He said retroactive takebacks as in you cant change what you are doing based on what your opponent does. He probably allows a takeback of like”oh i misplayed that combo”
Yeah I would've let him redo any mishap in his combo, however I don't do takebacks when you already have seen cards in my hand/lines of play that you should have no knowledge of
@@troyhenstock914 If the play makes sense though in that something is probably going to happen, it's fine for a take-back. Diagram pop baby clearly gonna lead to Lithosagym
@@enriquenunez4691 imagine you payed 600€+ for a skill crutch to win at locals and stomp rouge decks only now to get shit on by dinos who have king back.To take it even more these people were dumb enough to buy into tier 0 meta. Serves them right.
@@unbeatable750 iam not salty, and i dint loose to them since i didn't play this format, since of the barrier to enter it is 500€-600€ o rather spend that one a series x then some paper
I think tears are going to become more engine cards for decks with grave effects than being actual deck at its own. Decks like PK or lunalight or lightsworm they still would welcome tears to be part of them especially after tear Kashtira comes out
When I asked can I chain to petite and he goes "huh?" that's basic a cheeky response to saying "I'm not letting you go back, I'm going to shark you." At that point, I decided I was going to leave the game and fully resolved my mills before leaving. The gamestate and testing environment was ruined. Since it isn't ranked and format was 10 mins old, don't bother arguing. Just leave 😃😃.
Man I didn't even catch the straight up cheat in game 2, also db grinder I allow takebacks if it's just a combo line turn 1, not when the game state has already progressed with cards that should not be public knowledge. Regardless, it made no difference and my opponent is a goober thinking he could make winda with no shaddols lol.
while not likely to be seen much, floo can search out the water barrier statue via small world and robina. robina and empen match being winged beast empen and water statue match via 1000 defense points.
Spright Elf is banned, Haufnis and Meiiru are at 1, Toadin is banned. You know who that really hurts? Paleos. Edit : Either I forgot Toad is not used to call RoninToadin, either I play too much Master Duel.
You don't get take backs in an actual tournament why would you get takebacks in play testing. That's the whole idea of play testing learning where mistakes and deck changes come from. I wouldn't have allowed a takeback. Either scoop or go on and develop different play lines
It's so you can go through the motions and learn how to play correctly so you don't make the same mistake again. It's testing, you don't improve as a player hoping your opponent plays bad. They get better, you get better. It benefits both players to see what went wrong and what other lines should be taken.
@d7h7n most times, you don't improve if you're allowed takebacks. You learn from mistakes and move on. I get and understand your reasoning behind take backs, but from previous interactions, allowing take backs normally don't help. And if you allow a take back, then you need your opponent to give you a take back which would be a gentleman's agreement, and they don't then you just screwed yourself especially if you're testing under "rated" on DB. You don't get take backs on edopro or nexus. But that's also why most of these online testing sites are giving us the option to watch our replays to learn our mistakes.
@@InfernitBlu88 Tests are done between two consenting players who want to test their deck. They want to get used to it, understand and discover combos and plays that their deck is capable of. There is no loss of rating since these matches are done in the unrated pool. Tests are a purely simulated environment just against a real opponent. There's no need for a gentleman's agreement to reciprocate take backs since it's intrinsically a part of tests. Then after the tests, you start playing real matches going in with a lot more knowledge about your deck. If you make mistakes in real matches, that's when there's no take backs allowed and you have to learn from your mistakes.
@Zaid Abu Saleem I USED to see people "Testing" on rated. So I guess that's where the confusion is but like I said I understand your reasoning but I also have my reasoning and philosophy on take backs.
I mean I guess they can still play without kit but it’s so hard . That mill 5 was the big problem. It starts with mill 5 and next thing you know you milling 15 lol
Iam happy for the hits (even though kashtira will just take tears place), but almost no banned -> limited is just boring af. Out of Ocg, tcg, MD, Tcg has the worst list for me
Tear player is beyond dumb. My homie plays dinos and my zombies win every time. He cant use any dino related effects when zombie world is up. Double evolution pill, misc, baby etc. None work. Literally hard loses to 1 card. He had the answer both times and fumbled the bag
at least 1 more New format match coming today too : )
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Is tear still good?
how can i submit replay sir?
Based
Hey db grinder can you make a dragon link deck profile for post banlist
He said retroactive takebacks as in you cant change what you are doing based on what your opponent does. He probably allows a takeback of like”oh i misplayed that combo”
Yeah I would've let him redo any mishap in his combo, however I don't do takebacks when you already have seen cards in my hand/lines of play that you should have no knowledge of
ohhhhhhhh fair enough
@@troyhenstock914 If the play makes sense though in that something is probably going to happen, it's fine for a take-back. Diagram pop baby clearly gonna lead to Lithosagym
This tear player is a 10/10 on the bozometer
So good to see them squirm. 🥲
@@enriquenunez4691 imagine you payed 600€+ for a skill crutch to win at locals and stomp rouge decks only now to get shit on by dinos who have king back.To take it even more these people were dumb enough to buy into tier 0 meta. Serves them right.
