Great video! I have been using my M9 since 2010. Because of sensor issue, I sent the camera to Leica for sensor replacement. Leica offered M240 instead. I declined the offer for CCD Sensor. I am glad keeping M9. The pictures' color is no match by CMOS.
Wow, this video is truly helpful to make me decide to go for M9 after all. Really appreciated for sharing your thoughts and insights with amazing photos, and English subtitle!
@@MissChrisiInShanghai Thank you. I love shooting film but for digital, the CCD sensors look is so unique. I prefer only older digital cameras, simple and older style.
Even the current 50 mm Summilux ASPH matches well with my M9, giving very nice color saturation under appropriate lighting conditions at ISO no higher than 800. Another lens I most often use on the M9 is the 35 mm Summicron version 4.
Hi, me again. I recently bought a M8.2 which is known to have the original unchanged CCD sensor. I don’t mind its 1.3 cropped sensor and it performs nicely with both old and vintage lenses. Interesting that I am becoming more attached to the older Leica products.
Used to have the M-E Type 220 as well. Use 90mb/s SanDisk 16GB golden label SD cards. 80mb/s 32GB SanDisk Ultra also work, I think. The camera isn't as slow as many people think. It's not fast for sure, though. Great video!
Chris, I have the M9, never changed CCD. After more than 10 years, still works with my MATE (ver 1) and WATE lenses. In a couple of weeks, it is this year's cherry bloomsome time to try out my newly acquired Voigtlander Trinity 3 APO-35-50-90 lenses. From The Big Apple . . . Steven
had the M9-P but ended up selling it, I couldn't justify keeping it when the screen is one of the worst i've come across on a digital camera, mixed with the awful white balance and constant buffer issues, luckily I made what I paid for it, Also because it was mint when I got it I didn't want to mark or damage it as I knew it wold affect the resale price, so in the end I realised what was the point in keeping a camera that a) I didn't use because I worried about it getting scratched and b) I fell out of love with it for the issues explained. If I get another M it will be one that I don't mind scratching & marking, so probably won't go for something mint as no doubt i'll fall into the same trap as before
You're right . Mint camera means you have no chance to use it. But camera always is just a photography tool. Why do I buy a tool But never using it? :)
Because they are beautiful cameras and beautiful objects that are desired, it’s a catch 22 situation with Leicas, I think you either in the camp that you buy one to use and don’t care about resale value or you buy one to stare at and hold but never risk damaging it, 😢
The camera is expensive but not for professional and most top commercial photographer they prefer SLR camera before !People buy a Leica camera just only for show off not for a great picture and a great photo needs a aesthetic mind more then a camera 🤣🤣🤣
This was a great watch. Thank you for putting English subtitles into the video. You’ve got a great photographic eye!
Subtitles is most difficult and important part of making the video. And I am so happy you like it.
當初因著這部分享跟著入手M9-P 時隔數月再回顧依舊熱淚盈眶 謝謝
讲得真好!我也有一台M9P用了十几年了,常挂机的是一枚11663。每个地方都叫到了点上,真的是谁用谁知道!真的讲的很棒!拍摄也很棒!给你点赞👍
我買了,賣掉,再買,再賣掉,但始終在2023年再買了一台M9P回來。最初賣掉第一台M9就是為了換當時新的M240,之後再買了M246,當始終覺得M246比不上M9M。後來又賣了M240和M9M換了M10,之後M10R,都覺得CMOS不是甚麽味兒。現在用上了M11,感覺尚算不錯,樣貌雖然跟M10沒多大的改變,但它內裏其實有很多有用的實際改動,只是M11的顏色始終不及我念念不忘的CCD顏色,所以幾經思量兜兜轉轉,最終都是買回一台M9P,自始每日都在使用,看到CCD營造出來的氣氛氛圍,真心是令心情有意想不到的喜悅。
念念不忘,必有回响。哈哈
我在上海生活过8年, 你的这些照片让我想起以前的一些日子, 希望看到更多的照片🙂
很長時間沒有追更你的分享,沒想到偶然看到了這麼棒的一期。🌹🌹 雖然這些年手中的這台M0-p帶給了我非常愉悅的使用感受和無數的心愛影像,但是和你的感受很像 - 就是我始終不能忘記多年前面對M9拍下的第一張徠卡照片時的那種“心頭的微微一顫”。。。就像是小男孩的手第一次被“那個女孩”觸碰到。2024年我期望可以有緣和M9再會,應該是一台M9 Mono 吧。 照片很耐看,BGM很棒。謝謝你的分享。
谢谢回馈😊
感謝 這篇是我今年看到最好的一集相機評測了!!也讓我因此入了徠卡坑下訂了M9p
可以把相機視頻做得這麼有靈魂這麼有人文氣息。再次感謝作者。回歸拍照的本質而非追求數據
期待“唯一的全畫幅CCD"
谢谢你
Great video! I have been using my M9 since 2010. Because of sensor issue, I sent the camera to Leica for sensor replacement. Leica offered M240 instead. I declined the offer for CCD Sensor. I am glad keeping M9. The pictures' color is no match by CMOS.
