Bravestarr Deep Dive
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- This one is a long time coming. When I was around 5 years old, my father taped some episodes of Bravestarr, and watching it is one of my earliest memories. Bravestarr is an astounding show, way ahead of its time and profoundly pro-values while also being staunchly anti-tyranny. In this video I discuss the fabulous furry characters who fill out the cast and rehabilitate the idea of Filmation's 'stock footage' system while giving some background details about the show.
I also spend some time drooling over Thirty-Thirty because I'm a red-blooded American woman.
Thumbnail art by LuciusHargrave
Music provided by Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
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Kevin Macleod - Drankin Song
Logan Boese's article: atribecalledgeek.com/bravestarr-a-retrospective-of-representation/
City of Maple Ridge Beast Story: mapleridge.ca/737/The-Beast 
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I deeply respect the restraint it must have took to not spend the whole video thirsting over Thirty-Thirty.
My chains are heavy
@@FurryFoundFootagetrust me girl you ain't the only one who's trying to contain yourself.
Bravestarr walked so Steel Ball Run could run.
That "but he eats quiche" thing is part of a whole 80s crisis in masculinity - typified by the "humour" book 'Real Men Don't Eat Quiche', from 82. I know I'd be happy to share a romantic quiche-based meal with Thirty-Thirty any day...
I forgot about that book! That puts it in even more perspective. Real men aren't babies who don't appreciate a good quiche. You kidding me, if a lumberjack comes in from a 12 hour shift you think he's going to turn his nose up at the quiche his wife made him? In some ways the crisis is even more cartoonish nowadays.
Going back to Beauty and the Beast, toxic masculinity poster boy, Gaston, claims to owe his barge-like physique to eating dozens of eggs. You know what's in quiche!? 🤣
I clicked to see where the stud known as Thirty-Thirty came from, but was surprised to learn how incredible Bravestarr and Filmation were in portraying masculinity. Bravestarr openly complimenting Thirty-Thirty without having him get upset and 30-30 himself being shown taking care of his beautiful mane were delightful to see. The way Bravestarr challenges traditional masculinity is incredible and I wish that type of main character were more common. You mentioning that wars would be prevented if men could compliment each other can be seen as a funny throw-away line, but it's kinda true. If men weren't taught to be stoic beings that needed to dominate others in order to prove their manhood, then conflicts really wouldn't be that prevalent. Great video.
Didn't mention it in the previous comment, but there's a film called "Tough Guise 2" that talks in-depth about the problems of masculinity. I definitely recommend it.
I'm so happy you got something out of that. I think a lot of men could stand to not be afraid. Thanks for the comment!
I may be as white as rice, but im Cherokee descent, and this show always gave me so much joy for having a native lead. But that being said, 30-30 is still my mave animated character of all time
Oh no, in a time where every frame had to be hand drawn we reused footage. Heavean forbid.
whats odd is even with computers generating filler frames we still do it.
Yeah, but the problem is that Lou Scheimer didn't know what a smear frame was and all of the Filmation cartoons looked stiffer because of it.
Despite growing up in the late 80s and 90s, I somehow never heard of this show's very existence until you covered it. Bravestarr would have 100% guaranteed I became a furry even if nothing else did.
I barely know of Bravestarr. I wasn't born til 1986.
Hearing the voice actor Deputy Fuzz would later voice Cow, Chicken, and Red Guy in the 90's.
Susan Blu was also the voice of Arcee from the Transformers 1986 movie.
The actor voiced Skeletor, whom voiced Falkor from Never Ending Story, and would later be a Star Fleet Captain in Deep Space Nine.
I must say that Red Guy was a favorite character of mine.
Great video! I only recently discovered your channel and it's honestly amazing seeing the production, history, and talent of show that I wasn't alive when it was airing. I plan to continue supporting your channel and swooning for 3030
This is Bulge, btw! Always here to support this channel!
"Tex. Hex. He's perfect in every way."
Yes, a thousand times yes. Tex is such a great character and the undead cowboy sorcerer love of my life.
BraveStarr was a little before my time but I was delighted to be introduced to it a couple years ago and fell completely in love. Tex and Thunderstick are my favourites. He didn't get a mention but I guess it's not "Robophile Found Footage" so that's fair. XD I'm so glad you pointed out the backgrounds, they're so beautifully painted and full of personality. Thanks for talking about this wonderful show
I was about to link this video to you
@@akaony Oh, thank you!
