Fraud of the Century: The Election of President Hayes

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2014
  • Set in the centennial year of the United States, the 1876 Presidential election was one of the most dynamic and powerful elections in American history. Embroiled in claims of corruption and controversial legality, the contest between Rutherford B. Hayes and Samuel Tilden nearly sparked a civil war among political parties. The older, more politically experienced Tilden, received the popular vote and was known as an intellectual politician. However, it was Hayes, the more practical politician, who eventually took the oath of office, after an exhaustive recount of the electoral vote. The battle for the presidency of 1876 depleted Tilden's personal and political spirit and dampened Hayes' political reputation on both sides of the political aisle.
    Roy Morris Jr. is a former newspaper reporter and political writer. Morris was founding editor of America's Civil War for 13 years before assuming his current post as editor of Military Heritage in 2004. He has also served as a consultant for the A&E television network and the History Channel, and edited a three-book series for Purdue University Press on Civil War and post-Civil War history, culture, journalism and literature. Morris is also the author of six well-received books on 19th-Century American history and literature, including: Lighting Out for the Territory, The Long Pursuit, Fraud of the Century, The Better Angel; Ambrose Bierce, and Sheridan. His seventh book, Declaring His Genius, will be published by Harvard University Press in December 2012.

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  • @FlaglerMuseum
    @FlaglerMuseum  9 месяцев назад +1

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  • @GH-oi2jf
    @GH-oi2jf 4 года назад +15

    There is a book on this subject - Centennial Crisis: The Disputed Election of 1876 - by Chief Justice William Rehnquist. This is essential reading for anyone interested in the subject.

    • @pkneeno
      @pkneeno 9 месяцев назад

      Rehnquist's book is as I recall rather short compared to Morris's book. It's dry and colorless with a big emphasis on the role of the Supreme Court. Fraud of the Century is much more entertaining.

    • @MrThorfan64
      @MrThorfan64 5 месяцев назад

      Ironic, considering 2000...

  • @user-zy8cy6hn6o
    @user-zy8cy6hn6o 8 месяцев назад +1

    I wish he had included my favorite Tilden quote "I can retire to private life with the consciousness that I shall receive from posterity the credit of having been elected to the highest position in the gift of the people, without any of the cares and responsibilities of the office."

  • @m.s.769
    @m.s.769 8 лет назад +9

    Thanks for uploading this lecture. Very interesting.

  • @charlesmrader
    @charlesmrader 9 месяцев назад +5

    I have a minuscule connection to this story. It began when I bought a house in Concord Massachusetts, which had a history. It had originally been a schoolhouse, and was rented by Henry David Thoreau and his brother when they ran a school in Concord. One of Thoreau's students in that school was a boy named George Hoar. George Hoar grew up and became prominent, and was elected as a US Senator from Massachusetts, a Republican.
    When Congress needed to form a commission to investigate the disputed electoral votes in the Tilden vs Hayes election, it was obvious that the commission should be equally balanced between Republicans and Democrats, but it had to have an odd number of members so that it would be able to reach a decision.
    The powers that be decided that they needed a committee member who was a Republican but of such trustworthy character that he would put facts before party. That was Samuel Hoar. (But honest or not, he voted to give all the disputed the electoral votes to Hayes.)

    • @kokolanza7543
      @kokolanza7543 9 месяцев назад

      Seems like Tilden couldn't buy a break. 😟

    • @ChrisNoonetheFirst
      @ChrisNoonetheFirst 9 месяцев назад

      @@kokolanza7543 The Republicans had had total control over the government for 15 years at that point. No way they were gonna give up that golden goose.

    • @conman_co
      @conman_co 9 месяцев назад

      Interesting stuff

  • @jdpalm1981
    @jdpalm1981 3 года назад +16

    There needs to be a small budget film depicting this.

    • @richardmiranda640
      @richardmiranda640 9 месяцев назад

      This guy definitely has an ax to grind. I don’t appreciate his political bias.

    • @fishp4298
      @fishp4298 9 месяцев назад

      @@richardmiranda640yjbb is the b ggg gb

    • @81caspen
      @81caspen 9 месяцев назад

      @@richardmiranda640, can you provide some specific examples?

