My family and friends as well as myself, stopped going to see marvel movies in the theater after Thanos. It’s all garbage. And to respond to that girl on your podcast, it’s not that men hate women (you feminist)… it’s that they need to keep the gender the same as the comics. Gender swapping is what destroyed the MCU, besides feminism.
Shalla Bal is a girl in the comics. Gender swapping would be making her a man. If you're gonna cry about comics then at least familiarize yourself with the material. Also "that girl" was baiting you for the comment. Thanks for supporting women by supporting our show with your engagement.
Changing the Silver Surfer into a woman is gender swapping. Also, I’ve been reading comics since the late 60s, so I know everything there is to know about marvel.
AGREED! Gender swapping and unless an ancillary character race swapping, is blatant woke stupidity. Disconnects fans from the character they grew to love and enjoy.
Problem is no one trusts Disney anymore. So they get no benefit of the doubt. They’ve spit on and insulted the fans too many times for anyone to really expect them to do the character justice
just curious, how have they spit on and insulted the fans? i’m not coming after your opinion, I just want to know your thoughts on where the disconnect may be?
@@TheHolyGoofsone of the ways was how they did task master. Secret invasion, and a lot of people have waited their entire lives to see these characters interact in a grand sandbox like the mcu and what we get is obscure gender bent versions of the characters. Anybody who grew up in the 90s and read comics didn’t have superhero movies like kids who grew up in the current era. Shala bal was only silver surfer for like 4 issues in the entire 60 year publishing history of the character. I think Garner would have been a better Frankie Ray Nova
@@19cream832 again we have no idea if this will be THE Silver Surfer. She could literally be in the movie for 1 scene as Shalla Bal to establish a plot. Can we stop acting like the world is ending 🤣🤣
@@TheHolyGoofs I get what you’re saying but Nova was a total badass and even had an attraction to Jonny storm. She was even pretty awesome in the og SS cartoon
I think what's going to happen is that the FF is going to start in an alternate universe with the lady Silver Surfer and then when they jump to the 616 the classic version will pop up.
It is a work around. MCU trying to be cute and give a middle finger to the fans. Since she isn’t THE Silver Surfer, but one from another universe, its ok. Should have just made her Binary, then it’d be ok. So is that going to make the FF originate from another universe also?
While I've been over the Marvel universe for awhile, this being a gender swap or not doesn't matter all. A good story is a good story, the gender is inconsequential.
Marvel wants to start different.this time. And Remember. The Multiverse is here! There are 'Varients' Remember the Alligator loki? No one ever called that Woke! You Anti- Woke Narcissists need to get over yourselves! You expect Perfection but your not perfect. 🙄
@@TheHolyGoofs their fiduciary responsibility is to be as profitable as possible. This "minority" has tanked a few movies now. This won't likely be different.
how does this cancel the ultimate point that she was indeed in the first comic and therefore not a random entry into this universe? She could very well die in this movie!!? We have no idea how this character will be used? There’s not even an official announcement from Marvel claiming she will be THE Silver Surfer. So what is your point?
@@TheHolyGoofs What is their point? You misrepresented the history of this character by omitting the fact that it was a one off. Using this one off as a basis for justifying the change and for why you are "wanting something different" then the traditional silver surfer. Are you bored of the traditional? Did you ever like The Silver Surfer or were you waiting for them to change it since the 2000s? You went after people because in your idea they dont read the comics since they didnt know the height and weight of a character, when they never discuss her height and weight of that character IN THE COMICS! Only in at best some BIO of multiple characters off shot, or most likely ONLY on wiki. You are posers and Bama was showing you evidence to THAT FACT
@@OoLOSTWORLDoO where she was the WIFE of the silver surfer, Norrin Radd. There was also Juno, a female silver surfer that actually existed longer the just one comic. Try reading an actual comic instead of using wiki pages and RUclips videos shill.
Hahahahahahahahahahhahahaha that’s the funniest shit I’ve ever seen they are literally digging their own grave deeper and deeper it’s actually hilarious.
@@TheHolyGoofs no they've been losing money on most of their movies and TV shows the marvels did terrible so did echo no body watched it so I'm talking about business and quality those are hand in hand
@@ObedSaigbeh since when? they are going to make whatever they want no matter how much ya’ll cry. people STILL watch it. IN FACT a lot of YA’LL watch it hahaha. People watched She Hulk and hate reviewed every episode! so let’s talk about how much you hated this movie after it is released and about how much money it didn’t make once they got your ticket money.
Stick to the source material! Disney don't need to keep messing with the gender or race of characters to suit their own agenda! All it does is alienate the fans cos they can see through it 👎
They have not done anything that fills the seats in theaters in ten years, don't think this well be any different, How about some entertainment in place of the propaganda,?
