It's crazy how this old film depicts combat between knights more realistically than the majority of modern movies. They improvise with saddles, broken lances, anything they can find to protect themselves. They wrestle and fight each other with fists when they get too close to one another. No swords cleaving through armor like butter. No climactic gloating or taunting towards the end of the fight. That's how it really was. Gritty. Quick. Brutal.
I agree with you, my two cent in this Because nowadays there's too much of technology involved ... that lacked of the originality of what a man can do in making epic movies,
Damn I love this movie, Knights, Mideival vibes, the celluloid of the cinematography, the set design and costume, sophia loren. This Director was working like the rent was due
Rather, inaccurate and cheesy CGI. Half the films move at breakneck speed so you can't really see the background because it's a cheap imitation of reality, usually created by people with zero accurate sense of place and history.
A shout out to Miklós Rózsa for composing the wonderful music to this scene. It effortlessly and vibrantly captures the feel of medieval Spain and also has when necessary a deep religious reference. This scene would be diminished inestimably without it.
@@cyranoboughton874 He was pretty good as General Gordon of Khartoum, acting with Sir Laurence Olivier, but 55 Days in Peking was kind of clunky for me
Probably the best combat scene in cinematic history. It was staged by Yakima Canutt who also did the chariot race in Ben Hur. He started out working in the film industry as an actor for John Ford, but his real talent was as a stunt man. He had a long and illustrious career. I believe his son followed him in the same profession.
Yakima Canutt was the Greatest Stuntman and Stunt Coordinator of his time. Yakima's son Joe doubled for Charlton Heston in the Ben Hur Chariot race when he jumps the wreckage and goes flying over the front of the chariot. It wasn't planned but he managed to hold on and created one of the most hair-raising moments in film history. I agree that this is one of the greatest sword fights in film. Certainly the greatest Broad Sword combat.
One of my favorite movies of all-time. Even the great Martin Scorsese called EL CID, 'One of the greatest epic films ever made'. Scorsese loved it so much that he got involved in restoring the film, and got it re-released in 1993. Back during it's original release in 1961, the film received GOLDEN GLOBE nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Original Score. It also received OSCAR nominations for Best Art Direction, Best Score and Best Original Song. Sophia Loren received a BAMBI AWARD as Best Actress, and Charlton Heston received a BAMBI AWARD for Best Actor. Even though it was said to be the 4th most commercially successful film in 1961, and it has maintained a good size cult following over the past 50+years, it is still a somewhat under-celebrated film among the general public. It rarely gets shown on TV networks like other classic old epics such as SPARTACUS and BEN HUR do routinely. As far as I am concerned, EL CID ranks right up there with the Kirk Douglas epic, SPARTACUS, and also right up there with Heston's BEN HUR.
Totally agree. This is one of my most favourite films and it has this strange appeal: some think it has too many battle scenes, so it gets a mixed review. No, it isn't historically accurate, but when you think of when it was made I find it amazing that someone even agreed to do it! I'm glad they had the vision to make it, it will endure forever.
@@hollisearl : For me, it had a perfect mix of battle scenes -to- drama scenes. Yes, having the vision, and the courage to create that vision, isn't something that all people are willing to risk. Especially on an expensive epic. When you see the great finished results of that effort, it must be so rewarding a feeling to those involved. Not everyone will take to everything though, so for any artist, they must develop the thick skin to understand that they can't please everyone. That is okay though, that's just life.
If you'd like to see a similar scene, watch the new film "The Last Duel" if you haven't yet. Similarly set up but more detailed and refined in the contemporary film. I think they probably drew a lot of inspiration from this, unless this is pretty much almost exactly how all duels went.
This is a forgotten movie by many and one of Heston's best. He was possibly in more epic films than most and I believe was at his best in most of them.
I would pay to watch this movie again remastered in 4K on the big screen! No social agenda crap and rapid fire cuts, just glorious technicolour, great set and costume design and strong men and beautiful women!
@@tokyozardoz how much does participating in HMB cost with entry level armor, weapons and tournament fee? Also how do u get into a team and how does getting into a national team work?
@@amang1001 As far as entry level kit goes, it's going to cost you $3000US and up. If you compete internationally, there will be airfare and lodging to pay for as well. As far as getting on to a team and related fees, it depends on the country. For many countries, the teams are so small that if you have the right kit and show up, you're on the team. Other countries are much more competitive about who can represent the national team.
No modern epic screen ( like troy ) views or 1000 different montaz pictures for just one hit and about that hit one vularable moment and realistic quick kill, not screens on the faces of the one who about to die or the opponent or on the cats or flying crows , just pure realism and quick move (quick kill). As for the terrain place and set with view of castle the appearance of the musicians and uniforms general no words and in that time no CGI no even multiply the combars all they had to be dressed as the directors ordered no matter if the camera is close to them or not. Everything should look like the script medieval theme except the cameramen and the main creators. I remember when I had this film on video tape (once yupon a time..) It said that in the last battle were about 6000 people running in the coast of Valencia castle made. Even taras bulba of that age had not so Epic stuff !!!!
HAhahaha! I usually hate the stupid, unrealistic, unbelieving hateful criticism of most against just believing in and enjoying Hollywood and the Art of Story realistically...But yes, 100s of camera cuts per second is definitely right for some fights, and the reason I have looked at more of the idea of exposing the fight better in preference to what tiredness we have now that feels incomplete at times. Nothing wrong inherently with cuts, they have been used before and are necessary for a fight. But even Star Wars and other films cut back the number of cuts compared to "fast, no-action" fight scenes people don't always notice in tv shows and the like, where they do not have an open broad film making strategy, but keep it tight and narrow, possibly for budget, partlyy for character focus and being a "drama" or soap operic in many ways, and just not showing much of the actual punches and cheap, repetitive action that is not inspireed, relying on the camera shaking and cutting to emphasize the cheap action. Emphasis of action is correct with the camera, but is also is a con and a filler for many things.
I love this movie......I especially love the scene when Rodrigo shames the prince who has murdered his brother. Today's movies dont even come close. Hollywood can no longer create believable epics. Instead the churn out loud comic books. Here we have a hero who has real dimension.....a real flesh and blood man.
@@GGT950 As Argentinean descendant from Castilians (Don Pedro Barrero, was knighted by the King of Asturias after the battle of Navas de Tolosa, my mother Neris name was an old Castilian one), I prefer aristocratic modern English to Atlantic (neutral?) English in Medieval movies. Hate Elizabethan, find laughable NY Brooklyn in period pieces. At the same time, American movies Dubbed in Spanish Castilian, instead of Neutral (Latino) Castiluan sounds very strange in Hiapano-American ears. Once in the late 1980s, in my University Sci-Fi Cinema Club in Buenos Aires, '2001: An Space Odyssey' was shown in Spanish instead of Neutral Castilian (as usual in Argie TV). Assistants are still laughing their asses off 30 years later. Imagine HAL talking as a Spanish Grandee ...
This is one of the best knightly fight scenes ever filmed, in part because it is so brief. Real fights of that nature had to be. The combatants were wearing at least 40 pounds of armor and padding, they were closed up so no air got in and they were overheating like crazy, and at every second they were giving it literally all the strength they had. The adrenaline levels in a fight like that could reach near-toxic levels and just burned their strength like adding oxygen to a fire.
Yet the records say they actually fought long and hard enough battles...Throughout the day in fact...That they even would wind themselves in that armor and come close to overheating. They would stop even to open up their visors and rest at times. But there is nothing to say the fighting "had to be" quick. Fights are not quick because you need them to be quick, they are quick because you make them quick. But the armor would also increse their standing and the length of battle by using logic since that it is what you invoked, not facts nor history. Don't make up an idea of practical realism vs Hollywood and the Art of Story. It will lead you astray as far as realism is concerned even in this world and Story.
@@mitchellslate1249 The more armor, the more painful would the cause of death eventually be. Usually by being penetrated in the few places the armor can't protect; armpits and groin. I'd prefer fighting without armor and have a less painful death.