@@nsreturn1365 yall sound real salty you lost to tear rot the past 4 months lmaoo
@@unbeatable750 iam not salty, and i dint loose to them since i didn't play this format, since of the barrier to enter it is 500€-600€ o rather spend that one a series x then some paper
@@nsreturn1365 ahh I got it, you're just salty you didn't play last format and have no clue what you're talking about. "Skill crutch" lmaoooo
I think tears are going to become more engine cards for decks with grave effects than being actual deck at its own. Decks like PK or lunalight or lightsworm they still would welcome tears to be part of them especially after tear Kashtira comes out
If your opponent summons winda, you can use pill to summon conductor, flip it face down, and continue with your play
Yes that would be the proper play to make but he was concerned it the correct way to play he only wanted to win, not test.
@@DMCEagles05 if i wanted to win, i would not be playing dinosaurs you absolute bozo, and you lost regardless of when the kash was activated LMAO
Quick with it 🎉
“I woulda dropped a winda on you” - Sure bud, everyone talks when their up… and he wasn’t even up 😂
He played the first Time Tear when the Bannedlist hit this deck so Hard ?
I wonder if tearlaments grief will see more play now that we have less ways to access names
Yeah all their spells/traps became far more relevant.
We'll likely see more foolish burial goods to send sulliek. Potentially 3 scream. Grief.
When I asked can I chain to petite and he goes "huh?" that's basic a cheeky response to saying "I'm not letting you go back, I'm going to shark you." At that point, I decided I was going to leave the game and fully resolved my mills before leaving. The gamestate and testing environment was ruined. Since it isn't ranked and format was 10 mins old, don't bother arguing. Just leave 😃😃.
Yeah, why tf are you gonna shark like that on testing, the hole purpose of it is to check the best outcome of the deck If played properly
Dinos 🤟🏾🦖
Dinos 🤟🏿🦕
@The Greedy Holland we makin a comeback slowly new cards insane
@@daberry9159 who’ve thought after a meteor of a banlist that Dino’s would be on top 🦖
@The Greedy Holland we gotta see how far we are . But we aint Rouge I'll tell u that
THERE HE IS haha
Damn Tear players forgot how to use ash lol
Man I didn't even catch the straight up cheat in game 2, also db grinder I allow takebacks if it's just a combo line turn 1, not when the game state has already progressed with cards that should not be public knowledge. Regardless, it made no difference and my opponent is a goober thinking he could make winda with no shaddols lol.
Cute. You ran to daddy with this test replay. I'm glad I gave your life some meaning...
@@DMCEagles05 I didn't send the replay lol
@@DMCEagles05 stay mad and bad
ye i didnt understand what you meant exactly in the video but you for sure in the right (also that dump rhino for no reason was CRAZY LMAOOOOOO)
Holy crap that tear player did not know what he was doing AT ALL
Good shit. New format is what we want
3:25 somebody could explain how Reinohearth was sent to the graveyard?
chet im pretty sure, unless someone can destroy my ignorance
Yeah idk why you'd play more than 40 new list as you have tons more space.
60 card tear is kinda crazy ngl. Probably not worth it post hits though.
@@shawnjaverylol have you seen the hits? No way you’re playing 60 tear even before the banlist
"People can uphold laws themselves, they dont need policing"
Toxic boys up 😎
I agree and disagree with the take backs, like yea where testing but that’s what after game play is for. Sometimes you need to test against sharks
Note to self: add Diviner to deck
Oh I expected the normal names so well test account exposing video tomorrow
It's been a few hours since the list dropped, surely you have a dragon link replay?
coming in like 8 hours : )
@@TheDBGrinder happiness :) #pittman
He thought Winda was Orton, but really it was Cena. 😂
Dino Dna 🔥 dino supremacy 💯
this means masterduel will have Tear soon so this format still vaild until feb 13th
Didnt know there was a Salty Monday
Triple Toxic Tues- Monday
Living up to his name lmfao
1:49 if they played the scrap engine this would have been way better
Yooo I thought Destrudo was Shaddoll Dragon.
Hahahahaha that's on me. I kept mixing them all game.
L
while not likely to be seen much, floo can search out the water barrier statue via small world and robina. robina and empen match being winged beast empen and water statue match via 1000 defense points.
yeah that wont see ANY play
Nah it’s the “sauce” trust
With tear been hit i think drytron will be played. Also with statue been hit what flunder can do?
