Many thanks for the review of my maps John, It is appreciated. Just a few points of clarification, if you don't mind? 1. It should be TalkyToaster; the other spelling (name) is copyrighted by Grant Naylor (authors/creators of Red Dwarf). 2. My maps are not designed to replace OS maps, they are designed to be used alongside paper maps (OS/Harvey/IGN or their digital equivalents on a smartphone). They do not use any data from OS, just data from OpenStreetMap and NASA. This is partly because I do maps for everywhere across the World, not just the British Isles. However, they are the most detailed Topographical maps available that are based on data from OSM and NASA; they are specifically designed for hikers, mountain bikers, mountaineers, ultra athletes, military personnel, greenlaners, etc. 3. The names of the Tarns, etc. are on my maps, they are just not shown until you move the pointer over them (this is to keep the map as clear of less frequently required textual data). This is the same for quite a bit of my map data, simply move the pointer over the icon, path, peak, area and it will tell you what it is, it's name, other data (if that exists in OSM). There is also data in mine that will never be on an OS map, such as gates, stiles, benches, individual trees, bothy's/weather shelters, cairns, pistes, marine data (but not depths) etc. (again, where that data exists in OSM). All the maps I produce are updated at least once a month, with the British Isles map being updated every week. 4. With my map in BaseCamp you can create routes and it will snap to all routable ways, footpaths, bridleways, cycleways, roads, and other unclassified track types too. 5. My maps, like the Garmin TopoActive maps can be overlaid over Garmin BirdsEye satellite imagery.
Many thanks for clarifying those points, it is appreciated. This was very much 'my first impressions' but more videos coming over the coming month as we get to grips with everything and gain better knowledge on the maps.
@@pecanpie100 yes, I offer maps for each US State as well as US regional maps. In fact I offer maps for every country, region, state, province, etc. across the world. At the last count it was over 410 maps that I now offer…
@@talkytoaster-maps Thank you Martin for such a quick and informative reply! I am currently on your website checking it out! UPDATE: I went ahead and purchased the Topo DEM map for Arizona USA (self-install, automatic delivery) and I successfully loaded the mapping onto my Garmin Montana 700 and Epix Gen 2 watch. It was super easy to accomplish thanks to your excellent "how to" info on your website. The mapping looks great! Thank you for such an excellent product! 🙂
@@pecanpie100 Always happy to help where I can. If you have any questions, etc. please feel free to reach out to me via my website or phone and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
Hello Phoenix, Arizona. That’s beautiful terrain. It’s finally cooling off here so I’m gonna get out and hike in the desert and I’ll take some video and post it on my channel as well. You’ve given me some motivation to do so also thanks for showing how you get the map from your computer to the device. I don’t have a device like this yet, but I’ve been thinking about getting one as a back up to the old iPhone, I want to have some GPS device that works if the whole grid and Internet goes down. I’ve been doing a lot of thinking lately about back up back up power back up water back up devices everything. Thanks again.
Brilliant video (as always). Mapping is one of the most used features for me whether hiking, biking or running. Great to see the mapping comparisons here. Thanks for sharing.
Another nice walk and talk. I recently bought a 66s (second hand so not from you I’m afraid) having been a Fenix user for a long time. The cost of the 1:25,000 OS Garmin maps is eye watering and as I already have access to OS via a much cheaper subscription on my phone I bought the TT maps for the 66S. I have been really impressed with them. The detail is superior in many respects to the OS maps and the zoom clarity is fabulous. I used the 66S/TT combo for a 6 day hike along the South Downs Way. I both planned and navigated using the TT maps. Some of the extra detail available such as water points was invaluable. It was a really hot week and i hiked with my dog so knowing where i could get water was super helpful. Some of the detail you missed (e.g. the Tarn name) is there. Hover the pointer over it or set the map to show more detail and you’ll see it. Really pleased to see you do a review of these as they are a very cost effective alternative to the Garmin maps.
Thanks for your thoughts and I totally agree regarding the extra detail you get on the TT maps. You may also find this video of interest - ruclips.net/video/CpVoSqmYW_0/видео.html
Another excellent Walk & Talk. I use the TalkyToaster mapping on my 66s. The TT mapping is fantastic value for money, the mapping itself is very clear and, as you pointed out, stays sharp when the user zooms in. I find when zoomed in on the small screen of the GPS unit the TT mapping is far superior to the OS map. And the support from Martin at TT is fabulous. A GPS 66s from GPS Training with TT mapping is a fine combination!