yeah,the color is very unique. I wish LEICA could have some special edition something like 60 anniversary version with 24megapixel ccd in future :)
Wow, this video is truly helpful to make me decide to go for M9 after all. Really appreciated for sharing your thoughts and insights with amazing photos, and English subtitle!
Your photography is so good! I've just recently bought my M9! (but not received yet):)
Thanks and I wish this camera could inspire you and help you a lot.
@@MissChrisiInShanghai Thank you. I love shooting film but for digital, the CCD sensors look is so unique. I prefer only older digital cameras, simple and older style.
Yes, It's unique and special in all the Leica M digital products line. And the only one full frame ccd digital camera. Only one.@@john_murch
Even the current 50 mm Summilux ASPH matches well with my M9, giving very nice color saturation under appropriate lighting conditions at ISO no higher than 800. Another lens I most often use on the M9 is the 35 mm Summicron version 4.
yeah……me too
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 我完全同意你。這M9在低光或暗角拍攝的照片是有它獨特的色彩魅力,在室外比較強烈陽光下,我會選用CMOS sensor的M或SL相機。
@@wilfredshum3703 所以最近给m9挂了一只大光圈镜头来弥补高感的不足
Hi, me again. I recently bought a M8.2 which is known to have the original unchanged CCD sensor. I don’t mind its 1.3 cropped sensor and it performs nicely with both old and vintage lenses. Interesting that I am becoming more attached to the older Leica products.
我的Leica M9 搭配爱展能 35/2.5, 28/3.5 两只电影改装镜,还有个改口的福伦达至尊 50/1.5, 老镜头的色彩可以把CCD的魅力充分表现。不太苟同手机看片不需高像素的说法,手机看高像素的原片还是很爽的,可以直接拉开和手机拍的片片的区别
不單Leica 老頭超配合M9,
以下voigtlander 舊鏡,也出色超有神彩,這年代完全被人遺忘了。
21mm color skopar
VC Skopar 35mm 2.5
50mm Nokton
75mm Helair
VC Skopar 35mm 2.5 这个头用下来如何?想拿来挂机,非常小巧啊。
@@MissChrisiInShanghai Ok LTM mount I Like Snapshot Skopar 25 f4 Very Good
說的很好!我2010年買的m9到現在還是主力。2年多前換了ccd到現在完全沒有脫膜-基本後期換那些都沒有問題。
謝謝分享你的經驗
Beautiful beautiful shots. I especially loved the landscape and mountain views, but all photos were great.
是的,我已经不用我那台m6很久了,反倒是G1用的越来越多,这几天看了胶片的价格,涨价简直是离谱。m10或者11的确是很好,但是我不了解。我更愿意用这个价钱去买一个数码后背接在中画幅哈苏上。只是中画幅我只有一台禄莱。我似乎离胶片越来越远。有时候我想如果要我选一台相机能把我以前的徕卡35镜头利用上就挺好。单你说的对,我完全可以不必这样,用一台和我拍摄习惯一样的m9+一个焦段合适的饼干头就好。
Used to have the M-E Type 220 as well. Use 90mb/s SanDisk 16GB golden label SD cards. 80mb/s 32GB SanDisk Ultra also work, I think. The camera isn't as slow as many people think. It's not fast for sure, though. Great video!
yes,it's good enough for most of us. Till now. So I sold my new LEICA M11 but keep M9 staying with me
近日也買入一部徠卡MP240,是我的第一部全片幅數碼徠卡相機,感覺拍攝出來的氣氛及色調和其他品牌的不同,無論如何,大家有時間的便儘情地拍攝,享受拍攝的樂趣。
我也準備入手MP240 請問你會搭配什麼鏡頭?
