Stop Pushing Mammograms Now
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
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Hello and Welcome. I'm Dr. George Lundberg, and this is At Large at MedPage Today.
Stop pushing screening mammograms now.
One by one, the big-time screening tests for dread diseases, begun with good intentions, the best science known at the time, and a mass public health campaign, bite the dust.
Real science, that of statistically and clinically valid outcomes over time, obviously takes time to be realized. It also takes unbiased scientists and physicians with minimal conflicts of interest to study, deduce, report and then take the heat while putting change into practice.
Sometimes the most intuitive and seemingly logical observations and conclusions are simply wrong. But once an erroneous "fact" becomes established dogma in the mind and actions of the profession and the public, it is very hard to change that belief and those practices.
Of course, a change also interrupts many income streams.
The new large study out of Norway reported in the Sept. 22, 2010 issue of NEJM again documents that any benefits of mammography are so small. We already know that the harms and costs are not small.
Finding a breast cancer or a prostate cancer early so it can be treated when tiny seems so logical. However, such an approach has always meant also finding "cancers" that are not going to hurt the patient even if untreated.
A new large Swedish study published in Cancer just a few weeks ago proclaimed that even women between ages 40 and 50 years should have mammograms.
I'm Swedish, but this Norwegian study trumps the latest Swedish findings.
In another twist, in the 1960s, I worked for a while as a pathologist in west Texas. One hospital there was famous for its very high breast cancer cure rate. Then someone looked at some of those "cured breast cancers." Guess what; on pathologist second opinion, many were not cancers in the first place.
The strangely controversial 2009 recommendation of the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force, which downplayed the value of mammograms is looking better all the time.
It further said that the patient and the physician together should consider the data and share in deciding about mammography. I like that, especially if both the patient and physician are well informed.
Stop pushing screening mammograms now.
That's my opinion. I'm Dr. George Lundberg, At Large for MedPage Today.
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I never had it (63 yearold) trusting my intuition
Has your doctor refused you treatment?
I had a mammogram in my 20s (pushed in the UK at that time). I decided it wasn't good for me to have my breasts crushed and irradiated, and have never had one since. I am 69. Trust yourself to make the right decision for you, ladies.
I'm concerned about having 30 or more times having my breasts flattened and hit with radiation. How can this be healthy. 😢
I went once and realised that all that super squashing and radiation cant be good.ive never been back and dont intend to either
@@chrisjones3901They have to pay off those machines and the workers I guess.
Um……… don’t do it.
I am 42, and my gynecologist prescribed a mammogram when I got 40. I ripped the document. She told me a few months ago, during my check up, "I see you haven't done your mammogram yet...I am not insisting". I smiled and replied nothing. I am not planning on doing any tests as long as I don't have any symptoms! Same as for everything...when you have no symptoms, you don't visit your doctor. The idea of having my breasts crushed makes me sick. It is quite barbaric. No, thank you.
@@vanesagvl9095 I wouldn't even if I did have "symptoms". I've had them before and they went away on their own.
I had my first one at 45 years old (now 52). My doctor has been pushing it every year since then. This year she seemed extremely annoyed at me to the point where it's made me suspicious. Breast cancer doesn't run in my family going back 3 generations of women. What's your problem doc? I'm messing with her money.
It is very suspicious., and it seems to border on harassment.
That is exactly what you are doing. Big money there!
Breast cancer and everything associated with it is BIG Business. They aren't building these multi-million $$$ cancer centers everywhere you look because they want to see a cure for cancer.
I did get my first mammogram at 46 years old. You wouldn't believe how many people (friends, family, doctors) have basically shamed me for waiting to get my first mammogram at the "old" age of 46. It's unreal.
I pretty much never go to the doctor so they can’t tell me what to do. I’m 50 and just went in for tendinitis, and they told me I needed a mammogram. I politely declined. Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food. Eat healthy and stay fit and you won’t need their advice.
Well in Holland they start at 50!
@@eileenkenney I agree. Staying healthy with food and movement is the real deal. My mom is 71. Never had a mammogram in her life and she's in prime shape! Good on ya for doing what's best for you.
