1962 ASROC Navy Nuclear Tests from USS Agerholm DD826
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- US Navy documented film from the 1962 Operation Swordfish ASROC Nuclear depth charge tests in the Pacific. Firing vehicle USS Agerholm DD826, USS Richard B Anderson DD786, and USS Bausell DD845 are shown during the test. Effects of the test and results on submarine Razorback 2.5 miles away are discussed. This is the only known test of the ASROC Nuclear Depth bomb. This video brought to you by the Friends of the USS Joseph P. Kennedy Jr DD850 .
This gave me a sense of nostalgia bigtime!. I was on the ASROC handling team on the USS Marvin Shields in San Diego in the 70's. Great memories, man who else but Asroc crews would be looking this shit up
Well, a member of the crew of the Razorback, for one! I love this old shit! I was aboard during this test in 1962 and also loved it when we were then rewarded with a direct trip to Seattle World's Fair for a job well done!
Me STG-1 on 2 destroyers. DD-965 and DD-991.
Another "Who else?" would be a former "PRP approved" weapons handler from a WA division on an also formerly existing Knox Class Frigate, like myself. A real blast, wasn't it?
Wow! All of the three DDG's that I was aboard in the 70's had AZROC. These were not used while I was aboard USS Joseph Strauss DDG-16 and USS John McCain DDG-36 during Vietnam. After the Vietnam War I was aboard USS Benjamin Stoddert DDG-36. I was an FTG (Fire Control Technician Guns). DDG's rocked during the Vietnam War. They were the state of the art ships at the time. 5" 54 caliber guns, guided missile, sonar, ASROC, etc. I am proud of my service as an FTG pounding about about 25,000 5" 54 caliber rounds during my two deployments aboard Strauss and later a third on McCain during the Vietnam War. I give more credit to the FTM's, the sonar technicians, etc., than what we did. They had our backs.
We're all the same these days.
No fish were harmed in the making of this video.
All fish that took part in this video were trained professionals paid a fair compensation.
Fuckers murdered Mr Limpet!
Sorry Charlie!
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I was operating a TV camera on the signal bridge of the Aggie alongside an Army Signal Corps movie cameraman. The sound of the detonation was incredible, and it seemed to go on and on.
Norm Austen ET2
Must be quite unforgettable to have been part of that :-)
That must have been quite the experience
You must have met my Father, Commander Sibert.
I was ASROC gunner on the Agerholm starting in 69
@@DD-bn2mx did you know Ken Keyes Stg?
Was on Dd845 Bausell 71 Stg
This is cool, my Father is Commander Sibert. He couldn't talk much about this before he passed. He died March 10th 2000 and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery. I do know that the test was actually done on day 2 because the first day the plane was out of position for the over test on day 1 and it cost about $1,000,000 a day to do the test.
I was the last WEPS OFCR on AGGIE...decommed her 1 Dec of '78, NavSta San Diego...
I was on the ASROC Sytem on that ship 6 years later. lol
My dad was a sonarman aboard her at the time.
The submarine monitoring the test is now on display at the
Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum in North Little Rock, Arkansas Tours available for longest commissioned submarine in history.
How cool and at the same time how scary it would of been to be apart of military testing back in the nuclear era
Fact check: the test known as "Swordfish" was part of Operation Dominic, a series of 31 nuclear tests conducted in 1962.
Those were the days, I remember seeing two suns in the sky on the day we tested a Terrier W45 nuke.
I was a Aviation Ordinance Man on the Uss Oriskany Cva 34
My granddaddy Ken was a part of Joint Task Force 8. Incredible to see what he would have seen. Thank you.
I can neither confirm nor deny we had those on the Bob E. FF1073
I just turned 5 years old on the 3rd of January. Went on to serve on DD883 N.K. Perry 3.5 years.
Larry Vandeman, my grandfather of 82, served on this ship. Wonderful man, loving Grandfather. Still kicking hard to this day, great health.
I can't remember if this video was one that I/we viewed about PRP restricted weapons handling operations in the ASROC magazine. Does anyone else? Some does seem the same or at least very familiar, but it really isn't hammering any bells at all.
Gone are the glory days when the course, speed, and swell would permit some good old fashioned "beep-a-dee-mus" [BPDMS] jumping on the fantail. It was just as much fun watching the jumpers pop up to eye level above the launcher box while standing on the flight deck of a Knox Class Frigate, as it was to be a jumper on the fantail IMO.
7:50 - the A-3 Skywarrior that photographed that film-footage was very likely the RA-3B variant.
