Can an RTX 2080 BOTTLENECK a Pentium...!?
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The G4560 seems like it had a short life.... or did it? Today we test it out at similar settings to what I was looking at in my reviews of these cards, and that is 1440p ultrawide with high or ultra settings (depending on the game), and the pentium gets some.... interesting results!
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Read Pentium
Immediately thought of Pentium 4
This.
Yeah, I did too. Obviously the 2080 wasn't going to be running through AGP.
@Der Gönnjamin I remember going from the B version 2.53Ghz, to C 2.8Ghz, to 3.2Ghz. Overclocking all the way of course. Although the Athlon 64 was kicking their butts at the time, I really liked them. Single core, but it had hyperthreading, lol.
TheCgOrion There are some late gen 478 boards with a PCIe slot.
@Der Gönnjamin I still have the very top x1950 pro AGP sitting in my parts drawer. The only AGP better was the 3850, but the CPU already couldn't keep up.
That sweet Intel IPC still going strong :D A recent game I tested, Strange Brigade, on an AMD RX 570 with Vulcan API, it benchmarks the same on a Core 2 Quad vs Haswell i7, really impressive optimisation.
Shouldn’t the title be the other way around?
Everyone knows that the rtx 2080 is way to weak for the pentium, so no.
@@Kafi69 exactly every cpu fears good ol pentium
I waa expecting 8k gaming so he could be like "See? The Pentium is being bottlenecked so hard".
Naizuri , yep, either 8K or just completely maxing out everything possible in every single game, 8X MSAA and everything else, be it 1080p or 2160p doesn't really matter for rtx 2080 if game is gpu heavy enough
I'm running this chip and it's working really well. I run my G4560 with 8GB RAM and a 1050 Ti and it runs any game I throw at it at medium-high with variable framerates (though I usually just cap it to 30 for consistency, if it can't reach 60 at all).
The real question is .......... Can Nvidia BOTTLENECK RTX ...!?
( YES .... they can ! They just ask 1300 bucks for it )
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Are you sure because i heard somewhere that......... *It just works*
JUST BUY IT
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Don't buy it then.
Thank you for this video. I guess I'm fine with i5 4690k @4.3 Ghz and my next purchase RTX 2070. Was about to upgrade the CPU but I guess its still fine 1 more year. Cheers.
A very interesting experiment B! I'm personally amazed the cpu held up I was so expecting major lag and frame rate drops but I suspect if the settings were set to medium and not ultra high these lags would dissapear. As always excellent content!
Wallace Dewindows just like what Bryan said "Makin 7th gen i3s, i5s obsolete"
Careful, if you keep using WoW as a benchmark you will wake up 14 years later and wonder what happened with your life :p
I just like how he said the 7700k is 'best in slot'. He's using the lingo!
Ewwww wow
personally i played wow with a friend of mine, we both reached max level at the same day which was nice considering the fact that we not always played together even when started together, however just around 2 weeks after that both of us stopped playing it as there was nothing really to do, just as any other mmorpg, yep we did had professions however they was not enough to keep us in game, as well as max level in X1 server took 2-3 weeks or around that without massive farming or anything like that, so eh
lets see some RTX 2080 action paired with some x58 and x79 goodness!
Well i can tell u that x58 w3680 at 4.5ghz is a bottleneck. Most games don't see to much performance loss but there are some like csgo, destiny 2 , ac origins that are heavily bottleneck by the cpu.
Just got my 2080ti and waiting on the mb cpu to upgrade and csgo its not even passing 20% utilization on the gpu were the most other games are around 70-90% still give less fps even if they are at 98-99% .
@Panagiotis Papanastasiou well u can upgrade the GPU now and the rest later but tbh if u don't plan a cpu mb ram upgrade its best to just get a a rx 580 or 1660/ti and call it a day.
Most likely the next gen u can upgrade the cpu mb ram for cheaper whit a ryzen zen2 and the a better gpu down the line since that combo will last u a good few years. Just my 2 cents.
Thank you so much for this video. I do have the Pentium G4560 as it is my first build since March 2018 and not too shabby for a grinder CPU. started my first build paired up with a GT 1030 for the low budget build that i was able to do. loving it and (planning to upgrade my hole system in the future) but for now, keeping my Pentium G4560 and add in a GTX 1060 6GB. This will rock......
