I was waiting for this one, I love Bellroy, but AER is better in almost every way. I would like to see the full length comparison of the two Aer's 24L packs
Thanks for the video, Danny! I think a comparison between the AER Pro Pack and the City Pack Pro would be awesome. Since you do have so much experience with bags, it would be really cool to hear which bag you prefer overall in the conclusion of these comparison videos. Great job with this video!
Amazing, can’t wait to watch this, I have the Bellroy but have been considering the new Aer pack due to some minor gripes… let’s see how they compare 😊
@@jolly207 I don’t find the harness system very comfortable, could be unique to my frame but I think it could benefit from a sternum strap. I think it could have done with an admin panel like on the Aer but that’s personal choice and not a deal breaker as the front pocket is great. Major gripe is that the shoulder strap webbing kept slipping through the adjustment hardware meaning I had to adjust every couple of minutes. I wrote to Bellroy who sent me some clips which has helped but a major design flaw in my book. Shouldn’t need additional parts to keep the shoulder straps in place. On a positive note I love the laptop compartment with the in-built tech pocket. I keep my Bellroy classic pouch in the pocket so when I get to my place of work I only need to open that one zip to access my laptop, notebook and tech accessories. I also love that the water bottle pocket is fully enclosed as it ensures the bottle is secure and remains clean throughout my commute. Hope that helps
Awesome comparison and review! I find it so ironic that it's the Bellroy that has the title of "transit" and yet it's the Aer Pro that has no particular claims on being travel friendly yet makes a much better travel backpack. A pass through strap, an AirTag holder, external water bottle pockets, better straps, a lack of visible front pockets - all of these features make it a much better travel backpack than the Bellroy.
If I had to choose all over again, I might well have purchased this new Aer bag. But, Bellroy has far better shipping rates here in Canada. Which puts the choice in their favour.
@@m_schneider I have the Bellroy Transit Workpack. Not the top of the line for quality…but definitely a good contender. I think my number 1 complaint would be the thinness of the back straps. One I have been impressed with recently is Able Carry…but again import duties can be pricy. Not sure what size you are looking at or when your needs are, but another I would have my eye on for EDC is when Pakt brings out their 25L (next month).
I too am from Canada. I've been looking for a day pack that I can pack away in my luggage but with a bit more space than a compressible one. Does the Bellroy pack down at all or fairly rigid? AER has a Go Pack that I'm been looking at also.
Pro Pack 20L vs City Pack Pro. Maybe throw in the 24L Pro Pack too. I think the first two would be a unique comparison as City Pack Pro is clear winner for 24oz (in my opinion) but those who think it’s a bit too big for their needs might consider getting the 20L Pro Pack.
I really like that belroy transit pouch in the laptop area, one zipper and access to your power supply and mouse etc. If you are in and out of the bag everyday with a laptop, that's the key feature for a daily commuter with laptop. Aer is nice if you'd don't use a laptop with accessories like that everyday, but in this size range for Aer, I like their lunar pack the most. Its their most affordable too and ministry of supply has more frequent discount codes. My only issue with the pro line is the straps are mounted narrower at the top than the city or lunar packs, and I have wide shoulders and a thicker neck.
AER all day for me. Until Bellroy makes their straps better I doubt I'll ever get another one. I've had Shift, Apex and Chimera - all were not great experiences regarding the straps.
@@Misterion25 I am also struggling with the same problem, I’m kinda regret for buying the bellroy transit work pack, I didn’t see any negative reviews about the straps before I bought it, the straps were super short and the strap Keeper was useless. The straps when pulled, usually just return to the original spot within an hour. The back panel only suitable for some people and only a few of them, the huge lumbar wasn’t suited for anyone’s back. I’m thinking to buy a new backpack, I’m figuring between Aer pro and city pack pro, and maybe the able carry daily plus. sadly I need to wait for the local store to get those products before I can try them
@@wilsonlamlyt7138 I had the same problem with the straps slipping through the hardware… a major design flaw. I wrote to Bellroy and they sent me some strap clips which have helped but disappointed that this is an issue for a bag with a premium price.
Late to the comment here but I have the same experience. I can’t believe how bellroy can make such a great backpack and add such a horrible straps to it. My 3 year old son has better straps on his Spiderman backpack 😂
great review!!! any issues with the straps loosening up? I am on the fence with this bag because ive been reading a lot of comments about this issue. not sure if this was the case with the older model but your input would be very helpful!
