Moa - New Zealand Bird of the Week

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • Moa were a fascinating and diverse group of birds that possess numerous anatomical and biological characteristics that are not found in any other bird species. Coming in many different shapes and sizes, from the agile Upland moa to the hulking Heavy-footed moa, with this video, I hope you learn something new about this remarkable group and gain a greater appreciation for New Zealand's endemic fauna.
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  • @brq267
    @brq267 2 года назад +30

    (8:32) South Island giant moa
    (13:54) North Island giant moa
    (14:30) Little bush moa
    (16:16) Heavy-footed moa
    (18:30) Mantell's moa
    (19:02) Crested moa
    (21:10) Stout-legged moa
    (21:51) Eastern moa
    (23:35) Upland moa

  • @on_6933
    @on_6933 4 года назад +412

    I really wish these birds were still alive 😭

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +88

      Same here, same here...

    • @yeahokbuddy2510
      @yeahokbuddy2510 4 года назад +41

      I mean the primitive humans had no idea what they were doing when they killed them. It’s not their fault they killed something that they may have thought was plentiful; not to mention, they had no idea how small or big their island was when they were on it. Obviously the Moa population was pretty small and secluded. They didn’t stand much of a chance from accelerant species like us humans. It’s sad and disappointing I know, but that was sadly nature back then :(

    • @yatmanto6952
      @yatmanto6952 4 года назад +5

      @@HenrythePaleoGuy couldn't they clone one

    • @aboomination897
      @aboomination897 4 года назад +44

      @@yeahokbuddy2510 "but that was sadly nature back then" - we're still forcing species into extinction at a faster and faster rate

    • @aboomination897
      @aboomination897 4 года назад +33

      @@yeahokbuddy2510 Btw, people back then weren't any more dumb than us. They probably killed the birds off by taking their territories and hunting them for trophies. At some point the birds probably were rare delicacies, which only made things worse.

  • @j-the-researcher8453
    @j-the-researcher8453 4 года назад +61

    Moa's are my favorite New Zealand birb

    • @glenbe4026
      @glenbe4026 4 года назад +3

      hmm, there is so many, I just can't choose one. Heracles Inexpectatus is extremely cool, but modern parrots like Kea and Kakapo are also cool. Then there are the purple chickens [Pukahoe] who are so bold you can't help but like em. Haast's Eagle would have been an awesome sight. The Crossvallia waiparensis [human sized Penguin] would also be cool to see.

    • @yeahokbuddy2510
      @yeahokbuddy2510 4 года назад +2

      Kiwi should be your favorite now since we can actually conserve and save them!

    • @j-the-researcher8453
      @j-the-researcher8453 4 года назад +1

      #1-Moa
      #2-Kakapo
      #3-Kiwi

    • @AkashSharma-vj4ck
      @AkashSharma-vj4ck 4 месяца назад +1

      I love birbs too

  • @katiobrien7854
    @katiobrien7854 4 года назад +561

    They used to be plentiful. But sadly, no moa.

  • @TheRunningLeopard
    @TheRunningLeopard 4 года назад +179

    Bro,,, nearly 40 minutes, we are blessed

  • @minted1841
    @minted1841 4 года назад +70

    Well done. Very sad NZ has lost such a fascinating bird. Thank you for taking me back in time.

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +5

      Thank you!

    • @hortonwilson9279
      @hortonwilson9279 2 года назад +3

      KFC mate that's where it would've ended up anyway, all humans no matter where you come from are greedy this bird stood no chance against man or ever other animal species for examples.

    • @fathergascoigne2450
      @fathergascoigne2450 Год назад +2

      ​@@hortonwilson9279 bro do you see a kiwi in kfc 😂

  • @gandalfandferg280
    @gandalfandferg280 4 года назад +38

    This is what I'd use a time machine for. I adore our native birds and forest and wish i could have seen it at it's peak.

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +9

      Same here! It's unbelievable how much has been lost over time.

  • @Grand_History
    @Grand_History 4 года назад +94

    I never knew there were so many species of Moa. I thought it was just one species

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +24

      They were quite a diverse group, so it's great that more people are starting to learn about this. :)

  • @Devin_Stromgren
    @Devin_Stromgren 4 года назад +109

    Moa, when birds try to become sauropods.

