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Jason, the West is basically a philosophy of Laws. It started with Hammurabi, then to the Laws of Moses and finally into Sharia Law. The East must have had established a system of man made Laws? Who started it and when?
Most of my life I thought there was something very wrong with me because I wasn't interested in taking part in "The Rat Race". I found myself isolated and even scorned for not being ambitious enough. When I looked at the prizes that society offered for participation, I was overwhelmed by the shallowness and insubstantiality of the rewards for being a "regular guy". I couldn't get excited about the things that most people did. I lost loved ones because of it, and I suffered from depression and anxiety as a result of it. Now I am an old man, and I am finally making peace with this world view. I have considered myself a Buddhist since my adolescence, and it has helped to keep me centered even through some major storms and emotional catastrophes. It was part of many Asian cultures that at a certain point, the householder, having done his familial duty, would go into the forest and follow the spiritual path. Perhaps my age is a blessing in disguise. I have come to see clearly just how hollow the things of the world really are, and now I just don't feel guilty about leaving it all behind.
Thank you for sharing your comment. I definitely understand where you are coming from. The worlds offerings are gut aches, fear and anxiety. No thank you on those prizes. Again, thanks for sharing.
This message rings true. One begins to realize that we occupy two worlds, the conditioned external world that feeds on conflict, debate and division and the internal world that has the capacity for such peace. It requires a choice and the external world can be like a magnet, pulling you down and very hard to resist. But if we choose to apply some of that "spiritual solvent" you describe (solitude/meditation), we return to the center within. It's not always easy but it's worth it. Thanks guys!
It's not wrong. Not the magnet has just the magic. Since a few months, my interest in the world had wanted by quite a bit, and I was pretty much fine with that, but then, it causes suffering for my family members. My parents, and other relatives, for some reason, just have to pull me towards the stories. It's annoying to have to live like that. All I can strive towards is to pretend to have an interest in the topics being discussed while on inside, I'm absolutely, completely disinterested.
I've noticed that whenever i view myself as an intellect, spiritual, sage and etc, my mind becomes rigid and tries to live up to that image thus making me really unhappy and neurotic in the process, so i've come to a conclusion that it's better not to have any kind of self-image at all.
I always enjoy the content. Thank you from a middle aged guy who never lived up to what my father told me to be. He was very controlling and religious. It may sound bad but I thank God every day that he died 22 years ago but I’m still trying to heal from the idea that I’m not good enough just because I didn’t want his life for me.
I am a member of this family, right now, my former acquaintances are accusing me of no longer caring, I said no, just that my energy no longer sustains the calls, the BETA state talks, I am in bliss, real bliss, I have attained union. Love and Light. in my world, there's no problem, I am in the flow.. with the Dao. Thank you soulmates.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor wao! so amazing, how can I have a direct call with you, if you don't mind. We seem to be having a similar experience. Iam truly grateful to listen to the podcast, it's like locating long-lost fam. hope u feel me.
Wow! This is exactly what I’ve been going through, especially in the last couple of years. I thought something was wrong with me because I was losing a lot of friends & family but it wasn’t bothering me like it used to. In fact, I enjoy being alone! Thanks so much guys! I love your channel!
This is insanely relevant to my life right now. Other people are uncomfortable with how little I care about current events, treat me like I'm stupid for not knowing all these talking points. It's bringing me back to anxiety and making me avoid everyone
This is exactly where I have been at the last few months. After practicing the yogic lifestyle for a little over a year the thing's of the world, my interest in socializing has simply fallen away. It's not a forced or decisive decision, they just fell away from my interest. Along with my ego being desolved when I began to see it for what it is. As I heard Sadhguru say " it's a lot of work holding up all of your drama every day isn't it!" This video only reinforces what I have experienced on my journey. I'm also in the west, in America and completely agree, the culture here is completely counter productive to spiritual liberation. It's also completely evident in the illness of society here. It's made me contemplate leaving for a country like India or somewhere in Asia.
This speaks to my soul . I must’ve been born in wrong country cause I’ve never studied these things however many things both said are things I’ve thought exactly of. Beautiful conversation here! awakening and spiritual journey was brutal, but necessary and I was willing to go through all the pain to understand what was happening to me. Western world doesn’t accept people like this yet. Except fir the ones who recognize the others on similar path. It’s a different plane-net
I'm from India and it's the western thought, science etc thats been taught in schools and reinforced in offices and is constantly expected of me that tires me out. But it sure feels easier to just let it all go and just be in this country than it would be in say Japan or America. But majorly urban India is/has embraced the western mind. And its sad to see some people struggle between these two worlds especially when so many major multi national companies and international schools setting up base here. It rather curious to see the Oriental countries embracing the Occidental way and at the same time that people from the Occident are becoming interested in Oriental thought and philosophy.
Thank you both for this dialogue. I have been witnessing self-inquiry or Advaita Vedanta for the past 6 years and this loss of interest in all you have been speaking about has become prevalent for myself. As another comment mentioned, I too had someone who accused me of cutting myself off from the world and not engaging in it. It was great to see this video appear. Thank you . Namaste
I quit!!. Wao!!, i have now listened to the end. Oh my world !!, the lady is a toast, the guy is a jade!. You guys appeared right on time to address the issue for me. You are so amazing. Love and light.
I’m appreciating your videos and podcasts! I was an unhappy, struggling Christian all my life, always feeling like there was something wrong with me. I’m eating up what you’re teaching, and had been watching MOOJI and Papaji years ago. So much to unlearn now!
For the last 2 years my spiritual journey has been quite a roller coaster. But now I'm in a place where I know what my happiness is and where can I find it - in the beauty of simple life. That's seriously all I want, live simply, grow my own food, maybe have some shop. LOVE. And these are things that I simply cannot explain to my parents who are deep in the game, they sure I have no direction in life, but just in the sense of I don't care about anything., though the things I care about are values,principles, and earth, and not things that are in the mundane. I still live with them, and they have their plans for me, I have my own, and it's so hard to commit to this journey when all the world around me try to take me in with them.
