Even if I don't necessarily agree with either Tim or Landon on certain issues I do appreciate that they're willing to express strong comments without fear. Most other commentators don't want to risk their access to coaches, players, etc.
French USMNT fan since 2002 here. It’s always a pleasure to hear Landon Donovan, my favorite soccer player ever (yeah, can you believe that ? I had Papin, Zidane, Henry and Mbappé in my country but I only care about LD 😂) Very good show you're having here with Tim ! It’s really interesting to also hear some insider's point of view about USMNT history !
Just wanted to say thank you for using this platform to deliver entertaining soccer media, with your unique insights and perspectives. There was definitely a huge gap for the USMNT fans. Question: MLS has come a long way from its inauguration however; there is still a long way to go before it can truly compete on the world stage. What are two changes that the MLS needs to make in order to be on the short list of elite organizations?
We here in San Diego so badly want your guys takes on what the superdraft is going to look like the coming together of sdfc and what your takes are so far. If you guys can touch on that before the draft happens, we love it!
I cannot BELIEVE that my two favorite all time players have a podcast and Im just learning about it. Depression sucks yall it takes you away from things you love! Happy to see this and lots to catch up on lol
Caps (per Wikipedia): The term dates from the practice in the United Kingdom of awarding a cap to every player in an international match of rugby football and association football. In the early days of football, the concept of each team wearing a set of matching shirts had not been universally adopted, so each side would distinguish itself from the other by wearing a specific sort of cap.
Love that we have a podcast with the US GOATS. Glad they touched on Klinsmann. People can write Donovan's opinion off but when Howard shares his perspective it's not easily deniable. Could listen to their soccer perspectives all day. But hopefully not political perspectives.
Most former us soccer players have very calculated, biased and filtered takes. Please continue to be honest and provide great insight that we would never get anywhere else
Donovan, you've said it in the past before, that if you felt you can help the team, you'll come out of retirement and help. Galaxy needs you now! At least a motivational speech before the game, or to hype up the crowd! My favorite player of all time for both the US and Galaxy!
Gentlemen, you were asking about the history of the term “caps” for appearances. It dates to the earliest days of the game, back in the Victorian era when players usually just showed up in their work clothes: teams were often distinguished by wearing different coloured caps. I believe the first reference to caps is from Sheffield FC, in rules published in 1857 that required each player to bring a red and a blue cap to the game. As things developed, clubs and national teams started providing caps, and eventually it became custom & practice among some national teams to hand out actual hats even though that was no longer part of the uniform.
There is a moment towards the end of the Galaxy-Red Bulls final where it appears Galaxy's John Nelson drags down Red Bull's Elias Manoel in the box. Did you guys notice this? Why didn't VAR intervene and have Guido Gonzalez take a look at it?
Question: This is for Landon. Hi Landon. You were my hero for most of my childhood as a diehard Galaxy fan and you still are. (Love you too Tim) My question to you is why did you retire so early? I was only twelve at the time and I would have loved to see you stay at the Galaxy for a couple of more years. The age of 32 seems pretty early as there are players who play till their late 30s in MLS. Example: Tim Ream.
I learned my lesson on being a gringo mixing with Mexico fans after the 2009 World Cup Qualifier in Mexico City near the Plaza Reforma. It was not the best idea, but I learned my lesson. Thanks to those Mexican American guys from Dallas who saved my bacon.
Landon and Tim, In 2014 the Nation was shocked to see Landon left of the USMNT World Cup roster. How did the players feel about this decision and was there any sort of uprising to bring LD along for what would have probably his last World Cup?
Ben to answer the question from the outside, I've literally always joked, Landon would have scored the shot Wondo missed everyday. And the fact he left the best USMNT player off the WC roster..what an idiot lol
The nation team is in a better spot than 2 years ago but the issue is there is a surplus of players in the same position and yes some players so go to clubs that will give them playing time
A couple years back, Landon played part of a season indoor with the Sockers. Growing up in Wichita and KC, I love the indoor game. Do you follow the MASL and if so, thoughts on that product.
