This has to be one of the most important messages Pastor has preached. I've listened or watched pretty much all of them, but this one is so important and that is why I am watching it again, again, and again. I want this so ingrained in my spirit, if some one asks me about the tithe or the legal way God operates, I will be able to answer intelligently.
@@genarosalazar2818 Yes, but I'm referring to cheerfully giving, particularly when it allows you to help others in need. in that sense often it can grow into something else through those who you help. It may also be your time, or something you teach them as well.
Thank you Pastor Keesee for this message. Today Ihad a big debate with someone about Tithing. I couldnt remember the verse, so I came home and listened to this message. When I retired I knew I wouldnt have alot of money, so I made sure I was debt free. I tithe every month and gladly
This man is undoubtedly blessed with a brilliant teaching ministry.The Abrahamic precedent sets a great pattern for Christians today. Other faiths appear to be much more generous with continuous giving all year round. The tithe is a teaching that develops, and in Malachi it comes in a setting of God’s challenge to be fair,and to enjoy better personal relationships. The tithes at the end of the old testament are for the temple to help enhance worship and to assist the levites. The second temple was a plainer worship centre by far and had even greater need of support! One the famous tithing denominations in the United States is the Southern Baptist union,formerly a spiritual home to Jimmy Carter and his wife. Because tithing is part of their church membership,their missionaries are treated royally in the field and are well resourced, for the work of world Mission!
Don't know if you'll get this message...but thank you for your raw honesty...sharing from when you were where we are...and for the wisdom about the tithe.... I feel like giving God all my money and just say....God we need this and that,I trust you'll provide.Then I don't have to sort out anything 😅
Well said of tithes. I've always wondered why there was 2 trees in the garden of Eden? God gave dominion to Adam over the earth but He also knew the devil was lurken around. Adam like we all always have a choice. If Adam loved God so much He would've made the right choice. Jesus had to come to fullfill the law. He is GRACE. Yes, our tithes is a choice to Worship God! I love that. Thank you Pst!
Thank him for what? Lying to you? "The modern practice of church tithing is not supported by the teachings of scripture. Church tithing began in the late nineteenth century when a Wesleyan Church in Cincinnati hosted multiple fund-raising events to erase its enormous debt. Fledgling on the brink of bankruptcy and devoid of options, a layman came up with the idea of, “storehouse tithing.” It was an instant success and soon the news spread like wildfire throughout Christendom and the practice of storehouse tithing caught on. At the time, it seemed the answer to the debts and financial woes of churches whose church members gave indiscriminately." www.bibleanswerstand.org/QA_tithe.htm
You are right Mike. Everything that we possess and get from God comes by grace through the finished work of Christ and not by obeying rules or the OT laws.
Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly. The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
I enjoyed the teaching. However a STRONG CAUTION. Even in situations that seem exactly like what another person has described and what they heard The LORD GOD tell them, you should WAIT upon The LORD and ask Him His Answer for your particular situation. Automatically following others is what messed up many WORD of Faith people. It is The WILL of The LORD GOD that we have a Personal Relationship with Him and Know Him as Our ONLY Teacher - John 17, Matthew 23:8-10. Pastor Gary in one message mentioned Bill Johnson and I am personally aware that Bill Johnson's ministry went through a very challenging time and what you saw was that they ASSUMED many things to be true and did not seek The LORD GOD for what His WILL was in the particular situation BEFORE THEY PRAYED. One example was that they prayed for a young child to be raised from the dead because they ASSUMED based on the Scripture on raising people from the dead that it was OK. I asked one of their members if they asked The LORD what His Will for the child was and he was surprised. The child never came back to life. Some of their activities were clearly inviting demonic spirits. I personally watched a video where Bill's daughter in law claimed that the color of "The HOLY SPIRIT" was blue! As I was associated with pagan religions before I was Saved the only "BLUE SPIRIT" I knew was a demon the hindus worshiped. Not long after Bill's son was admitted to hospital with a nervous breakdown. A few years later Bill's wife passed away from a fatal disease.
About 6.05 into this message Gary, you say Satan wanted to take Jesus out. I know that you meant to say Adam but I want to present this to my Pastor and I don't want to hear any negative response from him. What can be done?
Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly. The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
@@andrecummings13God has a lot of first fruits. First fruits of ur time to Him. Ur tithe, Jesus was first fruits of the first holy man living on earth, the Manchild is the first fruit.