    • @81caspen
      @81caspen 9 месяцев назад

      @jdpalm1981: Sure, but why small budget particularly?

  • @douglasturner6153
    @douglasturner6153 9 месяцев назад +4

    "Rather B. Fraud" Hayes as they used to call him back in the day! 😂😅

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 9 месяцев назад

    I prefer to think that the 5 am pounding on the door was the ghost of
    whoever it was that was sent to inform Tilden he *wasn't* president after all.

  • @josephgrimes3886
    @josephgrimes3886 Год назад +6

    im reading gore vidals narratives of empire novels. 1876 is the third in the series and tells the story of the compromise through the eyes of fictional journo charlie schuyler, illegitimate son of aaron burr. brilliant historical novel

    • @randylayhe4279
      @randylayhe4279 10 месяцев назад +2

      Fiction. It’s historical fiction.

    • @timfrye3586
      @timfrye3586 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@randylayhe4279 yes, novels are fiction. He acknowledged that in his initial comment

    • @ChrisNoonetheFirst
      @ChrisNoonetheFirst 9 месяцев назад

      Burr is also a great Vidal book, I recommend

  • @2012photograph
    @2012photograph 9 месяцев назад

    Where Tilman house in NYC please give me address? Thank you in advance!!

  • @donofon1014
    @donofon1014 5 месяцев назад

    Possibly a good description of Lindsey Graham at 12:45

  • @mismakabel3342
    @mismakabel3342 Год назад +3

    The 1876 election was the closest election in the history of the United States since the electoral vote margin was a 1 vote victory margin since Rutherford Birchard Hayes won 185 electoral votes to Samuel Jones Tilden's 184 electoral votes.

    • @PalisadesParketeer
      @PalisadesParketeer 9 месяцев назад

      This is why when this speaker said "President Elect Tillden" was wrong. Electoral votes determine the winner. Not popular vote. Now there was rampant fraud on both sides of this election. And not sure if there can ever be a true winner in this election because of this fact. But the speaker here was incorrect saying "President elect Tillden".

  • @billtruthseekertaylor4576
    @billtruthseekertaylor4576 9 месяцев назад

    Obviously this book and this presentation was done years before the election of 2020. I would love to see some point by point comparison of the 1876 election and the 2020 election. I think the certification of electors by the respective state governors was key in each. I think Congress and the Supreme Court wanted be neutral as much as possible. It also seems to me to demonstrate that ‘paper ballots’ and ‘Election Day voting only’ are NOT ‘magic bullets’ to ensure election integrity.

    • @ChrisNoonetheFirst
      @ChrisNoonetheFirst 9 месяцев назад +2

      One thing is certain: Hayes didn't call the Secretary of State of Georgia up on the phone and threaten to throw him in prison if he didn't "find 11,780 votes (which is one more than we have)".

  • @dwoh4345
    @dwoh4345 3 года назад +2

    more rellevent then ever to know about this

  • @carolinecorman1716
    @carolinecorman1716 3 года назад +2

    I read a great book on this election. Tilden won.

    • @loganm2766
      @loganm2766 3 года назад

      Well it was overturned and Hayes won the next year.

  • @nicholasvogt7039
    @nicholasvogt7039 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow I've never heard of this election, i wonder why? Then i wonder why school doesn't teach you anything about anything these days. I wonder if my history teacher even knows about this?😔

    • @doddsino
      @doddsino 9 месяцев назад +2

      School curriculum wants to hit on about 5 or 6 topics, usually going from the American Revolution to the Civil War without talking about the events that led to the conflict.

    • @rudolphguarnacci197
      @rudolphguarnacci197 9 месяцев назад

      Your history teacher does not know about this.

    • @ShermTank7272
      @ShermTank7272 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@rudolphguarnacci197History teachers likely _do_ know about this, but because none of this info is on any of the standardized tests there's no point in teaching it

    • @rudolphguarnacci197
      @rudolphguarnacci197 9 месяцев назад

      @@ShermTank7272
      I wouldn't make that assumption.

  • @patmischel6883
    @patmischel6883 9 месяцев назад

    They should taken out Haues.