    • @londonjackson8986
      @londonjackson8986 4 года назад +10

      +Devin Stromgren I mean they even kinda look like certain species of sauropods. Especially at 6:14

    • @jondunmore4268
      @jondunmore4268 4 года назад +5

      Or maybe -- when birds were still sauropods.

    • @PyroRaptor1
      @PyroRaptor1 4 года назад +4

      They do have more neck vertebrae then theropods

    • @Jessicafaye_xo
      @Jessicafaye_xo 4 года назад +2

      Bird Rex

    • @firegator6853
      @firegator6853 4 года назад

      true

  • @The_PokeSaurus
    @The_PokeSaurus 4 года назад +45

    Oh boy, I'm gonna savor this video like fine wine.

  • @Scrinwaipwr
    @Scrinwaipwr 4 года назад +76

    Awesome dinosaurs. NZ must've been like The Lost World back in the day.

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 4 года назад +26

      And Madagascar was Skull Island.

    • @KhanMann66
      @KhanMann66 4 года назад +9

      Can you imagine what it must have felt seeing these for the first time?

    • @Riceball01
      @Riceball01 4 года назад +8

      Thank you for using the proper contraction of must have; too many people now a days would have misspelled it as must of.

    • @Scrinwaipwr
      @Scrinwaipwr 4 года назад +4

      @@Riceball01 they piss me off too.

    • @eybaza6018
      @eybaza6018 Год назад +4

      @@miquelescribanoivars5049 And Australia was literally hell.

  • @MickPosch
    @MickPosch 4 года назад +50

    If I put a statue of one of these in my yard instead of a flamingo, would it be a lawn moa?

  • @cole3662
    @cole3662 4 года назад +37

    I'd love to see a video on the Malagasy Elephant Birds! Hell, I'll even provide some of the papers I've translated into English.

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +19

      That would be very good! You can send them to me through my email if you want, as that's definitely a video I want to make in the future.

    • @malnutritionboy
      @malnutritionboy 4 года назад +8

      can't wait for that video. thanks to both of you!

  • @dubbixdub4376
    @dubbixdub4376 4 года назад +32

    Does any one else feel like they were born at the wrong time, I would give anything to have seen such beautiful birds😍

  • @thejurassicman661
    @thejurassicman661 4 года назад +6

    These are my favorite animals of all time. I would cryogenically freeze myself, only to be awaken when I get to see a living breathing Moa in front of me! I would hug it!

  • @Arnfrithr
    @Arnfrithr 4 года назад +15

    thanks for these videos as a kiwi who grew up overseas I've always enjoyed learning about birds from NZ but never got to see one until I came back but I still get joy out of learning stuff about our native birds.

  • @j-the-researcher8453
    @j-the-researcher8453 4 года назад +160

    Moa's look like a bird version of bigfoot

    • @alexv3357
      @alexv3357 4 года назад +10

      Birdfoot is real!

    • @thejurassicman661
      @thejurassicman661 4 года назад +4

      They could be at this point.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 4 года назад +2

      They remind me of mammoth.

    • @Brontosore
      @Brontosore 3 года назад +2

      actually they are the new larger ostrich (LARGEST BIRD)

  • @mymom1462
    @mymom1462 4 года назад +40

    Hi Henry!
    I still remember you from a comment on a Ben G Thomas where you had asked me to subscribe to you and I am really glad I did. You have a great editing sense and if I ever make a youtube channel you would be one of my inspirations. Thanks for your work king! Keep it up.

    • @j-the-researcher8453
      @j-the-researcher8453 4 года назад +4

      My Mom I saw that comment i that was funny

    • @j-the-researcher8453
      @j-the-researcher8453 4 года назад +3

      The man is on a grind tho

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +8

      Indeed! Trying to do as much as I can so I can continue to grow. :)

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +7

      Which video was that on? Been such a long time. :) And thank you, I'm glad that you think that way about my channel!

