On Cleveland’s near West side there was a little hole in the wall restaurant called The Hotdog Inn. Their Lyons Brand “signature” coney dogs were steamed to perfection, placed on a soft bun with chili and onions. The neighborhood was a little dicey to say the least, but these coney dogs were so tasty I risked my life countless times to patronize this place.
I miss the hot dog inn and Steve's the neighborhood is up and coming now pretty soon its going to be all hipsters lol but you are right that part of lorain Ave is sketchy
I’m sorry to hear that the hotdog inn is no longer there, but I’m happy to hear that neighborhood is “up and coming”. In the late 70s I was living in Lakewood on Crawford Avenue and worked in Cleveland. I stopped at the inn to get a couple hotdogs quite often since I couldn’t cook to save my life. Ah those were the days! Take care!
This all brings a tear to my eye. I miss when I was a young up-and-comer and my grandpa would bring me up to Cleveland for the day. We would go catch a game (when you could walk up to the box office and buy tickets on the day of the game), go get hot dogs, and visit all there was to see in Cleveland. Since he worked up there he was familiar with all of the deeper creases and all of the hole-in-the-wall restaurants that were "must-visits" when we would go up there. Growing up nearby it was THE big city, my own private Metropolis, and hearing about so many of these restaurants no longer being there is saddening to say the least. *EDIT* I left my comment using speech-to-text and there were a few spelling and grammar errors that irked me. I had to fix them.
Chef John, I just love your videos and sense of humor! The food is always delicious, and the honesty and humor helps it seem very accessible to us non-chefs. Thanks.
I have an ongoing argument with a 6 yr old. I told him he should never put ketchup on a hot dog, only mustard and he argues otherwise. He’s now 7 and I still haven’t gotten it across. But I’m still trying. 😄
Chef John, I feel this is almost blasphemous to correct you. The Detroit coney is served on a natural casing dog, mostly grilled, not boiled. That is done by people south of us who shall not be named. And I like your Chilli, the authentic sauce is done with beef hearts, which break down to nothing, giving that strange, incredibly smooth texture that leaves you wondering 🤔. But the natural casing dog is a must. Please continue...
C.O.s, thanks again for the great compilation video! It's always a treat to spot a video I've missed and is totally new to me, or another that I meant to try but never got around to it, or one that I've made, loved, forgotten and am now anxious to make again. Appreciate all you do. Question, how come Chef John videos (including these from you) never get mentioned for Webby Awards? 4.2+m subscribers can't be wrong. 🙂 Thanks again.
Hey Mme. I normally don't get the chats until after they are recorded, but i always got a big laugh when Chef used to call you ummm Magoo. I thought he was just pulling your leg (as he is likely to do). Somewhere along the timeline, someone must have told him that mme meant madame. I just could not believe that a "chef", whose wife is named Michele, didn't know French. Did you finally break down and tell him? Or did he admit to kidding you all along?
@@tawpgk Hi, didn't see this until today, sorry. Paul finally told him what the Mme stood for. 😉 A couple weeks later I confessed I wasn't even French (not much anyway) and its a nickname from childhood. Hope you can make a chat sometime...as you can tell, its a hoot.
I'm from the Detroit area originally and Coney Island restaurants are everywhere. At one point I lived in NYC for 4 years and thought is was funny Coney Island restaurants were nowhere to be found!
The only thing I disagree with is saying that the coney sauce didn't look beautiful - it was gorgeous! Lafayette Coney > American Coney... but only by a smidge.
@@lisapop5219 Yes, native. Lafayette and American ARE neighborhood coneys... they aren't chains like Leo's or National. Now in MY opinion, Joe's Coney Island in Houghton Lake has the best coney - I have driven 90 minutes out of my way to stop there on more than a few occasions...
My mom sweet-talked a Coney Island owner out of his secret. I don't claim to believe it's universal, but he used finely ground beef heart in his sauce. I have never had plain beef heart and would have denied it if asked, but after my mom tried it on her own, it was identical to his sauce and oh, so delicious! I had been eating it for years and never knew.