@@TheHolyGoofs true. Lets see if the long version works: Doesnt really matter the reason, we dont need a woman silver surfer so i dont agree endorsing this idea. Like no offense to anyone, but we literally do not NEED a female version of silver surfer (we alrrady have a woman herald made of fire if i remember correctly). If marvel wants their F4 to stand out from the rest, they should do a... GOOD movie.
@@Gemorodaagain, we don’t know if she will be THE female version of the silver surfer! this isn’t official. we have no idea what the plot of this will be. I think people are overreacting!
My family and friends as well as myself, stopped going to see marvel movies in the theater after Thanos. It’s all garbage. And to respond to that girl on your podcast, it’s not that men hate women (you feminist)… it’s that they need to keep the gender the same as the comics. Gender swapping is what destroyed the MCU, besides feminism.
Totally agree with you.
Shalla Bal is a girl in the comics. Gender swapping would be making her a man. If you're gonna cry about comics then at least familiarize yourself with the material. Also "that girl" was baiting you for the comment. Thanks for supporting women by supporting our show with your engagement.
Changing the Silver Surfer into a woman is gender swapping. Also, I’ve been reading comics since the late 60s, so I know everything there is to know about marvel.
Silver Surfer is a man. Changing him to a woman is gender swapping. I’ve been reading marvel comics since the late 60s, so I know it’s history.
AGREED! Gender swapping and unless an ancillary character race swapping, is blatant woke stupidity. Disconnects fans from the character they grew to love and enjoy.
Problem is no one trusts Disney anymore. So they get no benefit of the doubt. They’ve spit on and insulted the fans too many times for anyone to really expect them to do the character justice
just curious, how have they spit on and insulted the fans? i’m not coming after your opinion, I just want to know your thoughts on where the disconnect may be?
@@TheHolyGoofsone of the ways was how they did task master. Secret invasion, and a lot of people have waited their entire lives to see these characters interact in a grand sandbox like the mcu and what we get is obscure gender bent versions of the characters. Anybody who grew up in the 90s and read comics didn’t have superhero movies like kids who grew up in the current era. Shala bal was only silver surfer for like 4 issues in the entire 60 year publishing history of the character. I think Garner would have been a better Frankie Ray Nova
@@19cream832 again we have no idea if this will be THE Silver Surfer. She could literally be in the movie for 1 scene as Shalla Bal to establish a plot. Can we stop acting like the world is ending 🤣🤣
@@TheHolyGoofs I get what you’re saying but Nova was a total badass and even had an attraction to Jonny storm. She was even pretty awesome in the og SS cartoon
Im looking for a reason to go back. Still looking
Go back to what, Marvel? 😅
@@TheHolyGoofs MCU
@@jessiem-xt2np what took you out?
I think what's going to happen is that the FF is going to start in an alternate universe with the lady Silver Surfer and then when they jump to the 616 the classic version will pop up.
Which would be fun!! I don’t understand the hate. 😒
I stand by my 1 and only hot take.
👀 you’re always right!
I don’t know who this jo person is but they seem great at knitting!
It is a work around. MCU trying to be cute and give a middle finger to the fans. Since she isn’t THE Silver Surfer, but one from another universe, its ok. Should have just made her Binary, then it’d be ok. So is that going to make the FF originate from another universe also?
that’s the thing - we have no idea what they are doing with this. gotta let it play out!
Alternate universe, doesnt matter
While I've been over the Marvel universe for awhile, this being a gender swap or not doesn't matter all. A good story is a good story, the gender is inconsequential.
PREACH!!
I hope this is good cuz i like the fantastic 4 but with how marvel has been lately i doubt it
all we can do is see how it pans out! love the director and cast so far! 💯
Marvel wants to start different.this time. And Remember. The Multiverse is here! There are 'Varients' Remember the Alligator loki? No one ever called that Woke! You Anti- Woke Narcissists need to get over yourselves! You expect Perfection but your not perfect. 🙄
PREACH!! 💯💯💯
Please... if Disney put a bunch of white people in Black Panther, the NAACP would be flipping tables.
@@tootyjohnson LMAO this is such a weak talking point. please buy a new pack or reshuffle your defense cards.
@@tootyjohnson and we wouldn't even need the NAACP if there weren't people like you. 🙄
They should have a smaller ground level villain in the first movie like mole man. Then work up to SS and Galactus like they did Thanos
Rumor has it that Galactus will be one of the big villains in movie. Idk what they’re up to but I’m intrigued 😅
@@TheHolyGoofs they’re shooting their wad right away lol
@@19cream832 they’re really desperate to establish the Fantastic 4 in this universe 🤣
At last a balanced discussion about the character.. Getting a little tired of those RUclips cry baby channels.