Really? General Starboard lmao. I thought I had it bad with all the Major Minor jokes lmao
Our Captain used to practice straight in attacks where we would simulate firing a few of these in a pattern ahead of us to vaporize a Russian missle sub before it could wipe out half the US. We used to joke that we (the ship) would be surfing the burst wave straight into the next life...
For STG AS div DD 845
USS Bausell. Sonar Underwater Battery Asroc- tactics were never head in .. always side shot while departing the area. The Aggies ASROC launcher was mid ships between the stacks.
Couldn't shoot forward or aft,lockouts. Range using MK17 was also a lockout. Less than xxxxyds to target no shoot.
I was on DD-840.. GMT3.. remeber this well.
Thanks for uploading this. My brother was on the USS Razorback sub during this test!
Emato Rose - what rate was your brother? I was an EN3(SS) in the After Engine Room during this test and remember the strong surge to port from the shock wave. Your brother and I were shipmates at the time.
Test: Swordfish
Time: 20:02 11 May 1962 (GMT) 13:02 11 May 1962 (local)
Location: 400 nm W San Diego
Test Height and Type: Underwater; -650 Feet (Rocket Launched Depth Bomb)
Yield:
W-44
I was an ASROC Gunners Mate. Even had a tour teaching the system at Gun School Great Lakes. USS John Hancock DD-981, USS Semmes DDG-18.
Ye ole' glass building! When were you there?
@@billkar8129 1980 to 1981 for school. went back twice as an instructor for MK-16 and MK-26
@@GrandstandVideo Had the MK-16 training during '86-'87, Admiral Hazard was CO at the time.
My father served on the Bausell at the time of this test.
The Maddox (DD 731) also appeared in this.
The video is real as I was a Radioman 3rd Class in USS Agerholm during the test.
D5...... Miss
Great history, especially for our former Navy ST-0431 (MK III Underwater Battery Firecontrol System).
I'd really, REALLY like to see an unreacted version of this film.
Served in Agerholm.. aboard during this operation. General quarters station was in electronics shop.
Hey Royce! I was aboard Razorback during this test - opposite ends of the ASROC!
I reported to Agerholm about a week after this. Sorry I missed it. I did enjoy my tour in Agerholm.
AGERHOLM was also a film star. Was a float-in in the movie, “Airport ‘77”
Hey, a Tektronix scope at 2:12...maybe a 547?
10KT W44 nuclear warhead. Amazingly enough, nuclear ASROC was only taken out of service in 1989.
They can always be brought back if necessary. And if the Chinese and Russian subs become a perceived problem again, they will be.
They were pulled over a period of time before then as weapons stocks were built up, 1989 was just when it was announced.
@@kirk2767 If you can find the appropriate vessels to do that! Modern ASROC is a VLS thing, thus plenty of changes in both the rocket itself, and the launching system.
It's the USS Bausell, not the Boss Cell.
Fast forward to 6:46 for the good stuff
Test run in 1962 under command of Admiral Mustin. Hmmm - in 1979 I deployed with the Saratoga battle group under command of Admiral Mustin...
There were three generations of Mustins...the last one just retired as a 3-star within the last year.
Looks like super OVERKILL!!!!
USS Agerholm ended up being sunk as a target (By a UGM-109B Tomahawk cruise-missile) in 1982, now while that's a better fate than being ignominiously scrapped it should've been preserved given the historic nature of its' role in operation Swordfish.
My old boat, the USS Razorback is still alive and well in North Little Rock, AR as a museum vessel. I was aboard in 1962 and participated in this test. We were the only manned vessel near the blast zone and were really glad the aim was accurate!
@@cobraman1 Were you and the rest of the crew left a bit shook up after the shockwave passed?
@@nicholasmaude6906 Yes, we had tested for 2 weeks with towed depth charges set off near us, on both sides and at differing depths. We were ready for and expecting a sharp blast like the depth charges but right after the big blast, the shock wave hit our starboard side and rolled us heavily to port, we were not expecting that! I was AER and had my feet braced on the side of #4 main engine as we rolled to port. Shook us up for sure!
This obviously is from a surface launched platform and one can easily see the well known photo of Agerholm standing in the front of the mushroom cloud. This is also a US Navy film!
It was the Agerholm that launched the nuke, my Father was the Captain and he pushed the launch button personally.