I’ve been enjoying your content and for the first time I suggest you never make a coney dog again!! LOL you made us Detroit people look like bad food consumers
Those split top buns are a GODSEND to me. I live in Alaska now and miss the split top buns I ate growing up in New England. They would also make perfect buns for Maine Lob-stah rolls or where I am now in Alaska, King Crab rolls. Thank you so much for this recipe!!!!
For Me fry a smoked hot dog Weiner with a thick slice of bread topped with a slice of processed cheese Covered so the cheese melts Assemble with a slice of pickle
I do the Italian sausage, but I use red wine instead of water. It is the bomb for spaghetti. (And a real Grinder) ;-) Totally going to try the spiral cut sausage dogs for my next cookout.
In Chicago there was a greek, tommy c, who owned red hots. Now...Greeks would pickle green tomatoes, banana peppers stuffed with cabbage and carrot. They put those on the hot dog. They were wonderful. And of course, he used Vienna hot dogs.
I dont know how to make fancy sausages and hotdogs, but I have a tip for fixings some people may like to try if you like to try new things. Its Mexican style hotog toppings: Sour Cream, small dice tomatoes, chopped onion, dice canned jalapeños lil sprinkle of salt.
Love all your recipes, your the only one I love on YT !!!! CHEF , I surch everywhere to find a corn bread that rise HIGH !!! I have tried so much recipes and never satisfied !!! By the way , I don't like corn in the cake 😁 thank you chef !
My small criticism re: "steamed hot dog bun." I've been putting mine into my crock pot steamer on a raised grid for a minute or so. They come out warmed, soft, I'll even go ahead and add mustard and cheese to the bun for the sake of melting in in just a bit prior to adding the hot hotdog and chili.
I really love this one and will keep it and save it I probably won't make the hot dog buns or the sausage but I enjoyed seeing how it was done. The other ones will probably come up on some of our holiday tables over this summer as just something different. Totally enjoyed this one
Great recipes Chef John also I love the way you go step by step and make it easy to make these recipes at home I have a question on the recipe with the substitute hot dogs. LOL..Can I wrap prosciutto around it instead of bacon?
Probably. But bacon is better. I like to wrap my dogs in bologna. My wife likes to spread peanut butter on sausages before she puts it in her mouth. I think it is strange. But I let her get away with it. As long as she wants to keep me happy, I am OK with it.
Chef John, I am struck thinking, is it possible that an upstate dude has not hit Texas Hots in Wellsville? I arrived there watching the coney dog portion. I'm sure the uninitiated would think these very similar but recommend when you are back home check it out as a beautiful drive and you will be in the know.
You showed the Detroit style Coney. But where is the love for the superior Flint style? (- For those who don't know, it's like the difference between a sloppy joe and a Maid-Rite loosemeat -)
@@SentoB no, I came up with it myself. they were good, but it's an awful lot of work, and teenagers in the house barely BREATHED long enough to shove them in their stomachs, let a lone TASTE them. almost a waste of applewood smoked bacon...
You did not mention beef heart - that's a gotta have for the meat sauce. Yeah and the dog must be a koegel - or something similar with a casing that snaps. But you're the Tony Marony of your homemade Coney
Chef John, I’ve been eating side split hotdog buns like a savage all my life, lol...it’s about time I try a top split bun and join the civilized world, thank you. Cheers! 🇨🇦
I like haram and treif salt. If you're going to use bacon the salt is no longer kosher, even if you get a rabbi to say oooga boooga words over it again.
I am sure that someone else must have mentioned it below, but the Coney Island chili in Detroit has the texture it has because they use ground beef heart for a portion of the meat. It adds a chewy texture. And the hot dogs are cooked on a flat top, not boiled. You need a dog with a natural casing to give it snap. Usually Vienna Sausage hot dogs.
@corporateoverlords, where were the dates on the recipes? Also, how does one choose between all the various dogs and sausages chef has made? Also, kudos for including a bun recipe as well. Always appreciated.
My father used to spiral cut smoked sausage like that, only he didn't par-boil or thread it on a stick. Is smoked sausage firmer than the Italian sausage used in this video? It looks wonderful!