The medieval clothes used in this film are way more accurate than in recent films. They were very colorful as depicted in El Cid, IDK why modern movies insist on using dark colors and studded leather. lol
Not to mention the horsemanship while wearing all that stuff! Imagine the decades of training and conditioning that went into being a knight. No equivalent now.
@Semper fidelis Semper Paratus si si, mira!! Un burro volando. Coge un cazamariposas y te lo llevas a casa. O si quieres te coges al burro. El segundo coger, en tu idioma. Vale?
@themailman43 everything visual is bascially historically wrong in this movie. The movie is still a great piece of cinema, but the historical accuracy of it is totally null. The weapons are off by 5 centuries. This kind of jousting lances are at the very least a 14th century thing, the two handed montante are from the 16th century/Renaissance period. The kind of small heater shield they are using are a 14/15th century thing. The armor are completely wrong and resembles nothing historical but the closest era they would fit in is the 14th century with 15th century ideas in it. The heraldry is false as well: at this time Castille and León were two independant realms belonging to the same Jimena family, but it is wrong the show the quartered herald of Castilla y León realm, that suggests a union, that would only be the case after Alfonso of León inherits both titles. At the end of the 11th century, most things were built in wood still, stone castles were a very new thing, even in Castille. Knights would wear a gambeson and a hauberk of mail, and most likely a nasal conical helm, fighting with type X one handed arming swords and simple straight lances. Horses wouldn't have any barding whatsoever. And yeah, jousting 16th century style wasn't even a thing back then.
@themailman43 virtually nothing about this is historically accurate, and I'm speaking as a former archeologist. But it doesn't matter - this film is just superb.
100% woke free...no modern Hollywood trying to "change me." THIS is my type of film... I would wish Hollywood would go back to her golden years...but such wishes are for fools...for I know such a wish will NEVER AGAIN be granted!
Actually, it has a progressive message--Rodrigo is a uniter who sees past religious differences to the common defense and to a world where the fighting would end. He throws bread into Valencia, not catapulted fire and stones. What the progressives miss is that the world is also fundamentally brutal and you can't ignore the need for a strong, traditional defense (you know, the one involving masculine values and self-sacrifice that the progressives want to pretend is outdated). Strive whenever possible for the ideal but fight like hell when you have to.
To my point of view one of his best movies has been"The Wreck of the Mary Deare" in which he performed very well together with old and sick Gary Cooper !
In honor of those who always had, firmness, loyalty, HONOR, bizarreness, credit, opinion, perseverance, HUMILITY, and Obedience, As their Creed and Flag, Long live Spain. 💝
There were SO MANY things to love about this film, but one of things I liked is the character development of Prince Alfonso ( played by John Fraser ). He started out as a spoiled arrogant boy, but by the end of the film he learned humility, loyalty, and maturity. He became a true man, and a true King.
Which is what makes the Cid's appraisal of Alfonso so moving : "I have not failed. Spain has a King". What Makes a Great King? Exploring the Archetype of the King in Movies and Television ruclips.net/video/1pOnHjRK7BU/видео.html The Structure of Your Inner Child (Masculine Archetypes Part 3) www.jamesmathison.co.uk/boy-to-man/ The King Within (Masculine Archetypes Part 4) medium.com/@jsmathison/the-king-within-masculine-archetypes-part-4-40863054d235 “The King archetype in its fullness possesses the qualities of order, of reasonably and rational patterning, of integration and integrity in the masculine psyche. It stabilizes chaotic emotion and out-of-control behaviors. It gives stability and centeredness. It brings calm. And in its “fertilizing” and centeredness, it mediates vitality, life-force, and joy. It brings maintenance and balance. It defends our own sense of inner order, our own integrity of being and purpose, our own central calmness about who we are, and our essential unassailability and certainty in our masculine identity. It looks upon the world with a firm but kindly eye. It sees others in all their weakness and in all their talent and worth. It honors them and promotes them. It guides them and nurtures them toward their own fullness of being. It is not envious, because it is secure, as the King, in its own worth. It rewards and encourages creativity in us and in others.… “This is the energy that expresses itself through you when you are able to keep your cool when everybody else in the meeting is losing theirs. This is the voice of calm and reassurance, the encouraging word in a time of chaos and struggle. This is the clear decision, after careful deliberation, that cuts through the mess in the family, at work, in the nation, in the world. This is the energy that seeks peace and stability, orderly growth and nurturing for all people - and not only for all people but for the environment, the natural world. The King cares for the whole realm and is the steward of nature as well as of human society.” 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🇫🇷🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🇫🇷🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🇫🇷🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🇫🇷🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝
Knight perhaps but general? That’s ignorant. He was at most a military commander. The greatest generals of all time were Julius Caesar, Hannibal Barca, Alex the great, Napoleon, scipio africanas: not in any particular order
Sofia Loren no esplendor da beleza! Conheci o túmulo de El Cid na Catedral de Burgos (Espanha), e esse castelo em Belmonte na Espanha, por conta do filme. Sempre fui fã.
Heston was sadly underrated. I guess it's partially because he was so typecast. But when he got a role that allowed him to do some actual acting, he could be brilliant.
@@excellNexcel Cardinal Richelieu in the Three Musketeers. The player king in Hamlet, Leiningen in The Naked Jungle. For that matter, he was actually quite good in The Big Country. Basically, he was good as long as he was cast against type. It's weird, but in his case, his typecasting was also miscasting.
Yes especially the jousting, they mustve really reanacted it right? The way the horses charge one another and when Heston (or his stuntdouble most likely) brings the horse down with the saddle couldnt have been faked, at least not back then
Actually I love how the costumes and building look like new - which they would have been at the time, and not like they were excavated, as is common in modern "historical" movies
@@TrueFork the newness isn't the issue (I agree, films went way overboard on the grimy and groady Middle Ages schtick) but rather anachronistic weapons and armor all throughout this production.
And you know, as someone who studied the Crusades and the Reconquista, the Moors in this movie were given pretty short shrift. I know it was pretty standard for Hollywood at the time, but it was pretty egregious even for then.
@@deniscberte1638 The Crusades were originally preached in response to three causes: a] by the 1080's there was a common problem throughout all of Western Europe of too many 'second sons' surviving into adulthood; since only one son could inherit the land title and not all these rambunctious warriors were suitable for service in the Church, something had to be done with them. B] Byzantine emperor Alexios Komnenos had sent Pope Urban a letter asking for aid against the Seljuk Turks, who were a serious problem for Eastern Christendom; he filled the letter with stories of lots of hyperbole about murdered pilgrims etc.; He was hoping for a few thousand trained and equipped mercenaries, he did *not* want or expect a literal demographic movement of refugees and land-hungry conquerors. C] Lastly was the hellfire and brimstone nature of medieval religion; the Church promised redemption of all Earthly sins if someone 'took the Cross' and it is estimated that 50,000+ people did so... but only about 5000 or so were the trained warriors that Alexios wanted.
I loved this movie back in 1962 when I saw it in a theater when I was an 9 year old kid. I now have this movie in Blu-ray Disc and I still love it today. I love the pageantry and grandeur of those old epic films. 👍👏
More believable? Movies back then completely eschewed realism and historical accuracy. This entire scene was laughable. Considering the weapons, armor and props, this tournament could only have occurred at least 300 years after El Cid's death. Thankfully, modern period movies pay more attention to detail and realism.
@@josea.3170 I'm not talking about those stupid comic book movies. I'm talking about period pieces. They're just far more realistic. Movies like Dances with wolves, Unforgiven, Cold Mountain, Master and Commander, the Revenant, Kingdom of heaven. They look like the era they're trying to depict. They transport you back into time. El Cid looks like a Renaissance festival. Moses looks like a Hollywood studio. One exception that I can think of is Lawrence of Arabia.
Yo también tenia esa edad cuando la vi. Luego he visto escenas del rodaje nada menos que a Rodríguez De La Fuente portando el azor y conversando con Heston y a Menéndez Pidal igualmente en coloquio, ambos hablaban ingles fluido.