Bellroy really missed an opportunity by restricting the better harness system of their Transit packs to the two bigger sizes and not carrying it down to the workpack. Had they brought the 28L backpack's padding / straps / sternum strap and zippable tech caddy or valet tray in the laptop compartment, they would have easily sealed the deal for a lot of people that ultimately chose Aer for the harness system comfort. Worth noting also that despite similar size ratings, the Aer bag just doesn't stretch like the Bellroy bag does. With the Aer bag, what you see is basically what you get. With the Bellroy bag, it just kind of swallows the contents in similar fashion to Evergoods CHZ bags. Much of this is attributable to the structure of the bags, with the Aer bag having a lot more structure and material separating compartments and losing a lot of the ability to stretch as a result. As with everything there are tradeoffs: Aer bag will probably protect the contents better, Bellroy bag will probably fit a little bit more. I really wish Bellroy would just bring the transit backpack's harness system down to the workpack. Seems like such an obvious choice that I'm still bewildered by it not being there.
Thank you for watching and great point on the harness differences between the transit models, I agree it would have been nice to have the same design and the larger bag even includes a luggage passthrough which would have been perfect for a bag of this size and style
Branding is my guess. AER wanted this line to be their sustainability line so including non-recycled material (such as X-Pac) would have deviated from the sustainability angle.
Thank you for watching and good question! I imagine it might be a mixture of cost and function? The aqua guard offers great protection for the laptop area but it can be stuff / tricky to open sometimes so I can see the thought that it’s better to have the smoother reverse coil zipper on the main clamshell as it still provides some protection but is easier to open?
After having a brilliant experience with the Aer Go Pack 2, I need a bag that's a little more durable with similar features. My favorite feature for the Go Pack is the pair of water bottle holders that can hold my 32-oz. Nalgene or Hydroflask. Can the Aer CPP hold Nalgenes easily like the Pro Pack 24L?
Thank you for watching! The city pack pro has one water bottle pocket that is pretty spacious (not sure if it can hold 32l tho I think it would be a little too tight and make the bag feel un balanced as well)
Thanks for this comparison, I’ve been looking for a 20L bag and this is really helpful. I think it’ll also be interesting to compare this with the Evergoods PLC20 considering the similarities between the 3 bags.
Thank you for watching and I’m glad the video was helpful! The PLC20 was a pretty good bag as well, but I definitely prefer the layout and size of these bags, even tho it’s 20l it felt more compact And I didn’t like that the laptop compartment was in the main area vs a separate compartment like these
@@dannypacks thanks for your response! I definitely agree regarding the laptop compartment. Did you meant that the PLC is more compact compared against these packs? I’m actually using a CPL24 right now and I’m looking for a smaller pack for public transport. Hopefully one that can fit a 16” laptop, tech pouch and maybe jacket/headphones from time to time.
Hi, I didn't see it searching your channel but have you checked out the Bellroy 20L Tokyo Totepack? I know it's a completely different style than this transit pack but wondered what your thoughts are on it. Thanks!
Thank you for watching! For my preferences I would say yea, in general for me aer has some of the most comfortable harnesses and this one has been great so far (big Onewheel fan as well!)
I was waiting for this one, I love Bellroy, but AER is better in almost every way.
I would like to see the full length comparison of the two Aer's 24L packs
Thank you for watching and for the suggestion! Will have to revisit a full comparison between those bags!
Thanks for the video, Danny! I think a comparison between the AER Pro Pack and the City Pack Pro would be awesome. Since you do have so much experience with bags, it would be really cool to hear which bag you prefer overall in the conclusion of these comparison videos. Great job with this video!
Thank you for watching and for the suggestion! I appreciate the support and will have to work on a comparison of those bags!
Amazing, can’t wait to watch this, I have the Bellroy but have been considering the new Aer pack due to some minor gripes… let’s see how they compare 😊
Thank you for watching and I hope the video is helpful!:)
What gripes do you have with the Bellroy Transit Workpack?
@@jolly207 I don’t find the harness system very comfortable, could be unique to my frame but I think it could benefit from a sternum strap.
I think it could have done with an admin panel like on the Aer but that’s personal choice and not a deal breaker as the front pocket is great.
Major gripe is that the shoulder strap webbing kept slipping through the adjustment hardware meaning I had to adjust every couple of minutes.
I wrote to Bellroy who sent me some clips which has helped but a major design flaw in my book. Shouldn’t need additional parts to keep the shoulder straps in place.