As a Detroiter, the meat sauce is a little light on chili powder and tomato base. It is supposed to taste like chili. There is actually a separate loose meat ground beef that can go on these but the actual chili is supposed to look and taste like chili.
the chili procedure you go through for the coney dogs is how i do my taco meat. extra water, make a bit of a soup out of it and let it cook in a crock pot for hours, sometimes days. Its like a pot of never ending taco meat if you just toss in a bit more meat and seasonings before you goto bed.
Ouch! 19:37 Firstly, I remembered that medley about salads "I know, it's hard to look forward to a salad without looking like a lunatic". But piercing a half-cooked sausage with a skewer can serve as an illustration of what happens when you are diagnosed with a bladder stone. So you experience sondaging of your urinary channels through your sausage. Painful to hell. But in all these recipes I would use pita bread and absolutely no chips, which - as stated in movie "The Sweeteste thing" from 2002 - causes colon cancer.
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On Cleveland’s near West side there was a little hole in the wall restaurant called The Hotdog Inn. Their Lyons Brand “signature” coney dogs were steamed to perfection, placed on a soft bun with chili and onions. The neighborhood was a little dicey to say the least, but these coney dogs were so tasty I risked my life countless times to patronize this place.
I miss the hot dog inn and Steve's the neighborhood is up and coming now pretty soon its going to be all hipsters lol but you are right that part of lorain Ave is sketchy
I’m sorry to hear that the hotdog inn is no longer there, but I’m happy to hear that neighborhood is “up and coming”. In the late 70s I was living in Lakewood on Crawford Avenue and worked in Cleveland. I stopped at the inn to get a couple hotdogs quite often since I couldn’t cook to save my life. Ah those were the days! Take care!
@@Longeno55 in the 80’s when I was at Case? Not sure…but I do remember Grumm’s. Some of the best subs I’ve ever eaten
Hot Dog Inn was the best, a little west of Cleveland in Amherst is Hot Dog Heaven.... Really awesome
This all brings a tear to my eye. I miss when I was a young up-and-comer and my grandpa would bring me up to Cleveland for the day. We would go catch a game (when you could walk up to the box office and buy tickets on the day of the game), go get hot dogs, and visit all there was to see in Cleveland. Since he worked up there he was familiar with all of the deeper creases and all of the hole-in-the-wall restaurants that were "must-visits" when we would go up there. Growing up nearby it was THE big city, my own private Metropolis, and hearing about so many of these restaurants no longer being there is saddening to say the least.
*EDIT* I left my comment using speech-to-text and there were a few spelling and grammar errors that irked me. I had to fix them.
Yum 💙👍
"This could make you a neighborhood legend but this time for a good reason" 🤣😂🤣
The Coney Island sauce is similar to the garbage plate sauce but Rochester New York uses allspice and cinnamon
Very popular food here in RI and S E MASS
Ohhhhhh man. They pair this with Kogel viennas with natural casings. I gained 10 pounds eating these one summer.
Coney dog = disgusting
How did the hot dog get a date?
He mustard up the courage to ask.
I came here for the recipes, but I stayed for your pun on a bun.
Boo, terrible, gettof !
@@robplazzman6049 Ah, ketch up!
Chef John, I just love your videos and sense of humor! The food is always delicious, and the honesty and humor helps it seem very accessible to us non-chefs. Thanks.
Now I need a t-shirt that says, "you can't spiralize a limp sausage!"🤣🤣🤣
Love a good Coney dog. I also think the onions should be as finely diced as possible for the best texture.
I’ll never forget my shock at first sight of Coney Island after moving to Detroit from northern New Jersey in the early seventies.
"This could make you a neighborhood legend, only this time for a good reason." Chef John is too funny.
I like it when Mr. Chef John shows his Chicago.
I like it when mustard goes on a hotdog and anything else, except ketchup.