@@hw123 , that’s tradition of men when you say first fruits or tithes have your time. Scripture NEVER teaches that about time because you supposed to give God ALL ( 100%) your time not just a tenth of it!!! AGAIN YOU HAVE TO TURN FROM THE TRADITIONS OF ME YOUR STATEMENT FIRST STATEMENT. Now, do you understand with Jesus warned us by saying because of your traditions you make VOID the commandments of God ? Go back to Bible!!! I challenge you to do research on where did the requirement for tithing in the New Testament from? The Catholic Church brought that lie in to fund their army, which was crusaders, build their large cathedral buildings, to pay off the politicians and to fill their own filthy lucre pockets !!!! Did you know they first brought it in around the fourth century Christians rejected it and it wasn’t the seventh century that they made it mandatory and a law , in so much to heaven Christian locked up and even Christian that it was not a requirement and that the early church ( NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH ) always gave freewill offerings !!! That is one of the greatest lies brought into the church and even having a lot of Christians lockup or killed. did you know the only time recorded of Jesus beating people or screaming at people in anger is dealing with the tithe when he was turning over the tables in The Temple. If you understood about tithes you would understand why they were selling animals in the temple, and it became about money instead of the tithes itself. Provide me one scripture for the New Testament Church required to pay it ? I’m waiting and I know what scriptures you use because I did it before I came to the truth
Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly. The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
@@mreverybody1150 , For example, here’s 3 questions for you to answer ; show me in the Scriptures when it’s given to the New Testament church to give tithes in the form of money, also giving tithes every Sunday head where is it where the church became the storehouse ( because if tithes go to church as the store house, but yet they deposit the money in the bank in reality, then a pagan, heathen financial institution has become the store house then) ? If you cannot answer these then get back with me and I’ll explain what has become the first fruits of the new covenant..
Pretty crafty. Says it is by grace, but then lists a bunch of OT laws that you have to perform to make God work. This directly conflicts with Romans and Galatians. You don't get the spirit (or the things of the spirit) by 'working the laws'. You get the spirit and all his benefits (including financial restoration) by faith in Christ. You cannot blend OT law and faith in Christ. According to this Gary's teaching, Jesus didn't fulfill the law on your behalf. It's still left undone. You are not an inheritor of his riches by his grace. You are not an heir, and his grace is not sufficient. You have to work the system yourself. If you just keep the OT law, then God can work. Otherwise God is powerless. Jesus defeated death and hell, but didn't do anything to free us financially. He didn't come to help the poor or set financial captives free. Like Gary says, just take on more burdens, because you have to save yourself financially. Jesus didn't help you. He just let you drift out to sea on your own. And it's not done by the spirit, but by human means. Sounds like a very tricky anti-gospel, sadly.
Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly. The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
@@mryesnno4301 , Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly. The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
" The natural man can't discern the things of the Spirit of God" Gary Keesee is a man of God and the word says " touch not the anointed" so you better be careful on your judging. The Lord baptized me in The Holy Ghost over 40 years ago and my life was instantly changed. If you have not experienced it i would go to your prayer closet and seek it from the Lord and then you will see things in a whole new way. Your life will never be the same.
Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly. The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
@@timlindquist8818 , Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly. The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
Pretty crafty. Says it is by grace, but then lists a bunch of OT laws to support it...saying that you have to 'perform' to make God work. This directly conflicts with Romans and Galatians. You don't get the spirit (or the things of the spirit) by 'working the laws'. You get the spirit and all his benefits (including financial restoration) by faith in Christ. You cannot blend OT law and faith in Christ. According to this Gary's teaching, Jesus didn't fulfill the law on your behalf. It's still left undone. You are not an inheritor of his riches by his grace. You are not an heir, and his grace is not sufficient to cover you financially. You have to work the system yourself. If you just keep the OT law, then God can work. Otherwise God is powerless. Jesus defeated death and hell, but didn't do anything to free us financially. His death and resurrection wasn't enough to secure your financial means in this world. He didn't come to help the poor or set financial captives free. He didn't come to remove financial burdens off your back. You have to save yourself financially. Jesus didn't help you. He just let you drift out to sea on your own. And it's not done by the spirit, but by your human means. Sounds like a very tricky anti-gospel, sadly. Always beware anyone who preaches a 'Jesus...but' or 'grace...but' gospel. It is always a denial of the gospel. Believe what you will, but test and see if I am right or wrong for yourself.