What a wonderful comment Roy. The simple life is way my friend. Many will not understand your life, but that is for them to be confused about. You'll live happy and content.
Great info jason , I been doing Meditation for 14 years in November, and I dont have any desire to define myself through ,people, places, or things . I'm not in a relationship, or have a social life, but I don't feel alone ,or lonely at all. This video hit home , thanks D
feels so nice to know that i´m not alone.. i have this feeling for a long time now and overtime i learned to live with it and also found inspiration and curiousity in the world again. so many people do not understand you, it becomes draining in the beginning. but it´s so worth it..
This is the perfect topic for the current state of the world. I admit that I have been trying to stay away from the vortex of mostly bad news out there, but I still get sucked back in at times. In the USA, I feel we have perfectly crafted tech/media which can be dangerous, addictive and toxic. It is good to see a channel with like minded people who are trying to walk the calm spiritual path in a world which looks like it just might be going a little crazy. Thank you
What a wonderful comment, Dave. You are spot on my friend. I wonder when the people will realize that the media and tech companies are driving them mad and causing all of the division in places like the US.
I consider shows like this to aid in my deprogramming and deepen my understanding. Your travels of the spirit show how simple culture's are so much more healthy and at peace.
Thank you both very much. This really was a freeing episode, I must say. I definitely need a hacksaw, lol. The world seems like a crab pot, if you try to get out, they will pull you back in if you let them. I'm still very new to all of this kind of thinking and trying to get the western ideas scrubbed from my mind. I keep having a sense of selfishness when I focus on my own journey and not bother myself with what's going on in the world. I have become a very stay at home kind of person and have had little desire to see people. Everyone calls me a hermit. I'm glad this sort of thing is normal in this perspective. Much love friends
@@JasonGregoryAuthor Thank you my friend. I'm in no hurry. I'm just chilling out on my porch listening to you two and getting educated on what this all really means. Much love
More input- more conflict. I have been socializing so much when I was married which drew to me so much of unnecessary and negative energies that after he passed, I took a huge step back. It was conflicting as to whether I need to socialize in the situation I might need them in the future and that alone is terrifying and energy draining. Trusting my spiritual growth has been a journey and remains a journey
I liken this to when I was a kid all my friends would talk about baseball, which I had no interest in, still don’t get sports, so I was left out of the conversation and it didn’t bother me at all and I just drifted away.
Watched already, but popped up again in the time when i really needed it, and maybe for the first time trully understood it. I am really grateful for the fruits of your work. Wish you all peaceful time in Tiruvannamalai 🇮🇳
Watching this discussion, I noticed the "light energy" and the "happy disposition". Made me smile and know it's the direction. Have a great present moment...
A very interesting topic. The more I advance in my spiritual journey, the less interest I have in this worldly superficiality. My gaze is more distant and I am more able to see the different tangents and artificial separations that human beings create. Your various podasts shine a light on this absurdity in a clever and understandable way. Looking forward to hearing from you again.
This is a great conversation! I’m so glad I found your channel. I wish I had friends like you two in real life to talk to about these sort of things-but this is just as good! Thank you!!
How interesting - she was willing to say that both culture have their drawbacks or pitfalls - the Eastern (that emphasizes the collective) and the Western (that emphasizes the individual). I liked that.
It seems that there is a limit to the 'just don't care' perspective. If one is in the middle of some natural or human-caused catastrophe that endangers oneself or harms one's loved ones it seem that the 'don't care' perspective might come up a bit short. Like being a Rwandan Tutsi in the middle of the Rwandan genocide, when one's family members are being slaughtered and one is either trying to protect them or trying to save one's own life... I get the 'just don't care' when it comes to getting all wound up about politics or other opinion-based matters - and I also get the 'just don't care' when it comes to the truly cosmic plane... But in day to day life, there are times when one cares a lot, and it doesn't make sense not to. I wish that point would have been addressed more fully.
I totally agree, you can care about others and be empathic without losing energy. I think relief workers in a natural disaster care what they are doing.
I would love to have a conversation with the two of you. It would go like this: we would be silent all the time because we would know we are on the same wave length. How wonderful it would be to have this silent conversation! You know what; we don't even have to meet up. Let's have this conversation right away! As from... now...
Always feels like I'm sharing time with treasured friends when I catch you both..... true, open minded, liberated ones at that. Keep on keeping on with the beauty of the message x
It's funny, I remember a conversation with my mom about 10 years ago or so where she asked me why I didn't really care that people got injured at some event due to a storm. I told her, what's the point? I don't know those people, they don't know me, what are they going to care how I feel about what happened to them. I know, it sucks what happened, but why should it affect me on a deep personal level? She couldn't really give me an answer to that question. Thank you for explaining that this is a natural side effect of the spiritual path, it has put certain things into context for me :). Even though I wasn't preoccupied with any spiritual notions at the time (especially after being fully done with Christianity) I see & understand now that I've been progressing on that path even without fully realizing it, going all the way back to being a young child.
I feel the same. Although I m just starting to learn more about letting my ego go. The first I did naturally was run away from conflicting friends and they’re issued. I felt a bit selfish but I didn’t add some else issues in my mind. Some how I felt Moore peaceful. Because I tent to be very emotional and emphatic that I care and feel their pain and turn it my own. So, I thought that I didn’t need to add more to my mind and spirit. So I thought that they can solve their problems and if they change the point of view they will overcome it. Was I being selfish or I was protecting myself. I don’t know I just know that I have calmness in me.
Fabulous talk, I find it so helpful to listen to both of you because your words literally bring me back to the Truth itself. This topic has been particularly hard for me to properly understand in the past. I have been one of those ppl that felt the need to have an opinion on everything and that has given me many a self-created a headache! But listening to both of you, I feel the Truth of your words soaking into my soul, I love it. Thank you so much 🙏🏽❤️
I felt a sadness at first at the level of sickness and that eventually turned to peace and not needing to overly engage I still have trouble with the word , " worldy" as being a judgement of a right or wrong as said by the Christian's who raised me . I am a westerner and am probably the rarity more then the common person here I have accepted that for now.
worldliness in the context used in eastern mysticism refers to the ''illusion of the conceptual world''; Maya. For eg, the term US Government is conceptual, it is created by the mind, everybody ''thinks'' it exists, so it exists, but in reality, there's no material entity you can touch and feel and call US Government. The same applies to the term ''story'' as used in the podcast. There are many stories, love stories, financial market stories, all kinds of negative, conceptual ideas floating, soaking, and suck us into illusory living. That's the hellfire. hope it helps.