Question for LD - As a former coach of my beloved SD Loyal in the USL, what are your thoughts on Eric Quill of New Mexico United “getting promoted” to coach in Dallas? Is this an anomaly or are there genuinely other good coaches in the USL that could break out into MLS? Thanks, Scott M. - San Diego
The way Tim is talking about Klinsman in the 2014 is the team didnt play for the manager they played in spite of him Sound like the players playing in the 2022 world cup in spite of greg Now they got poch the players can be free to come out and call out gregs incompetence
weird b/c the players always seemed to defend berhalter... and werent they the ones that, when consulted by the federation, asked to bring him back? the guy is gone you can drop your weird hate boner for him and get it prepped for poch's inevitable downfall
its not the same, but Galaxy did have good success earlier in the season when Puig was out (for an ankle issue?) with Diego slotting in Puig's spot. No he's not the same player, but their record was 3-1-1 in those games.
How could you miss talking about Cal vs Stanford? Great game! Cal comeback win. Their rivalry is longer than Ohio State vs Michigan and Cal vs Stanford rivalry has the #1 college play of all time. Go Bears.
These gents have the hearts of Lions. But.. Landon Donovan was/is the leader of the wolves.. He is the Packmaster. You see the look in their eyes.. . .I wont even try to mention others bc theres too many to name. Whats Frankie doing nowadays?
Nobody cares and Landon even said that. If you listened to the last episode he explained, it’s not about the dance. It’s about, as a 26 y/o adult. You don’t get to do something and then claim ignorance, you have more responsibility than that. That’s it. Do what you want, but stand on business afterward and don’t claim ignorance, cause that’s what children do.
I agree if Christian Pulisic did a Joe Biden dance or a Kamala Harris dance, Obama dance. The mainstream media would be kissing his ass and saying he’s so bright. Saying such an intelligent man It’s disgusting how politically biased everyone is including ex USMNT legends🙄
@@alvy09590 it’s not about the dance. It’s about what he said.. or more importantly didn’t say after. CP is very intelligent and is bright! Weather he supports Trump Harris, or isn’t political at all. But claiming ignorance is what LD and Tim had a problem with. Because as you and I agree, he’s very bright and knows exactly where the dance came from.
"The guy is a mess and It is no coincidence that every where he has gone he has failed" Damm that's harsh. The venom is evident...perhaps Jurgen was bad but your hatred coming through loud and clear is a bit over the top brother.
Jose he isnt wrong. He just coached my team, South Korea and he was EVERY bit the same disaster as he was coaching the US and ONCE AGAIN, like Timmy said, it was really the players managing themselves and winning in spite of Juergen rather than him carrying them. I really dont understand this either because for Juergen to reach the level that he did as a player requires a level of work ethic, focus, discipline and intelligence that is top-class (for sure he was a better player and in a different class than either Howard or Donovan) and yet he hardly displayed these traits as a manager
@@estherlee5527 For context, Philipp Lahm, one of the greatest fullbacks in history, said this about Jurgen: "We practically only practiced fitness under Klinsmann. Tactical things were neglected. There was very little technical instruction and the players had to get together independently before the game to discuss how we wanted to play, All the players knew after about eight weeks that it was not going to work out with Klinsmann. The remainder of that campaign was nothing but limiting the damage." That about sums up his entire career
I believe he was talking about Gio specifically.. I tend to agree with him. Cause Gio NEEDS to play. But we haven’t seen it! At this point he just need to find a club ANYWHERE and get 90min performances under his belt.
Landon’s take on having Gio and Christian come to the MLS now in the prime of their careers and Tim’s take on Jurgen being a horrible coach when he got some huge historical wins (WC group of death, Mexico in Azteca, and against top European teams)
Millions of people applauded Pulisic for Trump dance. With all the political garbage spewed by the Rapinoe, and others it’s absurd for you guys to make this stance against him. Freedom of expression and he’s a patriot of US unlike many others that wear the jersey. You guys just lost a listener and former long time fan of both of yours.
Pulisic freedom of expression. Tim and Landon I don't like your point of view, so I won't watch your show anymore. Don't be a hypocrite. Its freedom of expression no matter your point of view. I don't like Trump but I still like Christian. He can do what he likes but he should own it, like Nick Bosa, which was Howards point in the article.
@ Tim is the hypocrite. Chastizing Pulisic as “stupid” for his support of Trump then blasting Trump. Typical liberal. I watched these guys for the soccer stuff. Not political garbage. He also neglected to point out the Black US players that did the Trump dance with Pulisic. They must be racist too.