    • @mymom1462
      @mymom1462 4 года назад +6

      Henry the PaleoGuy it was a video where i had commented that there aren’t many channels like Ben G Thomas that have an engaging tone, unique style and a thought provoking show and that comment has aged like milk.

  • @Cris0065393
    @Cris0065393 4 года назад +26

    Thank you for giving us a vocal clip

  • @DorsenFilm
    @DorsenFilm 4 года назад +153

    Hope we can clone these.

    • @dillyDillzmuaythai4life
      @dillyDillzmuaythai4life 4 года назад +1

      If we clone them they wont be the same there will be brutal changes like they eat plants so if we clone them they will eat us and become very aggressive just like every other animal we try cloneing we cloned a monkey that eats trees and after the cloneing it becomes very aggressive and eat meat no longer plants

    • @tieck4408
      @tieck4408 4 года назад +16

      Don't worry, the meat industry will soon contemplate the marketability of a buffalo chicken leg the size of a table and grants will be forthcoming 😂

    • @dillyDillzmuaythai4life
      @dillyDillzmuaythai4life 4 года назад +1

      @@tieck4408 that does sound very succulent hahaha🤣

    • @Princess2Warrior
      @Princess2Warrior 4 года назад +11

      @@dillyDillzmuaythai4life *Source?*

    • @IN-eb3lm
      @IN-eb3lm 3 года назад +10

      @@dillyDillzmuaythai4life moa’s didn’t eat people

  • @yeahokbuddy2510
    @yeahokbuddy2510 4 года назад +47

    My man is dedicated. He only has 23k subs and is making high quality content!! I mean ffs this vidoe is about 40mins long! My man be hustling! Keep it up, you deserve way more subs!

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +10

      Thank you! I always try to improve with every video. And yes, it was a lot of work, but I'm sure it was all worth it! I hope to keep growing in the future!

    • @TheSoulCrisis
      @TheSoulCrisis 3 года назад +1

      @@HenrythePaleoGuy Yeah man this video is amazing :)

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b 4 года назад +17

    The moa skeleton in the Natural History Museum impressed me with its size more than the Diplodocus.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 4 года назад +1

      It's cooler in a way, because we know for a fact that humans encountered these birds.

  • @HenrythePaleoGuy
    @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +76

    Voting ends on Thursday if you haven't already.

  • @evodolka
    @evodolka 4 года назад +14

    learned a LOOOT more about Moa than i expected, this video was amazing to listen too

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +4

      Thank you! I'm glad you learned a great deal about these remarkable birds!

  • @Rampageotron
    @Rampageotron 4 года назад +42

    Sad, we almost got to see them. I wonder if we can bring them back...

    • @TheEnabledDisabled
      @TheEnabledDisabled 4 года назад +13

      well since we have a bunch of soft tissue of them and I believe some of them have intact dna so maybe. The problem is their size, its closet relatives are small and still genetically distincter than a mammoth is to an elephant.

    • @IWasaTeenageTeenWolf
      @IWasaTeenageTeenWolf 4 года назад +7

      Even a Kiwi egg might be big enough to house a Moa embryo. Eggs can't get too big or the baby suffocates, hence why even sauropod eggs only grew to the size of ostrich eggs. The largest bird egg on record is the Elephant bird and it's the absolute biggest an egg can get. So a Moa can be placed in a kiwi egg and allowed to catch that way.

    • @horse24draws9
      @horse24draws9 4 года назад +2

      I Was a Teenage TeenWolf or you could create an artificial egg

    • @hermeister3870
      @hermeister3870 4 года назад +1

      @@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf legit didnt know that! Thats interesting stuff.

    • @readyandwaitingwithasupris3693
      @readyandwaitingwithasupris3693 4 года назад

      Comunist bandits

  • @siddharthtripathi5806
    @siddharthtripathi5806 3 года назад +9

    NZers: we want moa back.
    Aussies: how do we kill emus?

  • @alexanderstavroulakis335
    @alexanderstavroulakis335 4 года назад +22

    At 06:14 it looks a bit like the mystics from "the Dark Crystal".