Oh I was looking forward to this! I grew up on Bravestarr. Kinda. I know I watched, and being a natural furry I would have been absolutely obsessed with 30-30. But it was the era of, you watched what tv put in front of you. Or you taped. It was mostly Voltron, MASK, and My Little Pony. But I've always had an appreciation for Filmation, and your retrospective was a joy to behold. Learning the behind the scenes stuff, and condensing all the messaging so we can appreciate it was excellent.
Now, this will probably be controversial but a free flow of ideas is the mark of a vibrant society. I think more of the villains or at least villain species needed to be painfully ordinary people. That's kind of a personal thing with me, because I've always been a bisexual furry (like, I was very aware of being bi literally forever) and a lot of villains in old cartoons were some level of furry, I wanted nice versions of them so you could have eye candy that also worked at the feed store or as a bricklayer or something. Like having Keatons and Blins living in Hylian villages in their own version of Little Italy or Chinatown and being vibrant members of societies. The Dingos could live in town, be normal guys, date earth women. Make up some Dingo girls and have families, or again, they could also date earth men. I just think that yes, it's hot when furries are villains. But it makes sustained lives tougher. And 30-30 is a hero, and he's still hot.
I definitely think they needed more neutral dingos
Amazing. Can you imagine, this show was on one of TV channels in Russia, when I was 8 or 9, and I watched it. But completely forgotten it, and this video reminded me.
Man I have so many words I want to shout at the top of my lungs when it comes to Bravestarr and Fimation. I'm so glad to finally see someone not only praising this series but doing a whole video on it! I really hope this starts a chain reaction and gets people watching these shows again. Does my heart good.
I want to be the little domino that makes the big domino fall. Thanks for your comment, I really appreciate the vote of confidence!
I know that the lesson address at the end of every episode may seem a little bit much to older viewers, but there was one episode's lesson that had a profound effect on me when I watched it as a kid. I can't remember the exact episode, but the lesson address had Skuzz, the cigar-smoking henchman of Tex Hex, talking about his smoking. I can't remember the exact wording he used, but it was essentially "I know this is killing me, but I can't stop". As a young kid, it gave me my first understanding of addiction regarding smoking. Bravestarr as a whole tackled some pretty heavy issues, yet did so in a way that other shows at the time didn't do as memorably.
I think the key thing about Bravestarr is that everyone involved really had their hearts in the right place. Filmation was lambasted for their emphasis on pro-social messaging, but I think these lessons helped a lot of young kids and still ring true.
For some reason, seeing this made me do a dive into my memory for a CBS Storybreak animation called Max and Me and the Time Machine where Max becomes a quite nice nerd horse.
I've seen that, definitely would like to at least share m it on my page at some point!
Great video! Some great nuggets of info I haven't got from any other essay. And thank you for your refreshing take on Filmation!
Oh my god! I can totally see the Diamond Dave influence on 30-30! Brilliant.
with the characters all so strong, would that mean new texas has a lighter gravity than the average?
I missed out on this series entirely. I saw some shows that tried to be inclusive of Native Americans and they were so bad. I dont remember them being offensive as I was too young to look for that, I just remember they were cheap looking and stupid, as well as pretty boring. It's hard to say if it was actually multiple shows I saw, or just one bad one, they all blur together. But I never saw Bravestarr. I never would have given it a chance after my past experiences. I came here to see how bad it could be and am so shocked to hear it was actually good! Really happy to have gotten such a great introduction to this show. I feel like I can maybe already call myself a fan of it, and it's such a shame I missed out on this back when it was new.
Reviews for old and forgotten shows are so damn important for this reason, so thankyou for this video, and hopefully the rest of your channel has more gems like this.
If you want more Indigenous American futurism, look into Coyote and Crow.
This series deserves the same reboot treatment as He-Man and She-Ra.
Hopefully better written.🤞
Me too.
The 2002 reboot, I hope.
I trust no reboot nowadays, but I understand the sentiment
Loved this wacky cyberpunk era. Biker Mice from Mars, Silver Hawks, Galaxy Rangers, SWAT Cats.... Something was in the water mid eighties to mid nineties. They always seemed to be just a bit hobbled somehow. Just shy of epic. Unfulfilled potential...