  • @EliteSpark-tf7kw
    @EliteSpark-tf7kw 4 года назад +6

    Tilden got robbed

  • @garcalej
    @garcalej 3 года назад +7

    Southern Democrats: You stole the election!!! Tyrant!
    Hayes: (whispers) Maybe I did. But I’ll give you all racist shit you want if you look the other way.
    Southern Democrats: Deal!!

  • @freeenergyeducationinterna1086
    @freeenergyeducationinterna1086 3 года назад

    34:00 Did you mean to predict the future?

  • @rekonizakilamilkshake8421
    @rekonizakilamilkshake8421 9 месяцев назад

    Student film released on beta Max 😅 it's the future.

  • @kellyaquinastom
    @kellyaquinastom 9 месяцев назад +2

    Start 22:00

  • @steftrando
    @steftrando 3 года назад

    360p? Really?

  • @ExtremelyRightWing
    @ExtremelyRightWing 9 месяцев назад +1

    602 lb woman? Whats Stacey Abrams got to do with it?

  • @mccalltrader
    @mccalltrader 9 месяцев назад +1

    Did you mean Brandon? Cuz you said Hayes..but it sounded like you may have meant Joe

  • @docastrov9013
    @docastrov9013 3 года назад +5

    History or futurology?

  • @mariehemp6197
    @mariehemp6197 2 года назад +5

    I thank you and appreciate your correct advice videos because history repeats itself in 2020

    • @psivil.disobedience
      @psivil.disobedience 10 месяцев назад +10

      Do you ever get the feeling you’re in a religion that revolves around Trump?

    • @doddsino
      @doddsino 9 месяцев назад +3

      Did it?

    • @marbleman52
      @marbleman52 9 месяцев назад

      @@psivil.disobedience...Do you ever get the feeling that you're in a cult that revolves around the Biden crime family and where CNN, MSNBC and other liberal news outlets control the narrative and where the FBI and the DOJ cover up and protect the Biden's from prosecution when clear evidence is available??

    • @apollofell3925
      @apollofell3925 9 месяцев назад

      It's relatively simple. Trump has fewer supporters

    • @zg-it
      @zg-it 9 месяцев назад

      ​​@@psivil.disobedienceworshipping the government is the new religion. That and pride. Just like any religion, there's different sects. The American Government Church that half the country votes for and the other half doesn't believe in has two major sects. The Republican and Democrat congregations. Recently, the Republican congregation had a lively preacher who called out the shameful behavior of the people leading this new couple hundred year old church. So the church leaders and their sponsors went crazy to tell everybody that they have to pick sides based on their morality. This religious fever led to a frenzy over the last three years while people have decided to display their religious beliefs with face coverings and through a Eucharist of medical inventions.
      Those of us who don't worship the state had to sit back in disbelief while our fellow-citizens went crazy over invisible demons and Rich bureaucrats. The psychopathic worshippers wouldn't let us unclean people even enjoy the sound of live music because we wouldn't pray into the Eucharist that was invented by the government.
      So keep trying to shame people who don't believe in the religious version of the government God that you believe in. It's going really well.

  • @ClarenceW.D.
    @ClarenceW.D. 9 месяцев назад +3

    It’s evident that this lecture was in 2013. Those were the last years of the Lost Causers. The running down of Grant makes that clear.

    • @ChrisNoonetheFirst
      @ChrisNoonetheFirst 9 месяцев назад +2

      Dunno about 2013 being their last years, Mitch McConnell and Marjorie Taylor Greene love their Stars-n-Bars

  • @user-yx9bs8zo5q
    @user-yx9bs8zo5q 9 месяцев назад +1

    Topped by the fraud of Brandon

    • @ChrisNoonetheFirst
      @ChrisNoonetheFirst 9 месяцев назад +1

      Biden won by 7 million votes. Get over it

    • @elijahFree2000
      @elijahFree2000 8 месяцев назад +1

      Tissue?

    • @chadk2525
      @chadk2525 Месяц назад

      @@elijahFree2000yo momma shoulda took the load on her chest.

  • @rubenjames7345
    @rubenjames7345 10 месяцев назад +1

    This guy is not exactly a stem winding orator ( first time I've ever used that phrase), but at least I didn't know anything about the topic.