I am a westerner formerly Christian. I know exactly how you feel when buzz words like, "worldly," or "God," are used. I always ask in my mind, what do they mean? The socialization we've had is deep. I'm having to deprogram myself daily. Meditation has helped immensely and Jason's channel has been so incredibly helpful in sorting out my journey. I hope you find as much help here, as I did. I'm so glad you have found your way here.
I fully relate to all these ideas. But, I wrestle with the notion of not taking some responsibility to help if you can. Especially in our immediate personal lives. I ask, how do we decipher between that and laziness? I like to help my family when I can. And I have also personally witnessed a lot of pain because some people have sat idle when others needed their help. Serious questions.
Yeah I'm letting go and releasing that which I am not as I'm following a more and more spiritual path and I'm realizing that I'm going down a path of becoming a modern day hermit. Not needing much of this world anymore. It's like I'm here but no longer of here.
Thanks! Fantastic podcast. I was looking for this one... very inspiring. Please keep this podcasts going... 🙏 from Canada 🇨🇦... Jai guru dev 🙏 knowledge from Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi: "TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. LET THE WORLD TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. SEE YOUR SELF. IF YOU ARE THE BODY THERE IS THE GROSS WORLD ALSO. IF YOU ARE SPIRIT ALL IS SPIRIT ALONE."
Jason...Wow, this detachment from the silly politics and artificial crisis produced by the news for commercial gains, got me in a world of trouble with friends and family. Laughing, i had people cloose to me trying to push my buttons to snap me out of it.😂 Well, I remained centered and on the path and surprisingly some even accepted my journey. Even my wife who was going crazy about my cutting of the puppet strings has stopped watching the news herself and has become less politically involved, without any coaxing from me. The only way people change is if they see someone else at peace, even when they fail at making them crack. Yes, I have lost some friends but some has stuck with me...It's their choice. I Finnally achieved peace. I have a long way to go in the spirtuality but I'm on the path and it's created so much peace I wont give it up for anything. Thanks Brother, you always are a barometer for my Journey.
What a lovely message. Thank you John. It is great to see your wife disengage from the noise to join you in peace. Peace is our nature, the noise is just vying for our attention to remain relevant. But, its just temporary noise.
I was always outside of society. Even outside my family. I had rememberence of where I came from before I incarnated here as a human being. I couldn't fit in no matter how hard I tried.
Good one! Remember as a child, being disinterested in the news on TV every night. Then wondering why the grown ups were all so obsessed with it, when it had no impact on our lives. Then perhaps, as we get older, feeling that we *should* be interested in this thing because it's part of being grown up. Maybe adults said to you "stop playing with toys, you need to grow up and take an interest in the news". What is that all about?
Thank you for another great talk! I enjoyed it and learned a lot from it. Since I’ve started on a spiritual path, I have lost interest in things I was previously interested in and it’s been surprising and liberating. Could you please explain a bit about how to reconcile doing good/helping others and losing interest in the world? E.g. when you witness unethical things or suffering happening in the world, it’s natural to want to help. Do you engage in ethical work in a manner that is dispassionate? As a spiritual person, is it ok to try to fight against political oppression if you can remain dispassionate?
I used to be extremely egocentric , my ego was my sense of security . Now, after studying standing meditation and Taoism , I’ve really lost interest in almost everything recently …. Finding it a bit scary . Is this death of the ego ?
I love this message and this episode. When someone asks me what I think about or what is my opinion about some worldly event i find myself not having an opinion about many worldly things, events. For example, someone asked me what do I think about gay marriage and my response was I don't. I don't have an opinion. Why? It is something I am not thinking about because at this point in my life I am tuning out everything that comes to me instead of tuning in. I'm minimalizing input in my life. Personally, I'm welcoming eastern philosophy, meditation practices in an effort to have peace.
Unplugging from The Matrix was the best thing I have ever done. Left the rat race 8 years ago and never been calmer. Recently dropped social media after 10 years and my anxiety has disappeared. It feels like I am the only one to have unplugged in my social circle though 😄
Hi Jason , love your guys work . Question - what was the other great Tao author that helps explain how we would live life following the way . A way to live and follow the Tao while being able to still manage life . I know you have spoken about him and mooji also mentions this path . Not Lao Tzu , I believe it starts with a D.
Great to hear from Brad. I think you might be referring to Zhuangzi maybe. The English pronunciation is like a J/D. I highly recommend the Complete Works of Zhuangzi, Burton Watson translation. An absolute essential text. Thank you do much my friend.
Jason - I am genuinely excited to dive in ! Saw that you had some content and I found the book . The organic pattern continues to take shape in South Florida ! Always grateful !
The development of a strong ego and conceptual way of life was part of evolution and was necessary but the time has come to grow beyond that. That path of development has a limitation and is horizantal but that does not take vertical means we have hit a ceiling. The limitation is expressed in a world where intellect created weapons of mass destruction which can destroy the civilization. So there is a time stamp and we do not have unlimited time. Unless we get to the higher level of evolution we will reach the end of the rope. Unfortunately the next step in evolution is not through intellect and the humanity is stuck. The usual tools that we are taught will not help to go beyond this.
Yeah silence is awesome. Uncle tries persuade me be more social ,go to church 👹👺and not in lone mountains so much. Just laugh and return to quiet inside dude 😆 everyone says…why don’t talk about Jesus 🤣. Society is so messed up, better to have little interest in many boring social things and awful talk/gossip. Get so damn tired with everyone trying to be cool and awesome and popular. I quit nonsense! 🕊🦋Easier , more energy being uncool sitting looking deep at mountain streams and lying in grass. These talks always come at a great time. Thanks guys. Love from Bernardo.
