The LIGHTEST Rim Brake Cannondale SuperSix Ever?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
  • The Cannondale Supersix is a dreamy climbing bike. But what if you used a robot to strip its paint and excess carbon?
    Current men’s National Hill Climb Champion Andrew Feather did just that, before building it up with a host of exotic parts. This rim brake dream has to be one of the best hill climb builds of all time.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:34 Stripping The Paint
    03:15 Groupset
    04:03 Brakes
    04:33 Power Meter
    06:07 Junction A box
    07:39 Computer Mount
    08:08 Seat
    08:53 Wheel Set
    10:35 Weighing
    11:30 Comparing To The Lab 71
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Комментарии • 81

  • @Colinke
    @Colinke 21 день назад +33

    As time goes by, we might see bikes evolve by years, but you can always surely see cannondale Supersix shines every year!

    • @JNorth87
      @JNorth87 21 день назад +5

      Best Frame ever made if you dont need more than 25mm tire in the rear.

  • @gravelDave
    @gravelDave 21 день назад +10

    Give Andrew a hug please.

  • @chrisvanbuggenum871
    @chrisvanbuggenum871 21 день назад +7

    As a rider of a 2012 supersix evo ultimate, its always good to see a traditional rim brake hill climb bike.

    • @yonglingng5640
      @yonglingng5640 20 дней назад

      There was one time I was in a bike shop and saw a second-generation SuperSix EVO. Not only is it still brand new, it's also my size!
      I was shocked speechless at that time.

  • @Ey_up
    @Ey_up 21 день назад +5

    More Jack Luke!
    More niche steel bikes with rim brakes!
    Thank you. 😊

  • @danielPrologo1
    @danielPrologo1 21 день назад +12

    Always rim brake

  • @FL-ym6hm
    @FL-ym6hm 21 день назад +1

    Love the Super Six. What a purpose built machine. Damn!!!

  • @swites
    @swites 18 дней назад

    5kgs! Pretty incredible. Always wondered how a bike this light would feel next to my 7.6kg one. That rim brake bike is a work of art really. Love the simplicity of the brakes, seat post, stem, and handlebars. All easily adjustable, fine tuned, or changed at home in a few minutes really. And also love the fact it doesn't look like all the other modern bikes with the drop seat stays etc. Those colourful anodised brakes are also another nice touch against the matt black frame.

  • @ericsyd
    @ericsyd 21 день назад +4

    Not sure I get the logic of removing 200g of carbon fibre from a frame but keeping a power meter.

  • @samhamfast
    @samhamfast 21 день назад

    I ride a SuperSix Evo with disc brakes but I've got to say that I love this classic rim brake bike.

  • @wrcompositi
    @wrcompositi 21 день назад +5

    I don't understand the logic of "parts bin build" on a heavily modified frame. Although a 600g modified SS evo frame is impressive, but a stock frame without paint is already as low as 700g. Instead of shaving carbon from the frame, there are apparently many low hanging fruits to reduce the weight of this bike. Lighter parts such as THM, Darimo, custom wheels, custom saddle-post one-piece combo...
    Are flat bar bikes allowed in UK hill climb races? I've seen many nice sub-5kg bikes for these races, but not spotted any flat bar, which should save some more weight.

  • @filipsoltys5504
    @filipsoltys5504 21 день назад +18

    5.080 wet. Reckon its sub 5 if you dried it off

    • @marklydall8635
      @marklydall8635 21 день назад

      ditch the power meter/di2

    • @jheiethutz
      @jheiethutz 21 день назад +2

      @@marklydall8635 and change it to sram red 22 . big weight savings

  • @straightcirclee
    @straightcirclee 21 день назад +2

    What a coincidence i just watched your winning bike with disc brakes in the Struggle national hill climb 2023..

  • @ScottCopeland-yh9lm
    @ScottCopeland-yh9lm 21 день назад

    Great chat on Path Less Pedaled. Well done on your channel. I think you might have something here.

  • @timtaylor9590
    @timtaylor9590 21 день назад +4

    andrew rides a lot racking up koms all the time he uses this bike, for racing he has to use the disc for his sponsors. that says something

  • @Epson5000
    @Epson5000 21 день назад +9

    fitting surname

  • @sapiens7821
    @sapiens7821 21 день назад +2

    Pure Roadies those in the know from the rim brake era Cannondale Supersix Evo Is what a bike should be, light, fast, agile, responsive, great in high winds. These are like hens teeth now.
    Would love to see Cannondale make an anniversary rim brake edition.

