I think the angle they chose isn't good to show it, but you can tell from how they drive into angle that they're past 90 on initiation. these dudes are definitely capable enough to follow the name of the comp
angle showed nicely and was multiple of them but has nothing to do with it. most drifts were just regular initiations, was not many backies at all (back tires in front of you not beside or else your just drifting) you can tell when they did it right cuz there trajectory will be different than a regular drift. And yes there capable of following the name of the comp but that dont mean they cant suck at backies. i watch people do them all the time irl and on youtube i know what im talking about and how to do them. All in all Formula drift usa is just loosing itself everyday trying to milk whatever they can out of it before people start realizing, japan should just take drifting back over and make it real again@@TheOtherPlayer
I can appreciate FD trying new things, shakes up the norm. It would be awesome to see a form of freestyle competition along with the usual competition rounds, it could be an exciting addition to the series.
Luke Fink would be the backie king then now and probably forever. The guy is on another level. James Dean and Chelsea denofa come close but just miss that little bit of flare that Luke has
I feel like all three of those guys would put on a good show. Add Naoki and Julian from Animal Style... I'd pay to see it. And whoever else can throw it to 110. Only a couple people in this event did it barely to 90. You can make up excuses on bad corner or whatever but any of those guys we listed would have gone big.
Ngl Ik Adam is a fanboy drifter but I feel he would do pretty good in this event especially with the mustang that man may drive like a physco but he can whip nasty entries with the mustang
I was so happy to see these retired legends back in the car. also I did not expect them to bring RSR Supra and Apexi RX7 back, like damn, thats my childhood right there. imo, Apexi rx7 is still the best looking rx7
Still funny seeing Masuyama's US car there as a loaner. Absolute chad drove through the night to bring it to the event. He's really chill too. Theres a reason he's one of my favorite drivers in FD. You can always trust Hibino to throw his car in hard, he's got some wild style.
Hell yeah! i second this! They would just about throw a car away to show some spice and get backwards for the audience. These guys seems mostly unprepared. sounded like they didnt really get much time with the run and just kinda fell flat bc of that. Also, the camera angles were not the best. cant really see the cars angle bc of that.
Blegh, those 1000HP hyper-drift car machines would just make it worse for the fans who only wants to see just friendly-drifting. And take all the shine from those legendary RX7 and Supra.
Odi Bakchis is my absolute favourite. FEAL suspensions from the Zero to peak performance with the best trademarks, propably even better. Gotta raise my hat to that fellow. And he don't seem to age, as he has been on the top for ages. Proof that motorsports is good for your health and that Jesus did not lie, sayin "Humans don't live of bread only". You need to have fun and enjoy living. Work what you love to do, torturing yuorself for money, is a way to early grave. All can't be motorsports stars, but all can find a profession they love to do.
They need to move the start WAY more back to do BACKIES! Where they start is where they need to be in high motion already. - sick to see all the legends tho! Chicken Skin. 🤘
I feel like FD could really use some more old school Hoongan "ain't care' vibes. Less rules, more passion. I've seen local drift days with more intense backies than this. Love the event, keep it going. Just want some real reverse entries lol
No, actually taking attention away from the thing that literally employs people and lets them live their dreams is actually a bad idea. There is a time and place for ancillary activities and we actually have done a lot of them: RSR, Turn 14 project of the same ilk, Nitto Day, SEMAFEST are all things we have constructed, 5 seasons of drifting development in Qatar, the first to ever drift Yas Marina in Abu Dhabi, the only Asian Championship that was broadcast on national television for 7 years, Formula DRIFT Asia....I think we do more than just the Series, but if you are talking about what moves the actual needle, it's building FD just like you would build something like the NFL Supercross or MLB. Homerun Derby contests and Big Air comps are cool; Passing exhibitions have their place, but they are not the foundation or what actually creates an industry, especially not at this early stage of only 20 years. @@mintyCS
Backie contents should be a regular thing for Formula D! BTW nobody mentioned what would happen if you brought on our boi Travis Pastrana as he's the king of backies - I mean the name of the car is called the "Huckster" LOL
It was just the wrong corner for this comp, the last turn at the end with u turn shape would have been perfect. The cam angle wasn't good to show the angle thrown either but love the idea
Luke Fink yer those that know, know that is one bloke that would love to be in this competition and just give him an AU Falcon or a Holden Commodore that's all he would need 🤣🤙🇦🇺
Backie is a way cooler term and it was what we would have liked to see. Obviously, commenters know much more about drifting than the drivers, but that's the point; once you get an online account you become an expert in everything. That's the cool part.