You're awesome brother. It far better to be uncool than to keep up with society. You'll only go mad that way. Better to stay up in the mountain brother. I hope to join you one day.
I have often wondered if the Western individualistic mentality comes from the fact that westerners tend to look more individualist. They are the only people that have a wide range of skin tones, hair and eye colours ect when compared to other people's.
Are you a „ fan/follower“ or whatever you wanna call it, of Sadhguru. He gives me Alan what’s vibes of how he explains things and how he acts ( personality)
He who speaks does not know..... Should we hold off teaching until we are authentically awakened or should we teach to the best of our ability allows. ?
Great to hear from you Don. Yes, we are both speaking from experience. But to explain it further is a little long for a simple comment. So glad you enjoyed my friend.
be here now do no harm help others be still close eyes listen to your breathing self liberate by present awareness. book recommend: TAO TE CHING/d.c.lau. google english/chinese text at TAOISM.NET. also THE BRIEF RULE OF SAINT ROMUALD.
everything that has created has to be or will be destroyed in an instance or slowly....even the almighty has to destroyed the universe he created...and creation is only adding energy to the stable or inert...
@@JasonGregoryAuthor thanks for ur reply. Wonder if there are videos on how both of u come to know Tao, impact of Tao on both of u, what are the key Tao practices that both of u choose to do and NOT DO and why etc? Haha, would be curious to know how has Tao influence both ur dating and martial decision, if don't mind sharing :)
You have a RUclips channel and are conducting an interview for all the world to see. You want me to click subscribe. How is that losing interest in the world?
Hi Marilyn. You don't have to click subscribe. That is up to you. RUclips have an option for subscribing and also viewing. You don't have to do either. I don't know you and you are a stranger so I respect you obviously. Hopefully that respect is mutual as this is our first interaction. If you respect the work and are serious about Eastern spirituality, which we can speak objectively about as adults, then please enjoy the content.
Whenever I show someone my writing, they say that I should write a book and become an author, although my dream is not to be physically richer, so it had hindered my ambition on writing and created a distance between me and writing for a while. I had just wanted to write books as it feels good and I enjoy watching people smile as they enjoy some good literature. I had dreamt of writing books and making the world richer, though the thought of making a profit had made me feel hollow, now writing this, I realize that others whom make money are probably in the same boat and others in the opposite boat. To gain is to lose, to lose is to gain, in the end of the begging, and the begging of the end, whom am I to say that gaining money from books would cause me suffering? If one buys a book, with the money that made them suffer, I believe and feel it inside that it would remove the suffering caused by attachment. In all fairness, I do have some money that causes me great happiness inside and makes me happy whenever I stare at it for even a brief moment, as it was given by people that I dearly love and respect, its no longer money to me. If I had stumbled upon a million dollars, would it make me happy? It would make me happier to find out whom had lost the large sum of money as it means nothing to me, but somebody else's suffering, though I would happily accept a million dollars if it had meant that it would remove the suffering from somebody whom has too much and scatter it. I admire trees, and bushes, they are rich and at the same time happy as they shed their wealth and share it, you are like a bed of soil. Speaking of so, what's your favorite version or versions The Way? any other suggestions ok books to read would be appreciated too.
Yeah I'm letting go and releasing that which I am not as I'm following a more and more spiritual path and I'm realizing that I'm going down a path of becoming a modern day hermit. Not needing much of this world anymore. It's like I'm here but no longer of here.
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Jason, the West is basically a philosophy of Laws. It started with Hammurabi, then to the Laws of Moses and finally into Sharia Law. The East must have had established a system of man made Laws? Who started it and when?
Most of my life I thought there was something very wrong with me because I wasn't interested in taking part in "The Rat Race". I found myself isolated and even scorned for not being ambitious enough. When I looked at the prizes that society offered for participation, I was overwhelmed by the shallowness and insubstantiality of the rewards for being a "regular guy". I couldn't get excited about the things that most people did. I lost loved ones because of it, and I suffered from depression and anxiety as a result of it. Now I am an old man, and I am finally making peace with this world view. I have considered myself a Buddhist since my adolescence, and it has helped to keep me centered even through some major storms and emotional catastrophes. It was part of many Asian cultures that at a certain point, the householder, having done his familial duty, would go into the forest and follow the spiritual path. Perhaps my age is a blessing in disguise. I have come to see clearly just how hollow the things of the world really are, and now I just don't feel guilty about leaving it all behind.
Thank you for your wonderful comment my friend. Nothing wrong with being who you naturally are.
Keep up the good work. It is fascinating and much appreciated!
Thank you so much for sharing. It is truly touching and gives inspiration to all that are trying to disconnect from a toxic society.
@@rebeccab6791 I hope it is helpful, and that young people will not have to go through what I have!
Thank you for sharing your comment. I definitely understand where you are coming from.
The worlds offerings are gut aches, fear and anxiety. No thank you on those prizes. Again, thanks for sharing.
This message rings true. One begins to realize that we occupy two worlds, the conditioned external world that feeds on conflict, debate and division and the internal world that has the capacity for such peace. It requires a choice and the external world can be like a magnet, pulling you down and very hard to resist. But if we choose to apply some of that "spiritual solvent" you describe (solitude/meditation), we return to the center within. It's not always easy but it's worth it. Thanks guys!
Yes, there are two worlds! And many are unaware.
Well said Tobin/C. Great to hear from you.
It's not wrong. Not the magnet has just the magic. Since a few months, my interest in the world had wanted by quite a bit, and I was pretty much fine with that, but then, it causes suffering for my family members. My parents, and other relatives, for some reason, just have to pull me towards the stories. It's annoying to have to live like that. All I can strive towards is to pretend to have an interest in the topics being discussed while on inside, I'm absolutely, completely disinterested.
Yes I agree
I've noticed that whenever i view myself as an intellect, spiritual, sage and etc, my mind becomes rigid and tries to live up to that image thus making me really unhappy and neurotic in the process, so i've come to a conclusion that it's better not to have any kind of self-image at all.
