This is one of the most dangerous to unban. Its possible for turn 1 infinite turns: Land, Voltaic Key, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Time Vault, any 2 other cards.
Yeah a “this is the only way this card can be untapped” kinda thing would make sense on it. What’s an extra line of text on what’s already an essay yanno? - Gramps
It’s always wonderful when you’re reminded or rediscover older cards. I was sorting my bulk recently and found a bunch of old slivers I forgot I had and refreshed the deck. - Gramps
time long first time, I think if you're looking to "fix" time vault, just giving it "shroud" would be a good way of limiting how many ways you can go infinite with it without completely ruining the fun of going infinite. There's quite a lot of effects that are "take an extra turn, at the end of that turn, you lose the game" effects that I think it'd be a disservice to Vault to give it that specific ability
@@fernandob2275 original printing is the printing they discussed. The time counter mechanic was an errata afaik and even that has issues before it was perfected with Magosi I was new to the game but I remember the flame fusillade infinite combo back when the signature card came out
Im sorry, Gramps, this is one of the easiest bans of all time. Maybe we'll get em next time. They won't take us seriously if we try to unban this nonsense.
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This is one of the most dangerous to unban. Its possible for turn 1 infinite turns: Land, Voltaic Key, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Time Vault, any 2 other cards.
Also a way to fix it is "this card can only be untapped by its own effect"
Yeah a “this is the only way this card can be untapped” kinda thing would make sense on it.
What’s an extra line of text on what’s already an essay yanno? - Gramps
I used to play fate spinner back in middle school like 20 years ago lol
Original function had it so you HAD to skip a turn in order to untap timevault. You could NOT untap it any other way.
Look at Magosi, the waterveil
im adding fate spinner to my wizard deck
It’s always wonderful when you’re reminded or rediscover older cards. I was sorting my bulk recently and found a bunch of old slivers I forgot I had and refreshed the deck. - Gramps
time long first time, I think if you're looking to "fix" time vault, just giving it "shroud" would be a good way of limiting how many ways you can go infinite with it without completely ruining the fun of going infinite. There's quite a lot of effects that are "take an extra turn, at the end of that turn, you lose the game" effects that I think it'd be a disservice to Vault to give it that specific ability
Oh damn, shroud truly does fix this card. That's wild. Or have it phase out I guess? - Gramps
Original function actually fixes it. A la Magosi
@@fernandob2275 original printing is the printing they discussed. The time counter mechanic was an errata afaik and even that has issues before it was perfected with Magosi
I was new to the game but I remember the flame fusillade infinite combo back when the signature card came out
Im sorry, Gramps, this is one of the easiest bans of all time. Maybe we'll get em next time. They won't take us seriously if we try to unban this nonsense.