Just thought I'd add a bit to this after almost 600 miles on this bike. Nobby did a cracking revue. This is a very good value bike, it certainly has it's downsides. There is a juddering from the front brake, but it's not a huge issue, the forks are not great. The cadence sensor isn't as bad as Nobby makes out if you are in the correct gear, I've found it kicks in at around 2 seconds but it will be more if you try to pull away from a standstill above 3rd gear. If you live in an area with steep hills be prepared to keep changing break shoes, I'm on my second set, this may also be because I have it set up with pannier and other bags often full with tools, logs or my weekly shopping. If you are 6'1 you may struggle. I'm a fraction over 6' with size 12 feet and it's almost, but not quite, too tight to ride, that said once you get used to the upright position it's a really nice ride. I have really beasted this bike, overloaded it, had it airborne and taken it down a steep field at about 30mph...not all at once...the build quality is superb, it handles as well as my mountain bikes on the road. Like Nobby kept saying, it's a 600 quid bike...
Looks great, especially at that price. Any changes a person wants to make could easily be done over time and you would still come out ahead when compared to the price of most ebike's. Thanks for sharing
@Vespatim19 are you sure sweety, normally someone with a misguided sense of moral superiority while spewing out rage fuelled vulgaraties over something that is wholly avoidable would indicate deflection from a dark and dirty little secret. What's your secret Timothy???
luv it metal pedals great have three cycles not e bikes all metal pedals my thing 😀luv the channel don't always comment as for your kit review🤔 hats off i like free stuff 😀reviews always honest as i can see 👍
Great video. Considering getting one for myself but worried I am too tall. I'm 6'3" which is at the end of the recommended height range on their website. How tall are you? You mentioned it feeling a bit tight
I was looking for an entry-level e-bike for my wife to ride around the neighborhood, and this one looked interesting. I had a few questions, and you answered them all. I appreciate your detailed reviews of the pros and cons. Cheers.
Have you ever tried the kits you can put on regular bikes to make them an e-bike?….. I wondering how good they are? (Or do you just use the free stuff? 🤭)
I think it's time you stand up, say your name and admit you're an MTB bikepacking cyclist! Insta studio did the same thing with stitching my recordings. For some reason it thought I had the sticky lens covers on so I had to keep switching it off on the tab to the right.
All mudguards are plastic now mate. Under £600 is a good start. T-shirt is a winner but could attract scowls at the local scooter rally in Skeg or Morecambe. I never work on the assumption that price equates performance, that doesn't work for EV car owners who spent £30K plus only to find out their car is actually a mobile babecue lighter.
As for the bike £600 sounds a bit el cheapo to me I gotta Carrera Crossfuse/Halfords bike last year. That thing will do you for bike packing fully loaded 70 Mile range plus change easy. As long as you're sensible and pedal a lot and dont be a Lazy Focker all the time. But that was £2000 plus change once i'd put a decent saddle on it and added Rack/[panniers and a few other essentials. But i love that thing, it makes you feel fit again without having to lose weight or quit drinking or any of that healthy malarky. Maybe Halfords will read this and send you one?
I have a fat tyre Ebike mate that is more than man enough. The finish and build quality of this really isn't too shabby. More of a commuter than a bike packer tho
£600 IS cheap and it's certainly not going to be for everyone but there are people out there that this is just what they need or can afford. Someone with a commute like I do daily, for example, would have this thing pay for itself in 10 months on savings on bus fares alone and would need to charge it once a week if a 30 mile range is realistic. So if it lasted 12 months they'd be in pocket. Especially if they could get it on a cycle to work scheme. It could be the leg up someone on a low income needs so I certainly wouldn't dismiss it. If someone got a year or two regular use, it could be just the ticket for them. It's not for me, so I'll keep looking but your bike is 1 I've looked at.
@@Nobby77 I've got the Engwe E26 that you have on my short list. I'm just maybe a bit biased against the whole fat tyre thing. I'm 56 and it just has a sniff of late mid life crisis about it to be riding something that looks like a much younger person doing food delivery would be riding :) But then, the fat tyre is much less likely to end in me trying to fix a puncture by the side of the road at 23:00 at night on my way home from work (yeah, that was me last week on my 1 manpower mountain bike) so do I really care what it looks like? I could certainly live with the range and price. As for the delay on the power kicking in that seems to be a consistent problem with these cheaper cadence sensor bikes. I'm certainly no expert but I'm wondering if there maybe an aftermarket solution? I know that you can get sensors with more "pick ups" which apparently means they kick in quicker that are sold for conversion kits. I don't know if that's a possible fix but it certainly sounds feasible. Or if Engwe get enough feedback from the likes of yourself they may think it's a worthwhile improvement to their offer to spend a couple of extra quid in the factory. They do seem to listen and improve their products as time goes by. A torque sensor maybe too much to ask at that price, though.