Charlton Heston was such a power house of a man, people like him, John Wayne, Kirk Douglas, Humphrey Bogart, Gregory Peck, Clark Gable, will never come along again.
Elaine Teut : Yeah, the stars of that golden era of Hollywood will always be my favorites. I am not going to knock some of the more modern age stars. There are some very excellent actors/actresses/directors in the modern age too. But I just think the films and the stars of those golden days will always hold the most special place in many people's hearts. Even many of our modern era stars feels the same way. They have such a great respect for those who paved the way.
Why can’t this movie be released on ITunes digital? I’m sure a lot of people would love to have El Cid in their collection. The Warlord is another great movie to have.
Beautiful, yes, but she doesn't have much to do here, and her expression scarcely changes. Genevieve Page acts rings around her. Sophia would come into her own with her next film "Two Women."
Magnificent Tournament scene from "El Cid".First rate action, acting,costumes,pagentry,cinematography,direction.script,music score.Everything a classic film should have, and seldom does in today's Hollywood.It's on my Top Ten List of the greatest adventure films of all time.
Great action sequence organised by the maestro Yakima Cannutt. Filmed at Belmonte Castle and well worth a visit as are the other locations of the film.
Say what you will about "historical accuracy" in most epic films; however, when it comes to filming "combat" be it" one-on -one to massive battle engagements;" "HOLLYWOOD" does one DAMN GOOD JOB of GETTING "THE PARTICULARS of REALISM" EXTREMELY WELL DONE/"DOWN PAT" or as the British would say; "SPOT -ON !"
The guy charlton heston is fighting has unreal stamina just attacks and attacks and attacks, then gets tossed hahah thats what happens when your not charlton heston
I saw this movie at the cinema, I was 6 years old. Imagine a child of my age seeing this on the big screen. It has to be seen on a cinema screen to truly appreciate it. I was open mouthed when the Moors charged Valencia. It gave birth to my love of wargaming. I know a lot of epic fans rate Ben Hur, but El Cid will always be one of my all time favorite films, without equal. I also saw Sophia Loren in the Millionairess on TV when I was old enough to appreciate she is the most beautiful women to walk the earth. (sigh)
@@carlochiocca2706 Yes! Six. The film was released in 1961. I saw it in 1962, as films in those days took a while to reach cinemas, especially provincial ones.
Not so. This movie counted with the advise of menendez pidal, one of the greatest medievalist and poligraphs of europe at his time, and probably the biggest expert ever on el cid. Taking aside some mistakes, the film reflects pretty well the nature of the character
What a legacy. Memorable epics : 54 Secrets of the Incas , 56 The Ten Commandments, 59 Ben Hur , 61 El CID, 63 55 Days at Peking , 65 The Agony and Ecstasy, 66 Khartoum ,68 Planet of the Apes and Will Penny , 71 The Omega Man , and 73 Soylent Green.
On a big screen in the early 1960's this was totally thrilling and I recall everyone in the theater was totally rapt as the vicissitudes of the fighting developed. The entire movie remains in my memory as a great cinematic experience, I was in my early teens. The music, the sets, the fighting and of course, great actors, under proper direction and production, all combined to make a great movie. It is still there now, for all to see, perhaps soon on a screen in high res the size of one's living room wall. And then almost the full effect of the experience will be available to the people of the future, to see what we saw, experience what we experienced and thus to understand the subversion of the dull emotionless valueless conformity that they will be offered in the attempt to deprecate humanity.
It is a testament to the great Yakima Canutt. His greatest work, and perhaps the most exciting scene in all of movie history was the Chariot race in Ben Hur, This a close second. Chuck Heston was my favorite actor. He is associated with the great epics. But I think it star shined brightest in movies like Touch of Evil and Will Penny. In his latter years he said Touch of Evil was his favorite role. He was also a great stage actor.
So, I'm a historian. Used to be a member of a medieval reenactment group and did a lot of research on the Crusades era. I LOVE this movie. No, it is no way historically accurate. It has about as much relation to actual history as 'The 13th Warrior' [another 'it's wrong but gloriously wrong' movie I love]. And here's the thing: if anything, the career of Roderigo de'Bivar, el Cid, is *more* incredible and intrigue filled than the movie portrays it. And the Granadans [that is, the Muslims living in Spain since 750 or so] of the era considered him as much a hero as the Castillians and Aragonnese did. I whole-heartedly recommend you look him up. Heston and Loren do such a wonderful job with one of the great romances of the Middle Ages, and Heston did many of his own stunts.
I know right, I have just watched this movie and they really don't make medieval movies this epic anymore. And yes I'm a Muslim but that doesn't matter, I love stories of knights and I love Charles Heston. I don't care how badly people want to blame everything on Muslims, my greatest passion have always been for the Medieval era. Wish hollywood could make medieval movies this epic today. Netflix just couldn't compare.
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 'Kingdom of Heaven' was pretty epic. I recommend the extended director's cut of the film... it does a much better job than the theater edit.
@@carlhicksjr8401 Yeah, I've watched the Extended Director's Cut too. It was great and far better than the Cinematic Release. A lot more explanation for what the hell is going on. Although funnily enough, when my late grandfather (bless his soul) saw the movie. he immediately thought it was just another western propaganda movie portraying the Muslims as the bad guys. He didn't even watch it, he just saw knights fighting against muslims and told me it was better not to watch such a move. Sometimes you just can't win with fear and paranoia.
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 If you're interested in another story that deals with the Crusades and portrays the Muslim side in a pretty even-handed fashion, I recommend a great Swedish TV series, 'Arn: the Knight Templar'. WONDERFUL stuff, especially since the actor who portrays Arn had never ridden a horse before he got this part. I recommend watching the uncut series, rather than the heavily-edited movie version.
In addition to watching Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar vanquish Martin Gomez for championship of Calahorra, now watch Judah Ben-Hur race his quadriga against Messala in the hippodrome @ ruclips.net/video/frE9rXnaHpE/видео.html
ma vogliamo parlare per una volta della colonna sonora! una delle piu' belle in assoluto! si parla sempre di attori, scene, costumi ma la musica, quanto incide sulla riuscita di un film e questa incide davvero tantissimo!
Those were real metal weapons they were using, no special effects. Think about that when you see Charleton Heston using the saddle as a shield. One wrong swing and he would probably lose his arm.
@@mikegrossberg8624 Swords of that weight don't have to be sharp in order to do damage. I'm a police officer and i had to attend to a scene where a home owner (A man well into middle age) defended his wife, his home and himself against three home invaders with one of those cheap "samurai" swords. Even though that sword did not have any type of an edge on it. The damages it inflicted turned my stomach and iI've seen some graphic sights. One of the attackers had put up his arm to fend of a blow. It cut through his thick forearm breaking the bone. Now i don't know how much power the old home owner put into that swing. But i somehow doubt it was more than what the actor was using in this scene
@@michaelscott8567 Before I respond to your post, let me say this. My father was a New York City police officer for 32 years. One of my uncles was a lieutenant, and another was a sergeant. I, myself, served as a civilian clerk in a station house in Brooklyn for six years. Although I was never out on the street, I still got to see a little of what people can do to each other, as well. All of that said, I would never dispute your statement; I have no doubt what you describe happened. The only thing I WILL say is that, when making a film, every precaution is taken to minimize "damage" to the actors(insurance companies tend to be very INSISTANT about that!). That includes making weapons that LOOK real, but usually AREN'T. I doubt that the swords used in the scene under question were actually as heavy as they looked; likely the blades WEREN'T steel, but some lighter, possibly even non-metal, material. Film-making IS, after all, the art of illusion! In closing, thank you for your service to your community. I KNOW how hard that service can be
@@mikegrossberg8624That's true, but with the speed and power they were swinging, they could still do damage. In the one scene, Heston was holding the saddle straight out, not going low, not going high. The saddle had to be right there so the other actor could swing below it, on top of it or above it. The saddle was real and the sword was (dull) but real. There was still some risk there. They minimized it as best they could and still got a fantastic action shot.
It is saying something. But it all a personal viewpoint. Personally i think Sophia Loren is possibly the most beautiful woman who ever lived. Just my point of view.