@@leslieparisi8925I would also add..keep a strong immune system with supplements especially vitamins C, D3 and zinc. It's crazy that cancer 'treatments' end up suppressing the immune system..the very thing your body uses to destroy cancer cells.
Thanks to the health shock the world has experienced in the last few years has made alot of folks question ANYTHING to do with so called health needs. Be selective and question your national health insurance contributions.
I'm forced to get them according to my husbands insurance and I don't want to. The one I had was painful and they made me think I had breast cancer so they made me go do another more powerful one along with ultrasound. I was in tears and scared. They found some white matter and then I had to wait for the results and then they said the doctor said it was OK 👍 I decided never to do a mamogram again it will affect my insurance but I won't risk myself anymore
Had one at 40, had to have follow up mammogram and ultrasound a month later for dense breasts. So much anxiety and stress. 48, will never have one. I asked my gynecologist about radiation and she dismissed the risks. I know many friends with same call backs...not all cancers are the same but they treat it all the same. Btw i have no family history and every year they recommend getting one. Europe doest even recommend until age 50....
Indeed here in Belgium recommended from age 50. Never in my whole life let I crush my body. Tell me: would ANY man crush his balls for the sake of health? So many medieval practices in so called modern times 😮 warm greetings to all of you 🥰💚
I've never had a mammogram and will not have one. I looked at the research and they don't save lives, and they cause tremendous harm to some women. My GP agrees with me. The womens doctors however, are far too afraid of deviating from the party line, it is actually appalling how many womens doctors are working off of outdated information.
How old are you, and do you go with getting ultrasounds instead? Thank you!
A mammogram saved my life I would be dead now!
@@caroledane1654 Happy for you, but what type and stage? Apparently many women diagnosed and treated aggressively had Ductal carcinoma in situ, a form which is unlikely to ever progress. Of course they think they were "cured" , and saved when in reality they were unwitting victims of a profit driven and highly questionable practice.
@@CharGC123exactly!
Same
He's right, if you want a mammogram get one. If you don't, you should not feel shamed or pressured into getting one. I personally have been harmed by one so I'll never get another. And the nurses are outwardly unhappy with me. Oh well, it's my body not theirs.
But WHY are they unhappy?
@@sl4983 They didn't find a mass or anything. But they always recommend a second to compare. I said no problem if I could have a non invasive procedure and they said no. I have good insurance so they're is no excuse for them not to do it.
Thank you, Dr. Lundberg. You are the voice of reason.
Dear Dr. Georg Lundberg, I like to thank you so much for your brave, truthful very helpful video.
I'm 71, had never a mammogram and doctors are getting very pushing, when I tell them that I just don't like to have that. With your advise I feel a lot of more confident on my decision. THANKS SO MUCH.
Blessings...Dr. Lundberg for the Great Information...!!! 😊👍💗
I totally agree, Thank You!
It's disgusting. Dr office is pushing it extremely hard, almost harassing.
Mine is, too.
I've had one twice and I am 63 and a nurse. I dealt with fibrocystic breast dis ease until I found out about iodine at the age of 50. I haven't had any cysts since or mammograms since!
Where do you buy it? How do you use it? Brands please
@@MoonBaby-qi9oo I buy seaweed from either vitamin sea seaweed company or hold fast seaweed company. I grind it and take a table spoon in water daily. I'm used to that but you can put it in soups or whatever I just know it loses some nutrients if cooked thats why I take it that way.
@@louisejones3478We all needs iodine, we have receptor sites on our thyroid, breasts and ovaries. Without enough of it disease starts. It helps rid the body of Florida, chloride and bromide and it's a potent anticancer nutrient !😊
@@sandiam7809include it in a smoothie or a wrap
I had an unnecessary biopsy n an operation !! My dr bullied me into it after my radiologist said it was not needed! Yes I had an aggressive 1 in my rt breast n I had a mastectomy bt my left 1 is perfect no cancer bt has been cut into for no reason I'm cancer free for 16 yrs now. Soo mke yur own decision with a Dr u trust completely. Gd luck to whoever is going thru this
Te apoyo Monica
I wish I knew this 15 years ago.