Yeah the Rapinoe thing beclowns anyone who disagrees with the Trump dance. Wont stop watching but will certainly call them out for the woke brain worm they rockin.
Gentlemen, you were asking about the history of the term “caps” for appearances. It dates to the earliest days of the game, back in the Victorian era when players usually just showed up in their work clothes: teams were often distinguished by wearing different coloured caps. I believe the first reference to caps is from Sheffield FC, in rules published in 1857 that required each player to bring a red and a blue cap to the game. As things developed, clubs and national teams started providing caps, and eventually it became custom & practice among some national teams to hand out actual hats even though that was no longer part of the uniform.
Even if I don't necessarily agree with either Tim or Landon on certain issues I do appreciate that they're willing to express strong comments without fear. Most other commentators don't want to risk their access to coaches, players, etc.
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French USMNT fan since 2002 here. It’s always a pleasure to hear Landon Donovan, my favorite soccer player ever (yeah, can you believe that ? I had Papin, Zidane, Henry and Mbappé in my country but I only care about LD 😂)
Very good show you're having here with Tim !
It’s really interesting to also hear some insider's point of view about USMNT history !
Just wanted to say thank you for using this platform to deliver entertaining soccer media, with your unique insights and perspectives. There was definitely a huge gap for the USMNT fans.
Question: MLS has come a long way from its inauguration however; there is still a long way to go before it can truly compete on the world stage. What are two changes that the MLS needs to make in order to be on the short list of elite organizations?
We here in San Diego so badly want your guys takes on what the superdraft is going to look like the coming together of sdfc and what your takes are so far. If you guys can touch on that before the draft happens, we love it!
45:23 for the Klinsmann discussion
I cannot BELIEVE that my two favorite all time players have a podcast and Im just learning about it. Depression sucks yall it takes you away from things you love! Happy to see this and lots to catch up on lol
Caps (per Wikipedia): The term dates from the practice in the United Kingdom of awarding a cap to every player in an international match of rugby football and association football. In the early days of football, the concept of each team wearing a set of matching shirts had not been universally adopted, so each side would distinguish itself from the other by wearing a specific sort of cap.
I absolutely loved this episode! Especially the unfiltered section about Jurgen...👏👏👏
Kilnsmenn not taking Landon to the World Cup cost the USA their first World Cup period. Landon would have never missed that Wondo missed goal.
Gd Thank you!
Love that we have a podcast with the US GOATS. Glad they touched on Klinsmann. People can write Donovan's opinion off but when Howard shares his perspective it's not easily deniable. Could listen to their soccer perspectives all day. But hopefully not political perspectives.
I’m loving this podcast! LD & Timmy, two of my favs 🫶🏽
I hurt so bad to see Ricky puig get hurt like that. He's a top class player.
Same
Most former us soccer players have very calculated, biased and filtered takes. Please continue to be honest and provide great insight that we would never get anywhere else
This is a great show, they fit well together.
Love all the insight. Go Galaxy!
Puig out? Bring back Donovan!
Donovan, you've said it in the past before, that if you felt you can help the team, you'll come out of retirement and help. Galaxy needs you now! At least a motivational speech before the game, or to hype up the crowd!
My favorite player of all time for both the US and Galaxy!
Gentlemen, you were asking about the history of the term “caps” for appearances. It dates to the earliest days of the game, back in the Victorian era when players usually just showed up in their work clothes: teams were often distinguished by wearing different coloured caps. I believe the first reference to caps is from Sheffield FC, in rules published in 1857 that required each player to bring a red and a blue cap to the game. As things developed, clubs and national teams started providing caps, and eventually it became custom & practice among some national teams to hand out actual hats even though that was no longer part of the uniform.
USMNT: Massive improvement at the coaching position!
There is a moment towards the end of the Galaxy-Red Bulls final where it appears Galaxy's John Nelson drags down Red Bull's Elias Manoel in the box. Did you guys notice this? Why didn't VAR intervene and have Guido Gonzalez take a look at it?
Loving the podcast! Haven' t looked forward to a soccer podcast this much since the days of Benny, Sal and Ike on BSI the podcast!
Great podcast guys!
Question:
This is for Landon.
Hi Landon. You were my hero for most of my childhood as a diehard Galaxy fan and you still are. (Love you too Tim) My question to you is why did you retire so early? I was only twelve at the time and I would have loved to see you stay at the Galaxy for a couple of more years. The age of 32 seems pretty early as there are players who play till their late 30s in MLS. Example: Tim Ream.