Great video and thank you for looking at the TalkyToaster mapping. I’m now on my second 2 year subscription, I’m a big fan but like you I miss the OS maps occasionally. I got myself in a muddle a couple of weeks ago when I was trying to plan a route near Worthy Farm in Glastonbury. TT maps were showing paths etc but on the ground the paths were private and quite understandable too, it added about 4kms to my walk. All ok but when I checked the OS when I got back to the Airbnb, all became obvious. In 3 years this was the first time I had fallen over while using TT, but it was my bad planning and nothing to do with TT mapping.
Useful video. The difference between OS mapping and TT mapping is the Garmin Ordnance Survey mapping comes with Routeable Trail Data within the National Parks. It means turn by turn navigation to get back to ‘carpark’. Turns out TT mapping is even better, it will give tutn by turn not only within National Parks, but anywhere over the map and globe too!!! Thinking of gps I always thought in countryside, in a wild I will be able to choose a waypoint and gps will guide me to it, via pathes. What a disappointment it was to find out generally it is not the case. You have to upload track/route and follow it. Looks like TT maps has solution and do it propper way as it should be done. Thank you.
My TalkyToaster maps are routable via footpaths, bridleways, cycleways, roads, and other unclassified track types too. You can simply select a POI or Waypoint and if the Garmin is set up correctly for turn by turn routing it will navigate you to the POI/Waypoint... so yes, you can select the car park, or the waypoint you created for where you parked and use turn by turn navigation to get back to it. This works ANYWHERE on my maps, not just within national parks in the UK, and works the same in any of my maps for other countries, regions, etc. all over the world.
Hi Jon. During the review of your backpack contents, you mention ultra light waterproof jacket and trousers. Can you please advise the name of each, other than just Montane? Thanks
Ey up. Just come across your vid. I’ve never heard of this piece of kit. I was debating getting the fenix 7, but think it’s a little overkill for my needs. I normally just use the osmaps on my phone which always works well.
Nice to see a review on the TalkyToaster maps, they're great maps. I use them 95% of the time on my 65s most recently up Ben Nevis and the detail it has on is immense. It has the name of all the gulleys on the North Face which the OS does not. Did you have the detail turned onto "most" in the map settings as my Talky map always says the names of the bits of water, lakes and pretty much most things on the map? Also I like how the Talky maps show gates, buildings, water sources etc. Shows so much detail over OS. Though I still like going back to OS every now and then as I think the countours are much nicer on the OS but I tend to view OS on the phone OS app as on the devices the OS maps look awful especially for the money they charge for them!
Thanks for your thoughts on the video. I am now learning that the place names come in at a certain zoom level, so as you zoom out you do lose them. It makes sense. More TalkieToaster vids are coming up over the coming months as we slowly get to grips with it as an alternative.
Do you like the the 66s better or the 65s better? I’m having a really hard time deciding which one to buy. I’ll use it for hiking but mainly for off trail for scouting for hunting spots for whitetail deer.
Really interesting to actually see the TalkyToaster Maps in action and compared to OS. But how did you manage to get both OS and TalkyToaster Maps on the device at the same time?!?
Thanks for your question, there are instructions on they website taking you through it. I hope this helps - shop.talkytoaster.me.uk/maps/how-to-install-the-map
Hi good video but we're having a problem with a GPSmap 66S and I wonder if you could help: A simple hiking route has been created in Basecamp, uploaded to the device, it has about a dozen points and is only about 5 miles long. On the device; select routes, find, select the route of interest and click GO. Now the actual location of the GPS is about 20 miles away from the route to be followed. The device takes several minutes 'calculating'. It is actually calculating a route from the GPS location to the start of the route by road !!! Also the hiking route shown on the device doesn't match what can be seen in Basecamp where it was created; it has many extra 'spike' deviations. Can't see what settings to adjust to try and prevent this 'calculating' and routing from the device location to the start of the route to follow. Any advice or tips please??? On my GPSMap 62S it doesn't do anything like this, it simply will show the bearing to the start of the required route.