  • @smartacus88
    @smartacus88 4 года назад +35

    I'd have loved to have found New Zealand a few thousand years before the Maori or the English.

    • @evacope1718
      @evacope1718 4 года назад +7

      They maoris only came here around 800 years ago or so I think, NZ was one of the last inhabited places

    • @Mr_Riffman08
      @Mr_Riffman08 27 дней назад +1

      ​@@evacope1718Remember the indigenous people of New Zealand were colonized by westerners so I wouldn't believe anything that's been out regarding pre colonial history.Western colonizers are incredibly notorious for toiling with the history of lands they invade

  • @dumoulin11
    @dumoulin11 4 года назад +5

    I'm absolutely floored by the sheer amount of info in this video. Brilliant work. Thank you!

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +2

      Thank you! I'll be sure to post the sources in the description when I have the time.

  • @ophereon
    @ophereon 4 года назад +4

    Moa cloning would be amazing, I'd love for these birds to return to the land and make a comeback, could even become a regular sight here once again. They're easily my favourite birds of all time.

    • @melissagrant1649
      @melissagrant1649 4 года назад

      They'd probably just go extinct again if New Zealand doesn't get rid of or control introduced populations of invasive predators and herbivores; or at least place the birds in truly secure and heavily monitored (for vagrant predators and poachers) sanctuaries.

    • @ophereon
      @ophereon 4 года назад

      @@melissagrant1649 we do do that, we have entire bird sanctuaries that are predator free. We've still got a ways to go to eradicate pests throughout the country as a whole, but it's certainly not for lack of effort.

  • @Ptaku93
    @Ptaku93 4 года назад +5

    any chance for an episode dedicated exclusively to reported sightnings of moa?

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +4

      I can do one at some point. :)

    • @Ptaku93
      @Ptaku93 4 года назад +3

      @@HenrythePaleoGuy would be great, keep it up!

  • @veggieboyultimate
    @veggieboyultimate 4 года назад +13

    6:14 i cant believe a bird can make a sound that low, and a bit scary.

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +9

      Emu and Cassowary also make similar calls as well, and in person, can really make you feel uncomfortable. ruclips.net/video/nuSVLMHUkvQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Lkg7_6iaPdYh/видео.htmlttps://ruclips.net/video/4dcQO6Zb8Eg/видео.html

    • @veggieboyultimate
      @veggieboyultimate 4 года назад +4

      @@HenrythePaleoGuy wow that is low

    • @WintrBorn
      @WintrBorn 4 года назад +6

      They sound like that instument I can't spell used by the aboriginal peoples. It would be interesting if the moa was inspiration for the instrument.

    • @pompe221
      @pompe221 4 года назад +3

      Yeah, I was honestly surprised at how disturbing that call was.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 4 года назад +1

      @@WintrBorn Didgeridoo? Dij for short. Nah, that's Oz, not NZ.

  • @gabrielg.2401
    @gabrielg.2401 8 месяцев назад

    Paul Martinsons illustrations are truly magnificent. Thank you for making this excellent video on the moa - absolutely fascinating group.

  • @kevinpoe8137
    @kevinpoe8137 Год назад +2

    With the crested moa being as elusive as they were said to be, it kinda makes you wonder

  • @randocalrissian7573
    @randocalrissian7573 3 года назад +2

    I'm in nz and my cats 🐈 face when he heard them moa sounds was priceless 😂

  • @GeorgeTheDinoGuy
    @GeorgeTheDinoGuy 4 года назад +6

    I love prehistoric birds and modern birds, this is one of my favourite series on RUclips keep up the amazing videos!

  • @flaparoundfpv8632
    @flaparoundfpv8632 4 года назад +8

    Outstanding work here. You've tapped into the spirit of the moa.

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! I really wanted to make the best video I could on these remarkable animals. :)

  • @azzabazza3729
    @azzabazza3729 4 года назад +3

    Don’t know why this was in my recommended, but I’m 29 minutes in and I’m
    obsessed 😂

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +3

      Glad you found it! My channel seems to have a knack to bringing in people from across the internet. XD

  • @mikehawk4388
    @mikehawk4388 4 года назад +11

    Here I was, thinking "Wow, I wish we could hear the diverse sounds these guys would be capable of!" but then you played that spooky-ass deep call and......... I dunno what the heck I expected, but it sounds like most of those dinosaur hypothetical reconstructions I've heard, lol. Not shocking on second thought, but not something I'd want to happen upon out of nowhere, considering how violent large birds of today still are!