@@user-bx2iz7mh8r 一般會使用體積較細小的鏡頭,35mm f2 ASPH,21mm f2.8 pre-a等等
@@Erickkc 我都是考慮35mm f2 ASPH
Chris, I have the M9, never changed CCD. After more than 10 years, still works with my MATE (ver 1) and WATE lenses. In a couple of weeks, it is this year's cherry bloomsome time to try out my newly acquired Voigtlander Trinity 3 APO-35-50-90 lenses. From The Big Apple . . . Steven
Wonderful.... I hope you will enjoy your shot and have great works by this camera
眾多在202x 年買 M9 相機的影片中,你的應是最好的了。樣本相片很多(當然明白有些是ME的,但兩部機拍出一樣的相片),也對顏色味道這點說的很明白。感謝出片。自己也是M9,M10用家,顏色上也覺得M9特別討喜
谢谢……因为玩了一圈以后才发现其实那些缺点自己可以接受的话,M9就是自己最后一台数码徕卡了。
對啊, 就是M9 color science 最好的! 之後的M240, M10, M11 都比不上。 萬一壞了一台,就再買一台。 (利申,我有6台Leica )
I love M9, 唯一無二
CCD真的是非常漂亮,我也是把佳能5D一代卖了又买回来,2023年了还在用,虽然不是CCD,但是初代的CMOS因为不考虑视频的功能,所以发色也非常好,理解你的思路。只是害怕M9,CCD的问题。以前还在德国的时候,为中国的一个朋友联系徕卡,还免费换过一个CCD,现在不知道是否还有这样的服务。感觉应该要有。。。
徕卡官方更换ccd的免费服务在2017年已经正式停止了。后续如果ccd继续有脱膜的问题,只能国内找合适的师傅更换低通滤镜了,据说效果一样。
@@MissChrisiInShanghai请问换过CCD后用了2年 照片上出现了红色 白色 和蓝色的坏点 红色的坏点慢慢变成了一条垂直的细细的红线 这是什么情况呢
唉,可能是真的坏了。听说会有一定概率在一定年限以后ccd的金属引脚被腐蚀引发接触不良或其他症状,可以请专门的师傅检查一下是什么原因,如果是周边金属腐蚀,那基本上这块ccd阳寿将近呀。@@hyde4376
您可能不是官换CCD,而只是换了低通滤镜吧,四角可能会有漏油慢慢渗出。没黑屏前都可以继续拍,但正在慢慢老去。
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 谢谢你的认真回复 😊 我是原机主 从10年用到现在的 所以确定是官方给更换的 当时亲历一点点出现腐蚀的情况 之后等了3个月才完成更换 在那之后的的心态就很复杂 无法舍弃的发色 想不用的担心随心使用 但是又觉得他很脆弱 就用用停停 直到有一天拍夜景高感发现右下处有一个红色亮点 之后对比白天拍的照片 在同一个位置也发现了一样的红色亮点 像是拍到了红色led灯的样子 然后就逐渐出现了一条垂直的红色细线 慢慢的就贯穿了整个图片 随后仔细检查又发现了两个白色的点 和3个蓝色的点🥲
The M8.2 (UV/IR filter needed) has even better colours in yellow, green, red and blue. The never ending roll of Kodachrome.
yes, but 8.2 Is not 135 full frame sensor.
我也是用了10年m9,一直都没舍得换,每每看到成片的色彩和质感,都让我找不到换的理由哈,只不过最近发现有点小小脱模迹象,但只有小光圈才可见,那好吧,以后我就全开光圈用好了:)
非常喜欢这些样片,顿时就感到手里的x100v的经典负片色彩有点单薄了
人对照片的情感也跟记忆有关,胶片也是,M9的颜色也是,是你逝去的时间,想不停回头看
年纪大了就容易怀旧……您说的一点没错
M9这代的CCD很适合挂老镜头。我手头有一枚nikkor 5cm f1.4 LTM松纳结构的老头,最大光圈时在我那台SL(typ601)的CMOS上成像总会有一层‘雾’的感觉,但是用在M9上就很“扎实” (我在chiphell和知乎上有发过对比图可供参考)很适合退烧
兜兜转转一圈以后,又回到了最初的起点,玩过那么多徕卡以后,还是选择了第一台相机,不得不说是一种命运的轮回或者是宿命。但的确是喜欢,才重新买回来,而且不管成色如何,拍就是了。😄
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 哈哈哈巧了 M9也是我第一台徕卡 用过之后就开始入坑胶片 现在玩过一圈apo/asph现代镜头后又选择回到起点,搞了台钢灰色M9(当然胶片还在拍 但主要是中画幅了)
@@daoxinzhishui exactly same!
