Miami Heat Got a Look Into the Future in Loss to Cavaliers | Locked On Heat Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- In their blowout loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers, the Miami Heat got an up-close look at what a fully developed, two-big lineup can do. Jarrett Allen and Evan Mobley outplayed Bam Adebayo and Kel'el Ware -- and that's OK! There's plenty to take away from this one. Plus, Wes Goldberg and David Ramil discuss the Golden State Warriors' potential interest in Jimmy Butler and what a trade package could look like.
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Cavs fan here; yes it did take some years for Mobley and Allen to develop and play off each other. I would say that Bam is a much better shooter than Mobley . The key that unlocked both of them to play together was Mobley developing a decent jump shot. Which Bam already has. So I believe that your big combo will work.
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Only problem is bam been in the league I love bam tho came up from the Y
Huh? @@djwilkinson4672
@@djwilkinson4672bam is still super young tho
@@FlawlessxDariwe drafted bam in 2017 he is not “super young” anymore. Old, nah, but super young not it either
Yes, it's fair to Judge them without Jimmy, because they went to the Finals and Conference Finals Gm7 with Jimmy, without Tyler.... Yes ‼️
Good job Guys, I enjoy the perspective.
We need to get Keshad ready so that we can just start the Bam Ware Jovic trio. Spo is scared to start them, rightly, because we don’t have any front court depth besides like 5 minutes of Kevin Love to sub them out.
Glad I kept this game on mute in the background and chose to watch the final 2 episodes of The Queens Gambit instead.
good stuff as always!
Bam might be finding his groove again. Need to get an actual point guard to free things up for bam, tyler and ware
Jason Williams was the last TRUE point guard Miami had...Riley is getting like SLEEPY JOE LOL
Think y'all forgetting that 2020 Lakers team and their big lineup
Not just a rookie, the first 3rd of season Ware rode the pine. Coach Spo will never admit, Ware should have played 18 to 20 minutes from the get-go. I hope the tall thin guy doesn't get discouraged. Believe it, Ware is pissed he was left off the freshman team after he kicked Wemby just a week and a half ago.
Tyler is the best player on this team, he’s a 3rd option. Him and Duncan can’t defend and that makes Bam and Ware extend to the perimeter.
Nailed it your 3rd option is now your first option the offense gonna come and go
Tyler is a certified 2nd option. Idk wat 3rd option puts up the numbers he has. But if you have Tyler as your 2nd option u got to have a do it all PG next to him. Someone with size that can score and play defense or a decent 2 way guard and a point forward like Luka, or Jimmy in his prime. Both are hard to come by which is why I wish the heat would have traded Jimmy in the offseason they would have got a good return. Then trade Tyler and assets to Sacramento for Fox. Jimmy in his prime and this current Tyler works.
I like Miami.. But I am telling you.. they are conservative and cheap. Dame is killing it in Milwaukee. I am excited to see what they can bring in. Jimmy should’ve been gone in the summer, to still get his jersey raised in Miami. Now, no way in Hell!
Y'all need to pick one argument and go with it, one minute they're overpaying players, next they're cheap, it can't be both.
Can we get Ware involved in the offense ?
Totally fair to judge the team while management keeps suspending Jimmy. I agree you have to put him in check but now it almost seems like they are doing it to duck 🦆 salary.. Makes the Heat look petty and cheap.
@@eraypetro he kept the team waiting on the tarmac for hours just to be like I’ll be there later suspension was justified that’s why PLAYERS ASSOCIATION isn’t arguing it
Jimmy playing mediocre, does not deserve to be paid his max contract.
What are Jimmy’s stats? How much is he paid per game? You think he deserves that?
Plus lack of motor or drive to win?
@@FlawlessxDari Good chance he gets a lot of it back after arbitration.
@@eraypetro that’s good for him, but just like Pat Riley‘s probably thinking if you wanna make my life hell I’m making yours hell
@@FlawlessxDari I agree with you for the most part. The team felt this last summer. When Riley decided he didn’t want to extend Jimmy, it was time to trade him before it got to this point. They are both at fault. Jimmy should’ve been more professional, but this is his History and Miami knew this.