Jules, it sounds like your unit has not been set up. As you appreciate we don't give 1:1 training support over RUclips, but you can sign up to access our free training videos in our online resource and this will take you through setting your unit up correctly - gpsonlinecourse.co.uk/ Then go to Module1 - Unit 6 - GPSMap66,67 & 86 Series - Entering and changing settings in your GPS Device You will also find the setup sheet under the video. I hope this helps.
@@SouthernGuy82 Sorry, the Garmin GPSMAP66s is the better unit, but it ceased production a number of years ago now and was replaced firstly with the 66sr and then 67. I hope this helps.
You can download Talky Toaster maps from here (which i look at in this video) - shop.talkytoaster.me.uk/shop?source=7KR5 Os map card - gpstraining.co.uk/collections/maps/products/topo-great-britain-pro-1-50k I hope this helps.
Many thanks for the review of my maps John, It is appreciated. Just a few points of clarification, if you don't mind?
1. It should be TalkyToaster; the other spelling (name) is copyrighted by Grant Naylor (authors/creators of Red Dwarf).
2. My maps are not designed to replace OS maps, they are designed to be used alongside paper maps (OS/Harvey/IGN or their digital equivalents on a smartphone). They do not use any data from OS, just data from OpenStreetMap and NASA. This is partly because I do maps for everywhere across the World, not just the British Isles. However, they are the most detailed Topographical maps available that are based on data from OSM and NASA; they are specifically designed for hikers, mountain bikers, mountaineers, ultra athletes, military personnel, greenlaners, etc.
3. The names of the Tarns, etc. are on my maps, they are just not shown until you move the pointer over them (this is to keep the map as clear of less frequently required textual data). This is the same for quite a bit of my map data, simply move the pointer over the icon, path, peak, area and it will tell you what it is, it's name, other data (if that exists in OSM). There is also data in mine that will never be on an OS map, such as gates, stiles, benches, individual trees, bothy's/weather shelters, cairns, pistes, marine data (but not depths) etc. (again, where that data exists in OSM). All the maps I produce are updated at least once a month, with the British Isles map being updated every week.
4. With my map in BaseCamp you can create routes and it will snap to all routable ways, footpaths, bridleways, cycleways, roads, and other unclassified track types too.
5. My maps, like the Garmin TopoActive maps can be overlaid over Garmin BirdsEye satellite imagery.
Many thanks for clarifying those points, it is appreciated.
This was very much 'my first impressions' but more videos coming over the coming month as we get to grips with everything and gain better knowledge on the maps.
@@ukgpstraining understood, but I'm always happy to help where I can, so feel free to contact me if you have any questions, etc.
@@pecanpie100 yes, I offer maps for each US State as well as US regional maps. In fact I offer maps for every country, region, state, province, etc. across the world. At the last count it was over 410 maps that I now offer…
@@talkytoaster-maps Thank you Martin for such a quick and informative reply! I am currently on your website checking it out! UPDATE: I went ahead and purchased the Topo DEM map for Arizona USA (self-install, automatic delivery) and I successfully loaded the mapping onto my Garmin Montana 700 and Epix Gen 2 watch. It was super easy to accomplish thanks to your excellent "how to" info on your website. The mapping looks great! Thank you for such an excellent product! 🙂
@@pecanpie100 Always happy to help where I can. If you have any questions, etc. please feel free to reach out to me via my website or phone and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
Hello Phoenix, Arizona. That’s beautiful terrain. It’s finally cooling off here so I’m gonna get out and hike in the desert and I’ll take some video and post it on my channel as well. You’ve given me some motivation to do so also thanks for showing how you get the map from your computer to the device. I don’t have a device like this yet, but I’ve been thinking about getting one as a back up to the old iPhone, I want to have some GPS device that works if the whole grid and Internet goes down. I’ve been doing a lot of thinking lately about back up back up power back up water back up devices everything. Thanks again.
Brilliant video (as always). Mapping is one of the most used features for me whether hiking, biking or running. Great to see the mapping comparisons here. Thanks for sharing.
Many thanks for your kind words, they are appreciated.
I've subscribed to your channel because of this video. Great job! Thank you!