    • @Lexzah
      @Lexzah 3 года назад +2

      These Moa noises would be really close to the original sounds as well.
      I've been told that the Maori still pass down stories about these birds from those days, including the sounds they made. Which is very valuable information for scientists.

  • @kakapokid1796
    @kakapokid1796 4 года назад +7

    Fantastic video.
    The loss of the Moa is definitely a tragedy of natural history

  • @jonnywatts2970
    @jonnywatts2970 4 года назад +6

    What does highly derived mean? Am I an idiot for that question?

    • @i.m.evilhomer5084
      @i.m.evilhomer5084 4 года назад +2

      It basically means it's quite different & varied. For example: Humans are highly derived from other primates as they are exclusively bipedal & quite hairless compared to other living species of apes.

    • @i.m.evilhomer5084
      @i.m.evilhomer5084 4 года назад +4

      @k1w1 I wouldn't recommend converapedia as it's heavily biased & run by god-fearing American nut jobs.

    • @i.m.evilhomer5084
      @i.m.evilhomer5084 4 года назад +5

      @k1w1 No, it's just the owners are just crazy & many articles are heavily biased against people who don't follow conservative American ideals. I'll leave it at that as American politics is just too insane & out there for me.

    • @jonnywatts2970
      @jonnywatts2970 4 года назад +1

      @@i.m.evilhomer5084 Thanks!

    • @jonnywatts2970
      @jonnywatts2970 4 года назад

      @k1w1 thanks

  • @LiLi-or2gm
    @LiLi-or2gm 4 года назад +3

    A very comprehensive elucidation of our current knowledge related to these fascinating birds. Well done and thank you for your efforts to produce such an information-packed video!

  • @almachizit3207
    @almachizit3207 3 года назад +2

    Hearing what the Moa would have sounded like was something honestly quite magical. Hearing a group of them in the distance in the thick of a New Zealand forest would be very off-putting

  • @gregsole7147
    @gregsole7147 4 года назад +2

    We are watching a Cape Baron Goose feed in our paddock in Tai Tapu Canterbury this morning. Never seen one before. It’s an amazing looking bird.

  • @theangelbelow88
    @theangelbelow88 4 года назад +3

    Great video, definitely the most informative moa video I've ever seen 😎👍

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад

      Thank you! I always try to outdo the competition. :)

  • @wendychavez5348
    @wendychavez5348 4 года назад +2

    Your pacing is stellar--I remember when I visited New Zealand in 2005 being amazed at how quickly everybody spoke. My ear adapted and I quickly reached the point that I only had to ask people to repeat a couple of times a day; you speak clearly and slowly enough that I can enjoy the music of your dialect while still understanding every word you say. I regret that the moa have disappeared, though I'm not so sure cloning would be a good option despite it being a very real possibility. Thank you for helping me learn more about this lovely bird than I've ever had access to before.

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +4

      I'm glad you learned something new about this group of birds. My speech is generally slower due to coming from the UK, and and so that is definitely a part of it.

  • @judyhamblin427
    @judyhamblin427 3 года назад +2

    By far the most detailed presentation on Moas! Great video!

  • @Flugmorph
    @Flugmorph 4 года назад +2

    thank you for your incredible work.
    this is the primary video on moa awareness now.

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +1

      Indeed! It's great to give more attention to this remarkable group when so little videos exist on the topic.

  • @donavanzook6496
    @donavanzook6496 4 года назад +3

    Now this may sound bonkers, but if we approached it in a step ladder sorta way, we could clone them. With a purposefully created tiny version of the moa to be hatched in Tinamou eggs, creating a population. From there, progressively bigger and more realistic moas would be hatched from their previous prototype into we are able to get to giant eggs and the giant, full size moas.