had the M9-P but ended up selling it, I couldn't justify keeping it when the screen is one of the worst i've come across on a digital camera, mixed with the awful white balance and constant buffer issues, luckily I made what I paid for it, Also because it was mint when I got it I didn't want to mark or damage it as I knew it wold affect the resale price, so in the end I realised what was the point in keeping a camera that a) I didn't use because I worried about it getting scratched and b) I fell out of love with it for the issues explained. If I get another M it will be one that I don't mind scratching & marking, so probably won't go for something mint as no doubt i'll fall into the same trap as before
You're right . Mint camera means you have no chance to use it. But camera always is just a photography tool. Why do I buy a tool But never using it? :)
Because they are beautiful cameras and beautiful objects that are desired, it’s a catch 22 situation with Leicas, I think you either in the camp that you buy one to use and don’t care about resale value or you buy one to stare at and hold but never risk damaging it, 😢
exactly!@@R0CUK
i am still thinking of getting an used leica M9 (replaced CCD) today.
影片最後的照片,很多都很有感覺跟味道,期待可以看到更多影片及照片分享。
今天晚上,無意之間發現妳的這個頻道,於是,多了一個新idol. 非常欣賞!加油!
谢谢!哈哈😃
小媛的照片实在很有感觉 真心喜欢
其实低像素的cmos也有低光中的暗淡辉煌,只不过没ccd的那种忧郁
配搭 50mm f1.0 noct,更是散景跟顏色的絕配
一日M9, 永遠M9😊
看完了,感动了,下单了。
哄堂大笑了家人们
BMG 好治愈。
我2023年买的 哈哈
看了你的视频后,我也买了一台M9.
换过CCD的才能买哦。最好不是仅仅换了低通的。😃
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 嗯!我问了老半天,问个究竟,查了一切,确认了CCD sensor 是CCD 15 才买了相机。
@@Gardiroth 如果是官方换的,应该会有证书和单据的。这很重要。
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 我是在一间二手相机店买的,购买之时只有给了充电器和电池。证书与单据恐怕以不存在哈哈。😄
@@Gardiroth 哦,据说可以通过电邮询问徕卡官方,他们是可以帮助查询确认这台机器是否官方更换过ccd,都有记录的,如果您不放心的话。
刚升级了A7iv, 现在真的有点后悔....可是澳洲的leica二手比国内贵太多了。
他的顏色好有溫度好美啊❤
让人感动
請問一下,脫膜是不是因為過熱?你建議什麼使用方式可以盡量避免?
@@royleung2424 據我的了解,柯達這一批ccs脫膜主要是由於ccd表面玻璃的抗氧化能力不足,時間長了會因為空氣中的水分和其他物質影響導致被侵蝕。ID編號為5/8/11……之前徠卡官方會更换成新的ccd模块,編號是15/16。但現在沒有這樣的服務了。所以只能找師傅換低通玻璃了。別無他法。
@@royleung2424 但我還聽到過一個更糟糕的版本,ccd時間太久以後金屬引腳線也會發生腐蝕問題,那基本就沒救了……一旦你發現在稍高一點的ISO下拍到的照片有垂直細線出現,那就表明CCD開始劣化了……
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May i know what lens did you use for those pictures at the end?
Most of them were shot by summilux 50/1.4a and some were Summicron 35/2 ;-)
感觉m9 颜色太重了。 有时候看着透不过气来。
嗯,浓得化不开……所以有时候会去拍点小清新的东西,解一解腻。
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 小媛老师,有时间给我们讲讲 徕卡的一些取景技巧。和景深的概念好吗?景深这种东西, 书本上写的 和口耳相传的一定不一样。
小袁好,我是老袁😄,请问有没有MD type 262 的 介绍 或者货源
你的M9对比度等如何设置的呢?我都是放标准
我也都是默认值
有调色? 或直出?
與其說CCD拍出來的像膠片拍的,不如說CCD拍出來的暗部層次是CMOS怎麼後製也後製不來的。M9這類CCD全幅相機,對於徠卡這種強調暗部細節的鏡頭搭配起來就變成了無可取代的絕配了。若CCD這樣有特色的感光元件不能敗部復活的話,那這樣拍出來的效果,我想以後大概也是絕後了吧?