I have an ongoing argument with a 6 yr old. I told him he should never put ketchup on a hot dog, only mustard and he argues otherwise. He’s now 7 and I still haven’t gotten it across. But I’m still trying. 😄
Chef John, I feel this is almost blasphemous to correct you. The Detroit coney is served on a natural casing dog, mostly grilled, not boiled. That is done by people south of us who shall not be named. And I like your Chilli, the authentic sauce is done with beef hearts, which break down to nothing, giving that strange, incredibly smooth texture that leaves you wondering 🤔. But the natural casing dog is a must. Please continue...
C.O.s, thanks again for the great compilation video! It's always a treat to spot a video I've missed and is totally new to me, or another that I meant to try but never got around to it, or one that I've made, loved, forgotten and am now anxious to make again. Appreciate all you do.
Question, how come Chef John videos (including these from you) never get mentioned for Webby Awards? 4.2+m subscribers can't be wrong. 🙂 Thanks again.
Hey Mme. I normally don't get the chats until after they are recorded, but i always got a big laugh when Chef used to call you ummm Magoo. I thought he was just pulling your leg (as he is likely to do). Somewhere along the timeline, someone must have told him that mme meant madame. I just could not believe that a "chef", whose wife is named Michele, didn't know French. Did you finally break down and tell him? Or did he admit to kidding you all along?
@@tawpgk Hi, didn't see this until today, sorry. Paul finally told him what the Mme stood for. 😉 A couple weeks later I confessed I wasn't even French (not much anyway) and its a nickname from childhood.
Hope you can make a chat sometime...as you can tell, its a hoot.
How could you forget the Sonoran Hot Dog? Bacon wrapped hot dog, toasted cheese, avocados, tomato salsa, crema, beans on a grilled French roll.
That sounds amazing! 😋
Right???
We don't use French Rolls in Tucson, we use Bolillo Buns.😉
I'm from the Detroit area originally and Coney Island restaurants are everywhere. At one point I lived in NYC for 4 years and thought is was funny Coney Island restaurants were nowhere to be found!
Place some crunchy creamy cole slaw on that Coney dog & you have the best hotdogs of all, West Virginia style!!!😋
The only thing I disagree with is saying that the coney sauce didn't look beautiful - it was gorgeous! Lafayette Coney > American Coney... but only by a smidge.
Detroit native? Just asking because of Lafayette
Imho the best is usually your neighborhood coney
@@lisapop5219 Yes, native. Lafayette and American ARE neighborhood coneys... they aren't chains like Leo's or National. Now in MY opinion, Joe's Coney Island in Houghton Lake has the best coney - I have driven 90 minutes out of my way to stop there on more than a few occasions...
My mom sweet-talked a Coney Island owner out of his secret. I don't claim to believe it's universal, but he used finely ground beef heart in his sauce. I have never had plain beef heart and would have denied it if asked, but after my mom tried it on her own, it was identical to his sauce and oh, so delicious! I had been eating it for years and never knew.
That's absolutely true here in the Detroit area.
Yep, another Detroiter confirms it’s very true.
I’ve been enjoying your content and for the first time I suggest you never make a coney dog again!! LOL you made us Detroit people look like bad food consumers
Those split top buns are a GODSEND to me. I live in Alaska now and miss the split top buns I ate growing up in New England. They would also make perfect buns for Maine Lob-stah rolls or where I am now in Alaska, King Crab rolls. Thank you so much for this recipe!!!!
"You can't spiralize a limp sausage."
You can however spiralize a Limp Bizkit.
Such a distinctive and AUTHORITATIVE voice, Chef John, I could and do tune in, just to listen to it. For there is nothing like it around here.
Chef John, thank you for introducing me to ancho chile. I put that **** on everything now.
For Me fry a smoked hot dog Weiner
with a thick slice of bread topped with a slice of processed cheese Covered so the cheese melts
Assemble with a slice of pickle
I do the Italian sausage, but I use red wine instead of water. It is the bomb for spaghetti. (And a real Grinder) ;-)
Totally going to try the spiral cut sausage dogs for my next cookout.
My daughter grew up with moi talking English and her mother talking French. And one day she asked why we were talking about a chien chaud.