  • @Annie1962
    @Annie1962 3 года назад +3

    A foot with flesh on it has been discovered in New Zealand - definitely a Moa. it's been aged at about 800-900 yrs old

    • @lizardguy4236
      @lizardguy4236 3 года назад +3

      The photo of that foot is in the video

  • @PaleoAnalysis
    @PaleoAnalysis 2 месяца назад +2

    ... I'll just sit in the back of the classroom with this blank piece of paper labeled "Lost Worlds New Zealand episode 2 script"
    Don't mind me... 📝👀

  • @gonzaguilar-yoga5102
    @gonzaguilar-yoga5102 4 года назад +3

    It feels so much nostalgia these creatures were recently alive and now they are gone. If se could just to back dome years ahí.

  • @theelderlardrider2425
    @theelderlardrider2425 4 года назад +8

    Its nice to see my country get some attention.

    • @HavenBriar
      @HavenBriar 4 года назад +1

      aww yeee

    • @michaelcho3564
      @michaelcho3564 4 года назад

      How does it feel that your airforces symbol is a kiwi?

    • @theelderlardrider2425
      @theelderlardrider2425 4 года назад

      @@michaelcho3564 what air force?

    • @HavenBriar
      @HavenBriar 4 года назад +2

      @@michaelcho3564 its just our way of flexing our military ability, when you see a flightless bird in the sky........you run

    • @michaelcho3564
      @michaelcho3564 4 года назад

      @@HavenBriar makes sense

  • @iksarguards
    @iksarguards 4 года назад +4

    I was not expecting such a beefy episode of bird of the week

  • @oposum244
    @oposum244 4 года назад +15

    It would be so cool if we somehow could restore New Zealand fauna to be as it was before Maori arrived.
    Man can only dream....

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +9

      Such a shame these animals were lost before they were at least documented.

  • @Titus-as-the-Roman
    @Titus-as-the-Roman 4 года назад +2

    Nice video and good information, keep up the good work. Thanks for posting and all the work involved in doing so.

  • @rondoclark45
    @rondoclark45 4 года назад +3

    That vocalization was awesome.

  • @frogglen6350
    @frogglen6350 4 года назад +30

    I hate the fact that they're extinct along with other animals. What a damn shame

  • @jondunmore4268
    @jondunmore4268 4 года назад +2

    6:14 -- That sound combined with that visual - TERRIFYING! Would've loved to have seen these things alive!

  • @allangarry9068
    @allangarry9068 4 года назад +2

    I Absolutely love when people make stuffed animals that are made life size and look as real as possible

    • @allangarry9068
      @allangarry9068 4 года назад

      hansatoystore.com/categories/Lifesize-Stuffed-Animals/0/?gclid=CjwKCAjwte71BRBCEiwAU_V9h8NQvKPQIaBK4UfKcK1yT3rK3XAr0hcspunS6OQ7MHg84zfmQXnNrRoCyGcQAvD_BwE

  • @ematic0054
    @ematic0054 4 года назад +17

    Anything: *exist*
    Humans: *Do you want to go extinct..?*

  • @Titanelephantbird
    @Titanelephantbird Год назад +2

    *List of moa species by weigh*
    1. South Island giant moa, Dinornis robustus
    Mass average: 125 kilograms
    2. North Island giant moa, Dinornis novaezealandiae
    Mass average: 100 kilograms
    3. Heavy-footed moa, Pachyornis elephantopus
    Mass average: 80 kilograms
    4. Broad-billed moa, Euryapteryx curtus
    Mass average: 75 kilograms
    5. Crested moa, Pachyornis australis
    Mass average: 67 kilograms
    6. Eastern moa, Emeus crassus
    Mass average: 58 kilograms
    7. Upland moa, Megalapteryx didinus
    Mass average: 40 kilograms
    8. Bush moa, Anomalopteryx didiformis
    Mass average: 40 kilograms
    9. Mantell's moa, Pachyornis geranoides
    Mass average: 27 kilograms

  • @geckoguy4141
    @geckoguy4141 4 года назад +5

    Fantastic video! There was so much I had no idea about on moa ecology and evolution. For years, I've been searching for the book: "Moa: the life and death of New Zealand's legendary bird." Sadly, I never got it when I had the chance and now it's super expensive. I don't think I'll ever see it again but at least this video will make do :) Thank so much for this amazing informative video!