This was an interesting and informative video. Learned a lot of interesting facts here. BraveStar was another cartoon I enjoyed as a kid. Thirty Thirty was actually my second favorite character. I loved his transformation sequence from horse to humanoid.
Yes i remember seeing that drug episode as a child. They had really balls to show something dark like that and make it look serious and realistic and not like that Captain Planet episode with Boris' overdose
Wow this video really hits me in the feels. A lot of men today don't want to say they love another man cause "its gay" when love in of itself is caring for another person regardless of if they're a man or a woman. The whole notion that you have to be a man by being only strong without any semblance of kindness, understanding, emotions or feelings is sad. Today's men are being taught to only belittle those who are different or don't look the "right" way.
The show d its history really tells a lot about where one's priorities are between making an everlasting piece of media with passion or just making money cash grab with no heart in it whatsoever. I really appreciate what you do Aure to really show different pieces of media that even though I didn't grow up with; you show you have an appreciation for it! Keep doing what you do dear!
Love this reply Patrick, great takeaways!
27:22 That's an italian ad, and yet I don't think to have ever seen the toys in stores back in the day, maybe also because, sadly, in Italy Bravestarr aired first too early in the morning , and later on smaller channels where the broadcasting times were especially messy except for news and football, which also made it hard to watch regularly or in its entirety.
Luckily I did manage to watch a few episodes, and I do remember having a good time especially when the dingos were on (I wonder why XD), as well as my sister calling Thirtythirty ThirtySIX (she was little), and a schoolmate of mine confusing the show with "DarkStar".
Those sure were better times for animation as a whole, and not just for the overall quality, but indeed also for the messaging.
Thirtysix!! That's cute. Yes I heard Europe broadcast Bravestarr but I had yet to see much prove, so it's nice to hear your story! Airing too early in the day is what happened to the show in the US as well.
As I've told you previously, my experience with Bravestarr is very limited. Shoot, I can't even really remember where I watched it years ago. I mostly just remember that one episode where Bravestarr's hero kills some guy; which features one of the most jarring tonal shifts when it cuts from Bravestarr saying this guy is wanted for murder, right to the opening credits. Yet still, you and your deep dives seems to always manage to reach far off corners of the mind and reinvigorate old memories. I'll have to check out the movie. It looks awesome. Keep up the good work.
Wow! It’s been a while since I’ve seen this show. Many awesome memories, and of course my fav character was Thirty-Thirty😊 Love these investigative takes on some of the cool shows and other animation like this from the past👍
i remember this show. had a few of the tapes but had a lot of the books. from garage sales and book fairs at the local mall.
I remembered a time that I bought a sealed VHS Tape of Bravestarr from a Big Lots Store few years ago like possibly early 2010's.
Sometimes I feel I´m too old for movies (no matter if animated or not), but never old enough for THESE old bangers!
Since I was kid, I had never enough of cartoons with animal partners (or anthromorphic or furry - if you call them like that), which were plentiful. It stayed with me even after Cartoon Network stopped airing in my country (it was simply coded and it was end of old CN for me), so I was forced to watch Nickelodeon (German), which was great in the end. And I was able to understand two foreign languages as bonus.
Where was I, oh yes, animal partners stayed with me even today. And I can tell you, Thirty Thirty is embodiment of real life stallions - even the mellow ones can and WILL challenge you. Believe me, if they could talk human language, they would be like Thirty Thirty.
Fun little story: You know what´s their bane? Mares. I was spending a lot of time with one of the herd, so I was quickly accepted - you know, scritches and all that helped a lot, well and a new stallion was there, who wasn´t fine with that and tried to push me from them (they will try that, it´s not dangerous, but they are like moving wall), literally. Well, alpha mare wasn´t cool with that and was VERY furious, so she pushed him from me and gave him few pretty hard kicks. Then she returned to me and was simply like "You gave me scritches, remember, please continue".
So yeah, Thirty Thirty was hard as nails and couldn´t be more manly, but he had his good moments. Don´t know if they had somebody who had idea and transfered this from horse-like behaivour or men and horses aren´t that much different in this behaviour (which is more likely) xD
Cartoons might have made me furry and I wouldn´t be probably the only one. I just have different term for them, as I said, animal partners. I don´t think I´m a furry, becuse I don´t belong to any community, but I still belong to party of two hucul horses :) If you say, I´m a furry, I don´t think I would mind, though.