    • @ejw4300
      @ejw4300 19 дней назад +1

      yep. nostalgia is high with this bike

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell 17 дней назад +1

      I don't ride mine anymore, but I won't sell mine either.

  • @nickredvideo
    @nickredvideo 20 дней назад +1

    39-28? Man he must be strong.

  • @vonWeizhacker69
    @vonWeizhacker69 21 день назад

    sehr schöner hobel!

  • @pierrex3226
    @pierrex3226 21 день назад +1

    Would be very curious to see testing between the two bikes. That lab 71 was stupid light already, so then maybe it indeed is faster because it's stiffer? But also that supersix rim was peak rim brake, so may have been plenty stiff? The tyres would have to the same ofc to mean anything.
    But really, really cool build.
    Fitting for a boy named feather, too.

    • @jheiethutz
      @jheiethutz 21 день назад

      yeah .that LAB71 is light. but that model of SSE HM is lighter. i think he answered why he didnt chose LAB71

  • @BikeLife154
    @BikeLife154 21 день назад +1

    Supersix evo every time!

  • @PeakTorque
    @PeakTorque 20 дней назад +2

    Sorry what calc or software are the company using to measure wall thickness?! What you showed is a 3d scan of the outside

    • @barneybromhall3159
      @barneybromhall3159 20 дней назад +2

      I would assume ultrasound points mapped onto the external scan and projected inwards to create internal surfaces.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  18 дней назад

      Oscar went into more detail in his written piece, but an ultrasound depth check shows them where they can skim off some carbon - www.bikeradar.com/features/pro-bike/andrew-feather-cannondale-supersix-evo

    • @PeakTorque
      @PeakTorque 18 дней назад

      @@bikeradar nice!

  • @roa5359
    @roa5359 21 день назад +1

    I guess it doesn’t hurt so much if your frame breaks when you ride uphill 😂

  • @emiliogirelagonzalez1809
    @emiliogirelagonzalez1809 15 дней назад

    I have the same brake from alixpress, brake good, not as same at shimano, but for the price and weight its worth it.

  • @borano2031
    @borano2031 21 день назад +2

    Front mech plate still there!! Rgr

    • @rob-c.
      @rob-c. 21 день назад +2

      As it’s riveted on, it’s probably structural at this point! 😂

    • @borano2031
      @borano2031 21 день назад

      @@rob-c. A bandaid is lighter and would do the same job!! Rgr

  • @javabk
    @javabk 21 день назад

    I built an aethos at 5.15.. remove the bartape as he has, and it’s the same weight.. disk clincher wheels with original paint😎

  • @cauldron101
    @cauldron101 21 день назад +5

    Those Cane Creek rim brakes although they look gorgeous, at $400 or more they certainly leave some sour taste.

    • @yonglingng5640
      @yonglingng5640 21 день назад +2

      They can also damage the down tube of some framesets when it's steered all the way. Shimano's rim brakes at least have a rubber bumper, the eeBrakes are just aluminium ramming into the frame.

  • @aidesbnlee5422
    @aidesbnlee5422 21 день назад +1

    Wanna get a pair of carbon rim brakes wheel set. Wanna ask you all will it harder to brake when it is wet?

    • @xfg007
      @xfg007 21 день назад

      Yes I would not trust going downhill in the wet with carbon brake tracks

    • @aidesbnlee5422
      @aidesbnlee5422 21 день назад

      @@xfg007 Guess I should keep using my aluminum wheels

  • @jesmondo5785
    @jesmondo5785 21 день назад

    Sounds like Jen from IT Crowd saying computer

  • @andymoss4285
    @andymoss4285 20 дней назад

    That cassette looks like it has some excess metal. Job for next year?

  • @Gufolicious
    @Gufolicious 21 день назад

    new one all the way. that one is basically a single use case while the other is ridable everywhere.

  • @andrewsiasparks
    @andrewsiasparks 21 день назад +2

    If you're racing up a hill do you really need brakes?

    • @rob-c.
      @rob-c. 21 день назад +2

      Hill Climb rule dictate you have to have them

  • @Ninjump
    @Ninjump 19 дней назад

    I had a supersix like that, regrett selling it to this day😢

  • @tcctcc3785
    @tcctcc3785 21 день назад +1

    So he is switching back to rim brakes eh?

  • @millermiller75
    @millermiller75 21 день назад

    I want to see some lightweight shoes. And drilled out helmet.

  • @ArjanGroe
    @ArjanGroe 21 день назад

    Is it me or are tge rear brake pads set not really over /aligning with the brake surface of the rim?

    • @adccars359
      @adccars359 21 день назад

      Not Crazy at all and the stem bolts look terribly stripped. His bike mechanic does not like him.