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +2

      It was at my local library, which was really great in making this video. And thank you for watching, I'm glad you got something out of it.

  • @moaakumajem6415
    @moaakumajem6415 4 года назад +4

    Hey guys.. My name is Moa too..(Moa_akum) Its sad to hear that this bird which we share similar name has gone instict☹️☹️

  • @ethank.6602
    @ethank.6602 4 года назад +18

    Hungry maoris munched them out of existence

    • @martinharris5017
      @martinharris5017 4 года назад +2

      They didn't understand resource management, so they just hunted indiscriminately.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 4 года назад +3

      @@martinharris5017 Yet if we believe the so called "noble savage" idea, all tribal peoples were environmentally friendly.

    • @martinharris5017
      @martinharris5017 4 года назад +4

      @@anonb4632 Well, isn't a shame when a lovely idea is molested by a brutal gang of facts?

    • @randocalrissian7573
      @randocalrissian7573 3 года назад +3

      But seriously.. what kind of study or facts do you quote from bro

    • @martinharris5017
      @martinharris5017 3 года назад +2

      @@randocalrissian7573 "..., a new genetic study of moa fossils points to humankind as the sole perpetrator of the birds’ extinction. The study adds to an ongoing debate about whether past peoples lived and hunted animals in a sustainable manner or were largely to blame for the extermination of numerous species.
      “The paper presents a very convincing case of extinction due to humans,” says Carles Lalueza-Fox, an evolutionary biologist at the Institute of Evolutionary Biology in Barcelona, Spain, who was not involved in the research. “It’s not because of a long, natural decline.”
      Scientists have long argued about what caused the extinction of many species of megafauna-giant animals including mammoths, mastodons, and moas-beginning between 9000 and 13,000 years ago, when humans began to spread around the world. Often, the animals disappeared shortly after humans arrived in their habitats, leading some researchers to suggest that we exterminated them by overhunting. But other scientists have pointed to natural causes, including volcanic eruptions, disease, and climate change at the end of last Ice Age, as the key reasons for these species’ demise. The moas present a particularly interesting case, researchers say, because they were the last of the giant species to vanish, and they did so recently, when a changing climate was no longer a factor. But did other natural causes set them on a path to oblivion, as some scientists proposed in a recent paper?
      Morten Allentoft, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Copenhagen, doubted this hypothesis. Archaeologists know that the Polynesians who first settled New Zealand ate moas of all ages, as well as the birds’ eggs. With moa species ranging in size from 12 to 250 kilograms, the birds-which had never seen a terrestrial mammal before people arrived-offered sizable meals. “You see heaps and heaps of the birds’ bones in archaeological sites,” Allentoft says. “If you hunt animals at all their life stages, they will never have a chance.”
      Using ancient DNA from 281 individual moas from four different species, including Dinornis robustus (at 2 meters, the tallest moa, able to reach foliage 3.6 meters above the ground), and radiocarbon dating, Allentoft and his colleagues set out to determine the moas’ genetic and population history over the last 4000 years. The moa bones were collected from five fossil sites on New Zealand’s South Island, and ranged in age from 12,966 to 602 years old. The researchers analyzed mitochondrial and nuclear DNA from the bones and used it to examine the genetic diversity of the four species.
      Usually, extinction events can be seen in a species’ genetic history; as the animals’ numbers dwindle, they lose their genetic diversity. But the team’s analysis failed to find any sign that the moas’ populations were on the verge of collapse. In fact, the scientists report that the opposite was true: The birds’ numbers were stable during the 4000 years prior to their extinction, they report online today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Populations of D. robustus even appear to have been slowly increasing when the Polynesians arrived. No more than 200 years later, the birds had vanished. “There is no trace of” their pending extinction in their genes, Allentoft says. “The moa are there, and then they are gone.”
      The paper presents an “impressive amount of evidence” that humans alone drove the moa extinct, says Trevor Worthy, an evolutionary biologist and moa expert at Flinders University in Adelaide, Australia, who was not involved with the research. “The inescapable conclusion is these birds were not senescent, not in the old age of their lineage and about to exit from the world. Rather they were robust, healthy populations when humans encountered and terminated them.” Still, he doubts even Allentoft’s team’s “robust data set” will settle the debate about the role people played in the birds’ extinction, simply because “some have a belief that humans would not have” done such a thing.
      As for Allentoft, he is not surprised that the Polynesian settlers killed off the moas; any other group of humans would have done the same, he suspects. “We like to think of indigenous people as living in harmony with nature,” he says. “But this is rarely the case. Humans everywhere will take what they need to survive. That’s how it works.”
      www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/03/why-did-new-zealands-moas-go-extinct
      There are plenty of studies and research papers I can reference if you want further information Lando.
      ps Love the name "Rando Calrissian". I can sense a Star Wars themed adult movie role in your future:)