@@formuladrift hey man I've got a Reddit account and too much spare time, I am an expert! Joking aside I think this sort of format is good, it's always been a blast virtually, gives an opportunity for style to come through and negates car advantage on a reasonable layout.
Orido back with the OG RSR Supra and cowboy hat and flame racing suit. It's like bringing back an old WWF guy into the ring. lmfao amazing ~ Disappointed in these "backies"
Because the event was constructed by RSR and they wanted old Japanese stars and modern FD guys who could transport together their cars from a singular location.
They should have just had people lapping the track with some judges sat on the corner watching. It doesn't have to be so serious. It sucks all the fun out of it.
Hibino is really really such a dope drifter! I do wonder why Chelsea wasn't here - I know he stepped out for a bit but isn't he like the biggest backwards entry type bro? :D Either way cool vid!!! Thanks.
Sorry but any Suzuka Twin fan knows that placing the start box at the start of the straight is crap for backies. This course calls for a running start up the straight. Thats how yall will find the “impactful” entry youre looking for
I get it, formula drift judges think you can't follow a car doing backies in comp. I think some tracks have a first corner where the lead car should be able to throw a backie (for extra style points or whatever you guys score these days) and the rest of the track be drifted as "normal". Nothing gets the fans as hyped as backies and imagine if the chase car was able to mimic on that first corner. If you guys can find a way to incorporate them into your "rules", it would only gain FD's popularity (I might even subscribe and start watching again lol).
Flick does not equal backie. Asbo's first run had zero backie (if your car does not go over 90 degrees to the wall, not a backie). If you do not do a backie, you should not get a score over 50.
I appreciate the effort FD, despite other negative comments. Even my comment seems negative, I just was drifting to become bigger. Closer door to door runs (not setting up rules that discourage tapping the lead driver) and backies are definitely the move. And I realize I am talking to the void and probably looks cringe lol.
Is this really serious? Did the legendary IMAMURA completing the route score fewer points than those who rode it or didn't even complete it? I hope it's just a joke
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First of its kind! A backie comp, with absolutely no backies! Amazing!
I think the angle they chose isn't good to show it, but you can tell from how they drive into angle that they're past 90 on initiation. these dudes are definitely capable enough to follow the name of the comp
It's also the turn we had to use. @@TheOtherPlayer
angle showed nicely and was multiple of them but has nothing to do with it. most drifts were just regular initiations, was not many backies at all (back tires in front of you not beside or else your just drifting) you can tell when they did it right cuz there trajectory will be different than a regular drift. And yes there capable of following the name of the comp but that dont mean they cant suck at backies. i watch people do them all the time irl and on youtube i know what im talking about and how to do them. All in all Formula drift usa is just loosing itself everyday trying to milk whatever they can out of it before people start realizing, japan should just take drifting back over and make it real again@@TheOtherPlayer
It's also the fact that half of the cars are from like 20 years ago before backies were even a thing and their setups reflect that
@@formuladriftwhat’s stopping you from using the hairpin? Even had a camera. Like the idea tho
I can appreciate FD trying new things, shakes up the norm. It would be awesome to see a form of freestyle competition along with the usual competition rounds, it could be an exciting addition to the series.
Luke Fink would be the backie king then now and probably forever. The guy is on another level. James Dean and Chelsea denofa come close but just miss that little bit of flare that Luke has
right? Luke does bigger backies during tandems than this entire event pulled
Bro also JTP
Nahhhhhh forever and always Chelsea is the backie king. But fink does have the extra flair but Chelsea gets a lot more angle
@@DBDmicroall the people saying tbis have never watched nakamura or Kawabata
I feel like all three of those guys would put on a good show. Add Naoki and Julian from Animal Style... I'd pay to see it. And whoever else can throw it to 110. Only a couple people in this event did it barely to 90. You can make up excuses on bad corner or whatever but any of those guys we listed would have gone big.