I learned my lesson on being a gringo mixing with Mexico fans after the 2009 World Cup Qualifier in Mexico City near the Plaza Reforma. It was not the best idea, but I learned my lesson. Thanks to those Mexican American guys from Dallas who saved my bacon.
Love the Robin Fraser shout Tim. I think he would be a great fit in Toronto or even NYCFC
Landon and Tim, In 2014 the Nation was shocked to see Landon left of the USMNT World Cup roster. How did the players feel about this decision and was there any sort of uprising to bring LD along for what would have probably his last World Cup?
Ben to answer the question from the outside, I've literally always joked, Landon would have scored the shot Wondo missed everyday.
And the fact he left the best USMNT player off the WC roster..what an idiot lol
The nation team is in a better spot than 2 years ago but the issue is there is a surplus of players in the same position and yes some players so go to clubs that will give them playing time
That "you're not a soccer practicer" line is very much NOT Poch thinking. What he said at Spurs was "Training is your job. Games are for fun."
A couple years back, Landon played part of a season indoor with the Sockers. Growing up in Wichita and KC, I love the indoor game. Do you follow the MASL and if so, thoughts on that product.
Diego Fagundez plays different than Riqui, but when Riqui was out earlier in the season, the team player really well with Fagundez as well
Question for LD - As a former coach of my beloved SD Loyal in the USL, what are your thoughts on Eric Quill of New Mexico United “getting promoted” to coach in Dallas? Is this an anomaly or are there genuinely other good coaches in the USL that could break out into MLS? Thanks, Scott M. - San Diego
We are much better now. We had Shaq Moore at 22 WC. And turdhulter essentially benched Gio. WTF.
This podcast feels like what the old “in soccer we trust” podcast before it went mainstream and rebranded to Call it what you want.
convinced there was a falling out with heath
The way Tim is talking about Klinsman in the 2014 is the team didnt play for the manager they played in spite of him
Sound like the players playing in the 2022 world cup in spite of greg
Now they got poch the players can be free to come out and call out gregs incompetence
weird b/c the players always seemed to defend berhalter... and werent they the ones that, when consulted by the federation, asked to bring him back? the guy is gone you can drop your weird hate boner for him and get it prepped for poch's inevitable downfall
How close do you think Top College and USL players are to MLS starters? Would they have started in MLS 15-20 years ago?
❤ Riqui
Good stuff
2nd Time asking if you guys would bring USMNT/USWNT Alumni as guest on the podcast?
its not the same, but Galaxy did have good success earlier in the season when Puig was out (for an ankle issue?) with Diego slotting in Puig's spot. No he's not the same player, but their record was 3-1-1 in those games.
How could you miss talking about Cal vs Stanford? Great game! Cal comeback win. Their rivalry is longer than Ohio State vs Michigan and Cal vs Stanford rivalry has the #1 college play of all time. Go Bears.
Let’s go LA Galaxy!!!!
We are the same, we haven't gotten worse or better for usmnt
These gents have the hearts of Lions.
But.. Landon Donovan was/is the leader of the wolves..
He is the Packmaster.
You see the look in their eyes..
. .I wont even try to mention others bc theres too many to name.
Whats Frankie doing nowadays?
Let’s go galaxy next man up don’t forget Gabriel pec is a monster
QUESTION : Name your all time USMNT starting 11 !
Who cares if Pulisic did a Trump dance? People need to relax.
Nobody cares and Landon even said that. If you listened to the last episode he explained, it’s not about the dance. It’s about, as a 26 y/o adult. You don’t get to do something and then claim ignorance, you have more responsibility than that. That’s it. Do what you want, but stand on business afterward and don’t claim ignorance, cause that’s what children do.
I agree if Christian Pulisic did a Joe Biden dance or a Kamala Harris dance, Obama dance. The mainstream media would be kissing his ass and saying he’s so bright. Saying such an intelligent man
It’s disgusting how politically biased everyone is including ex USMNT legends🙄
@@alvy09590 it’s not about the dance. It’s about what he said.. or more importantly didn’t say after. CP is very intelligent and is bright! Weather he supports Trump Harris, or isn’t political at all. But claiming ignorance is what LD and Tim had a problem with. Because as you and I agree, he’s very bright and knows exactly where the dance came from.