@leecooper8589 I've just tried another of their bikes a mid drive torque sensor gravel/commuter. Massive range and a great ride. Review is out Wednesday but it really impressed me. They have a big range of bikes and so far I've been pleasantly surprised
If you get kit to review so what , if as a viewer you dont like that then dont watch , simple .If by reviewing kit it means a youtuber can keep the channel going then bonus, you dont have to watch it .
Theres an old Gary saying re Internet trolls Some people post comments and they can be mean But we never see there face appear on a screen. Mind you, describing yourself as a 'Man Mountain'? You're kinda asking for it.
I don't mind the trolls mate, they amuse me. He has since deleted all his comments and legged it, obviously isn't fun when their target couldn't give a monkey's
Hahahahaha…..that is quality mate 😂, THE best merch plug on Youube 100% love it!
I do try pmsl
Just thought I'd add a bit to this after almost 600 miles on this bike. Nobby did a cracking revue.
This is a very good value bike, it certainly has it's downsides. There is a juddering from the front brake, but it's not a huge issue, the forks are not great. The cadence sensor isn't as bad as Nobby makes out if you are in the correct gear, I've found it kicks in at around 2 seconds but it will be more if you try to pull away from a standstill above 3rd gear. If you live in an area with steep hills be prepared to keep changing break shoes, I'm on my second set, this may also be because I have it set up with pannier and other bags often full with tools, logs or my weekly shopping. If you are 6'1 you may struggle. I'm a fraction over 6' with size 12 feet and it's almost, but not quite, too tight to ride, that said once you get used to the upright position it's a really nice ride.
I have really beasted this bike, overloaded it, had it airborne and taken it down a steep field at about 30mph...not all at once...the build quality is superb, it handles as well as my mountain bikes on the road.
Like Nobby kept saying, it's a 600 quid bike...
Cheers Si, I'm glad you share my findings. Can't fault it for value. 600 miles is a decent amount of time to get the feel for it
That’s a bargin !!! Loving the E bike vids mate brilliant 🤙
Cheap alternative if anyone is looking
Looks great, especially at that price. Any changes a person wants to make could easily be done over time and you would still come out ahead when compared to the price of most ebike's. Thanks for sharing
Not bad at all for the money Saber, can't speak for it's longevity and it could do with a bit more room. Defo an option for a budget commuter tho
That was a great review. Thank you.
Cheers dude
Tim shirt ordered! Keep doing what you do mate, love the vids
Pmsl cheers mate, I'll be showing the other one on the next review. Send me a pic with the shirt on insta and I'll stick it in the vid rofl
Hope you are not suggesting you could profit off YT Timmy.
Selling like hot cakes and the fortune will be mine all mine mwahahahahahaha
@@Vespatim19 I have a suspicion there are far more immoral things about you Timmy
@Vespatim19 are you sure sweety, normally someone with a misguided sense of moral superiority while spewing out rage fuelled vulgaraties over something that is wholly avoidable would indicate deflection from a dark and dirty little secret. What's your secret Timothy???
luv it metal pedals great have three cycles not e bikes all metal pedals my thing 😀luv the channel don't always comment as for your kit review🤔 hats off i like free stuff 😀reviews always honest as i can see 👍
Cheers Hugh, can only say what you see mate. Never going to be technical masterclass lol. Metal pedals are a must tho
@@Nobby77 exactly metal pedals 👍
Great video. Considering getting one for myself but worried I am too tall. I'm 6'3" which is at the end of the recommended height range on their website. How tall are you? You mentioned it feeling a bit tight
I'm 5'10" on a good day.
For a couple of hundred quid extra the ENGWE L20 may be a better fit. I may have one coming in to review soon so watch this space
I was looking for an entry-level e-bike for my wife to ride around the neighborhood, and this one looked interesting. I had a few questions, and you answered them all. I appreciate your detailed reviews of the pros and cons. Cheers.
Cheers dude
Thanks for this!! Very helpful!
Your welcome
What a cool area,very relaxing.
It's a beautiful island Diane
Have you ever tried the kits you can put on regular bikes to make them an e-bike?….. I wondering how good they are? (Or do you just use the free stuff? 🤭)
No mate, I did look into fitting one to bendy Wendy to help with the hills but not really doable
Ideal bike for the "Tiny bike tour" ? A Plums safe ebike:)
Got to look after your plums
Hi, Just for a guide, how tall are you.
5'10" on a good day
I think it's time you stand up, say your name and admit you're an MTB bikepacking cyclist! Insta studio did the same thing with stitching my recordings. For some reason it thought I had the sticky lens covers on so I had to keep switching it off on the tab to the right.