  • @JonFairhurst
    @JonFairhurst 21 день назад +6

    For the real world, I’d take the Lab 71. The lighter bike would be marginally better going up the hill, but the aero, disc, solid yet compliant bike would give me much more confidence on the way back down.

  • @Alex-md6bu
    @Alex-md6bu 21 день назад

    Feels like it’s going to break, maybe that’s why cannondale put that extra carbon on it 😅

  • @JoshuaTootell
    @JoshuaTootell 17 дней назад

    In the real world, I'd take the modern bike.
    But I love my old SuperSix so much that I won't part with it.

  • @Chris-xv2gm
    @Chris-xv2gm 21 день назад +1

    Brakes look low on the rim.

  • @germurphy4986
    @germurphy4986 21 день назад +7

    SRAM Red mech and a THM crank it would be 4.5kg

  • @gur262
    @gur262 21 день назад

    But what about descending? MTB got slacker. Motorcycles are slacker. I wonder if a longer slacker rigid bike with 2.0-2.4 slicks might be much better descending. My commuter definitely felt very nervous above 50 kmh. My rim brakes weren't the issue either but grip and the point of going over the bars were limiting, with 1.4 Tyres. Need to see a hillbomb bike. Perhaps a rigid Xc mtb with wtb thickslicks?

    • @yonglingng5640
      @yonglingng5640 20 дней назад +1

      Bikes with more fork trail are indeed more stable at higher speeds. Road-oriented bikes have shorter fork trail to quicken steering response at the cost of high-speed stability, though I'm not too sure about urban commuter bikes.

  • @philipcooper8297
    @philipcooper8297 20 дней назад

    5.08 Kg wet, 4.99 Kg dry 😅

  • @Lillee1969
    @Lillee1969 18 дней назад

    The rain water on the bike would weigh more than 80g just saying

  • @timtaylor9590
    @timtaylor9590 21 день назад

    ill never understand the taint squeezing and smashing through the hole of a seat.

  • @mikicastan
    @mikicastan 21 день назад +1

    Put the real expander plug Andrew there,please,you'r gona brake your neck

  • @gjrseveri
    @gjrseveri 21 день назад

    5.080kg for a all wet bike actually....🤣could be saving a few more grams if it was a sunny day....

  • @jonienglish3231
    @jonienglish3231 21 день назад

    Need to convert to Disc brake

  • @Daniel-ynuhnunu
    @Daniel-ynuhnunu 21 день назад

    First😊

  • @pullyourluck
    @pullyourluck 15 дней назад

    i get the paint removal. but the removal of excess carbon has me concerned. Granted he'll only go uphill...but this bike most certainly will have a limited life....and those brakes are historically absolutely terrible

  • @IvanMalechko
    @IvanMalechko 21 день назад +4

    Aside from all the other religious debates… This hoods positioning looks especially disturbing.

    • @edrcozonoking
      @edrcozonoking 21 день назад +1

      If it works for him ...

    • @stevemiell4555
      @stevemiell4555 21 день назад +2

      If you've ever watched him climb, at an amazing pace, you'd know he rides out of the saddle always, hence the hoods...

    • @IvanMalechko
      @IvanMalechko 21 день назад

      @@stevemiell4555

    • @IvanMalechko
      @IvanMalechko 21 день назад +2

      @@stevemiell4555 Yes, particularly when riding steep uphill and out of the saddle, this angle makes even less sense to me :). I would assume they need to be set even lower than the normal neutral position to compensate for the bike angle and standing above the handlebars. But it definitely works for him-amazing performance.

  • @sean95451
    @sean95451 14 дней назад

    This is the reason we need to have UCI min weight. These stupid guys removed a layer of carbon! It is one of the most dangerous supersix bike to ride with, ...

  • @unklesannjay
    @unklesannjay 21 день назад

    Those cane creek brakes are aliexpress fakes!

    • @broady666
      @broady666 21 день назад +3

      Nah they look legit going by the bolts / details.

  • @mzimmma
    @mzimmma 20 дней назад +1

    rim brake 🤮

  • @WerdnaLiten
    @WerdnaLiten 21 день назад +1

    All a bit OTT just to ride uphill........More Weightweenie nonsense!!

    • @rob-c.
      @rob-c. 21 день назад +7

      How can you say “Weightweenie nonsense” in the same sentence as “just to ride uphill” 🤦‍♂️

    • @bengt_axle
      @bengt_axle 21 день назад +11

      Not just to ride up the hill, but to WIN the race up the hill. Andrew Feather is a hill climb champion.