On a positive note I love the laptop compartment with the in-built tech pocket. I keep my Bellroy classic pouch in the pocket so when I get to my place of work I only need to open that one zip to access my laptop, notebook and tech accessories.
I also love that the water bottle pocket is fully enclosed as it ensures the bottle is secure and remains clean throughout my commute.
Hope that helps
Awesome comparison and review! I find it so ironic that it's the Bellroy that has the title of "transit" and yet it's the Aer Pro that has no particular claims on being travel friendly yet makes a much better travel backpack. A pass through strap, an AirTag holder, external water bottle pockets, better straps, a lack of visible front pockets - all of these features make it a much better travel backpack than the Bellroy.
Thank you for watching and great points, for those additional features definitely make the pro pack great for travel!
If I had to choose all over again, I might well have purchased this new Aer bag. But, Bellroy has far better shipping rates here in Canada. Which puts the choice in their favour.
Thank you for watching and that’s definitely understandable!
How do you like the Bellroy? I'm also from Canada and think I'm gonna go with that.
@@m_schneider I have the Bellroy Transit Workpack. Not the top of the line for quality…but definitely a good contender. I think my number 1 complaint would be the thinness of the back straps. One I have been impressed with recently is Able Carry…but again import duties can be pricy. Not sure what size you are looking at or when your needs are, but another I would have my eye on for EDC is when Pakt brings out their 25L (next month).
I too am from Canada. I've been looking for a day pack that I can pack away in my luggage but with a bit more space than a compressible one. Does the Bellroy pack down at all or fairly rigid? AER has a Go Pack that I'm been looking at also.
Pro Pack 20L vs City Pack Pro. Maybe throw in the 24L Pro Pack too. I think the first two would be a unique comparison as City Pack Pro is clear winner for 24oz (in my opinion) but those who think it’s a bit too big for their needs might consider getting the 20L Pro Pack.
Thank you for watching and for the suggestion! :)
I really like that belroy transit pouch in the laptop area, one zipper and access to your power supply and mouse etc. If you are in and out of the bag everyday with a laptop, that's the key feature for a daily commuter with laptop. Aer is nice if you'd don't use a laptop with accessories like that everyday, but in this size range for Aer, I like their lunar pack the most. Its their most affordable too and ministry of supply has more frequent discount codes. My only issue with the pro line is the straps are mounted narrower at the top than the city or lunar packs, and I have wide shoulders and a thicker neck.
Thank you for watching and good call
Out on the bellroy setup! I agree the e lunar pack is still one of the best options from Aer!
AER all day for me. Until Bellroy makes their straps better I doubt I'll ever get another one. I've had Shift, Apex and Chimera - all were not great experiences regarding the straps.
Mind sharing what's wrong with their straps?
@@Mizi08 Too short of strap webbing. Not super comfortable. Webbing slips from clasp so bag loosens on its own. Bad sternum straps.
@@Misterion25 I am also struggling with the same problem, I’m kinda regret for buying the bellroy transit work pack, I didn’t see any negative reviews about the straps before I bought it, the straps were super short and the strap Keeper was useless. The straps when pulled, usually just return to the original spot within an hour. The back panel only suitable for some people and only a few of them, the huge lumbar wasn’t suited for anyone’s back. I’m thinking to buy a new backpack, I’m figuring between Aer pro and city pack pro, and maybe the able carry daily plus. sadly I need to wait for the local store to get those products before I can try them
@@wilsonlamlyt7138 I had the same problem with the straps slipping through the hardware… a major design flaw.
I wrote to Bellroy and they sent me some strap clips which have helped but disappointed that this is an issue for a bag with a premium price.
Late to the comment here but I have the same experience. I can’t believe how bellroy can make such a great backpack and add such a horrible straps to it. My 3 year old son has better straps on his Spiderman backpack 😂
Good review. I would like to see more topics about travel clothes (especially pants). Thanks.
Thank you for watching and for the suggestion on the future video!:)
Great comparison. Thanks so much!☮️
Thank you for watching and I’m glad the video was helpful!
great review!!! any issues with the straps loosening up? I am on the fence with this bag because ive been reading a lot of comments about this issue. not sure if this was the case with the older model but your input would be very helpful!
If only you could still get the bellroy in that black color still - I don't like the replacement midnight color at all.
I hope that you will try the atd1 supply, I want know how much stuff you can put inside and how it holds the weight ( confort)
Thank you for watching and for the suggestion! I’ve heard great things about that one and hope to have a chance to check it out in the future!