@@Boric78 I agree also, that it is a matter of personal opinion. Sophia is unarguably one of the most gorgeous women ever to walk the earth, the sort fleets of ships are sent to pursue, but Genevieve just gets to me personally.
I don't know anything about horses. How did Dom Rodrigo manage to get out unscathed after being trampled by Dom Martin's horse? I read in a specialized magazine that this clash with spears was choreographed by one of the best martial arts experts of the time. 🤔
Una de mis peliculas favoritas desde hace55 anos no me canso de verla desde que la vi en el cine Capitol. Y mi actor favoritoChatlton Heston que tiempos aquellos .M L M P
@themailman43 I meant, as if Hollywood was ever run by conservatives. It has always been a liberal bastion except in its infancy (e.g., Birth of a Nation, etc)
La primera vez que vi esta película era un niño de 8 o 9 nueve años, que la vio en un cine de verano, en la playa de uno de los pueblos de Valencia en la que muchas familias solían veranear. Desde luego, no pudo haber un entorno más adecuado. Saliendo del cine y aunque era de noche, quería ir corriendo a la playa a ver si podía ver cabalgar a Don Rodrigo por la costa, y a acabar con los almorávides 😄😄😄 The first time I saw this movie I was a 8 or 9 little boy, who saw it in a summer cinema, at the sea shore of one of the towns of the province of Valencia where lots of families were enjoying their summertime. It couldn't exist a more appropiate place to watch it. I left the cinema running to the beach, though it was closed night, willing to see Don Rodrigo riding his horse, and finish with all the almoravids swinging and imaginary sword....
It's crazy how this old film depicts combat between knights more realistically than the majority of modern movies. They improvise with saddles, broken lances, anything they can find to protect themselves. They wrestle and fight each other with fists when they get too close to one another. No swords cleaving through armor like butter. No climactic gloating or taunting towards the end of the fight. That's how it really was. Gritty. Quick. Brutal.
Well said.
Parabéns, isso mesmo. Conheci esse castelo por causa do filme. è muito interessante, e a cidade pequena de apenas 2.000 habitantes.
I agree with you, my two cent in this Because nowadays there's too much of technology involved ... that lacked of the originality of what a man can do in making epic movies,
I think this is the only movie to depict the brutal speed and impact in jousting.
These really were fights to the death.
Damn I love this movie, Knights, Mideival vibes, the celluloid of the cinematography, the set design and costume, sophia loren. This Director was working like the rent was due
Not to mention Sophia Loren! They really don’t make 'em like her anymore!
Call me old fashioned, but watching old movies like these reminds me how much we can do without NEEDLESS CGI.
"Yeah, but this scene could've been improved with an exploding helicopter, two dinosaurs and a flying saucer" - Every current-generation director.
You are 100% correct!
Rather, inaccurate and cheesy CGI. Half the films move at breakneck speed so you can't really see the background because it's a cheap imitation of reality, usually created by people with zero accurate sense of place and history.
However it is better for the animals. Over 100 horses were killed making Ben Hur.
Jak polski film krzyżacy
A shout out to Miklós Rózsa for composing the wonderful music to this scene. It effortlessly and vibrantly captures the feel of medieval Spain and also has when necessary a deep religious reference. This scene would be diminished inestimably without it.
Our Irish clan went down and helped el Cid push his enemies from Catholic Spain.
Every movie buff knows of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS and BEN-HUR. But I think EL CID should be part of an exalted trilogy of Charlton Heston film epics.
And THE WARLORD!
55 Days in Peking ... Khartoum ...
@@cyranoboughton874 He was pretty good as General Gordon of Khartoum, acting with Sir Laurence Olivier, but 55 Days in Peking was kind of clunky for me
Ed Vega Not. Heston.
Ed Vega Charleston Heston yes
The music with this film is phenominal. Absolute masterpiece. The movie was, within itself, also an absolute legendary masterpiece.
Phenomenal.
Probably the best combat scene in cinematic history. It was staged by Yakima Canutt who also did the chariot race in Ben Hur. He started out working in the film industry as an actor for John Ford, but his real talent was as a stunt man. He had a long and illustrious career. I believe his son followed him in the same profession.
Yakima Canutt was the Greatest Stuntman and Stunt Coordinator of his time. Yakima's son Joe doubled for Charlton Heston in the Ben Hur Chariot race when he jumps the wreckage and goes flying over the front of the chariot. It wasn't planned but he managed to hold on and created one of the most hair-raising moments in film history. I agree that this is one of the greatest sword fights in film. Certainly the greatest Broad Sword combat.
One of my favorite movies of all-time. Even the great Martin Scorsese called EL CID, 'One of the greatest epic films ever made'. Scorsese loved it so much that he got involved in restoring the film, and got it re-released in 1993. Back during it's original release in 1961, the film received GOLDEN GLOBE nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Original Score. It also received OSCAR nominations for Best Art Direction, Best Score and Best Original Song. Sophia Loren received a BAMBI AWARD as Best Actress, and Charlton Heston received a BAMBI AWARD for Best Actor. Even though it was said to be the 4th most commercially successful film in 1961, and it has maintained a good size cult following over the past 50+years, it is still a somewhat under-celebrated film among the general public. It rarely gets shown on TV networks like other classic old epics such as SPARTACUS and BEN HUR do routinely. As far as I am concerned, EL CID ranks right up there with the Kirk Douglas epic, SPARTACUS, and also right up there with Heston's BEN HUR.
Totally agree. This is one of my most favourite films and it has this strange appeal: some think it has too many battle scenes, so it gets a mixed review. No, it isn't historically accurate, but when you think of when it was made I find it amazing that someone even agreed to do it! I'm glad they had the vision to make it, it will endure forever.
@@hollisearl : For me, it had a perfect mix of battle scenes -to- drama scenes. Yes, having the vision, and the courage to create that vision, isn't something that all people are willing to risk. Especially on an expensive epic. When you see the great finished results of that effort, it must be so rewarding a feeling to those involved. Not everyone will take to everything though, so for any artist, they must develop the thick skin to understand that they can't please everyone. That is okay though, that's just life.
@@PlanetBlake sweetly put...right on the money!!
@@PlanetBlake I can't improve on your comment.
@@raypurchase801 👍
To me it's the best combat scene ever played out ! I have watched this movie from time to time in over 30 years and I'm still taken back by it 👌👌👌👍
Agreed, it doesn't get any better than this
If you'd like to see a similar scene, watch the new film "The Last Duel" if you haven't yet. Similarly set up but more detailed and refined in the contemporary film. I think they probably drew a lot of inspiration from this, unless this is pretty much almost exactly how all duels went.
Aback.
Check it out! Polish movie from 1960.
ruclips.net/video/2AZPfJSlqLc/видео.html
"He has much to fight for."
I first saw this movie as a kid and even then I loved that cold, calculating voice.
Truth has calculation to it.
This is a forgotten movie by many and one of Heston's best. He was possibly in more epic films than most and I believe was at his best in most of them.
its rarely on TV thats why its not as well known. I might see it shown 1 time a year at best or maybe 1 time every 2 years
No one as Chuck Heston to portrait a hero. GREAT MOVIE!!! One of the best of all times!
I would pay to watch this movie again remastered in 4K on the big screen! No social agenda crap and rapid fire cuts, just glorious technicolour, great set and costume design and strong men and beautiful women!
The outdoor scenes were filmed at Castle Belmonte in Spain. I fought in an armored battle tournament at this very same place.
Were you in the SCA in Europe?
I ask because in the way back I was a heavy 'stick jock' in AnTir, the SCA 'kingdom' in the Pacific NW.
@@carlhicksjr8401 I was on the Japanese HMB team. HMB is like SCA but with metal weapons and punching/kicking/wrestling is allowed.
@@tokyozardoz how much does participating in HMB cost with entry level armor, weapons and tournament fee? Also how do u get into a team and how does getting into a national team work?