Well said Al. I have a few videos on the problem with self-image in my video library that I feel you will enjoy.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor thanks Jason! I'll definitely check them out.
Exactly my experience! It's so hard to do though sometimes
@@anweshakar146 i know. Especially since we're living in society.
@@Gadasaa For me, it's mostly internal. I keep comparing myself to other people and what they're doing.
I always enjoy the content. Thank you from a middle aged guy who never lived up to what my father told me to be. He was very controlling and religious. It may sound bad but I thank God every day that he died 22 years ago but I’m still trying to heal from the idea that I’m not good enough just because I didn’t want his life for me.
I am a member of this family, right now, my former acquaintances are accusing me of no longer caring, I said no, just that my energy no longer sustains the calls, the BETA state talks, I am in bliss, real bliss, I have attained union. Love and Light. in my world, there's no problem, I am in the flow.. with the Dao. Thank you soulmates.
Thank you my dear friend. Only love for you.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor Please are you the one interviewing the lady ?
Yes, that is me. My cohost is my wife.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor wao! so amazing, how can I have a direct call with you, if you don't mind. We seem to be having a similar experience. Iam truly grateful to listen to the podcast, it's like locating long-lost fam. hope u feel me.
Wow! This is exactly what I’ve been going through, especially in the last couple of years. I thought something was wrong with me because I was losing a lot of friends & family but it wasn’t bothering me like it used to. In fact, I enjoy being alone! Thanks so much guys! I love your channel!
Thank you for your wonderful comment Sheila. Nothing wrong with you my friend.
I thought there was something wrong with me too! I very much enjoy being alone. Thank you for sharing.
This is insanely relevant to my life right now. Other people are uncomfortable with how little I care about current events, treat me like I'm stupid for not knowing all these talking points. It's bringing me back to anxiety and making me avoid everyone
Thank you for sharing Aideen. I'm so glad the podcast was helpful.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor you guys are always helpful, really appreciate your videos
Our world has Almost perfected the art of division. Only thru quietly observing and discerning and becoming emotionally detached have I found peace...
This is exactly where I have been at the last few months. After practicing the yogic lifestyle for a little over a year the thing's of the world, my interest in socializing has simply fallen away. It's not a forced or decisive decision, they just fell away from my interest. Along with my ego being desolved when I began to see it for what it is. As I heard Sadhguru say " it's a lot of work holding up all of your drama every day isn't it!" This video only reinforces what I have experienced on my journey. I'm also in the west, in America and completely agree, the culture here is completely counter productive to spiritual liberation. It's also completely evident in the illness of society here. It's made me contemplate leaving for a country like India or somewhere in Asia.
This speaks to my soul . I must’ve been born in wrong country cause I’ve never studied these things however many things both said are things I’ve thought exactly of. Beautiful conversation here! awakening and spiritual journey was brutal, but necessary and I was willing to go through all the pain to understand what was happening to me. Western world doesn’t accept people like this yet. Except fir the ones who recognize the others on similar path. It’s a different plane-net
It sure is a different planet my friend. I'm so glad you found my channel.
I'm from India and it's the western thought, science etc thats been taught in schools and reinforced in offices and is constantly expected of me that tires me out. But it sure feels easier to just let it all go and just be in this country than it would be in say Japan or America. But majorly urban India is/has embraced the western mind. And its sad to see some people struggle between these two worlds especially when so many major multi national companies and international schools setting up base here. It rather curious to see the Oriental countries embracing the Occidental way and at the same time that people from the Occident are becoming interested in Oriental thought and philosophy.
Thank you both for this dialogue. I have been witnessing self-inquiry or Advaita Vedanta for the past 6 years and this loss of interest in all you have been speaking about has become prevalent for myself. As another comment mentioned, I too had someone who accused me of cutting myself off from the world and not engaging in it. It was great to see this video appear. Thank you . Namaste
I quit!!. Wao!!, i have now listened to the end. Oh my world !!, the lady is a toast, the guy is a jade!. You guys appeared right on time to address the issue for me. You are so amazing. Love and light.
I’m appreciating your videos and podcasts! I was an unhappy, struggling Christian all my life, always feeling like there was something wrong with me. I’m eating up what you’re teaching, and had been watching MOOJI and Papaji years ago. So much to unlearn now!
For the last 2 years my spiritual journey has been quite a roller coaster. But now I'm in a place where I know what my happiness is and where can I find it - in the beauty of simple life. That's seriously all I want, live simply, grow my own food, maybe have some shop. LOVE. And these are things that I simply cannot explain to my parents who are deep in the game, they sure I have no direction in life, but just in the sense of I don't care about anything., though the things I care about are values,principles, and earth, and not things that are in the mundane. I still live with them, and they have their plans for me, I have my own, and it's so hard to commit to this journey when all the world around me try to take me in with them.
What a wonderful comment Roy. The simple life is way my friend. Many will not understand your life, but that is for them to be confused about. You'll live happy and content.
Great info jason , I been doing Meditation for 14 years in November, and I dont have any desire to define myself through ,people, places, or things . I'm not in a relationship, or have a social life, but I don't feel alone ,or lonely at all. This video hit home , thanks D
Well said, Darrell. It is amazing how the deeper we go the less alone we actually feel.
feels so nice to know that i´m not alone.. i have this feeling for a long time now and overtime i learned to live with it and also found inspiration and curiousity in the world again. so many people do not understand you, it becomes draining in the beginning. but it´s so worth it..
This is the perfect topic for the current state of the world. I admit that I have been trying to stay away from the vortex of mostly bad news out there, but I still get sucked back in at times. In the USA, I feel we have perfectly crafted tech/media which can be dangerous, addictive and toxic. It is good to see a channel with like minded people who are trying to walk the calm spiritual path in a world which looks like it just might be going a little crazy. Thank you
What a wonderful comment, Dave. You are spot on my friend. I wonder when the people will realize that the media and tech companies are driving them mad and causing all of the division in places like the US.