Absolutely love to see you lot playing around with formats! The more drift content, the better in my eyes
Chelsea should have definitely been invited to this. He’s the king of backies
Chelsea, mad mike, diago. Just a few that I thought for sure would be in a backie comp.
I think you spelt Naoki wrong
Masato Kawabata the goat
Luke fink is backie king
He was. Lots of drivers were asked. Traveling, especially during Thanksgiving is quite hard I'd imagine.
As others have already said........You can't have a backie comp without Luke Fink 🇦🇺 SHIBBY 🤙I also agree that Chelsea Denofa would kill it also 👍
Luke fink would crush this
Ngl Ik Adam is a fanboy drifter but I feel he would do pretty good in this event especially with the mustang that man may drive like a physco but he can whip nasty entries with the mustang
@@griffinwelsh james deane also does some insane backies in his rx7 and e92 m3 car. his video at the nurburgring is crazy how much angle has.
💯 if anyone would be the king it's luke
I was so happy to see these retired legends back in the car.
also I did not expect them to bring RSR Supra and Apexi RX7 back, like damn, thats my childhood right there. imo, Apexi rx7 is still the best looking rx7
Still funny seeing Masuyama's US car there as a loaner. Absolute chad drove through the night to bring it to the event. He's really chill too. Theres a reason he's one of my favorite drivers in FD. You can always trust Hibino to throw his car in hard, he's got some wild style.
These are totally the wrong camera ''angles' to make a backie look big
I think the camera that was facing the cars is the only one that shows the backies well
All of them didn't even do big backies only odi did one but a small one so they ahould get the grassroots guys in Japan. THose guys can huck
The was Only 2 big bakies. And the wernt even big
James deane can do better angles in his vlogs
Very agreeable comment here, should be on right side of track for good angle or drone cam.
Man it's so great to see some of the OGs in competitive drifting, along with historic cars. Imamura's RX7 is timeless.
Back when D1 cars were street legal ehhehe
Finaly!!! Starting to see trick comps. Will be good to see this one in the future when more tricksters are in the comp.
Would love to see a "Special Stage" in the US tour for the entire US roster to compete
Hell yeah! i second this! They would just about throw a car away to show some spice and get backwards for the audience. These guys seems mostly unprepared. sounded like they didnt really get much time with the run and just kinda fell flat bc of that. Also, the camera angles were not the best. cant really see the cars angle bc of that.
Dream drift car: Imamura's A'Pexi FD RX7 (and Kazama's Kei Office S15 plus Kumakubo's Blobeye STI)
get luke fink there. all of these were piss weak lol
luke "the backie daddy" fink
Came here to comment this lol
Naoki would throw the biggest backie forsure.
Should have saved time and just let Chelsea, Luke and James throw down
Hopefully next time this comp runs they do some backies
Love where this is going, You need Luke Fink for the next one!
I like the approach to doing something new in comp like this
Imamura-San's FD Livery looks absolutely cool
James knows how to throw reverse entries
Would have loved to see the RTR team there
Blegh, those 1000HP hyper-drift car machines would just make it worse for the fans who only wants to see just friendly-drifting. And take all the shine from those legendary RX7 and Supra.
Cool idea. They threw some decent angle. But I'm not sure I saw one Backie...
🇦🇺👍 Luke Fink would have qualified 1 in his Ford Falcon !
Needs the king of backies....LUKE FINK!!!
Think they should of thrown luke fink in there hes a backie master
Odi Bakchis is my absolute favourite. FEAL suspensions from the Zero to peak performance with the best trademarks, propably even better. Gotta raise my hat to that fellow. And he don't seem to age, as he has been on the top for ages. Proof that motorsports is good for your health and that Jesus did not lie, sayin "Humans don't live of bread only". You need to have fun and enjoy living. Work what you love to do, torturing yuorself for money, is a way to early grave. All can't be motorsports stars, but all can find a profession they love to do.