@@tonysibert1962 With all due respect, technically speaking, if the Captain was at the bridge at the time, he couldn't have "pushed" the launch button. This could only be done from the ASW-part of the CIC room, or locally from the LCCP but not with a push button. Rather a rotating handle switch.
I look at this footage and think about my next kidney stone getting blasted.
Shockwave lithotripsy…Had mine in 1987. Used a transducer from a WW2 sonar set. A glimmer of what it felt to be U-boat…chuckle…PING!!!
Between Nuke tipped torpedos from the enemy(and usa) and the ASROC depth charges,,you better be on your First Shooter game, because you only get 1. The "young man" bracing himself in the sub looks like he loaded his pants, in relief. Brave Lads in the sub. I'm sure a big shiny chest medal was awarded to all(nope). The other vids label this test as Dominic Swordfish.
What was the preset depth for the ASROC? Could it be used in a port facility?
There were no preset depth settings, launching the rocket was a result of continuous computations until the last second of firing.
@@billkar8129 Curious because our ship was the back-up For the Bausell on this test, my last year on the Anderson DD786, we had a very black-op, that had the three letter guys onboard and the crew restricted to inside the ship. We had escorts everywhere we went too.The only info I have been able to dig up had the dates wrong by a year......
@@glennlukas6216 Is your question specific on the DC version of ASROC? That i wouldn't know much about. But the "regular" (MK44-MK46 torpedo) rocket worked like i said. I served on the Cecil, Stickel, and last but not least the Connole as an ASROC captain. I've heard of rumors on shore-installing launcher studies, but i don't think it was a project that came to life.
650 feet
holy shit the sound quality is terrible, wth did they record on, a 1920s record?
re: poor sound. While I’m grateful for the footage, this is a poorly executed transfer using an optical audio equipped 16mm projector. This means playback of 3rd gen. copy of the original master in a format for inferior to the original 35mm mag stripe masters. Then the people posting this pointed a standard definition camcorder at a screen using a 16mm projector that is in need of serious maintenance.
Don’t blame the people who did the work. I’m sure that a properly transferred version from original source material could be made to sound quite good. If only someone would pay for it.
Are nuclear depth charge weapon still used ?
The idea of using a nuclear warhead for the ASROC missile seems to be yet another example of the nuclear overkill that gripped the U.S. military in the early years of the Cold War. Presumably, the logic behind adapting nuclear weapons for this use appears to have derived from the assumption that one missile could eliminate an entire fleet of ships, but, as the film demonstrates, the use of the missile also imperils the ship that deploys the weapon.
As unthinkable as nuclear weapons might be for land warfare, naval warfare is different. Subs are difficult to pinpoint, so using one makes sense. Also, there are no civilian casualties, no crater, the radiation dissipates within weeks if not days, the only witnesses are on your own side--it would actually be difficult for someone to prove that you even used one. Nukes would probably be the norm, not the exception.
if we went to nuclear rockets back then, it was all out war
And York Town remained on station 4 or 5 during operation shark count all the wile making water from nuke soup for crew to bath in and drink
🔥🔥🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲 thank you for this
We're being duped. This is the same video that claims to be from a SUBROC. Identical. pictures and narration. The only difference is the Razorback. Look it up on RUclips. It could just be the uploader. I don't know. But I promise I've seen this before. Just today. There's a 1 hour film of all the problems they had and problems with contamination. No mention of Razorback. Just weird.
my dad was on the yorktown when this took place
MIne too.
So was I
Bill Hanks
so this is how godzilla was made
My right ear is lonely. And it sounds like the guy is talking underwater.
nuclear depth charges were superseded by modern and accurate high explosive weapons
+TheKeithvidz Oh I don't known, I think they might be the best way to take out an aircraft carrier. The asroc was really a rocket launched torpedo.
+pschroeter1
i checked b4 posting my last comment. Nucs are less desirable as anti sub weapons these days it seems.
Depth charges are against subs - torpedoes sink carriers.
Not really ... nuclear depth charges are in the same category as any other nuclear weapon. They were never intended for use in conventional warfare.
These are the sort of weapons you only use once the shit has well and truly hit the fan and really have nothing else to lose.
you sir bracketed yourself in wholly nuc warfare, while i didn't.
Nah.... They were taken off USN ships when the USSR folded. No Russian subs means there was no longer a need to have them aboard.
Any images of the targeted sub? Or the leftover fragments??
gijoe696 You can go tour her in Little Rock, Arkansas. She had another 40 years of service, eight in the US Navy and the rest in the Turkish Navy.