Yep, these guys are super crafty just like their father, Satan. "The modern practice of church tithing is not supported by the teachings of scripture. Church tithing began in the late nineteenth century when a Wesleyan Church in Cincinnati hosted multiple fund-raising events to erase its enormous debt. Fledgling on the brink of bankruptcy and devoid of options, a layman came up with the idea of, “storehouse tithing.” It was an instant success and soon the news spread like wildfire throughout Christendom and the practice of storehouse tithing caught on. At the time, it seemed the answer to the debts and financial woes of churches whose church members gave indiscriminately." www.bibleanswerstand.org/QA_tithe.htm
Don't confuse salvation will the sowing and reaping. If you sow to the flesh you will really corruption. If I commit adultery I promise you a curse will come upon me. If I murder I promise you I will be in jail. All the faith in the world will not make rich in jail. Please balance sowing and reaping in this life vs the next. Which by the way we sow in this life to also reap I. The next
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This has to be one of the most important messages Pastor has preached. I've listened or watched pretty much all of them, but this one is so important and that is why I am watching it again, again, and again. I want this so ingrained in my spirit, if some one asks me about the tithe or the legal way God operates, I will be able to answer intelligently.
Indeed but in my experience, tithing must be paired with seeding.
The legal way God operates?
@@mreverybody1150the seed is the Word of God.
@@genarosalazar2818 Yes, but I'm referring to cheerfully giving, particularly when it allows you to help others in need. in that sense often it can grow into something else through those who you help. It may also be your time, or something you teach them as well.
Thank you Pastor Keesee for this message. Today Ihad a big debate with someone about Tithing. I couldnt remember the verse, so I came home and listened to this message. When I retired I knew I wouldnt have alot of money, so I made sure I was debt free. I tithe every month and gladly
Excellenty
This man is undoubtedly blessed with a
brilliant teaching ministry.The Abrahamic
precedent sets a great pattern for
Christians today.
Other faiths appear to be much more
generous with continuous giving all
year round.
The tithe is a teaching that develops,
and in Malachi it comes in a setting
of God’s challenge to be fair,and
to enjoy better personal
relationships.
The tithes at the end of the old
testament are for the temple
to help enhance worship
and to assist the levites.
The second temple was
a plainer worship centre
by far and had even
greater need of
support!
One the famous tithing denominations in
the United States is the Southern Baptist
union,formerly a spiritual home
to Jimmy Carter and his
wife.
Because tithing is part of their church
membership,their missionaries are
treated royally in the field
and are well resourced,
for the work of world
Mission!
God bless u for posting this, life changing
Don't know if you'll get this message...but thank you for your raw honesty...sharing from when you were where we are...and for the wisdom about the tithe....
I feel like giving God all my money and just say....God we need this and that,I trust you'll provide.Then I don't have to sort out anything 😅
God bless you Pastor Keesee
Thank you Pastor Gary keesee ❤
Well said of tithes. I've always wondered why there was 2 trees in the garden of Eden? God gave dominion to Adam over the earth but He also knew the devil was lurken around. Adam like we all always have a choice. If Adam loved God so much He would've made the right choice. Jesus had to come to fullfill the law. He is GRACE. Yes, our tithes is a choice to Worship God! I love that. Thank you Pst!
Hope to get more wisdom here to operate in Kingdom level. Thanks Pastor Gary.
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Thank him for what? Lying to you? "The modern practice of church tithing is not supported by the teachings of scripture. Church tithing began in the late nineteenth century when a Wesleyan Church in Cincinnati hosted multiple fund-raising events to erase its enormous debt. Fledgling on the brink of bankruptcy and devoid of options, a layman came up with the idea of, “storehouse tithing.” It was an instant success and soon the news spread like wildfire throughout Christendom and the practice of storehouse tithing caught on. At the time, it seemed the answer to the debts and financial woes of churches whose church members gave indiscriminately." www.bibleanswerstand.org/QA_tithe.htm
MORE AND MORE BLESSINGS TO YOU PASTOR GARY
You are right Mike. Everything that we possess and get from God comes by grace through the finished work of Christ and not by obeying rules or the OT laws.
Lovely message. Thank yoy
I started listening... I have been tithing since 2 yes 2. I have 24 hours like you. I have question....s.....l read Genesis 3 over over ...l read
Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly.