I consider shows like this to aid in my deprogramming and deepen my understanding. Your travels of the spirit show how simple culture's are so much more healthy and at peace.
I think if I would have watched this a year ago, I would have been able to save my relationship. Thank you, both. A lot has been learned.
The sense of knowing you did the right thing...that is freedom!
Thank you both very much. This really was a freeing episode, I must say. I definitely need a hacksaw, lol. The world seems like a crab pot, if you try to get out, they will pull you back in if you let them. I'm still very new to all of this kind of thinking and trying to get the western ideas scrubbed from my mind. I keep having a sense of selfishness when I focus on my own journey and not bother myself with what's going on in the world. I have become a very stay at home kind of person and have had little desire to see people. Everyone calls me a hermit. I'm glad this sort of thing is normal in this perspective. Much love friends
Thank you for your wonderful comment, Heather. Nothing wrong with being a hermit. Also, I will get to your comments and messages on Patreon soon.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor Thank you my friend. I'm in no hurry. I'm just chilling out on my porch listening to you two and getting educated on what this all really means. Much love
More input- more conflict. I have been socializing so much when I was married which drew to me so much of unnecessary and negative energies that after he passed, I took a huge step back. It was conflicting as to whether I need to socialize in the situation I might need them in the future and that alone is terrifying and energy draining. Trusting my spiritual growth has been a journey and remains a journey
I liken this to when I was a kid all my friends would talk about baseball, which I had no interest in, still don’t get sports, so I was left out of the conversation and it didn’t bother me at all and I just drifted away.
Watched already, but popped up again in the time when i really needed it, and maybe for the first time trully understood it. I am really grateful for the fruits of your work.
Wish you all peaceful time in Tiruvannamalai 🇮🇳
Watching this discussion, I noticed the "light energy" and the "happy disposition". Made me smile and know it's the direction. Have a great present moment...
A very interesting topic. The more I advance in my spiritual journey, the less interest I have in this worldly superficiality. My gaze is more distant and I am more able to see the different tangents and artificial separations that human beings create. Your various podasts shine a light on this absurdity in a clever and understandable way. Looking forward to hearing from you again.
Thank you for your amazing comment, Miss Zen. I always appreciate hearing from you. You hit the nail on the head here.
This is a great conversation! I’m so glad I found your channel. I wish I had friends like you two in real life to talk to about these sort of things-but this is just as good! Thank you!!
Thank you for your wonderful comment, Lindsey. We are so happy to share with you my friend.
How interesting - she was willing to say that both culture have their drawbacks or pitfalls - the Eastern (that emphasizes the collective) and the Western (that emphasizes the individual). I liked that.
As usual your podcasts arrived just in time, thank you very much
Thank you for watching Hector. I appreciate you my friend.
It seems that there is a limit to the 'just don't care' perspective. If one is in the middle of some natural or human-caused catastrophe that endangers oneself or harms one's loved ones it seem that the 'don't care' perspective might come up a bit short. Like being a Rwandan Tutsi in the middle of the Rwandan genocide, when one's family members are being slaughtered and one is either trying to protect them or trying to save one's own life... I get the 'just don't care' when it comes to getting all wound up about politics or other opinion-based matters - and I also get the 'just don't care' when it comes to the truly cosmic plane... But in day to day life, there are times when one cares a lot, and it doesn't make sense not to. I wish that point would have been addressed more fully.
I totally agree, you can care about others and be empathic without losing energy. I think relief workers in a natural disaster care what they are doing.
I would love to have a conversation with the two of you. It would go like this: we would be silent all the time because we would know we are on the same wave length. How wonderful it would be to have this silent conversation! You know what; we don't even have to meet up. Let's have this conversation right away! As from... now...
Haha, love it Bart. Always great to hear from you my friend.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor let me thank you for the great chat we had!
I’m definitely finding this myself ❤️🙏🏻.
Always feels like I'm sharing time with treasured friends when I catch you both..... true, open minded, liberated ones at that. Keep on keeping on with the beauty of the message x
Thank you for your wonderful message my friend. We appreciate you.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor as always x
Love you, sister and brother.
You speak to my soul.
Namaste.
Love you too my friend. Shanti.
This is a society of cooperation. To be attached to withdrawal and self-isolation is not the way of Tao ;) Greetings
It's funny, I remember a conversation with my mom about 10 years ago or so where she asked me why I didn't really care that people got injured at some event due to a storm. I told her, what's the point? I don't know those people, they don't know me, what are they going to care how I feel about what happened to them. I know, it sucks what happened, but why should it affect me on a deep personal level?
She couldn't really give me an answer to that question.
Thank you for explaining that this is a natural side effect of the spiritual path, it has put certain things into context for me :). Even though I wasn't preoccupied with any spiritual notions at the time (especially after being fully done with Christianity) I see & understand now that I've been progressing on that path even without fully realizing it, going all the way back to being a young child.
Stay tuned for your program .
I feel the same. Although I m just starting to learn more about letting my ego go. The first I did naturally was run away from conflicting friends and they’re issued. I felt a bit selfish but I didn’t add some else issues in my mind. Some how I felt Moore peaceful. Because I tent to be very emotional and emphatic that I care and feel their pain and turn it my own.
So, I thought that I didn’t need to add more to my mind and spirit. So I thought that they can solve their problems and if they change the point of view they will overcome it.
Was I being selfish or I was protecting myself. I don’t know I just know that I have calmness in me.
Same!
The Tao always repeats itself!
Thank you!
Fabulous talk, I find it so helpful to listen to both of you because your words literally bring me back to the Truth itself. This topic has been particularly hard for me to properly understand in the past. I have been one of those ppl that felt the need to have an opinion on everything and that has given me many a self-created a headache! But listening to both of you, I feel the Truth of your words soaking into my soul, I love it. Thank you so much 🙏🏽❤️
Wow, thank you Jeevaka. It means a lot to us my dear friend.
Thank you your videos bring me peace ✌ and when I think of the dao my mind clears shanty shanty shanty
I love this channel! thank you so much!