Never pmsl
@@Nobby77 🤣🤣🤣
All mudguards are plastic now mate. Under £600 is a good start. T-shirt is a winner but could attract scowls at the local scooter rally in Skeg or Morecambe. I never work on the assumption that price equates performance, that doesn't work for EV car owners who spent £30K plus only to find out their car is actually a mobile babecue lighter.
Good starter for someone
Kinell ! That motorbike was nearly in your pocket !
Lol
As for the bike
£600 sounds a bit el cheapo to me
I gotta Carrera Crossfuse/Halfords bike last year.
That thing will do you for bike packing fully loaded 70 Mile range plus change easy.
As long as you're sensible and pedal a lot and dont be a Lazy Focker all the time.
But that was £2000 plus change once i'd put a decent saddle on it and added Rack/[panniers and a few other essentials.
But i love that thing, it makes you feel fit again without having to lose weight or quit drinking or any of that healthy malarky.
Maybe Halfords will read this and send you one?
I have a fat tyre Ebike mate that is more than man enough. The finish and build quality of this really isn't too shabby. More of a commuter than a bike packer tho
£600 IS cheap and it's certainly not going to be for everyone but there are people out there that this is just what they need or can afford. Someone with a commute like I do daily, for example, would have this thing pay for itself in 10 months on savings on bus fares alone and would need to charge it once a week if a 30 mile range is realistic. So if it lasted 12 months they'd be in pocket. Especially if they could get it on a cycle to work scheme. It could be the leg up someone on a low income needs so I certainly wouldn't dismiss it. If someone got a year or two regular use, it could be just the ticket for them. It's not for me, so I'll keep looking but your bike is 1 I've looked at.
@leecooper8589 hopefully I have a few more low budget bikes coming Lee
@@Nobby77 I've got the Engwe E26 that you have on my short list. I'm just maybe a bit biased against the whole fat tyre thing. I'm 56 and it just has a sniff of late mid life crisis about it to be riding something that looks like a much younger person doing food delivery would be riding :)
But then, the fat tyre is much less likely to end in me trying to fix a puncture by the side of the road at 23:00 at night on my way home from work (yeah, that was me last week on my 1 manpower mountain bike) so do I really care what it looks like? I could certainly live with the range and price. As for the delay on the power kicking in that seems to be a consistent problem with these cheaper cadence sensor bikes. I'm certainly no expert but I'm wondering if there maybe an aftermarket solution? I know that you can get sensors with more "pick ups" which apparently means they kick in quicker that are sold for conversion kits. I don't know if that's a possible fix but it certainly sounds feasible. Or if Engwe get enough feedback from the likes of yourself they may think it's a worthwhile improvement to their offer to spend a couple of extra quid in the factory. They do seem to listen and improve their products as time goes by. A torque sensor maybe too much to ask at that price, though.
@leecooper8589 I've just tried another of their bikes a mid drive torque sensor gravel/commuter. Massive range and a great ride. Review is out Wednesday but it really impressed me. They have a big range of bikes and so far I've been pleasantly surprised
Not much of a bike guy but an e bike would be interesting
Niether am I but they make it a lot less of a pain
Well some might say it was just a matter of time before Lee went cruising.
Stop it you biatch
At last a proper ebike test ,please please do a fold up ebike test for she who must be obayed...as she wants one ...
I have a folder due in this month I think
My knees would be happy...I'm out on a bike camp at moment..had to stop 7 miles in..scapular degeneration.
Not good mate
You ain’t no sell out ! You’re a Hooer 😂
A dirty one at that
Id have one...can't even afford it 😮😢😢😢
Things are tight ATM mate
If you get kit to review so what , if as a viewer you dont like that then dont watch , simple .If by reviewing kit it means a youtuber can keep the channel going then bonus, you dont have to watch it .
Thank you Robert, this is what a reasonable person sounds like pmsl.
Wish someone would give me stuff to try...Just ignore the haters
Greetings from across the pond. So, what you’re saying is, you’re sold out of all your shills?……..🤪🤣 There’s always a complainer.✌️🇺🇸🇬🇧✌️
Pmsl, you attract all sorts on here mate
Algorithm comment
(too hung over for a sensible comment)
The best sort of comment lol
Water running fast.
It is mate, loud as well
Looks wheelie food....
Good luck with that lol
Theres an old Gary saying re Internet trolls
Some people post comments and they can be mean
But we never see there face appear on a screen.
Mind you, describing yourself as a 'Man Mountain'?
You're kinda asking for it.
I don't mind the trolls mate, they amuse me. He has since deleted all his comments and legged it, obviously isn't fun when their target couldn't give a monkey's