@@amang1001 As far as entry level kit goes, it's going to cost you $3000US and up. If you compete internationally, there will be airfare and lodging to pay for as well. As far as getting on to a team and related fees, it depends on the country. For many countries, the teams are so small that if you have the right kit and show up, you're on the team. Other countries are much more competitive about who can represent the national team.
@@tokyozardoz thank u for the info and response.
I’ll never forget seeing EL CID with my Dad. I was 8 years old with a Boyhood Crush for Sophia Loren.
Who didn't have a crush on Sophia Loren.
Ditto, except that I was about 10 years old. ROTFLOL!!!
Lawrence Bittke I too was about that age and I didn’t know who Sophia Loren was, only that the woman in the film was smoking hot. Lol
Lawrence Bittke: Yeah, you were not the only one who crushed on Sophia. She was a babe for sure. She was sexy and sensual, without being sleezy.
@@PlanetBlake The word babe as applied to Sophia Loren does not fit. Goddess.
i love this scene. No sentimentality, no nothing - brutal finish.
en es epoca no habia perdon mataba o te mataban
@@sewpungyow5154 The melee fighting was a bit hammy, but still a good scene.
No modern epic screen ( like troy ) views or 1000 different montaz pictures for just one hit and about that hit one vularable moment and realistic quick kill, not screens on the faces of the one who about to die or the opponent or on the cats or flying crows , just pure realism and quick move (quick kill). As for the terrain place and set with view of castle the appearance of the musicians and uniforms general no words and in that time no CGI no even multiply the combars all they had to be dressed as the directors ordered no matter if the camera is close to them or not. Everything should look like the script medieval theme except the cameramen and the main creators. I remember when I had this film on video tape (once yupon a time..) It said that in the last battle were about 6000 people running in the coast of Valencia castle made. Even taras bulba of that age had not so Epic stuff !!!!
This was a great fight scene.
Better than fight scenes today with 100s of camera cuts per second.
HAhahaha! I usually hate the stupid, unrealistic, unbelieving hateful criticism of most against just believing in and enjoying Hollywood and the Art of Story realistically...But yes, 100s of camera cuts per second is definitely right for some fights, and the reason I have looked at more of the idea of exposing the fight better in preference to what tiredness we have now that feels incomplete at times. Nothing wrong inherently with cuts, they have been used before and are necessary for a fight. But even Star Wars and other films cut back the number of cuts compared to "fast, no-action" fight scenes people don't always notice in tv shows and the like, where they do not have an open broad film making strategy, but keep it tight and narrow, possibly for budget, partlyy for character focus and being a "drama" or soap operic in many ways, and just not showing much of the actual punches and cheap, repetitive action that is not inspireed, relying on the camera shaking and cutting to emphasize the cheap action. Emphasis of action is correct with the camera, but is also is a con and a filler for many things.
It was a different time. The real Rodrigo was even more noble than portrayed in this movie. He was truly, THE CID.
I love this movie......I especially love the scene when Rodrigo shames the prince who has murdered his brother. Today's movies dont even come close. Hollywood can no longer create believable epics. Instead the churn out loud comic books. Here we have a hero who has real dimension.....a real flesh and blood man.
Hollywood is now a sjw and unnecessary sequel and high budget for to make a mass maximizing profit domestic worldwide.
that scene name is Jura de Santa Gadea (St. Gadea's oath). It was a legend, it didnt happen at reality
@@AE-wf1jp line by CL on o 8
It’s funny tho hearing all these upper crust English accents coming from
The Europeans
@@GGT950
As Argentinean descendant from Castilians (Don Pedro Barrero, was knighted by the King of Asturias after the battle of Navas de Tolosa, my mother Neris name was an old Castilian one), I prefer aristocratic modern English to Atlantic (neutral?) English in Medieval movies. Hate Elizabethan, find laughable NY Brooklyn in period pieces.
At the same time, American movies Dubbed in Spanish Castilian, instead of Neutral (Latino) Castiluan sounds very strange in Hiapano-American ears.
Once in the late 1980s, in my University Sci-Fi Cinema Club in Buenos Aires, '2001: An Space Odyssey' was shown in Spanish instead of Neutral Castilian (as usual in Argie TV). Assistants are still laughing their asses off 30 years later.
Imagine HAL talking as a Spanish Grandee ...
They don’t make em like that anymore.
Actually, they do. They care about historical accuracy about as much today as they were then ^_^
its so colorful not grey or brown or bleak
@@LordO-thPalace , bright colors are OK. Check out here, for instance:
ruclips.net/video/mF1VFlCnLQ4/видео.html
The guy knows his stuff :^)
Thankfully they don't, I hate the over exaggerated dialog
So, how do we solve this problem?
I always found Rodrigo's armor and helmet so cool.
I was yelling dude throw sand in his eyes when he was down and was
This is one of the best knightly fight scenes ever filmed, in part because it is so brief. Real fights of that nature had to be. The combatants were wearing at least 40 pounds of armor and padding, they were closed up so no air got in and they were overheating like crazy, and at every second they were giving it literally all the strength they had. The adrenaline levels in a fight like that could reach near-toxic levels and just burned their strength like adding oxygen to a fire.
ruclips.net/video/qzTwBQniLSc/видео.html
Yet the records say they actually fought long and hard enough battles...Throughout the day in fact...That they even would wind themselves in that armor and come close to overheating. They would stop even to open up their visors and rest at times. But there is nothing to say the fighting "had to be" quick. Fights are not quick because you need them to be quick, they are quick because you make them quick. But the armor would also increse their standing and the length of battle by using logic since that it is what you invoked, not facts nor history. Don't make up an idea of practical realism vs Hollywood and the Art of Story. It will lead you astray as far as realism is concerned even in this world and Story.
@@mitchellslate1249 The more armor, the more painful would the cause of death eventually be. Usually by being penetrated in the few places the armor can't protect; armpits and groin. I'd prefer fighting without armor and have a less painful death.
The medieval clothes used in this film are way more accurate than in recent films. They were very colorful as depicted in El Cid, IDK why modern movies insist on using dark colors and studded leather. lol
Not to mention the horsemanship while wearing all that stuff! Imagine the decades of training and conditioning that went into being a knight. No equivalent now.
Damn Sophia Loren was incredible beautiful.
Ebefren Revo still is
Ebefren Revo yes she was!
GCSL
Yes she was, watch C'era una volta with Omar Sharif.
True words.
Viva España y viva la Hispanidad. Saludos desde Valencia. ORGULLOSO DE NUESTRA HISTORIA.
@Semper fidelis Semper Paratus si si, mira!! Un burro volando. Coge un cazamariposas y te lo llevas a casa. O si quieres te coges al burro. El segundo coger, en tu idioma. Vale?
Que un español diga viva la hispanidad esta muy bien
Que un latinoamericano lo diga, es una vergüenza
@@Bengael6 Valencia - Venezuela
Obra monumental del cine.Un clásico.
Historical consultant drank himself to death with money he got for this movie.
@themailman43
Excellent joke, sir.
@themailman43
No, thank you!
@@stanleyrogouski incestuous? catholic Spain? outrageous!
@themailman43 everything visual is bascially historically wrong in this movie. The movie is still a great piece of cinema, but the historical accuracy of it is totally null. The weapons are off by 5 centuries. This kind of jousting lances are at the very least a 14th century thing, the two handed montante are from the 16th century/Renaissance period. The kind of small heater shield they are using are a 14/15th century thing. The armor are completely wrong and resembles nothing historical but the closest era they would fit in is the 14th century with 15th century ideas in it. The heraldry is false as well: at this time Castille and León were two independant realms belonging to the same Jimena family, but it is wrong the show the quartered herald of Castilla y León realm, that suggests a union, that would only be the case after Alfonso of León inherits both titles. At the end of the 11th century, most things were built in wood still, stone castles were a very new thing, even in Castille. Knights would wear a gambeson and a hauberk of mail, and most likely a nasal conical helm, fighting with type X one handed arming swords and simple straight lances. Horses wouldn't have any barding whatsoever. And yeah, jousting 16th century style wasn't even a thing back then.