Luke Fink would have smashed this comp. Bakchis was the only one that could probs even come close.
7:49 I'm sure Orido appreciates being listed at 20 years younger than he actually is 😊🎉
Needs Luke fink, mad mike and Denofa here!
*We need to get James Deane and Luke Fink American citizenship*
As a dirt driver. This is not backing it in no matter what the camera angle is.
They need to move the start WAY more back to do BACKIES! Where they start is where they need to be in high motion already. - sick to see all the legends tho! Chicken Skin. 🤘
Bring back the Hot Version JP vs USA tourney at Irwindale!!!!
Should of invited the RTR boys!!! Would of been awesome to see a mustang doing backies in Japan
They were. Lots were. Only some could make it or sacrifice time with family during Thanksgiving.
Denofa is the backie king.
I wish the fd rx7 would’ve reversed entry too 🔥
Nice, but we need more backies ;-)
Man would have loved to see mad Mike at this event
I feel like FD could really use some more old school Hoongan "ain't care' vibes. Less rules, more passion. I've seen local drift days with more intense backies than this. Love the event, keep it going. Just want some real reverse entries lol
Other people can do that. We have to focus on what makes careers and longevity. We don't need to be the answer for everyone.
@@formuladrift That closed off mindset is what's stopping this from being something bigger.
No, actually taking attention away from the thing that literally employs people and lets them live their dreams is actually a bad idea. There is a time and place for ancillary activities and we actually have done a lot of them: RSR, Turn 14 project of the same ilk, Nitto Day, SEMAFEST are all things we have constructed, 5 seasons of drifting development in Qatar, the first to ever drift Yas Marina in Abu Dhabi, the only Asian Championship that was broadcast on national television for 7 years, Formula DRIFT Asia....I think we do more than just the Series, but if you are talking about what moves the actual needle, it's building FD just like you would build something like the NFL Supercross or MLB. Homerun Derby contests and Big Air comps are cool; Passing exhibitions have their place, but they are not the foundation or what actually creates an industry, especially not at this early stage of only 20 years. @@mintyCS
Ebisu Minami will forever hold the craziest entries
Backie contents should be a regular thing for Formula D! BTW nobody mentioned what would happen if you brought on our boi Travis Pastrana as he's the king of backies - I mean the name of the car is called the "Huckster" LOL
😮😢
If only Kawabata-san was here...
Estas son las competencias que me gustan 😍
It was just the wrong corner for this comp, the last turn at the end with u turn shape would have been perfect. The cam angle wasn't good to show the angle thrown either but love the idea
taniguchi holds the best backie record in his blue 180sx
Masato Kawabata?
That is not a 2jz bmw, that is a diesel
Where's Luke Fink to clear this up for everyone..
The tighter turn and better camera angles next time, I also would prefer this freestyle stuff more than the usual FD judging and setup.
Bring the backie comp to Australia. Blokes with $10k cars will show you how it’s done
they needed a longer run up
we need a whole USA season judged by Japanese FD judges.
The FD Japan and US judges overlap. Most of them are the same
Just take the "X-Factor" off
We gotchoo@@gaudelio25
Luke Fink yer those that know, know that is one bloke that would love to be in this competition and just give him an AU Falcon or a Holden Commodore that's all he would need 🤣🤙🇦🇺
13:13 this is the first one I seen and they didn’t even call it out. I think they made a mistake having them try it on the first turn.
Just call it what it is, a best run/entry comp and get away from all the 'nOt bAcKiE' comments or need to run a specific corner in future.
Backie is a way cooler term and it was what we would have liked to see. Obviously, commenters know much more about drifting than the drivers, but that's the point; once you get an online account you become an expert in everything. That's the cool part.
@@formuladrift hey man I've got a Reddit account and too much spare time, I am an expert!
Joking aside I think this sort of format is good, it's always been a blast virtually, gives an opportunity for style to come through and negates car advantage on a reasonable layout.
Let's go!@@Philovski
Whoever judged this competition doesn't have a fucking clue😮
Dai Yoshihara, 2011 Formula DRIFT Champion and 19 year pro was the lead judge. A loser obviously.