I loved Bravestarr since I got Bravestarr Compilation Movie on VHS as a birthday gift in the 90's from my Grandparents.
If I recall correctly from an interview on Netflix, the original creator of He-Man did not like the first animation design because he wasn't "manly" enough. Wanting him to be bulkier in his transformed state. The new series might be poking at that.
Loved this video! I collect memorabilia and the written media that was associated with this show. Good to see people taking about it!
Now I'm curious about your collection!
@@FurryFoundFootage I just got new stuff so I'm planning on making a post on my Tumblr. I'll tag ya when I do that!
This video is my first introduction to this channel, and I think I found a new fave. :)
Vaush wishes he was Thirty Thirty.
Surprised you didn't mention the new unlicensed Bravestarr figure released this year by Dasin! Hopefully we can get more
Actually Apache chief was the first native American hero appearing in 1977 with the super friends, and although not the main character all the time there were episodes he was.
i allways wantes know more about this serie , more of the horse beacause im a furry one lol
thx for this video , i follow you long time ago and this solved a lot of thougts
greetings from argentina
Yay! ¡Muchas gracias! A horse is a good animal to be.
You don't like them dropping the F-bomb every other word in modern animation? Looks right and looks left we both know everybody reading this wants to hear 3030 drop a few f-bombs in a remake of bravestar.;).
OH NO you got me, you're completely right, oh my god, and Bravestarr would be like "cut out that cussin' big pard!"
@@FurryFoundFootage lol Be threatening to wash out his mouth with soap Maybe lol. ? i loved 3030 but nover liked star much .but am a wolf and most wolves fever horses
I swear this looks really familar but not at the same time. Definitely want to give this a watch!
Great video, excellently done :)
So, you're the one who brought that animation cel!!!! The one featuring Thirty-Thirty in mid- strike against BraveStarr during their battle within the Hall of Equestriods. I had my eye on that! 😂😂
Awww sorry Winnie! Best of luck hunting for other cels!
Though ADHD kept me from dedicating time to watching this show when I was young (it aired here in the UK when I was six) I abdolutely adored it when I caught it! I really should set some time aside to watch it again. :D
Also loved the video! Subbed!
Loved this!! I enjoyed you posting clips on tumblr so much too.
Thank you! I post a bit more on my Twitter, which is @furryfootage
i somehow saw bravestarr as a little kid in the brief window of time that it reran on tv in like, 2011, and because i loved he-man and she-ra i loved it too. i also had it on dvd but i didnt know how to really take care of dvds as a five year old so i imagine it got pretty scratched up and had to be thrown away and was forgotten. but like two years ago i remembered it existed for the first time in like ten years, and have since seen all of it and its probably one of my favorite things Ever. this was a great deep dive!!! i plan on making a bravestarr video essay too some day! i found yours while researching lol 😆
also if you dont already know what it is you should 100% check out wild west c.o.w.-boys of moo mesa, its a 26 episode show from 1992 set in an 1800s western town populated entirely by different anthropromorphic animals. pat fraley voiced the main character. its pretty cool
I grew up watching it, it's actually on my list of episodes to do! Thanks for sharing your story!
I remember watching this late night on the channel Qubo: they had a lot of Filmation cartoons like He-Man, She-Ra, and Filmation's Ghostbusters, as well as some Christian cartoons like 3-2-1 Penguins and Veggie Tales and Canadian cartoons like Jacob Two-Two and Class of the Titans.
That Thumbnail is amazing 😂
I still think Filmation's Ghostbusters was superior because it had relatable baddies. Scaredstiff was the perfect representation of my young cowardly self. I felt empowered by having a somewhat sympathetic representation of that in cartoons... Plus every now and then he did sneak a zinger in, defending it even in the face of inevitable punishment. Man I loved that silly show. Columbia's ghostbusters was a fun watch too don't get me wrong, but mostly because it was Seinfeld gets into uncanny situations
I would do anything for Prime Evil
I'm down for Bravestarr in the modern area so long Kevin Smith is out of table.