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I felt a sadness at first at the level of sickness and that eventually turned to peace and not needing to overly engage I still have trouble with the word , " worldy" as being a judgement of a right or wrong as said by the Christian's who raised me . I am a westerner and am probably the rarity more then the common person here I have accepted that for now.
worldliness in the context used in eastern mysticism refers to the ''illusion of the conceptual world''; Maya. For eg, the term US Government is conceptual, it is created by the mind, everybody ''thinks'' it exists, so it exists, but in reality, there's no material entity you can touch and feel and call US Government. The same applies to the term ''story'' as used in the podcast. There are many stories, love stories, financial market stories, all kinds of negative, conceptual ideas floating, soaking, and suck us into illusory living. That's the hellfire. hope it helps.
I am a westerner formerly Christian. I know exactly how you feel when buzz words like, "worldly," or "God," are used. I always ask in my mind, what do they mean? The socialization we've had is deep. I'm having to deprogram myself daily. Meditation has helped immensely and Jason's channel has been so incredibly helpful in sorting out my journey. I hope you find as much help here, as I did. I'm so glad you have found your way here.
@@HeatherRuffniteowl Hi Ruff... so nice to hear about your experience, hope u dnt mind sharing more...
I fully relate to all these ideas. But, I wrestle with the notion of not taking some responsibility to help if you can. Especially in our immediate personal lives. I ask, how do we decipher between that and laziness? I like to help my family when I can. And I have also personally witnessed a lot of pain because some people have sat idle when others needed their help. Serious questions.
Thank you for This topic.. i was wondering if i had a problem, because i feel this to. And i am so glad i came across this channel!
You have no problem, Valerie. I am so happy you found my channel.
Enjoyed this weeks talk you both have a good week/looking forward to the next one
Thank you my friend. Looking forward to sharing with you next week.
Yeah I'm letting go and releasing that which I am not as I'm following a more and more spiritual path and I'm realizing that I'm going down a path of becoming a modern day hermit. Not needing much of this world anymore. It's like I'm here but no longer of here.
Thank u so much for this 🙏🏾❤💫🌟☀️
Brilliant. Thank you
Just want to add for others that disinterest comes with mind so keep going, not there yet.
Really fantastic episode. I need to limit phone time on myself.
U guys are rocking it. No heavy energy here
Thanks! Fantastic podcast. I was looking for this one... very inspiring. Please keep this podcasts going... 🙏 from Canada 🇨🇦... Jai guru dev 🙏 knowledge from Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi: "TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. LET THE WORLD TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. SEE YOUR SELF. IF YOU ARE THE BODY THERE IS THE GROSS WORLD ALSO. IF YOU ARE SPIRIT ALL IS SPIRIT ALONE."
Thank you so much for your kind words and support, my dear friend.
Jason...Wow, this detachment from the silly politics and artificial crisis produced by the news for commercial gains, got me in a world of trouble with friends and family. Laughing, i had people cloose to me trying to push my buttons to snap me out of it.😂 Well, I remained centered and on the path and surprisingly some even accepted my journey. Even my wife who was going crazy about my cutting of the puppet strings has stopped watching the news herself and has become less politically involved, without any coaxing from me. The only way people change is if they see someone else at peace, even when they fail at making them crack. Yes, I have lost some friends but some has stuck with me...It's their choice. I Finnally achieved peace. I have a long way to go in the spirtuality but I'm on the path and it's created so much peace I wont give it up for anything. Thanks Brother, you always are a barometer for my Journey.
What a lovely message. Thank you John. It is great to see your wife disengage from the noise to join you in peace. Peace is our nature, the noise is just vying for our attention to remain relevant. But, its just temporary noise.
I was always outside of society. Even outside my family. I had rememberence of where I came from before I incarnated here as a human being. I couldn't fit in no matter how hard I tried.
Loved this. Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you Rusty.
Good one! Remember as a child, being disinterested in the news on TV every night. Then wondering why the grown ups were all so obsessed with it, when it had no impact on our lives. Then perhaps, as we get older, feeling that we *should* be interested in this thing because it's part of being grown up. Maybe adults said to you "stop playing with toys, you need to grow up and take an interest in the news". What is that all about?
Well said Brian. Thankfully, I am still the disinterest kid haha. I bet you are too.
No child is interested in the news
True wisdom!
Love the message
Thank you for another great talk! I enjoyed it and learned a lot from it. Since I’ve started on a spiritual path, I have lost interest in things I was previously interested in and it’s been surprising and liberating.
Could you please explain a bit about how to reconcile doing good/helping others and losing interest in the world? E.g. when you witness unethical things or suffering happening in the world, it’s natural to want to help. Do you engage in ethical work in a manner that is dispassionate? As a spiritual person, is it ok to try to fight against political oppression if you can remain dispassionate?
good medicine. I feel it. ty
I used to be extremely egocentric , my ego was my sense of security . Now, after studying standing meditation and Taoism , I’ve really lost interest in almost everything recently …. Finding it a bit scary . Is this death of the ego ?
Yes it's the transition. You will come out of this space a more balanced and spiritual person than before.
That was great, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it my friend.
Nice job guys thanks!!
Thank you Mariano.
I love this message and this episode. When someone asks me what I think about or what is my opinion about some worldly event i find myself not having an opinion about many worldly things, events. For example, someone asked me what do I think about gay marriage and my response was I don't. I don't have an opinion. Why? It is something I am not thinking about because at this point in my life I am tuning out everything that comes to me instead of tuning in. I'm minimalizing input in my life. Personally, I'm welcoming eastern philosophy, meditation practices in an effort to have peace.
What an amazing comment. Thank you my dear friend.
Turn ye, and Live.
incredibe talk.
Thank you dearly Kash
Unplugging from The Matrix was the best thing I have ever done. Left the rat race 8 years ago and never been calmer. Recently dropped social media after 10 years and my anxiety has disappeared. It feels like I am the only one to have unplugged in my social circle though 😄
Love it, Andrew. Thnak you for sharing my friend.