Why would we take back players when we are already stacked at those positions. What we need is simple, back up centre that is capable of starting. True pg and.maybe even a back up pg. Here's some deals that make sense for Miami. Jimmy to Bulls for Lonzo and Vucevic. Jimmy to Grizzlies for Smart, Pippen Jr, Clarke and Kennard. Jimmy to Wizards for Brogdan and Valancunis. If your going to trade Jimmy, do it for what's needed. If we can't get what we want just play the year out with him.
If we were going to flip Wiggins for an expiring, I would much prefer to flip him for Lonzo than Bruce Brown. I could see the Bulls being into the Wiggins contract.
Mid Players aren't Untouchable Wes😂 Tyler, Ware Untouchable is Laughable 😂 Empty Calorie Stats=Tyler
Go ahead and try to replace a 7 footer that can play next to bam, that’s the reason ware is untouchable right now
@@chino19963exactly trading core pieces defeats the purpose. What’s the point of bringing something new in if we’re given something very valuable away . Defeats the purpose. The Heat have been looking for a center for the last 5 plus years . Giving away one of the most promising prospects is not smart at all
I’m pro fox for Tyler
@@mrjdot954 that’s not gonna get you no where its exactly another Jimmy butler situation. It’ll only work if Fox and herro are here . If jimmy want able to win with this core what makes you think fox would
You make that trade you’ll only have 1 player on the heat that can create his own shot . That’s the same situation we’re in right now
@@giftedmusic1577 that’s what I’m saying dude
The Heat got good momentum in the third quarter with Herro catching fire, but the Best coach in the league didn’t think to get that lineup together quickly to have some form of continuity in the fourth quarter. Instead Herro never came back into the game until about little over five minutes remaining. While Cleveland’s coach had Donovan Mitchell starting the fourth period and got a rest and was still able to enter the game with Herro. Make it make sense. This Coach should be happy for the Big 3 or else he wouldn’t have a job. # Lockon Spo apologizes 😂😂😂😂
Bro Tyler has to stop acting like he still the 6th man we need him to carry this offense and my god stop with the turnovers
@ That’s exactly what he’s been doing, carrying the team. How about your coach run some plays to get him easier looks….
@@brianwalker88he's been carrying the offense. He has 2 turnovers total while playing pg most of the game. Re watch the game
@jasonkart1651 we need a playmaker bad rozier and Tyler first instinct is to shoot no matter how many people guarding them
Hell no to Wiggins. Wes says 30 mil for Wiggins is a team friendly deal. NO NO NO. How does Wiggins make the Heat better. He doesn't.
The JAW’s lineup
Jovic
Adebayo
Ware
@lockedonheat whats your guys opinion on miami trying to acquire brandon ingram? Ive always hated the notion of creating cap space to sign players when it seems we never can. Why not trade for one whos available like him?
So trade Jovic, Larsson, Jaquez then because that's where it will start.
The coaching staff could be a problem also…however Heat really needs a good point guard…sometimes Miami play like a bunch of goats!!!
Donovan in Miami woulve had a chip 1st year . Probably 2 with Jimmy.
I like Miami.. But I am telling you.. they are conservative and cheap. Dame is killing it in Milwaukee.
Against the Cavs -
Points in Paint 68 Clev 38 Mia
Keep Jimmy, Fire Spo
Hell the fuck no shit up bro your not a fan
Patience
Bam played too far outside last night...he was rarely in the paint where we were getting killed
This game was lost on the boards not 3s. Also we have a weak defense, only 7 turnovers for Cavs
If all the heat do is get Wiggins or Bruce brown im done being a heat fan
On god bro lmao that’s a terrible trade and also I feel like if that was all we were getting for Jimmy that trade would’ve happened already
I’d rather wiggins over brown
I would take Bruce or Wiggins, Looney, and Moses Moody or Gary Payton, and a 1st, try to get Brown in FA market. or Khris Middleton and Bobby Portis, and a 1st
If they get a 2027 pick back for Jimmy, Heat need to tank fuck making the playoffs. There’s some good prospects in 2025.