The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
Tithing is true and I am a living proof.
Amen
I enjoyed the teaching. However a STRONG CAUTION. Even in situations that seem exactly like what another person has described and what they heard The LORD GOD tell them, you should WAIT upon The LORD and ask Him His Answer for your particular situation. Automatically following others is what messed up many WORD of Faith people.
It is The WILL of The LORD GOD that we have a Personal Relationship with Him and Know Him as Our ONLY Teacher - John 17, Matthew 23:8-10.
Pastor Gary in one message mentioned Bill Johnson and I am personally aware that Bill Johnson's ministry went through a very challenging time and what you saw was that they ASSUMED many things to be true and did not seek The LORD GOD for what His WILL was in the particular situation BEFORE THEY PRAYED.
One example was that they prayed for a young child to be raised from the dead because they ASSUMED based on the Scripture on raising people from the dead that it was OK. I asked one of their members if they asked The LORD what His Will for the child was and he was surprised. The child never came back to life. Some of their activities were clearly inviting demonic spirits.
I personally watched a video where Bill's daughter in law claimed that the color of "The HOLY SPIRIT" was blue! As I was associated with pagan religions before I was Saved the only "BLUE SPIRIT" I knew was a demon the hindus worshiped. Not long after Bill's son was admitted to hospital with a nervous breakdown. A few years later Bill's wife passed away from a fatal disease.
He said in this sermon u must ask Holy Spirit . Deut 28 which he revers to: verse 1- u must listen and obey Gods voice.
Can you sew a seed without paying tithes ??
He explains u tithe because u want God to legally bless ur harvest, what u sow
About 6.05 into this message Gary, you say Satan wanted to take Jesus out. I know that you meant to say Adam but I want to present this to my Pastor and I don't want to hear any negative response from him. What can be done?
Just send it the Holy Spirit will do the rest..
Strong message - although presented in such a patronizing way, a lot goes missing... what a pity.
I enjoy tithing. It's not my money anyways.
😊
Melkezidek cannot be Jesus because Jesus has genealogy
Dude just later said Jesus is in heaven and is our priest and he has a different genealogy
Are you serving a limited God?
Before Abraham was, I AM! - John 8:58
Melchizedek was not Jesus, Kat Kerr saw him in heaven, and she said he is not Jesus. Plus Jesus is not God's High Priest, He is our High Priest.
Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly.
The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
@@andrecummings13God has a lot of first fruits. First fruits of ur time to Him. Ur tithe, Jesus was first fruits of the first holy man living on earth, the Manchild is the first fruit.
@@hw123 , that’s tradition of men when you say first fruits or tithes have your time. Scripture NEVER teaches that about time because you supposed to give God ALL ( 100%) your time not just a tenth of it!!! AGAIN YOU HAVE TO TURN FROM THE TRADITIONS OF ME YOUR STATEMENT FIRST STATEMENT. Now, do you understand with Jesus warned us by saying because of your traditions you make VOID the commandments of God ? Go back to Bible!!! I challenge you to do research on where did the requirement for tithing in the New Testament from? The Catholic Church brought that lie in to fund their army, which was crusaders, build their large cathedral buildings, to pay off the politicians and to fill their own filthy lucre pockets !!!! Did you know they first brought it in around the fourth century Christians rejected it and it wasn’t the seventh century that they made it mandatory and a law , in so much to heaven Christian locked up and even Christian that it was not a requirement and that the early church ( NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH ) always gave freewill offerings !!! That is one of the greatest lies brought into the church and even having a lot of Christians lockup or killed. did you know the only time recorded of Jesus beating people or screaming at people in anger is dealing with the tithe when he was turning over the tables in The Temple. If you understood about tithes you would understand why they were selling animals in the temple, and it became about money instead of the tithes itself. Provide me one scripture for the New Testament Church required to pay it ? I’m waiting and I know what scriptures you use because I did it before I came to the truth
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Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly.
The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
Why do you say that tithing is a lie? in what way?
@@mreverybody1150 , For example, here’s 3 questions for you to answer ; show me in the Scriptures when it’s given to the New Testament church to give tithes in the form of money, also giving tithes every Sunday head where is it where the church became the storehouse ( because if tithes go to church as the store house, but yet they deposit the money in the bank in reality, then a pagan, heathen financial institution has become the store house then) ? If you cannot answer these then get back with me and I’ll explain what has become the first fruits of the new covenant..