Greek style hotdog sauce is a weakness for me... I don't drive on the side of town where that chilli dog place is 😆
KISS ARMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You ROCK! Chef John!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I blame your parents ??? That was funny. Thanks Bro
The only way to eat a hotdog is with mustard. Chef John And I said so
In Chicago there was a greek, tommy c, who owned red hots. Now...Greeks would pickle green tomatoes, banana peppers stuffed with cabbage and carrot.
They put those on the hot dog.
They were wonderful. And of course, he used Vienna hot dogs.
Sounds a bit like giardiniara. The fabulous stuff served often on Italian beef. Delicious.
I dont know how to make fancy sausages and hotdogs, but I have a tip for fixings some people may like to try if you like to try new things. Its Mexican style hotog toppings: Sour Cream, small dice tomatoes, chopped onion, dice canned jalapeños lil sprinkle of salt.
Love all your recipes, your the only one I love on YT !!!! CHEF , I surch everywhere to find a corn bread that rise HIGH !!! I have tried so much recipes and never satisfied !!!
By the way , I don't like corn in the cake 😁 thank you chef !
Through the meat sauce on the fries and chips too
Yum
My small criticism re: "steamed hot dog bun." I've been putting mine into my crock pot steamer on a raised grid for a minute or so. They come out warmed, soft, I'll even go ahead and add mustard and cheese to the bun for the sake of melting in in just a bit prior to adding the hot hotdog and chili.
You should've included the Burger Dog. To me, it IS a hotdog
Once Again Chef, you have out done(dogged ), yourself!
I really love this one and will keep it and save it I probably won't make the hot dog buns or the sausage but I enjoyed seeing how it was done. The other ones will probably come up on some of our holiday tables over this summer as just something different. Totally enjoyed this one
Your split top roll can also be toasted on the grill. This style roll buttered and browned in the pan, is the only way to make a lobster roll.
You taught me the curly q sausage technique all those years ago. Very very good.
Great recipes Chef John also I love the way you go step by step and make it easy to make these recipes at home
I have a question on the recipe with the substitute hot dogs. LOL..Can I wrap prosciutto around it instead of bacon?
Probably. But bacon is better. I like to wrap my dogs in bologna. My wife likes to spread peanut butter on sausages before she puts it in her mouth. I think it is strange. But I let her get away with it. As long as she wants to keep me happy, I am OK with it.
"Detroit Rock City" KISS Memphis 1979... I think.. ; )
Fun times.
Chef John, I am struck thinking, is it possible that an upstate dude has not hit Texas Hots in Wellsville? I arrived there watching the coney dog portion. I'm sure the uninitiated would think these very similar but recommend when you are back home check it out as a beautiful drive and you will be in the know.
This is probably the one time I completely disagree with you, chef. I burn my dogs and toast me buns!! Hebrew Nationals, of course.
You showed the Detroit style Coney. But where is the love for the superior Flint style?
(- For those who don't know, it's like the difference between a sloppy joe and a Maid-Rite loosemeat -)
Well done Sir.
What!? You forgot my mama's green tomato relish! No hotdog in my family is complete without it. The stuff is great in potato salad, too.
Care to share the recipe? It sounds delicious!!!
What kind of bread/bun did you use on your homemade sausage? Oh, have you made or improve a Korean hot dog? January 28, 2023
10:51 two years ago I made bacon wrapped hotdogs that were then covered in hamburger, then coated in four and bread crumbs before frying.
geezus christ, is that a recipe from the heart attack grill
@@SentoB no, I came up with it myself. they were good, but it's an awful lot of work, and teenagers in the house barely BREATHED long enough to shove them in their stomachs, let a lone TASTE them.
almost a waste of applewood smoked bacon...
You did not mention beef heart - that's a gotta have for the meat sauce. Yeah and the dog must be a koegel - or something similar with a casing that snaps. But you're the Tony Marony of your homemade Coney
Chef John, I’ve been eating side split hotdog buns like a savage all my life, lol...it’s about time I try a top split bun and join the civilized world, thank you. Cheers! 🇨🇦
Give the bacon wrapped chicken a try. It might become your favorite hot dog. It did for me :)
I absolutely intend to make my own hot Italian sausage. I just can't get good Italian sausage where I live.