You literally mentioned Brave Stars posterior and then make a comment about film Nation being the G place to be in the 1980s LOL. I thought I was the only person that noticed little bits of meal on meal and you Endo in bravestar like the fight scene when bravestar and 3030 first meet a lot of us in the free community watching that as adults had a very different take on the fight scene LOL especially the scene after they're finished fighting and what it looks like when taken out of context;). Given you normally do more obscure stuff on the little surprised to see you touch on bravestar. I'm guessing at some point you've done a video on rock and roll if you haven't done one yet on rock and roll I really hope you get to watch it if I'm not mistaken it was made in Canada and it's a very rare piece of 1980s anthropomorphic material which was very adult borderline rock opera. I think I have a VHS copy of the Brave star movie and if I'm not mistaken I've got DVD copy. Been trying to get the DVD set without it being a bootleg. I got lucky at one point and got some 80s cartoon DVD sets in a dollar bin Believe It or Not several years ago box set to of Shira as an example and one of the box sets of He-Man I think I've got all the cops and Crooks DVDs the same way and the dic GI Joe box sets. Can't remember if I've got the film Nation Ghostbusters DVD set or not. Yeah I'm a child of the 80s and I didn't think I'd live long enough to see physical media going away. One of these days I'm going to have to break down and go through a couple hundred VHS tapes I've got here and cross checks see if there's anything there in the Obscure stuff that is furry that you may not have had cross your radar LOL I'm pretty sure you did super bear from Britain as an example which is a pretty deep cut. You'd be surprised how many anthropomorphic movies there were done in other countries like Britain that even by today's standards are pretty risque and more like therefore adults like the original Littles movie was heavily at all and gave a lot of us kids nightmares where the titular character Henry big was beaten and abused buy a caretaker even in prison and locked in the basement
Can we get a video on Lunarics Unleashed?
I actually don’t mind he-mans design. They kinda made everyone more buff not just him. Hell orko(I can’t remember how to pronounce his name,the little wizard) is more buff. I don’t get any of that vibe at all it felt more like just a general design change then one that was made to cater to a particular group. If it was just him that changed it would make more sense.
I also wanna say I haven’t watched the new series just seen clips and saw the designs. I remember watching he man years ago on a retro channel and always interpreted it not as “manly man” and more as becoming stronger for the people you love and want to protect. Eh but that’s just my take, over analyzing shows made to sell toys is funny business
Update, I watched the first episode of the Netflix show art looks good. Writing….not good. Very poor did not get past the first episode the main female lead annoyed me so much. if my brother was presumed dead I wouldn’t start making it all about me and how I feel
I see what Netflix was typing to do and as a woman I despise pandering.
I have actually watched Bravestar recently (well we finished it a few months ago) with my friends. And honestly it was really fun, and at times INCREDIBLY UNHINGED! Like that episode where they showed a child OVERDOSE ON DRUGS AND SHOWED HIS GRAVE AT THE END OF THE EPISODE! You can never see this coming!
Honestly I am commenting because your thumbnail is amazing. Just..........wow, A+.
Thought if this is a channel about Furries, may I submit the following topics.
1) Animalympics
2) Fritz the cat
3)Swat Cats
4) Biker Mice From Mars
There are many other examples, but I feel these 4 are under the radar of most conversations of the..............genre?
I mentioned Biker Mice in this video, I actually haven't seen it yet!
I think Thirty is going to "Deep dive" into something else...
How come every time there is a culture other than anything white, to depict it in any media in any way is "stereotyped"? The current environment seems to think that unless the culture is presented by whatever ethnicity is being represented, it is somehow invalid. Unless it's ridiculing or denigrating white people, which is fine. I've lived all my life in New Mexico, and as a kid, Bravestarr was pretty cool. There were many Navajo at my school, and nobody ever made fun of the show for anything other than it being goofy in spots. Kids are savagely vicious, but pissing on Bravestarr because the main character was an Indian wasn't even a thing. One of the Navajo kids even named his gelding 30-30. If anything, the representation of spirituality and animals sparked many kids, including myself, to talk to the indian kids about it. Contrary to popular belief, kids can actually be pretty smart(or used to be, anyway) and we all knew that it was a cartoon and indians couldn't just rub a magic amulet and run like a puma. But we DID ask about actual spiritualism, and it sparked an interest and appreciation for Native Spirituality I still have at 48. Bravestarr was hardly in the school zeitgeist like Transformers and GI Joe, but in the 70's & 80's, part of the curriculum in school was learning about native american tribes and culture, and things like fetishes(small stone carvings in the shape of animals that can provide some benefit like good fortune or strength), Kachina Dolls, the Horno, and the differences and similarities of the Zuni, Hopi, and Navajo tribes helped children(myself included) learn about these different cultures.