@themailman43 virtually nothing about this is historically accurate, and I'm speaking as a former archeologist. But it doesn't matter - this film is just superb.
100% woke free...no modern Hollywood trying to "change me." THIS is my type of film... I would wish Hollywood would go back to her golden years...but such wishes are for fools...for I know such a wish will NEVER AGAIN be granted!
Actually, it has a progressive message--Rodrigo is a uniter who sees past religious differences to the common defense and to a world where the fighting would end. He throws bread into Valencia, not catapulted fire and stones. What the progressives miss is that the world is also fundamentally brutal and you can't ignore the need for a strong, traditional defense (you know, the one involving masculine values and self-sacrifice that the progressives want to pretend is outdated). Strive whenever possible for the ideal but fight like hell when you have to.
CHarlton Heston was awesome in all his movies but this must have been among the most epic.
Heston was a master at playing these larger than life characters.
It is right up there next to Ben Hur in my book. Brilliant.
To my point of view one of his best movies has been"The Wreck of the Mary Deare" in which he performed very well together with old and sick Gary Cooper !
And it is
For God, the Cid and Spain!!
In honor of those who always had, firmness, loyalty, HONOR, bizarreness, credit, opinion, perseverance, HUMILITY, and Obedience, As their Creed and Flag, Long live Spain. 💝
Moises, Judah Ben Hur y tambien don Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar El mio Cid? Heston para mi es sin duda el mejor actor de la historia.
no te olvides de Indiana Jones y le Secreto de los Incas
There were SO MANY things to love about this film, but one of things I liked is the character development of Prince Alfonso ( played by John Fraser ). He started out as a spoiled arrogant boy, but by the end of the film he learned humility, loyalty, and maturity. He became a true man, and a true King.
Which is what makes the Cid's appraisal of Alfonso so moving : "I have not failed. Spain has a King".
What Makes a Great King? Exploring the Archetype of the King in Movies and Television ruclips.net/video/1pOnHjRK7BU/видео.html
The Structure of Your Inner Child (Masculine Archetypes Part 3) www.jamesmathison.co.uk/boy-to-man/
The King Within (Masculine Archetypes Part 4) medium.com/@jsmathison/the-king-within-masculine-archetypes-part-4-40863054d235
“The King archetype in its fullness possesses the qualities of order, of reasonably and rational patterning, of integration and integrity in the masculine psyche. It stabilizes chaotic emotion and out-of-control behaviors. It gives stability and centeredness. It brings calm. And in its “fertilizing” and centeredness, it mediates vitality, life-force, and joy. It brings maintenance and balance. It defends our own sense of inner order, our own integrity of being and purpose, our own central calmness about who we are, and our essential unassailability and certainty in our masculine identity. It looks upon the world with a firm but kindly eye. It sees others in all their weakness and in all their talent and worth. It honors them and promotes them. It guides them and nurtures them toward their own fullness of being. It is not envious, because it is secure, as the King, in its own worth. It rewards and encourages creativity in us and in others.…
“This is the energy that expresses itself through you when you are able to keep your cool when everybody else in the meeting is losing theirs. This is the voice of calm and reassurance, the encouraging word in a time of chaos and struggle. This is the clear decision, after careful deliberation, that cuts through the mess in the family, at work, in the nation, in the world. This is the energy that seeks peace and stability, orderly growth and nurturing for all people - and not only for all people but for the environment, the natural world. The King cares for the whole realm and is the steward of nature as well as of human society.”
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"Anyone can kill but just a king can give life" that's the best
@@NapoleonCalland : Yes, It was very moving.
@@dancingisraeli2376 : True. Too bad Prince Sancho got murdered.
@@PlanetBlake Mostly due to Urraca. Not clear what Alfonso's role was.
This was a wonderful film about a Man, who was head and shoulders above any general or knight in history.
Knight perhaps but general? That’s ignorant. He was at most a military commander. The greatest generals of all time were Julius Caesar, Hannibal Barca, Alex the great, Napoleon, scipio africanas: not in any particular order
Sofia Loren no esplendor da beleza! Conheci o túmulo de El Cid na Catedral de Burgos (Espanha), e esse castelo em Belmonte na Espanha, por conta do filme. Sempre fui fã.
Mi familia es de allí. El Cid es mi heroe 😂
Not exactly the most realistic or historically accurate tournament scene on film... still fun to watch Heston tear it up...
Heston was sadly underrated. I guess it's partially because he was so typecast. But when he got a role that allowed him to do some actual acting, he could be brilliant.
Yeah I agree. It was going so well, character wearing helmets, ringmails,shields...and suddenly zweihander appears...
Well, neither was Moses appearing before Pharaoh in 'The Ten Commandments' but it's still my traditional Easter movie :)
@@ajvanmarle Which role was that ? The man could not act if his life depended on it
@@excellNexcel Cardinal Richelieu in the Three Musketeers. The player king in Hamlet, Leiningen in The Naked Jungle. For that matter, he was actually quite good in The Big Country. Basically, he was good as long as he was cast against type. It's weird, but in his case, his typecasting was also miscasting.
You can quibble about the props, costumes, etc... all day long but they caught the no holds barred, sheer brutality of combat spot on.
Yep, it really reminds me of "Pee Wee's Big Adventure"...(ROFL)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pee-wee%27s_Big_Adventure
Yes especially the jousting, they mustve really reanacted it right? The way the horses charge one another and when Heston (or his stuntdouble most likely) brings the horse down with the saddle couldnt have been faked, at least not back then
Actually I love how the costumes and building look like new - which they would have been at the time, and not like they were excavated, as is common in modern "historical" movies
@@TrueFork the newness isn't the issue (I agree, films went way overboard on the grimy and groady Middle Ages schtick) but rather anachronistic weapons and armor all throughout this production.
Sixty moors disliked this
LOL !!! Incredible to me that anyone could dislike this scene, or this movie.
And you know, as someone who studied the Crusades and the Reconquista, the Moors in this movie were given pretty short shrift. I know it was pretty standard for Hollywood at the time, but it was pretty egregious even for then.
@@carlhicksjr8401 I thought the Crusades were initiated to protect the civilian travelers from being assaulted by the Moors. Hmm! D. Berte'
El Cid fought with muslims against christians. He had muslims in his troop, he was a mercenary in Spain. Study first.
@@deniscberte1638 The Crusades were originally preached in response to three causes: a] by the 1080's there was a common problem throughout all of Western Europe of too many 'second sons' surviving into adulthood; since only one son could inherit the land title and not all these rambunctious warriors were suitable for service in the Church, something had to be done with them. B] Byzantine emperor Alexios Komnenos had sent Pope Urban a letter asking for aid against the Seljuk Turks, who were a serious problem for Eastern Christendom; he filled the letter with stories of lots of hyperbole about murdered pilgrims etc.; He was hoping for a few thousand trained and equipped mercenaries, he did *not* want or expect a literal demographic movement of refugees and land-hungry conquerors. C] Lastly was the hellfire and brimstone nature of medieval religion; the Church promised redemption of all Earthly sins if someone 'took the Cross' and it is estimated that 50,000+ people did so... but only about 5000 or so were the trained warriors that Alexios wanted.
I loved this movie back in 1962 when I saw it in a theater when I was an 9 year old kid. I now have this movie in Blu-ray Disc and I still love it today. I love the pageantry and grandeur of those old epic films. 👍👏
OK, boomer :D
More believable? Movies back then completely eschewed realism and historical accuracy. This entire scene was laughable. Considering the weapons, armor and props, this tournament could only have occurred at least 300 years after El Cid's death. Thankfully, modern period movies pay more attention to detail and realism.
@@josea.3170 I'm not talking about those stupid comic book movies. I'm talking about period pieces. They're just far more realistic. Movies like Dances with wolves, Unforgiven, Cold Mountain, Master and Commander, the Revenant, Kingdom of heaven. They look like the era they're trying to depict. They transport you back into time. El Cid looks like a Renaissance festival. Moses looks like a Hollywood studio. One exception that I can think of is Lawrence of Arabia.