It will rock!!just dropped in a 1060 6gb msi armor last night and wow!!i just picked out what i thought would max out tbe litte 4560 when i built it almost 2years ago and that was a gtx1050,WRONG!!! 1060 6gb makes it "buttery",enjoy!!!
Yes don't worry about the pentium! It's definitely fast enough to keep up with a 1060
My last dual core was the wonderful E8600 which served me very well indeed.
I went from that all the way to a crazy i7-980X system. That was quite a leap! :)
As for WoW: yeah that's always been 2 cores only. Any additional cores aren't used. Just get the fastest 2 Intel cores you can and overclock them to the roof, with high-speed memory, SSD and the best GPU you can afford.
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I had the Pentium G4560 with a GTX 1060 when I built my first PC back in Dec to Jan. In Aug I upgraded to a Ryzen 5 2600, hopefully my GPU too soon to maybe a 1070ti or 1080. Cheers, love the vibes of your channel
Flashteenz good thing you choose Ryzen path coz intel's upgrade path costs hell of a lot of money compared to AMD's lineup
This is what I love to see a mixed of crazy parts love it! great review hope you do more combos like this sometimes were forced due to budget reasons to mix unlikely parts.
Nice vid Bryan, always been curious to see how low of a CPU one can pair a high-end GPU with (especially for those who go on the computer building part of, having a CPU first, then save for a good GPU, then come back and upgrade the CPU). Are you planning to test the Athlon 200GE as well?
(Also SCA had a 20% off sale last week, hope you stocked up on your cleaners).
I switched from an i7-950, to a ryzen 7 2700x this year;
mainly just for streaming in x.264, future proofing for games that will use more than 2-4 cores, and the upgrade to ddr4, usb-c / 2020 mobo compatibility on x470.
Must have been a solid upgrade, i've evolved from i7 950 to i7 4790k and finally an i7 8700 ( since I never overclock anyway )
@Dex4Sure the 8700 has a lower TDP tho, which was also attractive to me but those are fair points.
Wow, I would have thought that average for would have suffered a lot more. I would call it a playable system. Not ideal but really useable if you shoved a cheap processor in with an upgrade planned in the future. Great video!
Also I would like to see the 2080 tested with an x3440 or similar cheap xeon if the Pentium performed so well.
Yeah as a stop gap it wouldn't be too bad!
Elder Paa Ok Paa I will try maybe the 2080 ti with the earlier xeons, overclocked of course :p
@@techyescity yeah man I can't wait to see that.
I've got a 4560 in my portable ITX rig with a GTX960, soon to be GTX970 as I upgraded my main rig. Great combo and very budget friendly. I have a few mates looking at getting into PC gaming and this is pretty much what I'm suggesting - a G4560 and 960/970 depending on budget. Great platform for future upgrades but still more than usable!
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Hey TechYes. I was at movie world today so it reminded me of you in the Gold Coast. I just picked up my first pc on a verge, but it’s so old it has socket type 939. Love your videos
I had a dual core (i3 Sandy Bridge) up until October 2017, now I'm using an R3 1200 @ 4 GHz
I actually get a lot of choking in games because I only have 8GB of DDR3 ram, glad i finally know whats the problem with my computer. Thanks Bryan!
I only have three dual core processors in use(in desktops) a g4560 paired with a gtx 770, a core 2 duo e6750 paired with a gt 1030, and an Athlon 64 x2 5000+ paired with an r7 350(2gb overclocked has 7750) I also have an Athlon x2 7550 in storage. Most of my systems are quad cores or single cores. I have an i5-2500k in my main pc, core 2 quad q6700 and q9550, and Phenom II x4 945 for the quads. A Sempron 140(soon to be replaced by an FX 8350), Athlon XP 2200+, 2600+, and 2800+, and an AMD k6-2/500 for the singles.
Great video!! That poor pentium haha!! I wish I had a nice or somewhat nice gaming pc because I play on a mac unfortunately. I am trying to get something soon. Probably Christmas if lucky.
Why dual channel isn't active with different modul ram? is that DDR4 issues or just mobo? I build many DDR3/2 system and dual channel is always activated even with different size/speed as long there's 2 ram connected (or sometimes all 4 slots)
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I have a g4560. Bought it at msy 2 yrs ago for 60 bucks. Been a great chip doesn't miss a beat.