Stereotypes exist for a reason, and the leftist desire to remove any references to Native culture in any form, be it on a butter label or in a sportball team, succeeds only in removing it from view, and relegating their cultural significance into obscurity. I agree that **NEGATIVE** stereotypes are unproductive, but Bravestarr never played like that. It was a Filmation cartoon, which meant slick animation, attention to detail, lots of reused animation sequences, catchy music and characters that endure even 30 years later. I'm not a HUGE fan of the show, but it was definitely part of my childhood like He-Man, Ghostbusters, and Atari.
Once again the algorithm pays off. I'd love to see you do a video on Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers at some point.
I have it on DVD, it's also incredibly good!
Great video. Who did your thumbnail drawing btw? It’s cute! 🥰
Ah! My partner: twitter.com/luciushargrave
@@FurryFoundFootageThanks! I’ll give your partner a follow!
@@FurryFoundFootage Great choice for a thumbnail 😊👍
One thing that always confused me, is there's one episode [or maybe it's the movie] where 30/30 refers to himself as a "Techno Horse" I've never been sure if he's 'real' [You see him eat and drink] a Cyborg, Robot or what ? also his Tiara thing is like a antenna for a communicator he sometimes uses
He's a chili-hog canonically 😳
You were right, in your first stream, that horse could stand to gain a few pounds. XD
I made it happen, too!
@@FurryFoundFootage Maybe the judge could gain some pounds too. XD
Pregnancy and Giving Birth? Which episode is That?
Episode 42: Sunrise, Sunset
P L O W
I'm noticing a trend with the animation cels you bought :P
I like a big fella who has a hoof or two
Abd of course having *that episode* made a lasting impression not only on us kids but the adults in the room. WOO boy a real on screen death, in a kids cartoon, by drugs?!. Yeah they got a ton of flak about that and to this day still one of those *bad* episodes, like the panda-la episode in talespin.
"oohoho i certainly hope she will remember me" that voice was always so very unkind to my ears even as a child lol...
Bravestarr was from my childhood bro, and trust me girl you ain't the only one who don't be THIRSTING for Thirty-Thirty, he's such a fucking BOMBSHELL!!!!😭💕✨🔥💅💋🏳️🌈👑🐎
It need a reboot or a new show
26:41 We sure the creators of the Bad Guys movie didn't watch this episode?
Also for Vipra, I kinda hate how every time there's an anthropomorphized woman in media they have to look attractive to the point where they look less anthropomorphic. It's a creativity thing if you're going to make a hybrid make them look like a hybrid, also not every female character has to be attractive, and being attractive is subjective. Like the male anthros can look weird, but the ladies are usually hot, Beast from the X-Men can always talk about society never accepting him and how isolated he feels, but you apply it to a woman she's always written as wanting to find love.
I totally agree, considering there's a perfectly furry snake person design in this show, it's odd that she didn't get the same treatment. That said, I still love her, she's ridiculous.
You will never ever see a cartoon like Bravestarr ever again. Ever.
Dont know if I would trust a new bravestarr, writers are doing kind of bad job lately
I feel that. My hope is it would stand out from the pack but who knows these days. The saddest part is I think it'll get worse before it gets better.
Quiche. The dish of pacifists.
26:17 RAT MAN!!!!! ✌❤🐀
The series could use a very furry remake...
Do you like the show wild West Cowboys
Moo Mesa? Absolutely!
@@FurryFoundFootage well, then make a video talking about it because it’s an underrated gem
@@eerieeric834 Pro tip giving other people orders on what to make videos on comes off as a bit obnoxious
@@prixe12 sorry 😞
I loved Bravestarr, but the characters weren’t “furries”, they were anthropomorphic.
Furry is really only a retrospective designation, no one was thinking in modern terms back then after all
27:26 Those are some pretty Ugly looking ones.
Yeah these modern remakes cost waaay more than traditionally animated films. I really dont like modern disney.