I think were seeing the beginning of the end of Jaquez
Agreed, I think he peak. But, will be a good spot wing role player .
I would do my best to wrangle Kuminga. I value him over picks, and I don’t see how Golden State can keep him anyway if they trade for Jimmy and Jimmy opts in. They already don’t wanna pay the guy, and now they’re going to pay him and most likely go over the 2nd apron? Jimmy + Curry + Draymond + Kuminga is like 160 million, and then i think Moody was extended already so he gets a bump in salary.
This just tells me that you guys don’t know anything about basketball! Wiggins has seen more defense coverage on him during his career than Brown. Besides, Brown only looked good because he was playing with Jokic. Anybody would look good playing with Jokic. You guys need to go and study the game 😂😂😂
Exactly! Also this notion of Bruce being "more of a Miami heat guy" is why this team is always stuck in purgatory. You NEED something fresh that doesn't fit your purgatory mold
@ just like how jimmy was a Miami Heat guy😂😂😂. It’s about time fans like you and others who knows a thing or two about basketball, speak up and not let some of these so called media pundits that wants to be friends with these coaches so that they can get interviews and so forth, stop with this nonsense!
Stop saying what could have been. We tried to get him and got outbid. Until we get more picks we will always get outbid. Also, herro scores 8 points in 40 seconds at the end of the 3rd to cut it to 10 so spo starts the 4th with him on the bench and let the lead immediately go back to 16 in less than a minute. Waited till 5 minutes left to bring him back in. Terrible sub decisions again by spo
Ware, Bam , hero is future we will be ok dunkin and rozier not good defensively
And Jovic
Thats debatable @eraypetro
We are mediocre Tyler and Bam are building blocks. I love Ware but everyone else is on the table for Fox we need a Star player on this team Tyler and Bam are fine players but not 1A guys
Same idea Phoenix and the Clippers had, how did that work out?
@Wilcoranking Yea but Fox is different than Harden and PG there drama queens
Jimmy to the wolves for jaden
Miami's problem is manager Erick Spoerltra who is too stubborn, how can it be that you played against Orlando 3rd quarter Orlando dominated Miami and as a hope you placed Adebayo, Ware and you placed Jovic together that fell like a drop of water along with Dunca and Herro and Orlando could not do anything against that defense and offense then if that worked for you why Diablo against Cleveland did not you bring the same lineup Ware Adebayo, Jovic, Dunca and Herro someone tell me why did not bring that lineup that was the one that finished with Orlando and whoever does not believe me just go and review that game Orlando vs Miami
Spo couldn't help himself. He finally got to see Bam, Ware and Jovic play together and then he doesn't play them together against the Cavs. Spo is regarded as such a good coach. Why. He's never won without Lebron. Enough smallball. Spo is too hard headed and yet loves soft bigs.
I keep telling you all Spoelstra can't Coach period he ROTATE TO MUCH that not how you play AMERICAN BASKETBALL 🏀 OKAY SPO GOT TO GO
I agree that Spo is the most overrated coach in the league. Yes, he did get to two Finals with Butler but what has he won since the Big 3? He needed HOF players to win titles. Since LeBron left he hasn't won anything.
@@PweeBurntPizzawhat has Pop won without HOF players? What did Phil Jackson win without HOF players? What did Pat Riley win without HOF players? That argument is so washed
@@PweeBurntPizzatry saying something that makes sense
I would rather have wiggins than brown.
David grow some spine bro!...You have little man agreeing with a lot of his nonsense!!...wow...
Heat are mediocre....! Play-in bound because alot of other teams are TANKING!
David, that is one ugly shirt 😅
Yep, the future.....Miami Sucks
Looking real sad lmaoo