I really enjoy these types of tests. You should have tried to run in 720p and see how that performed.
Oh I love those Aliexpress "RGB" quad-led fans!
Nice one!
Thank you for including WoW! I would love to see the performance of that game on your x58+xeon setups though! :)
My brother has a G3258 at 4.2 GHz with a R9 270X. Runs most games at high or ultra settings and 1080p. It's a pretty good CPU and was a bargain compared to an i5 that was $150 more.
Great Video Mr Tech Yes City Thanks
I was a bit surprised that the Pentium was able to feed that video card as good as it did surprised indeed.
Because of you testing that lower end CPU and it only being a dual core it basically answered my own question with my system. I have a i7 2600K@5.1GHz and was pondering the idea of getting a 1080Ti or 2080 but was worried that the older Sandy Bridge might be a bottle neck for either of those cards. Extracting your performance numbers I can conclude my much faster Sandy Bridge than this Pentium would be more than able to feed this 2080 GPU and then some. Thank you again you answered my question without me even asking it...:)
I can confirm this as well. I have a 2600k at 4.7ghz with a 1080ti and it rocks bro - no bottlenecks. I play games at 3440x1440 res.
I love my wee G4560 system, granted I'm not much of a gamer and mainly run retro emulators when I do. It runs DAW software like Reaper and Presonus S1 very well when monitoring and tracking with low latency buffer settings. Great little chip for the money I paid.
I figured it would perform pretty well. Great video Bryan.
WoW is cpu bound to no end,but if you want better fps you keep Environment detail around 6-7,also View distance can be around the same that will give you an nice fps boost. I have an 6700k @4.8ghz and an 1080ti,those two settings can crush my rig.
Thx for including WoW! :)
I built a system a year or so ago for a friend with a g4560 and a gtx 1060 3gb. That system was finominal for the price. It played 1080p exceptionally well and definitely gave consoles a run for their money.
I believe hardware unboxed did a review that showed the g4560 bottlenecks on average after gtx 1060 6gb and in some rare cases it didnt bottleneck a 1070.
I suspect it's best suited for a used gtx1060 or rx480/580 under $200 or a 1050ti at or under $100
Hey @Bryan. I always thought that on intel mobos mismatched RAM ran in ‘flex’ mode? As in 4GB on each stick runs in dual and the extra 4 on the other stick runs single? Or did they stop doing that? My mate had a H97 that used to do this (it ran in ‘flex’. CPU-Z used to always say it was running in dual).
These games are actually mostly GPU-bound. Games like Assassin's Creed Origins, GTA5 and the Battlefield series will be wholly different.
amazing vid bruv.Keep Rocking
i don't think mine is that different, just got an RTX 3050, and I'm trying to pair it with a Pentium G630 (Sandy bridge) but my dev manager does not detect it, even choosing hidden devices. Any advice?
You need to compare those cpus in more detail. Like single core score, ipc, ghz and so on. These days cpus differ more in core count and less in single core performance.
Built a PC 2 months ago for the excuse of a brother I have. Used a core i3 4130 (got it for 80€ along with a 500 GB drive and 4 GB of ram). Coupled it with a gtx 670. It's not great, but not bad either. It can still play many games well, though I'd recommend quad-cores.
It really is astonishing that after 14 years, only now (upcoming patch) is Blizzard optimising the game for modern CPUs and utilising more than one core....
So an i5 4690k will do just fine with a RTX 2080TI?
Good question, seems so
Same question. Have same CPU there and with my 980 anything runs great in 1080p, but now it starts to suffer some game effects about constant 60fps stability in some games.
The question is the same: will our 4690k bottleneck a 2080/2080ti ? And if yes, how much we will lose in performances ?
Changing the CPU nowaday is pretty 'hard' in terms of costs, cuz i will need to replace also the mainboard and ram. Dont really wanna do those steps right now with those GPU prices also.....
Thats my question too! 4690 bottleneck a 2070 (in my case)
i tested a 4690k @ 4.5ghz with a 1080ti. it did bottleneck, unfortunately.
gave me around:
100fps avg in fortnite, highest settings, 1080p.