Yo también tenia esa edad cuando la vi. Luego he visto escenas del rodaje nada menos que a Rodríguez De La Fuente portando el azor y conversando con Heston y a Menéndez Pidal igualmente en coloquio, ambos hablaban ingles fluido.
Sophia Loren wow! Classic beauty. Oh yeah the film wasn't bad either 😉 lol
... and without CGI "touchups" to remove blemishes or Botox to change the lips.
Never knew you could do so much with a horse saddle. 😮
Charlton Heston was such a power house of a man, people like him, John Wayne, Kirk Douglas, Humphrey Bogart, Gregory Peck, Clark Gable, will never come along again.
don't forget Robert Mitchum a real tough guy in Cape Feat, he was scary as hell in that film.
@@cat-lw6kq MITCHUM WAS AND STILL IS A BAD ASS !
I Really can't see Bogie in a Sword Fight .... He would have just shot the Guy! .... Or talked him out of it!
@@jamesalexander5623 : LOL !
Elaine Teut : Yeah, the stars of that golden era of Hollywood will always be my favorites. I am not going to knock some of the more modern age stars. There are some very excellent actors/actresses/directors in the modern age too. But I just think the films and the stars of those golden days will always hold the most special place in many people's hearts. Even many of our modern era stars feels the same way. They have such a great respect for those who paved the way.
Why can’t this movie be released on ITunes digital? I’m sure a lot of people would love to have El Cid in their collection. The Warlord is another great movie to have.
The best joust scene in any movie ever. Charlton Heston was in his glory days.
Sophia Loren,, the face that could launch a million ships!!!
You have her mixed up with Helen of Troy.
Maybe the most beautiful woman who ever lived!
Beautiful, yes, but she doesn't have much to do here, and her expression scarcely changes. Genevieve Page acts rings around her. Sophia would come into her own with her next film "Two Women."
El Cid...the real El Cid was a just a preposterously amazing hero. Great movie.
God bless the crusaders 🏴🇬🇪✝️👌⚡⚡⛪🏴👌✝️🇬🇪
Amen.
Fuck that shit. Fighting wars for a made up god is lame and hurts the innocent. The combat scene is pretty cool though
Great story (ONE LARGELY FORGOTTON) Amazing movie, epic effort a true masterpiece
As a child growing up during this era it was fun to know that Hollywood would produce at least one epic action movie every year.
Magnificent Tournament scene from "El Cid".First rate action, acting,costumes,pagentry,cinematography,direction.script,music score.Everything a classic film should have, and seldom does in today's Hollywood.It's on my Top Ten List of the greatest adventure films of all time.
Достойный рыцарь...легенда! И хороший фильм.!
Great action sequence organised by the maestro Yakima Cannutt. Filmed at Belmonte Castle and well worth a visit as are the other locations of the film.
"Why would you risk your life?"
'Cos I reckon I can take him.
¡Ningún héroe como el Cid Campeador!
Say what you will about "historical accuracy" in most epic films; however, when it comes to filming "combat" be it" one-on -one to massive battle engagements;" "HOLLYWOOD" does one DAMN GOOD JOB of GETTING "THE PARTICULARS of REALISM" EXTREMELY WELL DONE/"DOWN PAT" or as the British would say; "SPOT -ON !"
That was epic. No CGI baby.And Sophia Loren in her prime.
Una de las mejores películas que hizo Samuel Broston y además asesorado por una eminencia estudioso del Cid, D.Ramon Menéndez Pidal 🇪🇦
The guy charlton heston is fighting has unreal stamina just attacks and attacks and attacks, then gets tossed hahah thats what happens when your not charlton heston
Charlton Heston...he had a sense of epic ness
"From my Cold Dead Hands!" --- Charlton Heston
"The one way to stop a bad guy with a two-handed broadsword, is a good guy with a two-handed broadsword."
From his cold, dead heart. Fuck Charlton Heston.
It will be interesting to see if he looted any money from the NRA.
@@bakedeel7778 CH was in the final stages of Alzheimer's by the time he joined the NRA. RIP, Big Chuck...
Back when Hollywood knew who Western Civilization's real enemy was--the Moors.
Exactly! Has been for 1400 years!
Actually nowadays the worst enemy of western civilization is western civilization itself, its lack of natural values.
@@AutoFirePad : Sadly that can be said of every nation/region on the globe though.
Now it's the liberals, the enemy from within
@@PlanetBlake Rusia, Turkey, Israel, etc... they still rely on natural moral values.
I saw this movie at the cinema, I was 6 years old. Imagine a child of my age seeing this on the big screen. It has to be seen on a cinema screen to truly appreciate it. I was open mouthed when the Moors charged Valencia. It gave birth to my love of wargaming. I know a lot of epic fans rate Ben Hur, but El Cid will always be one of my all time favorite films, without equal. I also saw Sophia Loren in the Millionairess on TV when I was old enough to appreciate she is the most beautiful women to walk the earth. (sigh)
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@@carlochiocca2706 Yes! Six. The film was released in 1961. I saw it in 1962, as films in those days took a while to reach cinemas, especially provincial ones.
También la vi en la infancia y comparto tus emociones, me fijaba en los ropajes lo Bien que le quedaba a las mujeres.
Thanks for sharing. This film is a very highly censored film by the Elitist Hollywood & the Mainstream Media regime. Was nice to see it here.
This film and Ivanhoe are still near the top of my favorites.
Ivanhoe was excellent
Spain so needed El CID to rid the Muslims from the west, God protected him.
Their are millions of muslims in spain excluding their descendants
¡Buen castellano hubiera sido Charlton Heston!
Wow. Film makers actually celebrated Western civilization back then. Interesting.
Found the racist.
Is celebrating the east bad somehow or...?
It will always be part of my trilogy. Charleston Heston the greatest actor I have ever seen.
Brilliant film El Cid 1961 the Costumes the acting and above all the music!🤗👍👑🎪⚔️🐎🐎🇪🇸
Historically woefully inaccurate and bordering on fantasy, but brilliant from a filmmaker's point of view. Really, really well made.
El Cid was bigger than fantasy. I imagine you would like a remake with the f word used in each line.
LOL!!
Kind of like 300 or Troy.
Not so. This movie counted with the advise of menendez pidal, one of the greatest medievalist and poligraphs of europe at his time, and probably the biggest expert ever on el cid. Taking aside some mistakes, the film reflects pretty well the nature of the character
But as the end points out, the Cid long since passed out of history into legend.
What a legacy. Memorable epics : 54 Secrets of the Incas , 56 The Ten Commandments, 59 Ben Hur , 61 El CID, 63 55 Days at Peking , 65 The Agony and Ecstasy, 66 Khartoum ,68 Planet of the Apes and Will Penny , 71 The Omega Man , and 73 Soylent Green.
You missed Touch of Evil.
On a big screen in the early 1960's this was totally thrilling and I recall everyone in the theater was totally rapt as the vicissitudes of the fighting developed. The entire movie remains in my memory as a great cinematic experience, I was in my early teens. The music, the sets, the fighting and of course, great actors, under proper direction and production, all combined to make a great movie. It is still there now, for all to see, perhaps soon on a screen in high res the size of one's living room wall. And then almost the full effect of the experience will be available to the people of the future, to see what we saw, experience what we experienced and thus to understand the subversion of the dull emotionless valueless conformity that they will be offered in the attempt to deprecate humanity.
It is a testament to the great Yakima Canutt. His greatest work, and perhaps the most exciting scene in all of movie history was the Chariot race in Ben Hur, This a close second. Chuck Heston was my favorite actor. He is associated with the great epics. But I think it star shined brightest in movies like Touch of Evil and Will Penny. In his latter years he said Touch of Evil was his favorite role. He was also a great stage actor.
So, I'm a historian. Used to be a member of a medieval reenactment group and did a lot of research on the Crusades era.
I LOVE this movie.
No, it is no way historically accurate. It has about as much relation to actual history as 'The 13th Warrior' [another 'it's wrong but gloriously wrong' movie I love].