Me2! Only had books and Suzanne Somers book Knockout. They make you fearful to do nothing. Blame the patient is the game. Sad! They're in the game if pushing harmful radiation and pressing tissues in a vise to seek anamolies.
Ditto.
I wish I'd known it in Dec. 1996. I'm positive I wouldn't have developed a huge exterior breast tumor in 2017 IF I hadn't had mammograms .
@@patwagner9308whoah!
@@sl4983 In Jan 1997, prior to surgery on right breast, I had 2 to 3 dozen x-rays to that breast within an hour. That's a LOT of radiation.
As the saying goes the path to hell is always paved with good intentions
Indeed, however, "they" DON'T have good intentions.
Let me guess, the machines were designed by men. Probably ones who got their kicks from abuse to women. They should require these of men too.
I said this to women before 2014 and I'm not a doctor.
Thank you, Doctor.
I've had 2 or 3 mammograms, but am not having anymore after all I've read about them lately.
Me either
Nicely done
thank you
Having your breast crushed with radiation ☢️ is a big no no
I agree 100%😊
My sisters dr told her she has dence breasts and has to have a special mammogram that costs her 450.00 everytime and they want her to do them all the time but yet they come back negative but they want her to have more of them. She can't afford to keep paying for them.😮
I’m in the same boat. Using herself instead to pay less for an ultrasound
Try Herscan which is an ultra sound for breasts.
Agree!!!!!
If I didn't have a mannogram last year, i wouldn't have found out that I had zero stage breast cancer. Breast cancer runs in my family. I'm very thankful I caught it early.
Joyce...really? Zero stage? It was probably inductal only and you would have been best served to do watchful waiting. Sorry but mine was stage 1 and I'm convinced if I did nothing but changed my diet it would have stayed there. Mammograms kill!
What about thermography - could that have detected it or at least given an indication that further screening is needed?
I think the point here is that mammogram should not be used as a screening tool across-the-board for all women with any risk level. There are other ways, such as thermography, which causes no harm whatsoever.
I’m glad your cancer was caught and wish you good health
@Estiallina I just started thermography and I'll never go back. They can detect vascular and heag changes in breast tissue that would indicate a problem. Liquid biopsy would then detect cancer in the area. Watch A Breast expose. The Breast kept secret. A regular biopsy of a cancer in the breast causes the cancer to spread.
In your case since you have family history, then get ultrasound or MRI - NOT mammograms. Stage 0 - “in situ” is not cancer
@@KM-zn3lx I’m with you. They instilled fear in me since I was 25’sh since my sister had cancer in her twenties. Many mammograms and too many benign biopsies since then, but yet when I finally developed stage 1 cancer, the mammogram didn’t even show it. I caught it myself and was confirmed on a ultrasound. Given the aggressive treatment that followed, sometimes I wondered had I left it alone, would I have I a better situation. I am shocked of how very little advancement they have in breast cancer treatment.. after all theses years and money, it still cut, poison, burn and block hormone 🥲
Has anyone ever heard of a Koning Machine?
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100% facts
All the way from Republic of Ireland filipino
I have always had Mannogrames I'm now 75 my breasts are still firm I'm now booking my next one in January 😊
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Probably a DR posting under a fake name 🙄🙄
If you were aware, you would know even doctors do not advise them after the age of 74.
Very “sus” they don’t prescribe them after age 74. Why the hell not? Would probably cause people to croak
Mammograms saved my life......twice
Please have one every yeat😅
Nope, you do you.
Maybe the mammograms actually caused your breast cancer.
They "said" it saved your life.
I had a mammogram every year since I was 40. When I was 57 they detected breast cancer. I had minimal treatment and I am doing great. Don’t listen to this quack. Not all breath cancers are treated the same way there’s been a lot of research and investments in breast cancer. Is one of the more treatable cancers.
Okay but women shouldn't be coerced convinced cajoled or pushed into having one.
@@sl4983 I'd be wondering if yearly mammograms for 17 yrs is what caused the cancer.
It's because quite a number of the "cancers" they discover aren't really cancers, and those little masses or whatever would have resolved on their own. But they will say it was a cancer, and it was cured even if it would have been cured on its own. Good for the statistics.
So you do realize radiation causes cancer, correct?
You had better do more research.