Another nice walk and talk. I recently bought a 66s (second hand so not from you I’m afraid) having been a Fenix user for a long time. The cost of the 1:25,000 OS Garmin maps is eye watering and as I already have access to OS via a much cheaper subscription on my phone I bought the TT maps for the 66S. I have been really impressed with them. The detail is superior in many respects to the OS maps and the zoom clarity is fabulous. I used the 66S/TT combo for a 6 day hike along the South Downs Way. I both planned and navigated using the TT maps. Some of the extra detail available such as water points was invaluable. It was a really hot week and i hiked with my dog so knowing where i could get water was super helpful. Some of the detail you missed (e.g. the Tarn name) is there. Hover the pointer over it or set the map to show more detail and you’ll see it.
Really pleased to see you do a review of these as they are a very cost effective alternative to the Garmin maps.
Thanks for your thoughts and I totally agree regarding the extra detail you get on the TT maps. You may also find this video of interest - ruclips.net/video/CpVoSqmYW_0/видео.html
Looking forward to seeing further video's on the TalkyToaster maps. I'm currently using them on my 65S, simply the best maps for Ireland by far!
Thanks for sharing your experience of the maps.
Another good explanation of the GPS & maps. Excellent.
Many thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Another excellent Walk & Talk. I use the TalkyToaster mapping on my 66s. The TT mapping is fantastic value for money, the mapping itself is very clear and, as you pointed out, stays sharp when the user zooms in. I find when zoomed in on the small screen of the GPS unit the TT mapping is far superior to the OS map. And the support from Martin at TT is fabulous. A GPS 66s from GPS Training with TT mapping is a fine combination!
Thanks for your comments, another TalkieToaster video next week (relating this time to watches) as we learn and understand things better.
Great video and thank you for looking at the TalkyToaster mapping. I’m now on my second 2 year subscription, I’m a big fan but like you I miss the OS maps occasionally. I got myself in a muddle a couple of weeks ago when I was trying to plan a route near Worthy Farm in Glastonbury. TT maps were showing paths etc but on the ground the paths were private and quite understandable too, it added about 4kms to my walk. All ok but when I checked the OS when I got back to the Airbnb, all became obvious. In 3 years this was the first time I had fallen over while using TT, but it was my bad planning and nothing to do with TT mapping.
Many thanks for your experiences of the maps, more videos are on their way as we get more to grips with the TalkyToaster maps.
Useful video. The difference between OS mapping and TT mapping is the Garmin Ordnance Survey mapping comes with Routeable Trail Data within the National Parks. It means turn by turn navigation to get back to ‘carpark’. Turns out TT mapping is even better, it will give tutn by turn not only within National Parks, but anywhere over the map and globe too!!! Thinking of gps I always thought in countryside, in a wild I will be able to choose a waypoint and gps will guide me to it, via pathes. What a disappointment it was to find out generally it is not the case. You have to upload track/route and follow it. Looks like TT maps has solution and do it propper way as it should be done. Thank you.
My TalkyToaster maps are routable via footpaths, bridleways, cycleways, roads, and other unclassified track types too. You can simply select a POI or Waypoint and if the Garmin is set up correctly for turn by turn routing it will navigate you to the POI/Waypoint... so yes, you can select the car park, or the waypoint you created for where you parked and use turn by turn navigation to get back to it. This works ANYWHERE on my maps, not just within national parks in the UK, and works the same in any of my maps for other countries, regions, etc. all over the world.
@@talkytoaster-maps this is fantastic! Exactly what myself and most people would need to get back to the place if lost. You’re a Legend!
An interview with @Martin Overton on the podcast would be very interesting.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Hi Jon. During the review of your backpack contents, you mention ultra light waterproof jacket and trousers. Can you please advise the name of each, other than just Montane? Thanks
Ey up. Just come across your vid. I’ve never heard of this piece of kit. I was debating getting the fenix 7, but think it’s a little overkill for my needs. I normally just use the osmaps on my phone which always works well.
You may find this video useful, in it I compare a watch to a handheld GPS unit - ruclips.net/video/8JyeULIrXhU/видео.html
I hope this helps.
Nice to see a review on the TalkyToaster maps, they're great maps. I use them 95% of the time on my 65s most recently up Ben Nevis and the detail it has on is immense. It has the name of all the gulleys on the North Face which the OS does not.