And here's the thing: if anything, the career of Roderigo de'Bivar, el Cid, is *more* incredible and intrigue filled than the movie portrays it. And the Granadans [that is, the Muslims living in Spain since 750 or so] of the era considered him as much a hero as the Castillians and Aragonnese did. I whole-heartedly recommend you look him up.
Heston and Loren do such a wonderful job with one of the great romances of the Middle Ages, and Heston did many of his own stunts.
I know right, I have just watched this movie and they really don't make medieval movies this epic anymore. And yes I'm a Muslim but that doesn't matter, I love stories of knights and I love Charles Heston. I don't care how badly people want to blame everything on Muslims, my greatest passion have always been for the Medieval era. Wish hollywood could make medieval movies this epic today. Netflix just couldn't compare.
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 'Kingdom of Heaven' was pretty epic. I recommend the extended director's cut of the film... it does a much better job than the theater edit.
@@carlhicksjr8401 Yeah, I've watched the Extended Director's Cut too. It was great and far better than the Cinematic Release. A lot more explanation for what the hell is going on. Although funnily enough, when my late grandfather (bless his soul) saw the movie. he immediately thought it was just another western propaganda movie portraying the Muslims as the bad guys. He didn't even watch it, he just saw knights fighting against muslims and told me it was better not to watch such a move. Sometimes you just can't win with fear and paranoia.
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 If you're interested in another story that deals with the Crusades and portrays the Muslim side in a pretty even-handed fashion, I recommend a great Swedish TV series, 'Arn: the Knight Templar'. WONDERFUL stuff, especially since the actor who portrays Arn had never ridden a horse before he got this part. I recommend watching the uncut series, rather than the heavily-edited movie version.
@@carlhicksjr8401 Ooh, ok. I've never heard of this series before. I will check it out.
For God The CID and Spain!
Wow the quality of this film is amazing - dialog, costumes, acting - world class
Check out Waterloo
03:34. Everyone standing still waiting for the director to yell "action" and for the trumpets to start!
Every time I drove by Calahorra I remembered this scene and who funny they pronnunce the towns name in the movie.
10.26: The Black Knight says "It's only a scratch. I've had worse".
It's just a flesh wound.
10:26
May God give me...Sophia Loren!
In addition to watching Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar vanquish Martin Gomez for championship of Calahorra, now watch Judah Ben-Hur race his quadriga against Messala in the hippodrome @ ruclips.net/video/frE9rXnaHpE/видео.html
One of the best historical films of its day with some incredible awesome fight and battle scenes.
Rarely does one watch a whole youtube video. This is one of those you don't want to cut short.
ma vogliamo parlare per una volta della colonna sonora! una delle piu' belle in assoluto! si parla sempre di attori, scene, costumi ma la musica, quanto incide sulla riuscita di un film e questa incide davvero tantissimo!
Exactly the same thing happened to me.
"Defeat my champion in combat, Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar, and I will give you command of my army. Let the tournament begin."
Yes! I was hoping to see a AoE2 reference here!
"El Cid will fall to my blade!"
Am I the only person who finds Genevieve Page more attractive than Sophia Loren?
Yes!
Still one of my favourite films.
Beautiful movies. Amongst the best.
I really do miss these old epics.
Those were real metal weapons they were using, no special effects. Think about that when you see Charleton Heston using the saddle as a shield. One wrong swing and he would probably lose his arm.
Uh-uh. The blades had no sharp edges. He might have gotten a nasty bruise, but not much more. You do NOT put your film's STAR in preventable jeopardy!
Heston was in a LOT more danger in Ben Hur, when he got bounced out of his chariot during the race. Nearly lost his teeth!
@@mikegrossberg8624 Swords of that weight don't have to be sharp in order to do damage. I'm a police officer and i had to attend to a scene where a home owner (A man well into middle age) defended his wife, his home and himself against three home invaders with one of those cheap "samurai" swords. Even though that sword did not have any type of an edge on it. The damages it inflicted turned my stomach and iI've seen some graphic sights. One of the attackers had put up his arm to fend of a blow. It cut through his thick forearm breaking the bone. Now i don't know how much power the old home owner put into that swing. But i somehow doubt it was more than what the actor was using in this scene
@@michaelscott8567 Before I respond to your post, let me say this. My father was a New York City police officer for 32 years. One of my uncles was a lieutenant, and another was a sergeant. I, myself, served as a civilian clerk in a station house in Brooklyn for six years. Although I was never out on the street, I still got to see a little of what people can do to each other, as well. All of that said, I would never dispute your statement; I have no doubt what you describe happened. The only thing I WILL say is that, when making a film, every precaution is taken to minimize "damage" to the actors(insurance companies tend to be very INSISTANT about that!). That includes making weapons that LOOK real, but usually AREN'T. I doubt that the swords used in the scene under question were actually as heavy as they looked; likely the blades WEREN'T steel, but some lighter, possibly even non-metal, material. Film-making IS, after all, the art of illusion! In closing, thank you for your service to your community. I KNOW how hard that service can be
@@mikegrossberg8624That's true, but with the speed and power they were swinging, they could still do damage. In the one scene, Heston was holding the saddle straight out, not going low, not going high. The saddle had to be right there so the other actor could swing below it, on top of it or above it. The saddle was real and the sword was (dull) but real. There was still some risk there. They minimized it as best they could and still got a fantastic action shot.
Genevieve Page is so beautiful in this. Even more than Sophia Loren, and that's saying something.
It is saying something. But it all a personal viewpoint. Personally i think Sophia Loren is possibly the most beautiful woman who ever lived. Just my point of view.
Alfredo Jonstone I agree
@@Boric78 I agree also, that it is a matter of personal opinion. Sophia is unarguably one of the most gorgeous women ever to walk the earth, the sort fleets of ships are sent to pursue, but Genevieve just gets to me personally.
Nobody was more beautiful than Sophia Lauren. Thats literally impossible
Sophia Loren was a classic beauty for sure. But Geneviève Page was also very pretty. She definitely had that something special.
Still champ h2h battle scenes:
Bruce Lee battle w/ guards -
"Enter The Dragon"
Brad Pitt - Death of Hector - "TROY"
My Friend's Mom took us to see this at a Drive -in ..... Fantastic back in the Day!
If someone rode a horse into my livingroom.. I would probably ask him to ride it back out again!
Only probably?
It wasn't a living room
That's not a living room. It is a throne room.
The king does not sit there all day, only during the hour(s) that he has to hold audiences.
@Paul Fletcher Well trained horses. They didn't leave any.
The joust scene was very impressive!
Indeed! I had never realized the violence of joust charge!
I don't know anything about horses. How did Dom Rodrigo manage to get out unscathed after being trampled by Dom Martin's horse? I read in a specialized magazine that this clash with spears was choreographed by one of the best martial arts experts of the time.
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Una de mis peliculas favoritas desde hace55 anos no me canso de verla desde que la vi en el cine Capitol. Y mi actor favoritoChatlton Heston que tiempos aquellos .M L M P
Other than the ridiculous flexing of the broadsword's wow what a scene!!
The glory days of Hollywood, will we ever see their like again?
@themailman43 LOL. As if it ever was.
@themailman43 I meant, as if Hollywood was ever run by conservatives. It has always been a liberal bastion except in its infancy (e.g., Birth of a Nation, etc)
La primera vez que vi esta película era un niño de 8 o 9 nueve años, que la vio en un cine de verano, en la playa de uno de los pueblos de Valencia en la que muchas familias solían veranear. Desde luego, no pudo haber un entorno más adecuado. Saliendo del cine y aunque era de noche, quería ir corriendo a la playa a ver si podía ver cabalgar a Don Rodrigo por la costa, y a acabar con los almorávides 😄😄😄
The first time I saw this movie I was a 8 or 9 little boy, who saw it in a summer cinema, at the sea shore of one of the towns of the province of Valencia where lots of families were enjoying their summertime. It couldn't exist a more appropiate place to watch it. I left the cinema running to the beach, though it was closed night, willing to see Don Rodrigo riding his horse, and finish with all the almoravids swinging and imaginary sword....