года назад

    My prius gen 3 stopped me on the road. It give P0335. Crankshaft Position Sensor. Sensor changed, wiring harness ok, Ecu changed still the car refused to start. I thinking the mg1 has gone bad. Before the car stopped me, it was rattling and making knocking sound on at slow moving speed when the HV battery is charging only. If the Mg1 stop charging the HV battery the rattling noise stops.
    Could it be my transaxle that is my problem. I thinking of buy new engine and transaxle?

  • @FWDSlip
    @FWDSlip 5 лет назад

    Great work guys, this is really helpful :)

  • @integdrd
    @integdrd 11 лет назад

    Great!!!! Loved the humor...very informative..

  • @davewreski6900
    @davewreski6900 5 лет назад

    I am not worried about the electrons -- I want to see you put the whole dam thing back together - Can't you fix that burned winding ?? The wire is cheap ?

  • @michael47lamb
    @michael47lamb 5 лет назад

    Hi Guys, Great Vid! I have a question about how the ATF gets into and all over the internal parts: I did not see any seals to contain the ATF in the gears so I am assuming it goes all over the place in the trans too. So does the ATF get all over the electric parts too? And doesnt that make a bit of a electrical shorting hazard as the ATF gets old/carries metal dust and breaks down? I also suspect that high freq high voltage would have little problem finding an electrical path through the ATF, especially when it is full of metal dust from the gears wearing over time. Any thoughts on this? Thanks.

  • @starwizardmanonthestarwiza2469
    @starwizardmanonthestarwiza2469 5 лет назад

    It looks like it might have been easier if you guys put it on a midsize table or use electrical or air tools when

  • @halllwd94
    @halllwd94 8 лет назад

    cool. do you have a by idea what changed between this and threw newest one in the 2016/17?

  • @adeletrott9069
    @adeletrott9069 4 года назад

    My Prius is at Toyota at the moment, it makes a whining noise when it gets to 60 mph. They are telling me they have to replace the whole gear box as it’s one unit. Also having problem with the Hibrid battery switch. Yet they are telling me they have to replace the battery rather than checking the cells. Feeling frustrated.

  • @michaelbalaun6390
    @michaelbalaun6390 4 года назад

    How often does that chain fail? Does it need to be replaced?

  • @NihalKp-vo9kw
    @NihalKp-vo9kw Год назад

    Thanks buddy
    Informative

  • @TheStudentoflove
    @TheStudentoflove 11 лет назад

    Thanks for the info,and taking the time to share it.

  • @pashautomotive
    @pashautomotive Год назад

    Hi my toyota aqua is giving me error code poa4c generator position sensor circuit range/performance
    Also p0a4d generator position sensor circuit low

  • @albaadanim
    @albaadanim 11 лет назад

    I changed my engine and now I couldn't get the engine to even run. It sound like it try to crank but doesn't move. The trans oil was very very law. Does that mean it was the problem and is the trans still good or bad. By the way the car move and drive. I mean inside the garage. What could be the problem.

  • @amirfalahat6720
    @amirfalahat6720 5 лет назад

    Thanks guys, it was very useful

  • @Wohren_Oss
    @Wohren_Oss 5 лет назад +1

    Great video!! Did you guys end up doing anything with them motors?

  • @dbradley3
    @dbradley3 12 лет назад

    @15:40...just wondering...was it safe to not wear the 10k V gloves?

  • @questionssm
    @questionssm 12 лет назад

    the look on the techs face was classic!

  • @kolapoolakonu2269
    @kolapoolakonu2269 10 лет назад

    Great Job!!! Doug and Jason,
    I love the Prius and i want to buy a used one (2004-2009 model), how can i avoid buying a Prius with transmission or Hybrid system trouble from either owner/dealer?
    I live in the hot and dry climate of Phoenix AZ.

    • @steve5912
      @steve5912 5 лет назад

      You must be gay if you dont like a roaring v8.

  • @TheTrueRandomness
    @TheTrueRandomness 12 лет назад +2

    That was awesome! Really informative, well planned, well edited. Simply awesome.
    Do you have a background in tv/related fields?

  • @yousiflakho1771
    @yousiflakho1771 5 лет назад

    Can we use this to build a generator

  • @timk484
    @timk484 Год назад

    How much did it cost to fix it?

  • @geodeaholicm4889
    @geodeaholicm4889 7 лет назад

    good job guys. my gen 2 2007 prius just ate something in the tranny, how hard is it to get the old one outa the car?
    i can't find anyone outside of the toyota dealer who will work on a prius.

  • @mileshy
    @mileshy 7 лет назад

    at the beginning of this video . . . I am thinking . .. I would like to see this transmission go back together . . . and see . . . how well it works . . . once these two guys put it all back together . . . .Glad it's not my car . . .

  • @johnnyrocket3994
    @johnnyrocket3994 11 лет назад

    Do alot of people buy a prius because its better for the environment?? If so, what makes it so good for the environment?

  • @knowledgeispower6949
    @knowledgeispower6949 Год назад

    Very educational video

  • @ronaldwilletts6906
    @ronaldwilletts6906 2 года назад

    Why are you working on the floor?

  • @mr.a5147
    @mr.a5147 7 лет назад

    People are people. Too true.

  • @stevencrusa
    @stevencrusa 12 лет назад

    Why do you guys work on the floor? Don´t you have a table to work on?

  • @jusdsun8319
    @jusdsun8319 11 лет назад

    So did you replace the bearing that had a gritty sound? If so did it fix the issue? I noticed something almost immediately after you split the cases, the "Chain" from the trans-axle to the final drive assembly was solid as a board! Drive chains are supposed to be loose and freely movable. Gen 2 used "Chain" drive, Gen 3 went to "Gear" drive. I bet that's why Toyota changed that design. From all the over comments doesn't look like anyone else noticed.

  • @jameswoodcock7902
    @jameswoodcock7902 12 лет назад

    wow is all i can say alot of work a bit beyond my knowledge but very interesting as im always studying this type of stuff so thanks for a real neat vid the gears i understand the electrics not quite ive taken apart computer harddrives so am fimiliar with very strong mags just those little things can pinch yur fingers ouch but im pretty daring and will take apart most anything

  • @jeancharlesfidelius8195
    @jeancharlesfidelius8195 7 лет назад

    thank you very much for this video, y'm french car mechanic and i will dead less 'slang' ! thanks to you.