@@realflashkidWho cares! Maybe he knew that if he said it was the Trump dance there would be weak soy boys who would cry about it
@@alvy09590poor little whiner. Everyone is against you. Waaah. Such a deluded cult.
Sounders were clearly the better team... with starters out, and losing starters midgame... shmetzer is the best US manager in the world
Diego Fagubdez is a more than serviceable backup and also Galaxy already won matches without him. It’s still their cup to lose
Galaxy record without Riqui in 5 games they were 3-1-1.
Wait. CAP isn't country appearance??
Europe is where dreams go to die! American players need to stay in MLS the best league in the whole world.
Captain America is Canadian? Huh, I had no idea. Captain North America doesn't have the same ring to it.
😅🎉🎉😅
"The guy is a mess and It is no coincidence that every where he has gone he has failed" Damm that's harsh. The venom is evident...perhaps Jurgen was bad but your hatred coming through loud and clear is a bit over the top brother.
Jose he isnt wrong. He just coached my team, South Korea and he was EVERY bit the same disaster as he was coaching the US and ONCE AGAIN, like Timmy said, it was really the players managing themselves and winning in spite of Juergen rather than him carrying them. I really dont understand this either because for Juergen to reach the level that he did as a player requires a level of work ethic, focus, discipline and intelligence that is top-class (for sure he was a better player and in a different class than either Howard or Donovan) and yet he hardly displayed these traits as a manager
@@estherlee5527 For context, Philipp Lahm, one of the greatest fullbacks in history, said this about Jurgen: "We practically only practiced fitness under Klinsmann. Tactical things were neglected. There was very little technical instruction and the players had to get together independently before the game to discuss how we wanted to play, All the players knew after about eight weeks that it was not going to work out with Klinsmann. The remainder of that campaign was nothing but limiting the damage."
That about sums up his entire career
Asking for usmnt players that are playing well in Europe to comeback to mls come on man, what are we doing here.
I believe he was talking about Gio specifically.. I tend to agree with him. Cause Gio NEEDS to play. But we haven’t seen it! At this point he just need to find a club ANYWHERE and get 90min performances under his belt.
@@edgarcastilloarsenal Way to take him outta context....🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@salvadorgonzalez1409 I was referring to the person who asked the question lol
Love you guys as players❤ but your soccer takes are bizarre and at times disappointing to hear from my USMNT heroes😕
But you fail to mention one example of a bizarre or disappointing take?
Could it be that your takes are bizarre and ill-informed?
Landon’s take on having Gio and Christian come to the MLS now in the prime of their careers and Tim’s take on Jurgen being a horrible coach when he got some huge historical wins (WC group of death, Mexico in Azteca, and against top European teams)
Millions of people applauded Pulisic for Trump dance.
With all the political garbage spewed by the Rapinoe, and others it’s absurd for you guys to make this stance against him.
Freedom of expression and he’s a patriot of US unlike many others that wear the jersey.
You guys just lost a listener and former long time fan of both of yours.
Nice hissy fit. I just subscribed.
Pulisic freedom of expression. Tim and Landon I don't like your point of view, so I won't watch your show anymore. Don't be a hypocrite. Its freedom of expression no matter your point of view. I don't like Trump but I still like Christian. He can do what he likes but he should own it, like Nick Bosa, which was Howards point in the article.
@ Tim is the hypocrite. Chastizing Pulisic as “stupid” for his support of Trump then blasting Trump.
Typical liberal.
I watched these guys for the soccer stuff. Not political garbage. He also neglected to point out the Black US players that did the Trump dance with Pulisic. They must be racist too.
Yeah the Rapinoe thing beclowns anyone who disagrees with the Trump dance. Wont stop watching but will certainly call them out for the woke brain worm they rockin.
All they said is “own it, be who you want, but dont then deny it.” They literally supported him doing the Trump dance.
Gentlemen, you were asking about the history of the term “caps” for appearances. It dates to the earliest days of the game, back in the Victorian era when players usually just showed up in their work clothes: teams were often distinguished by wearing different coloured caps. I believe the first reference to caps is from Sheffield FC, in rules published in 1857 that required each player to bring a red and a blue cap to the game. As things developed, clubs and national teams started providing caps, and eventually it became custom & practice among some national teams to hand out actual hats even though that was no longer part of the uniform.