I was intrigued by the spiral cut sausages. Don't know why you wanted to put barbecue sauce on it, though.
"Jim Rowe Circus" line NAILED me, bud. Hahahah
Those sausages look amazing! Tho i cant say i have a stand mixer i think a meat grinder with sausage attachment will do xD
I like haram and treif salt. If you're going to use bacon the salt is no longer kosher, even if you get a rabbi to say oooga boooga words over it again.
Where, who's buns are those, haven't seen a hot dog bun split down the middle evenly in two years.
yeah your chicken hot dogs and home made hot dogs ..and sausages are much better than store brought !
"I used to work for the Jim Rose Circus?" No. Just... No, Chef John, no.
Outstanding
What type of casings were used for the Italian sausage?
I miss the hot dog buns of New England!!!!!
As a field tech, working on control systems, back in 1979 went to the Oscar Meyer plant in Los Angeles...... I didn't eat a hotdog for years.
You should try some airfryer recipes!!!
It always sounds like he is saying “salts” when he says “salt” lol
The most famous hotdogs in New York was cooked in water put on a bun with Sourkraut and Mustard served with a fully Sour Pickle.
Anyone remember the "Wiener Wagon" hot dog bun?
Have you ever tried making a cheese dog with Merkt cheese? You know, the stuff that comes in the small plastic tubs.... Amazing.
I'm like you - a hot dog purist . Just mustard for me. I do like barbecue sauce on my dog, and dill pickle relish. I recommend those.
I am sure that someone else must have mentioned it below, but the Coney Island chili in Detroit has the texture it has because they use ground beef heart for a portion of the meat. It adds a chewy texture. And the hot dogs are cooked on a flat top, not boiled. You need a dog with a natural casing to give it snap. Usually Vienna Sausage hot dogs.
Chumky clumps 😂 orClumpy Chunks😂
@corporateoverlords, where were the dates on the recipes? Also, how does one choose between all the various dogs and sausages chef has made? Also, kudos for including a bun recipe as well. Always appreciated.
My father used to spiral cut smoked sausage like that, only he didn't par-boil or thread it on a stick. Is smoked sausage firmer than the Italian sausage used in this video?
It looks wonderful!
As a Detroiter, the meat sauce is a little light on chili powder and tomato base. It is supposed to taste like chili. There is actually a separate loose meat ground beef that can go on these but the actual chili is supposed to look and taste like chili.
the chili procedure you go through for the coney dogs is how i do my taco meat. extra water, make a bit of a soup out of it and let it cook in a crock pot for hours, sometimes days. Its like a pot of never ending taco meat if you just toss in a bit more meat and seasonings before you goto bed.
Thanks John! The coney dog (from Detroit) brought back tasty memories!
Good morning chief John from Sacramento CA . What a great way to start your Sunday!
Was that Bachan's BBQ sauce on the chicken dog? I heard about that and can't wait to try it.
The best coney is in Flint Mi
where is a copy of recipes?
Ouch! 19:37 Firstly, I remembered that medley about salads "I know, it's hard to look forward to a salad without looking like a lunatic". But piercing a half-cooked sausage with a skewer can serve as an illustration of what happens when you are diagnosed with a bladder stone. So you experience sondaging of your urinary channels through your sausage. Painful to hell. But in all these recipes I would use pita bread and absolutely no chips, which - as stated in movie "The Sweeteste thing" from 2002 - causes colon cancer.
Running out of ideas
19:45 aaaaah jim rose circus! lol
Weenies? Oh, please.
The coney sauce is prepared similar to Cincinnati chili.
Great ideas and I truly like your style, sir! Thank-you!
Too good , 2 funny.
Oh how I love Hot Dogs!!!! Hugs from France
Chicago Hot Dog,BTW, hot dog chili looks great
I want hotdog.
woo woo woo !!!
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White peper
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Relish
Chips
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