@@Imbeachedwhale Yes, but the one major thing is: the Razorback wasn't the target, it was a raft. I live in Arkansas, never been to the museum, but I want to one day. It's neat to see that.
In this case it would be a guaranteed kill of any submarine within miles of the detonation point, it would be a good trade even if the launching ship was damaged.
When you launch you do so right after you turn your stern to the enemy and hit flank bell +. That way you might catch the wave.
As it happened, my sub, the USS Razorback was within 2.5 miles of the detonation point at periscope depth. We took a rocking beating in the shock wave and got a really nice photo of the water plume you saw in the newsreel. We were the only manned vessel near the detonation.
re: “...guaranteed kill of any submarine within miles...”No it wouldn’t. There were two USN submarines positioned nearby. The Razorback (shown in the video) was 4,600 yards away. As you can see from the footage, the effect inside the sub was fairly modest.
I love how the guy narrating it is talking though the safety of the men being so important, the US government couldn't of give two fcks what danger it put its men it in during the Cold War
+Iain Clark Remember the priorities:
1: Win the war
2: Survive
3: Live long enough to be able to talk about it after declassification of the event.
Keep them in this order.
USN *did* give the appropriate number of fornications about the crew.
wrong, they cared. They wanted to limit friendly casualties in order to preserve a fighting force beyond the initial nuclear exchange. They also knew that casualties in high numbers would be unavoidable.
Am I the only sick one who would like to see one go off ? Close but not too close , safe but close enough to scare the shit out of me . Any one want to watch with me ? LOL
They were “taking protection of sailors from radiation”… A new pair of coveralls just don’t do what they told those guys it would do. 😂
The Computer Geeks never seem to change!!! Is that some sort of uniform they have to use to qualify as Computer Geeks or what ? :D
I know about SUBROC. Well, a bit. I rode boats for 8 years. Can't say if we had them or not you understand.. Plus, I don't know the yield of the two. Wish I did. Doesn't matter. Reagan and Gorbechov got rid of tactical nukes in the 80's. SALT treaties. Thank God.
I wonder how permission to use tactical weapons like this work where situations are very fluid . I mean do orders get broadcast that you can use nukes if you want? And when would that happen. They always like to show ICBM launches as very tightly controlled and only being initiated by the President.
ICBM's are 'strategic' nuclear weapons. They are not used against the 'front lines' in a confrontation. They are used against strategic assets such as military bases, hardened facilities, cities, factories, etc.
Weapons such as the 'nuclear depth bomb' are tactical nuclear weapons. They are used on the 'front lines' directly against combatants.
When the US and Russia agreed to reduce their nuclear stockpiles, the first things to go were tactical nuclear weapons as there was concern that the use of them would cause irreversible escalation of the situation.
The order would come directly from the President to the Captain aboard ship.
There were always provisions for lower levels of release authority during wartime. But Presidents really didn't like that idea. Hell, there was a time the military moved to take release authority away from the president because they were afraid he would use it. (Nixon)
I wonder how many sailors died as a result of this test...
I would say none or maybe one. Our government did play a bit fast and loose with the health of some people but for the most part they were pretty careful regarding nuclear tests (the big exception to this was Castle Bravo, which had a yield of 15 Mt instead of the planned 6Mt and some civilians died as a result). One of the units of total absorbed dose is REM (Roentgen Equivalent Man) and I believe I read that the allowed upper limit for personnel exposure during each test was about 5 REM, with the majority of the participants getting less than 1 REM. A modern CT scan gives you about 1 REM. Your lifetime fatal cancer risk rises by about 0.1% per REM. So, let's say 5890 people (out of the 6000 in the task group) received 0.1 REM, 100 people received 1 REM, and 10 people received 5 REM. 5890 * 0.1% per REM * 0.1 REM = 0.6 deaths. 100 * 0.1%/REM * 1 REM = 0.1 deaths. 10 * 0.1%/REM * 5 REM = 0.05 deaths. Total = 0.75 deaths. This is all a bit fuzzy, though, because all of our data on risk comes from rather high dose exposures to people, which we then extrapolate down to lower doses.
Post a link.
6:30
did it even hit the target?
Close enough for government work.
unpresedented amounts of data=10MB
... I want one... 8D
There is other ways to fish
Nixie Tubes
Block "C"
Fake footage cheesy photoshopping
Tell that to my Grandfather who released the Projectile...
@@Kingbooger94 That does not prove anything…. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are both healthy vibrant cities today….if nukes were real….it appears they were probably dropped on Detroit…