您說的一點沒錯,膠片並不是ccd這樣的味道,但cmos也做不出ccd的成像效果。捨棄高感和live view換來低感的純淨和暗部的細節;或者反過來說,科技的發展為了高感和live view,放棄了低感畫質與暗部細節……就看拍攝的題材和表達的需要了。
照片超级赞
谢谢!
请问购买二手莱卡相机的时候,特别是CCD的那几个型号,最要当心的是哪几个事情,谢谢。
ccd的脱膜问题可以通过更换新的ccd或者低通来解决。需要卖家提供更换证书。这是徕卡ccd相机最大的问题。其他基本没啥,黄斑是否合焦,快门速度是否准确等都是机械问题。
Well said :)
这颗CCD来自一个传奇的不存在的公司,柯达,会裂开
CCD确实让人着迷……
Can I use my m9 in the snow and it won't break?
Yes you can. I shot on it in Hokkaido, Japan during the winter. It worked perfect. The temperature was about -15℃.
有所感悟到了,谢谢
請問11:30后的片也是用M9拍的嗎?
里面的照片都是ME拍的,和M9同一块ccd哈
曾經擁有,但一想到終有一天脫膜就接受不了,最後賣掉
我的脱膜在F5.6后才明显,但我基本只用1.4,所以照样用
妳好,最近入手了一台M240的二手機,但要跟原廠買電池時,聽說電池已停產了,想請問老師都如何處理的?
二手市场还有库存的……更老的电池可以通过改电芯实现继续使用(比如Leica R8)
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 謝謝🙏老師
想問一下,如果預到有死點問題怎樣可處理?😢
ccd的壞點嗎?那還真沒辦法了呢
你说完让我考虑设计手柄给它了....
我已經賣了M9P,我這台已經換了兩次CCD,它毛病實在太多,隨時會突然死亡!
在有限的生命裡,盡量多地去體會她的美好,發揮她的作用,讓她幫助你去記錄更多的瞬間。那麼即便突然死亡,其實價值也已經實現了。
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 現在留下MM真的要把它用到不能再用為止。
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 完全同意,用得一部就一部。
我也换过一次CCD,但现在还是脱膜了。但我觉得这不是它最主要的毛病,用大光圈就好。我觉得值得诟病的是他的电池,我两块电池都觉得不够用😂
徕卡为什么要玩数码的?我不懂
请问大家M8和M9的屏幕大小是不是完全一样啊?
我查了一下规格,是的,都是2.5英寸屏幕
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 谢谢Chris
M9的味道,看了以后,中毒
请教一下, m240 和 m9 怎么选? 纠结了。。
M9是ccd,可能会脱膜,像素比较低,低感优异,高感垃圾;M240是CMOS,不会脱膜,像素不错,高感也不错,颜色和M9很不一样,速度性能更快。
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 感谢 我感觉我还是要买m240
@@1Movieticket 嗯嗯喜欢就好👌🏻
當然是M9,M240無得比
换过的CCD还是会出同样的问题,所以在出问题前尽情地去享受它吧。
是的,所有的机器都会出问题,都会被淘汰。重要的是在它还能工作的时候,在我们还能正常生活的时候,为我们多留点记忆和曾经生活过的证据……
感謝你的經驗分享
我也是今年購入然後換ccd
好想家
换了低通的m9靠谱吗?
反正現在就這麼對付著唄,出了問題再說。
你不仅会用,还很会总结
谢谢
快门声音的感觉像翻书
热乎的
引领你入坑的居然是个数码机
是的呀,哈哈哈~
The camera is expensive but not for professional and most top commercial photographer they prefer SLR camera before !People buy a Leica camera just only for show off not for a great picture and a great photo needs a aesthetic mind more then a camera 🤣🤣🤣
真的是2022年拍的嗎?怎麼沒看到人戴口罩?中國的就算了,日本還是要戴口罩吧
怎么会2022年拍的啊?我只是刚买了一台M9,这些都是过去十年我用之前的ME拍的啊
@@MissChrisiInShanghai 搞錯了,照片拍的不錯,特別在日本那幾張👍🏿
抚摸一下.....
这台机器我一直保留了10几年,太喜欢它的CCD,很喜欢您的节目,您有V信或ins吗?
有啊,ins: shanghaichris
太沉了,拿不動了,真的拿不動了。還是人老了。
啊,跟宾得67比起来实在是小巧迷你太多了呀,嘻嘻😁
用無反 輕一半 2xxg
福伦达的颜色太假
Moody and depressing colour scheme.
我喜欢录视频 是不是不太适合ccd