My pleasure Jason 🙏
Hi Jason , love your guys work . Question - what was the other great Tao author that helps explain how we would live life following the way . A way to live and follow the Tao while being able to still manage life . I know you have spoken about him and mooji also mentions this path . Not Lao Tzu , I believe it starts with a D.
Great to hear from Brad. I think you might be referring to Zhuangzi maybe. The English pronunciation is like a J/D. I highly recommend the Complete Works of Zhuangzi, Burton Watson translation. An absolute essential text. Thank you do much my friend.
Jason - I am genuinely excited to dive in !
Saw that you had some content and I found the book . The organic pattern continues to take shape in South Florida !
Always grateful !
Keep up the good work ❤️👍🌎
Thank you, Alexander.
Thank you
Thank you my friend.
When I consider how I feel about the world, one word comes to mind -uninterested.
Wonderful conversation 👌🏻 🥰💖🧠💖🧠👑👑🎶🍎🍎
The development of a strong ego and conceptual way of life was part of evolution and was necessary but the time has come to grow beyond that. That path of development has a limitation and is horizantal but that does not take vertical means we have hit a ceiling. The limitation is expressed in a world where intellect created weapons of mass destruction which can destroy the civilization. So there is a time stamp and we do not have unlimited time. Unless we get to the higher level of evolution we will reach the end of the rope. Unfortunately the next step in evolution is not through intellect and the humanity is stuck. The usual tools that we are taught will not help to go beyond this.
If you follow the guru Paramahamsa Yogananda you would understand by now that it is not Kaliyuga it is dwaparayuga. Read autobiography of a yogi? 🌙🙏🏼
Jason, who is the young woman you are discussing this with?
Gayoung, my wife.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor She is very insightful. You are a lucky man! ;-)
Yeah silence is awesome. Uncle tries persuade me be more social ,go to church 👹👺and not in lone mountains so much. Just laugh and return to quiet inside dude 😆 everyone says…why don’t talk about Jesus 🤣. Society is so messed up, better to have little interest in many boring social things and awful talk/gossip. Get so damn tired with everyone trying to be cool and awesome and popular. I quit nonsense! 🕊🦋Easier , more energy being uncool sitting looking deep at mountain streams and lying in grass. These talks always come at a great time. Thanks guys. Love from Bernardo.
You're awesome brother. It far better to be uncool than to keep up with society. You'll only go mad that way. Better to stay up in the mountain brother. I hope to join you one day.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor yes - see u one day in this place of mountains👍😁
I have often wondered if the Western individualistic mentality comes from the fact that westerners tend to look more individualist. They are the only people that have a wide range of skin tones, hair and eye colours ect when compared to other people's.
Are you a „ fan/follower“ or whatever you wanna call it, of Sadhguru. He gives me Alan what’s vibes of how he explains things and how he acts ( personality)
An Aussie going to India reminds me of the book shantaram 😂
He who speaks does not know..... Should we hold off teaching until we are authentically awakened or should we teach to the best of our ability allows. ?
Selflessness and oneness is morality. Selfishness and individuality is immorality.
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are you speaking from experience? what has your experience been? you sound like you are on the outside looking in.
Great to hear from you Don. Yes, we are both speaking from experience. But to explain it further is a little long for a simple comment. So glad you enjoyed my friend.
Doing, not doing.
be here now do no harm help others be still close eyes listen to your breathing self liberate by present awareness. book recommend: TAO TE CHING/d.c.lau. google english/chinese text at TAOISM.NET. also THE BRIEF RULE OF SAINT ROMUALD.
everything that has created has to be or will be destroyed in an instance or slowly....even the almighty has to destroyed the universe he created...and creation is only adding energy to the stable or inert...
Who is this Chinese lady? :)
She is Korean and she is my wife.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor thanks for ur reply. Wonder if there are videos on how both of u come to know Tao, impact of Tao on both of u, what are the key Tao practices that both of u choose to do and NOT DO and why etc?
Haha, would be curious to know how has Tao influence both ur dating and martial decision, if don't mind sharing :)
You have a RUclips channel and are conducting an interview for all the world to see. You want me to click subscribe. How is that losing interest in the world?
Hi Marilyn. You don't have to click subscribe. That is up to you. RUclips have an option for subscribing and also viewing. You don't have to do either. I don't know you and you are a stranger so I respect you obviously. Hopefully that respect is mutual as this is our first interaction. If you respect the work and are serious about Eastern spirituality, which we can speak objectively about as adults, then please enjoy the content.
🌏 = 🐂💩×💩
E=bs^2
Whenever I show someone my writing, they say that I should write a book and become an author, although my dream is not to be physically richer, so it had hindered my ambition on writing and created a distance between me and writing for a while. I had just wanted to write books as it feels good and I enjoy watching people smile as they enjoy some good literature. I had dreamt of writing books and making the world richer, though the thought of making a profit had made me feel hollow, now writing this, I realize that others whom make money are probably in the same boat and others in the opposite boat. To gain is to lose, to lose is to gain, in the end of the begging, and the begging of the end, whom am I to say that gaining money from books would cause me suffering? If one buys a book, with the money that made them suffer, I believe and feel it inside that it would remove the suffering caused by attachment. In all fairness, I do have some money that causes me great happiness inside and makes me happy whenever I stare at it for even a brief moment, as it was given by people that I dearly love and respect, its no longer money to me. If I had stumbled upon a million dollars, would it make me happy? It would make me happier to find out whom had lost the large sum of money as it means nothing to me, but somebody else's suffering, though I would happily accept a million dollars if it had meant that it would remove the suffering from somebody whom has too much and scatter it. I admire trees, and bushes, they are rich and at the same time happy as they shed their wealth and share it, you are like a bed of soil. Speaking of so, what's your favorite version or versions The Way? any other suggestions ok books to read would be appreciated too.
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Yeah I'm letting go and releasing that which I am not as I'm following a more and more spiritual path and I'm realizing that I'm going down a path of becoming a modern day hermit. Not needing much of this world anymore. It's like I'm here but no longer of here.