  • @norm2322
    @norm2322 9 месяцев назад

    Interesting subject, one I'll pursue through the various books available on the subject. Unfortunately, the speaker made a compelling story boring and difficult to listen to. Out of frustration, I gave up after 25 minutes in.

  • @patrickharper9297
    @patrickharper9297 9 месяцев назад

    Gonna have to remake this with the Biden election

  • @ChrisNoonetheFirst
    @ChrisNoonetheFirst 9 месяцев назад

    The Union should have dissolved the Rebel states, not let them back in scot-free

  • @jeanfitzsimmons7442
    @jeanfitzsimmons7442 9 месяцев назад +4

    This could not be more appropriate in this era. I thought i grew up back when most Republicans honored their Oaths of Office, but many events, including this lecture have lead me to the more realistic conclusion that honorable Republicanism died as Lincolns murdered body cooled.

    • @doddsino
      @doddsino 9 месяцев назад +6

      To suggest that one party is less corrupt than the other only allows for both parties to remain corrupt.

    • @RandallMeals
      @RandallMeals 9 месяцев назад

      I take it that you are a giant fan of Woodrow Wilson and LBJ, for example.

    • @stephenyoung2742
      @stephenyoung2742 9 месяцев назад +1

      Nixon sabotoged the Nam peace talks to get elected! Reagan Iran hostage and Iran Contra! Trump help me Putin!@@RandallMeals

    • @kellicoffman8440
      @kellicoffman8440 7 месяцев назад

      Even as a republican I have to say you may just be right

    • @kellicoffman8440
      @kellicoffman8440 7 месяцев назад

      @@doddsino
      Sadly you are so right there’s corruption on both sides

  • @jefftube58
    @jefftube58 9 месяцев назад +1

    The speaker is entitled to his opinion about Grant's presidency but is not entitled to make it seem it is history.

  • @carlnoe2
    @carlnoe2 9 месяцев назад +1

    One wonders: if Al Gore had been as self-centered as Donald Trump, would the world be cool today? btw, fyi, Plummer was Canadian.

    • @ChrisNoonetheFirst
      @ChrisNoonetheFirst 9 месяцев назад

      No Iraq War if Gore wins, maybe no 9/11. Thanks Florida

  • @laurarivera5875
    @laurarivera5875 9 месяцев назад +3

    Excuse me. Have you ever heard of Joe Biden? Hayes was small potatoes compared to this

    • @andrewpierce1588
      @andrewpierce1588 9 месяцев назад

      Over 60 court case in multiple Jurisdictions found no evidence (even Trump leaning jurisdictions). See, the difference between the two cases you mention…one is chalk-full of evidence the other lost Fox News $2B and got a lot of other frauds thrown in jail.

    • @meesteropera
      @meesteropera 9 месяцев назад +1

      prove it

    • @ChrisNoonetheFirst
      @ChrisNoonetheFirst 9 месяцев назад

      Most popular president of all time, Joe Biden?

  • @brucenassar9077
    @brucenassar9077 9 месяцев назад +2

    you mean joe biden worst ever

  • @richardmiranda640
    @richardmiranda640 9 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder if this guy is a southern Democrat. I know he damn sure isn’t a southern Republican.

    • @WilliamFlickinger-ex2sd
      @WilliamFlickinger-ex2sd 9 месяцев назад +1

      Hays was from Ohio

    • @doddsino
      @doddsino 9 месяцев назад

      As for the guy giving the presentation, I don't think he has a political bias.
      Hayes becoming President provided us a poor leader who got nothing accomplished, and it led to the South becoming a nightmare for black people.

    • @ExtremelyRightWing
      @ExtremelyRightWing 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@doddsinoBut nowhere near the nightmare that the blacks became for the south

    • @christopherb9667
      @christopherb9667 6 месяцев назад

      As noted by Mr Morris, Congress had already voted to stop funding federal troop deployments in South Carolina and Louisiana, and troops were removed from Florida by the Grant administration. It is unlikely that a Democrat President would have reinstated them.

    • @christopherb9667
      @christopherb9667 6 месяцев назад

      I'm pretty sure he is. He mentioned his home state is Tennessee, and he suggests more than once that Al Gore was similarly denied the White House in 2000.

  • @chadk2525
    @chadk2525 Месяц назад

    Shady shit.