Pretty crafty. Says it is by grace, but then lists a bunch of OT laws that you have to perform to make God work. This directly conflicts with Romans and Galatians.
You don't get the spirit (or the things of the spirit) by 'working the laws'. You get the spirit and all his benefits (including financial restoration) by faith in Christ.
You cannot blend OT law and faith in Christ. According to this Gary's teaching, Jesus didn't fulfill the law on your behalf. It's still left undone. You are not an inheritor of his riches by his grace. You are not an heir, and his grace is not sufficient. You have to work the system yourself. If you just keep the OT law, then God can work. Otherwise God is powerless. Jesus defeated death and hell, but didn't do anything to free us financially. He didn't come to help the poor or set financial captives free. Like Gary says, just take on more burdens, because you have to save yourself financially. Jesus didn't help you. He just let you drift out to sea on your own. And it's not done by the spirit, but by human means.
Sounds like a very tricky anti-gospel, sadly.
con man bs
Why did you say that Gary Keesee is a con man?
Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly.
The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
@@mryesnno4301 , Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly.
The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
This guy is full of crap. Listen to Dave Ramsey if you need help with your finances.
Maybe u should listen to Dave Ramsey. Dave says to pay your tithes even while ur working on paying off debt.
" The natural man can't discern the things of the Spirit of God" Gary Keesee is a man of God and the word says " touch not the anointed" so you better be careful on your judging. The Lord baptized me in The Holy Ghost over 40 years ago and my life was instantly changed. If you have not experienced it i would go to your prayer closet and seek it from the Lord and then you will see things in a whole new way. Your life will never be the same.
@@timlindquist8818 This is prosperity gospel.
Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly.
The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
@@timlindquist8818 , Tithing is a lie!!! Read Should the church teach tithing ? or go online; Russell, Earl Kelly.
The Saints have BECAME ( not pay) The First Fruits under NEW Covenant : Revelation 14:4 & James 1:18 & 1 corinthians 16:15 and etc….
Pretty crafty. Says it is by grace, but then lists a bunch of OT laws to support it...saying that you have to 'perform' to make God work. This directly conflicts with Romans and Galatians.
You don't get the spirit (or the things of the spirit) by 'working the laws'. You get the spirit and all his benefits (including financial restoration) by faith in Christ.
You cannot blend OT law and faith in Christ.
According to this Gary's teaching, Jesus didn't fulfill the law on your behalf. It's still left undone. You are not an inheritor of his riches by his grace. You are not an heir, and his grace is not sufficient to cover you financially. You have to work the system yourself. If you just keep the OT law, then God can work. Otherwise God is powerless. Jesus defeated death and hell, but didn't do anything to free us financially. His death and resurrection wasn't enough to secure your financial means in this world. He didn't come to help the poor or set financial captives free. He didn't come to remove financial burdens off your back. You have to save yourself financially. Jesus didn't help you. He just let you drift out to sea on your own. And it's not done by the spirit, but by your human means.
Sounds like a very tricky anti-gospel, sadly. Always beware anyone who preaches a 'Jesus...but' or 'grace...but' gospel. It is always a denial of the gospel.
Believe what you will, but test and see if I am right or wrong for yourself.
Mike S you are wrong Jesus is the full fillment of the law! The tithe works
Bossmanjr7 Say that!
Quick thought if I run around committing adultery will this lead to blessings or curses? Death or life?
Yep, these guys are super crafty just like their father, Satan. "The modern practice of church tithing is not supported by the teachings of scripture. Church tithing began in the late nineteenth century when a Wesleyan Church in Cincinnati hosted multiple fund-raising events to erase its enormous debt. Fledgling on the brink of bankruptcy and devoid of options, a layman came up with the idea of, “storehouse tithing.” It was an instant success and soon the news spread like wildfire throughout Christendom and the practice of storehouse tithing caught on. At the time, it seemed the answer to the debts and financial woes of churches whose church members gave indiscriminately." www.bibleanswerstand.org/QA_tithe.htm
Don't confuse salvation will the sowing and reaping. If you sow to the flesh you will really corruption. If I commit adultery I promise you a curse will come upon me. If I murder I promise you I will be in jail. All the faith in the world will not make rich in jail. Please balance sowing and reaping in this life vs the next. Which by the way we sow in this life to also reap I. The next