Aer is definitely higher quality feeling and with materials. but their bags are heavy.
Bellroy has got that lowkey and lightweight bags
Thank you for watching! Definitely some tradeoffs but both are really awesome!
Bellroy really missed an opportunity by restricting the better harness system of their Transit packs to the two bigger sizes and not carrying it down to the workpack. Had they brought the 28L backpack's padding / straps / sternum strap and zippable tech caddy or valet tray in the laptop compartment, they would have easily sealed the deal for a lot of people that ultimately chose Aer for the harness system comfort.
Worth noting also that despite similar size ratings, the Aer bag just doesn't stretch like the Bellroy bag does. With the Aer bag, what you see is basically what you get. With the Bellroy bag, it just kind of swallows the contents in similar fashion to Evergoods CHZ bags. Much of this is attributable to the structure of the bags, with the Aer bag having a lot more structure and material separating compartments and losing a lot of the ability to stretch as a result. As with everything there are tradeoffs: Aer bag will probably protect the contents better, Bellroy bag will probably fit a little bit more.
I really wish Bellroy would just bring the transit backpack's harness system down to the workpack. Seems like such an obvious choice that I'm still bewildered by it not being there.
Thank you for watching and great point on the harness differences between the transit models, I agree it would have been nice to have the same design and the larger bag even includes a luggage passthrough which would have been perfect for a bag of this size and style
Evergoods CTB 20L vs Aer Pro Pack 20L
Thank you for watching and definitely a great idea for a video!:)
Does anyone know why Aer doesn't have an All Aquaguard Zipper Option? They did it for Tech Pack 2 and their X-Pac
Branding is my guess. AER wanted this line to be their sustainability line so including non-recycled material (such as X-Pac) would have deviated from the sustainability angle.
Thank you for watching and good question! I imagine it might be a mixture of cost and function? The aqua guard offers great protection for the laptop area but it can be stuff / tricky to open sometimes so I can see the thought that it’s better to have the smoother reverse coil zipper on the main clamshell as it still provides some protection but is easier to open?
Hey Danny, great video. How about a comparison between GR2 vs. Evergoods CTB? (26L vs. 26L, 34L vs. 35L)
Thank you for watching and for the suggestion! Definitely a video I will add to the list!:)
After having a brilliant experience with the Aer Go Pack 2, I need a bag that's a little more durable with similar features. My favorite feature for the Go Pack is the pair of water bottle holders that can hold my 32-oz. Nalgene or Hydroflask. Can the Aer CPP hold Nalgenes easily like the Pro Pack 24L?
Thank you for watching! The city pack pro has one water bottle pocket that is pretty spacious (not sure if it can hold 32l tho I think it would be a little too tight and make the bag feel un balanced as well)
can the top valet compartment hold a mirrorless full frame camera? (e.g. nikon z6 kit)
Thanks for this comparison, I’ve been looking for a 20L bag and this is really helpful. I think it’ll also be interesting to compare this with the Evergoods PLC20 considering the similarities between the 3 bags.
Thank you for watching and I’m glad the video was helpful! The PLC20 was a pretty good bag as well, but I definitely prefer the layout and size of these bags, even tho it’s 20l it felt more compact And I didn’t like that the laptop compartment was in the main area vs a separate compartment like these
@@dannypacks thanks for your response! I definitely agree regarding the laptop compartment. Did you meant that the PLC is more compact compared against these packs? I’m actually using a CPL24 right now and I’m looking for a smaller pack for public transport. Hopefully one that can fit a 16” laptop, tech pouch and maybe jacket/headphones from time to time.
Hey Danny why don’t you review Ctactical ct21 v2.0 or ct15 will like to hear your opinions on those bags
Thank you for watching and for the suggestion! Definitely curious to learn more about those bags
Hi, I didn't see it searching your channel but have you checked out the Bellroy 20L Tokyo Totepack? I know it's a completely different style than this transit pack but wondered what your thoughts are on it. Thanks!
Thank you for watching and for the suggestion! I haven’t had a chance to test that one out but it looks like a pretty stylish alternative!
I ride a onewheel as my daily commuter, would you recommend the aer 20L as a comfortable bag to carry and distribute the weight on longer rides?
Thank you for watching! For my preferences I would say yea, in general for me aer has some of the most comfortable harnesses and this one has been great so far (big Onewheel fan as well!)
Will the Aer go under the seat as a personal item if its not overpacked?
Thank you for watching and yes it should be able to fit under the seat on most airlines