100fps avg in witcher 3, highest settings, 1080p, no nvidia settings.
only 50fps avg in ffxv, highest settings, 1080p, no nvidia settings.
might not bottleneck in higher res.
Well my g4560 will test it in the next 10 days with rtx2060...
I love your videos man! Greetings from Austria :)
At the start i was expecting you to say ladys and gentleman we got em
I have a great gaming PC with SCUM on a SSD and the loading when going places causes hitching on my PC. The problem is not that build but a game that is still in alpha that needs more work.
sounds like the only problems you had was with the oddball 12GB of RAM in single channel. Replace the 4GB stick and a matching 8GB stick for 16GB in dual channel should clear up the majority of those "chokes"
Tech City YES were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
The mismatched memory sticks do not matter, it will run in dual channel mode anyway. This has been true for a very long time. Look up Intel Flex Memory.
Bryan you maniac lol ;)
i need help i have a xeon w3550 and don't now which gpu i should buy
You need faster CPU for higher frame rates and faster GPU for playing at higher resolution.
If your monitor is 1440p which for me is the sweet spot value and you have GTX1060Ti or RX580 and just want to game at 60+ fps you can get away with i3-6100 just fine.
Computer stores sell i7 with GTX1050Ti so that they can take your money twice when you "decide to upgrade" one day which never happens.
Check out all the PCs for sale on the used market with i7-4790 (non K) and Z97 motherboard, because it costs more and customers are dumb and GTX950 or 960 at best.
Then I can use RTX 2060 with my i5 6500, right?
Definitely you'd be fine
There isn't any game which can truly use GTX 2xxx series cards because of those RTX stuff.
It would be great if you can grab a render scene for example a scene of 3DS MAX using VRAY RT and do a RT Render comparison test with GTX 9, 10, 20 series cards.
Got off the dual-core system (Intel Core 2 Duo 2007 I think) last year, when I built a cheap FX system. Still run modern titles with a 1060.
I m using Core Duo E7500(2c 2t 2.93ghz)oc to 3.40ghz ... and 78C at full load is that safe?
My laptop has I5-4300U (2c4t low power) paired with HD8750m 1GB and 8GB RAM, It sure can play some older titles cuz of that sweet WXGA(1366x768) resolution :D Even tried BF3 and it ran pretty much 60fps but had some bad hiccups every now and then. Guess it was cpu hitting power limit :/
I have i5 7400, H110m-S2 mother board and thinking of getting RTX2070 will it bottleneck and if it will what can I do for that ??
Nah it won't bottleneck that much it's 4c/4t ryt
I saw that VS 350 and I was like what the heck YES , you good bro.
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What do you guys think of i3 6100 and gtx 1080 for 1440p 100hz med high settings
Still with an i3 6100 here and a GTX1050ti. I'm not into multiplayer/competetive gaming, but I'm a Fallout fan and the upcoming title is stricktly online so I'm considering upgrading with a second hand Ryzen 5 1400 or 1600 and an RX480 if I manage to sell at a nice price my current gpu-cpu-mobo.
I went from i3 6100/1050 ti to a 1500x/rx 580 8gb... It was an awesome upgrade, I almost doubled my framerates in some games.
I was given a g5600 for free from a friend. I plan on building a cheap itx rig with it and putting linux on it to save money and to dabble in linux. And to start showing people gaming on linux has become more viable. I can't wait to get off of windows
I'd love it if you did an X58 with a 3080 video!
Should've tried to PlanetSide 2 with that CPU, that would've been quite interesting.
i have g4600 and already bought gtx 1080ti aorus extreme, works perfect with 2400mhz 16gb, but use of gpu is up to 85% so we have little bottleneck.
You think an i5 7600 mounted on an asus h110m-r Will work with a rtx 2060?
I cant remember, but there is another game that runs great on a dual core cpu, but is really bad on a quadcore.. not sure if it was some older Need for speed-game, or something. Or if it was that the performance was less because of hyperthreading.. so maybe something like that in WoW
2200g and rtx 2070, will it bottleneck
Was planning to upgrade to the Intel i7-8700K but I will just buy that RTC 2080
So out of curiosity if the 2080 is too much for the G4560 then how high of a gpu would be the limit? 1080?