With kash running wild, I'd reconsider. But given how easy it is to break Kash boards, maybe you're on to something
Abuse broken 4ss shifter, floo still strong
Nah bysstials ruin it hard. If they hit you you are a goner
Winda out of nowhere
Spright Elf is banned, Haufnis and Meiiru are at 1, Toadin is banned. You know who that really hurts? Paleos.
Edit : Either I forgot Toad is not used to call RoninToadin, either I play too much Master Duel.
Toads not banned
but toad isnt banned o _ 0
Toad is not banned lmao unless you mean ronintoadin
@@chasebender7473 I meant Toadin lul
Dnasty is donnell washington he has topped a ycs top 4
still a bot no cap
"woulda" he would have summoned winda if he milled the cards for it
they shoulda said "coulda" instead of "woulda"
On point
New banlist, so is JJ8 going to be unbanned too?
Oh god no
They all just too quick with it
Guys he’s testing…..you obviously don’t know how that works
tear is still very playable... why isnt he playing king of the swamp?
Lithogasm 💀
I think the banlist will balance the format at least a bit
my tri spright line is over cause of elf yippi
You don't get take backs in an actual tournament why would you get takebacks in play testing. That's the whole idea of play testing learning where mistakes and deck changes come from. I wouldn't have allowed a takeback. Either scoop or go on and develop different play lines
It's so you can go through the motions and learn how to play correctly so you don't make the same mistake again. It's testing, you don't improve as a player hoping your opponent plays bad. They get better, you get better. It benefits both players to see what went wrong and what other lines should be taken.
@@d7h7n Couldn't have said it better.
@d7h7n most times, you don't improve if you're allowed takebacks. You learn from mistakes and move on. I get and understand your reasoning behind take backs, but from previous interactions, allowing take backs normally don't help. And if you allow a take back, then you need your opponent to give you a take back which would be a gentleman's agreement, and they don't then you just screwed yourself especially if you're testing under "rated" on DB. You don't get take backs on edopro or nexus. But that's also why most of these online testing sites are giving us the option to watch our replays to learn our mistakes.
@@InfernitBlu88 Tests are done between two consenting players who want to test their deck. They want to get used to it, understand and discover combos and plays that their deck is capable of. There is no loss of rating since these matches are done in the unrated pool. Tests are a purely simulated environment just against a real opponent. There's no need for a gentleman's agreement to reciprocate take backs since it's intrinsically a part of tests. Then after the tests, you start playing real matches going in with a lot more knowledge about your deck. If you make mistakes in real matches, that's when there's no take backs allowed and you have to learn from your mistakes.
@Zaid Abu Saleem I USED to see people "Testing" on rated. So I guess that's where the confusion is but like I said I understand your reasoning but I also have my reasoning and philosophy on take backs.
this is perfect, dinos deserve triple litho
I think the zombie world slows dinos pretty good
Thank you!!! Dino's hard lose to zombie world every time. Dude is a straight BOZO!
@@xXxPakman97xXx yeah why wouldnt he activate it.. lol
I won't shed a TEAR over this ban list😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Bwahahaha
ayo yugioh been so toxic recently 😂😂😂😂😂
Rank 4 Dino negate is better than dweller imo
plays around ttt
@@TheDBGrinder ye. I’m just waiting for true Draco to make a comeback 😭😭
Pop da baby
Okay but how pretty is troy
You pronouncing Lithosagym as "Litho-Gaysm" just dont feel right it is "Litho-Sa-Gum".
LOOOOL
Some people has to be npc, its gettin worse every day
Let go lol
They gave tear a worse treatment than zoodiac lol
nah zoo DIED after its big hit
Tbf zoo did have a year or so reign so let’s wait and see if tear can manage to tread water after this banlist. Hah… tear treading water.
I mean I guess they can still play without kit but it’s so hard . That mill 5 was the big problem. It starts with mill 5 and next thing you know you milling 15 lol
Iam happy for the hits (even though kashtira will just take tears place), but almost no banned -> limited is just boring af. Out of Ocg, tcg, MD, Tcg has the worst list for me
I’m soooo excit for tear to die
This tear deck and the way they played it was just bad and confused my mental testing in all the wrong ways
“Woulda coulda shoulda” blah blah lol.
Tear player is beyond dumb. My homie plays dinos and my zombies win every time. He cant use any dino related effects when zombie world is up. Double evolution pill, misc, baby etc. None work. Literally hard loses to 1 card. He had the answer both times and fumbled the bag
I mean TBF Double Evo can banish from hand if you have a non dino but yeah you're right.
Big copium
1st one at last!
This new banlist has interests but it still sucks. Banning wind statue was worse ban ever.
It was the best card to be banned ..
flunder needed hit , also kashtira could use statue
flunder needed to die
Wind statue Kash was actually just the best variant
Darytron in the meta now?
YO FIRST
Just accept it TEARLAMENTS is DEAD!! 🥲🥹 our water waifus..