Let's Go FormulaDRIFT!!! BACKIES FOR THE WIN!
💯💪🏽💯
lol that’s what I was thinking- where the hell is Luke I’ve seen him do bigger backies with like 3 other cars on track
they should've started before the main straight as msc challenge and d1 street legal did in the past
was better backies on the last tighter corner than in the actual comp corner
Sugoi from Canada!!
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Orido back with the OG RSR Supra and cowboy hat and flame racing suit. It's like bringing back an old WWF guy into the ring. lmfao amazing ~ Disappointed in these "backies"
When are the backies supposed to start?
FD street legal is the answer
I feel chelsea denofa should of been a part of this
95 on the first run without going backwards, not even gonna watch this one lmao
I best backies need alot of speed on a straight into a really tight but wide corner.
Denofa would be great here
Haven’t seen a single backie lol
Why was the 2JZ BMW "rolling coal"? Is there a diesel version of the 2JZ I'm unaware of?
I was also confused by this
How can you host a backie competition and not invite @Luke Fink!?!
Because the event was constructed by RSR and they wanted old Japanese stars and modern FD guys who could transport together their cars from a singular location.
@@formuladrift please some how get Luke a seat in FD , no more Denofa gunna be little boring 👍🇦🇺
"RSR ICHIBAN!'
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Imagine a backie comp on ebisu north. And instead of pros, it's just an "anyone can enter" comp. That's when we'd see some crazy skids
I was about to watch, and then I heard Deanda’s voice
Think I’ll go do something productive instead
What a bodykit s15 Tetsuya hibino?
They should have just had people lapping the track with some judges sat on the corner watching. It doesn't have to be so serious. It sucks all the fun out of it.
Luke fink would have dominated this (best drifter on earth RTR please pick him up)
Hibino is really really such a dope drifter! I do wonder why Chelsea wasn't here - I know he stepped out for a bit but isn't he like the biggest backwards entry type bro? :D Either way cool vid!!! Thanks.
Sorry but any Suzuka Twin fan knows that placing the start box at the start of the straight is crap for backies. This course calls for a running start up the straight. Thats how yall will find the “impactful” entry youre looking for
Why didnt yous bring on Masato Kawabata an his blue 180?
I get it, formula drift judges think you can't follow a car doing backies in comp. I think some tracks have a first corner where the lead car should be able to throw a backie (for extra style points or whatever you guys score these days) and the rest of the track be drifted as "normal". Nothing gets the fans as hyped as backies and imagine if the chase car was able to mimic on that first corner. If you guys can find a way to incorporate them into your "rules", it would only gain FD's popularity (I might even subscribe and start watching again lol).
Flick does not equal backie. Asbo's first run had zero backie (if your car does not go over 90 degrees to the wall, not a backie). If you do not do a backie, you should not get a score over 50.
I appreciate the effort FD, despite other negative comments. Even my comment seems negative, I just was drifting to become bigger. Closer door to door runs (not setting up rules that discourage tapping the lead driver) and backies are definitely the move. And I realize I am talking to the void and probably looks cringe lol.
If a "backie" means that you enter the corner with the rear end of the car first then I never seen one during this whole comp smh.
You do realise they're not pulling backies? This is just shallow skids done by sick drivers, but no backies.
This is like Forza drift lobbies. The Americans wanna maximize the wide line and the Japanese wanna maximize speed
when was it ?
too bad we got the worst camera angles
the faked the crowd cheers haha
Naoki Nakamura would have bodied this comp
Wow is that imamura rx7 apexi
Where is Chelsea to show them what a backing is
Kind of a let down of a video. Idk if I’ve ever been so excited and so let down in the same 20 min span.
I watched this and still dont know what a backie is
A backie comp without naoki nakamura is just a comp for second place anyways .
Unfortunately nobody had much of a backie if at all. Maybe one day
What in the heck was the camera angles here ? Theres a drone and not one view of any overhead ?
There are two drones; one FPV and one OVERhead
where is kawabata???? he did a perfect backy drift long time ago...
Invited
Is this really serious?
Did the legendary IMAMURA completing the route score fewer points than those who rode it or didn't even complete it?
I hope it's just a joke