😅 someone had to do it! you’re welcome 👏🖤
...I really don't get how a publicly traded company is allowed to continue to make decisions that lower the value of the company.
because the majority of people still watch and don’t care about the petty shit the minority are fixated on. 🫡
@@TheHolyGoofs their fiduciary responsibility is to be as profitable as possible. This "minority" has tanked a few movies now. This won't likely be different.
2:32, she was only silver surfer in ONE comic, and she died at the end of it. So I think you should read a comic instead of just wiki pages
how does this cancel the ultimate point that she was indeed in the first comic and therefore not a random entry into this universe? She could very well die in this movie!!? We have no idea how this character will be used? There’s not even an official announcement from Marvel claiming she will be THE Silver Surfer. So what is your point?
@@TheHolyGoofs What is their point? You misrepresented the history of this character by omitting the fact that it was a one off. Using this one off as a basis for justifying the change and for why you are "wanting something different" then the traditional silver surfer. Are you bored of the traditional? Did you ever like The Silver Surfer or were you waiting for them to change it since the 2000s? You went after people because in your idea they dont read the comics since they didnt know the height and weight of a character, when they never discuss her height and weight of that character IN THE COMICS! Only in at best some BIO of multiple characters off shot, or most likely ONLY on wiki.
You are posers and Bama was showing you evidence to THAT FACT
Boo hoo get over it, she was also in the Silver Surfer cartoon. She is a Marvel character in a Marvel movie so why have a hissy fit over it.
@@OoLOSTWORLDoO Thank you!! 👏👏👏
@@OoLOSTWORLDoO where she was the WIFE of the silver surfer, Norrin Radd. There was also Juno, a female silver surfer that actually existed longer the just one comic. Try reading an actual comic instead of using wiki pages and RUclips videos shill.
Marvel already went too far with that abomination known as The Last Jedi
🤣🤣🤣 what!?
Hahahahahahahahahahhahahaha that’s the funniest shit I’ve ever seen they are literally digging their own grave deeper and deeper it’s actually hilarious.
👀 this movie is going to make a lot of money…sorry to tell you. at the end of the day, that’s all they really care about 🤣
@@TheHolyGoofsNo it's not have u seen how bad marvel movies habe been doing lately
@@ObedSaigbeh you’re talking about quality and I’m talking about business.
@@TheHolyGoofs no they've been losing money on most of their movies and TV shows the marvels did terrible so did echo no body watched it so I'm talking about business and quality those are hand in hand
@@ObedSaigbeh since when? they are going to make whatever they want no matter how much ya’ll cry. people STILL watch it. IN FACT a lot of YA’LL watch it hahaha. People watched She Hulk and hate reviewed every episode! so let’s talk about how much you hated this movie after it is released and about how much money it didn’t make once they got your ticket money.
SO WHO IS ACTUALLY UPSET?.... EVERYONE SAYING THAT BEFORE ANYONE SAID ANYTHING
the response to her casting was outrage this week…all over the internet. if you missed it, good for you! 😅
You guys are the best! I never miss a video! You hear that algorithmic overlords? I said I never miss a video! *sweats profusely*
🤣🤣🤣 thank you stranger!
Stick to the source material! Disney don't need to keep messing with the gender or race of characters to suit their own agenda! All it does is alienate the fans cos they can see through it 👎
this character is quite literally in the source material…😐
They have not done anything that fills the seats in theaters in ten years, don't think this well be any different, How about some entertainment in place of the propaganda,?
No one asked for this . . And why should anyone care? What are they talking about? Mike drop for what? No smoke to Julia (or women).
*drops mic again*
Tired of the gender/race switching that the MCU has been doing. I won't see a movie that does this.
this isn’t gender swapping this character literally exists but whatever don’t watch it. Marvel will be fine without your ticket purchase
@@TheHolyGoofs There is no female Silver Surfer in Marvel Comics. The MCU gender swapped her for the original character.
@@jimbrown4640 there is. check again.
no
oh wow you’re right actually. didn’t think of that. 😅
@@TheHolyGoofs true. Lets see if the long version works:
Doesnt really matter the reason, we dont need a woman silver surfer so i dont agree endorsing this idea. Like no offense to anyone, but we literally do not NEED a female version of silver surfer (we alrrady have a woman herald made of fire if i remember correctly).
If marvel wants their F4 to stand out from the rest, they should do a... GOOD movie.
@@Gemorodaagain, we don’t know if she will be THE female version of the silver surfer! this isn’t official. we have no idea what the plot of this will be. I think people are overreacting!
@@Gemorodashes prolly part of the plot
Silver Surf'et
🤣🤣🤣
Aren’t you tired of all this shit guys?
Tired of what? 😂
wow i've never watched a better video....
you’re welcome! 🖤🫡