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1060 is as high as you should go. Even then it will bottleneck at 1080p. The bottleneck is of course reduced as you increase the resolution.
Got off the dual core when the Q6600 came out.
I think i in this competition hands down. I'm using PC for work (Word, Excel and e-mail) with AMD Sempron LE-1250 in it.Yes, it has 1 core.. I'm on the #struglebus. I do have one more "gaming" PC with Q8300 and nVidia GTS 250.
What's up with your mouse at 2:35 a HP standard mouse...
Im sorry but what was the non bottleneck cpu, since the only cpu who doesnt bottleneck rtx2080s is 8600 and above.
would you be willing to test this setup with a G5600 and an Intel Core I5?
Frametime Performance in WoW with DX12 is actually worse than with DX11
I3 4170 here. Great so far paired with a r9 380.
If someone can afford an RTX 2080, or any ray-tracing card for that matter, they can most definitely afford a CPU that's a hell of a lot better than a Pentium Gold. If they can afford such a highly-priced GPU, why settle for the cheapest of the cheap lowest of the low CPU?
I'm all for saving money on a CPU when you've already got a GPU that kicks ass, but if you can spend $700 on a graphics card, you can definitely spend $120-$350 on a quad-core or hexa-core that's that's actually meant for these top-of-the-line GPU's, unlike with the Pentium Gold which is going to be almost 100% bottleneck on any GPU that isn't a budget GPU.
Wow! I didn't though that WoW would run at 40-something, i play WotLK (on a private server) at max. settings with a HD6970 and i manage to get 150+fps (the HD6970 is just 2 years younger than that expansion) and now that gpu is not even in the "supported gpu list" on BfA lmao
The title just keeps me wondering... Wouldn't it be the other way around..?
omfg I saw the title and I was drinking water
I have to find something to wipe my floor now
What do you think about an I5 6500 and an RTX 2080 ?
Fx-8350+gtx 1080 at 1080p here...feels good man!
Fx-6300 + gtx 1060 3g works fine ass for me at 1080p
You should see what the lowest end CPU is that won't bottleneck this card in the majority of games. Example would be to test the 7100, 8100, 1200, 1200x etc until you find the one which won't bottleneck.
I have a 4620 paired with a 1660 and my games room silky smooth..But i am upgrading to the i5 or i7 soon.
I need the opposite of this. Since my main game is warframe, my gpu (rx 470) just coasts while my cpu is always holding it back. This game is actually the reason why I even decided to upgrade to ryzen from my i7 2600 in the first place. Not only that, but in most of the games I play i tend to drop settings to get those higher frames and my gpu is never fully used. I'm pretty sure that even if I was running a gtx 1050, my cpu would still bottleneck.
WoW is constantly being updated, including optimization, which could explain the FPS bump
I live for stuff like this!!!
I have an i3-6100 (coupled with a more sensible GTX 1060 tho lol) and it runs just fine for newer titles.
the last dualcore I had was a intel core two duo(when it was current). after this I started buying quadcore amd processors and then amd higher cores processors through to today(8 core ryzen).
Hi there, i have an g4560 paired with a 1050ti. I'm fine with it cauz most of use is casual gaming and emulators. But your vidéo make me feel that this cpu can do more surprisingly. Can you made the same with an rtx 2060 and compare the results with rtx 2080 (and even the oc one). It should be interesting to point the bottleneck thing for this cpu. And then i surely subscribe to your channel. Thanks by the way for this interesting test vidéo.
I was very worried about that PSU
cpus being bottlenecks in current gen games is usually a myth. or at least not as significant of a deal.
thats still dual channel memory even if they are not the same size sticks. the first 8 gigs will be dual while the last 4 will be single. if a board has only 2 ram slots and both are filled then the capacity of the smaller stick times 2 will be in dual channel mode.
these lower end cpus look alright going by the averages but the stutter and microstutter is awful. the frametime graphs in afterburner show it well. competitive multiplayer games (besides dota or wow) are really hard hit. story based games arent that bad though especially if you are just going for aroun 60fps with high res
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LOL, you even put a question mark after that sentence... Yeah of course it will bottleneck, severely
At 60 fps high resolutions there is no reason why it wouldn't be usable. Most games don't really take much CPU anymore...
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