Did you have the detail turned onto "most" in the map settings as my Talky map always says the names of the bits of water, lakes and pretty much most things on the map? Also I like how the Talky maps show gates, buildings, water sources etc. Shows so much detail over OS. Though I still like going back to OS every now and then as I think the countours are much nicer on the OS but I tend to view OS on the phone OS app as on the devices the OS maps look awful especially for the money they charge for them!
Thanks for your thoughts on the video. I am now learning that the place names come in at a certain zoom level, so as you zoom out you do lose them. It makes sense.
More TalkieToaster vids are coming up over the coming months as we slowly get to grips with it as an alternative.
@@ukgpstraining Great stuff. It's nice to see some Talky content being done. Which device do you prefer the 66s or 65s?
Do you like the the 66s better or the 65s better? I’m having a really hard time deciding which one to buy. I’ll use it for hiking but mainly for off trail for scouting for hunting spots for whitetail deer.
Impartial in my middle name - but I would personally go for the 66s
Really interesting to actually see the TalkyToaster Maps in action and compared to OS. But how did you manage to get both OS and TalkyToaster Maps on the device at the same time?!?
Thanks for your question, there are instructions on they website taking you through it. I hope this helps - shop.talkytoaster.me.uk/maps/how-to-install-the-map
Hi good video but we're having a problem with a GPSmap 66S and I wonder if you could help: A simple hiking route has been created in Basecamp, uploaded to the device, it has about a dozen points and is only about 5 miles long. On the device; select routes, find, select the route of interest and click GO. Now the actual location of the GPS is about 20 miles away from the route to be followed. The device takes several minutes 'calculating'. It is actually calculating a route from the GPS location to the start of the route by road !!! Also the hiking route shown on the device doesn't match what can be seen in Basecamp where it was created; it has many extra 'spike' deviations. Can't see what settings to adjust to try and prevent this 'calculating' and routing from the device location to the start of the route to follow. Any advice or tips please??? On my GPSMap 62S it doesn't do anything like this, it simply will show the bearing to the start of the required route.
Jules, it sounds like your unit has not been set up.
As you appreciate we don't give 1:1 training support over RUclips, but you can sign up to access our free training videos in our online resource and this will take you through setting your unit up correctly - gpsonlinecourse.co.uk/
Then go to Module1 - Unit 6 - GPSMap66,67 & 86 Series - Entering and changing settings in your GPS Device
You will also find the setup sheet under the video.
I hope this helps.
What do you recommend better the etrex se or gpsmap 66s?
Best buttoned GPS unit on the market - Garmin GPSMAP67 - ruclips.net/video/P57RipmV5hI/видео.htmlsi=KCFjbwLKpMD5zo8U
@@ukgpstraining I was asking between the etrex se and 66s I know the 67 obviously is the best but not everyone can afford it
@@SouthernGuy82 Sorry, the Garmin GPSMAP66s is the better unit, but it ceased production a number of years ago now and was replaced firstly with the 66sr and then 67. I hope this helps.
Is there a setting on the gps66 and the Fenix 6 Pro that stops the map rotating when you stop walking for a few seconds?
Sadly there is no way of stopping the map rotating, it should only be moving though when you rotate it. Is it jumping around when you are stationary?
@@ukgpstraining thanks yes maps rotate on both devices when stationary.
@@jeg569 have you calibrated the compass on both devices?
@@talkytoaster-maps not recently, they both work fine apart from the map spinning round when stopping briefly
My map shows nothing like what you have. How do I get that?
You can download Talky Toaster maps from here (which i look at in this video) - shop.talkytoaster.me.uk/shop?source=7KR5
Os map card - gpstraining.co.uk/collections/maps/products/topo-great-britain-pro-1-50k
I hope this helps.
Question… are you in the UK intended to use our Galileo GNSS satellites? 🤭
Yes, this and all units made after this one (Garmin GPSMAP 66s) uses the Galileo satellites.
I hope this helps.
@@ukgpstraining it was meant as a joke. After Brexit, are islanders still entitled to use the European positioning system? 🤣🫣
I’m sorry John but I can hardly hear you at times because of the background music
Please accept my apologies, I got a bit carried away on that video. I keep learning! Appreciate the feedback.