  • @asparadog
    @asparadog 4 года назад +5

    If the moa really did sound like the video shows, that would be a very scary thing to hear.
    Edit: I'm not disagreeing, but as we've never heard a live one, we can't be too sure, maybe it was higher/lower pitched, more diggish, etc.

  • @waikatowizard1267
    @waikatowizard1267 4 года назад +3

    subscribed man, thanks for all the info. I found a couple of moa bones when i was a farmer, we had alot of tomo (small caves) around, it was a bit of a laugh seeing if i could fit into some to see what i could see. got lucky on a couple of occasions. The ones i found were given to local museum, had thought of keeping one as a mantelpiece, but history deserves to be shared.

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +2

      Good on you! I'm glad you could make such great finds, and give back to the rest of the world.

  • @monkeypie8701
    @monkeypie8701 3 года назад +2

    when someone says moa but they're talking about a lawn mower

  • @connerreid3579
    @connerreid3579 3 года назад +2

    The moa could've single-handedly recorded a Christopher Nolan soundtrack.

  • @_kris10
    @_kris10 3 года назад +2

    thanks for the moa video

  • @WhoElseButZane
    @WhoElseButZane 4 года назад +1

    Sounds like these birds experience a true breath of the wild

  • @HoundofOdin
    @HoundofOdin 4 года назад +6

    I really hope we can clone moa back to life one day.

  • @RCSVirginia
    @RCSVirginia 4 года назад +6

    "No Moa, no Moa
    in old Aotearoa.
    Can't get 'em,
    They've et 'em.
    They're gone,
    and they ain't no Moa."
    Poem by W. Chamberlain
    Quoted by Richard Dawkins in
    "The Ancestor's Tale"

  • @RebelRadius
    @RebelRadius 4 года назад +2

    Another excellent presentation. Thank you. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • @clivescott5448
    @clivescott5448 4 года назад +3

    Great job Henry. Very comprehensive!

  • @cheaplaughkennedy2318
    @cheaplaughkennedy2318 4 года назад +3

    Really good episode.

  • @nikolai5839
    @nikolai5839 4 года назад +2

    Great video! I'm very glad to get more information on one of my favourite animals. Would you mind doing an episode on the haast's eagle too?

  • @joakos1122
    @joakos1122 4 года назад +2

    Amazing detail thanks for the great video learned so much keep up the fantastic work !!

  • @mstalcup
    @mstalcup 4 года назад +5

    It's frustrating to know that the a unique clade of bird species that were this magnificent and diverse perished so recently. These are technically non-avian theropods! The footprints look like something that formed in the Mesozoic. Modern humans saw them towering 3.6 meters above the ground. It's a profound loss.

  • @gailhowes9398
    @gailhowes9398 4 года назад +5

    You would think if they used these large birds for a food source they would have thought ahead by keeping a male and female of this breed they could be raised as they do chickens!

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 4 года назад +8

      The fact that Maori people didn't rely solely on Moa's for their substinence is probably the main reason why they overhunted them in the first place.
      This is beacuse the Maori weren't solely hunters and gatherers, they could fall back up on their imported crops as well as domesticated chickens and kiore rats. However this didn't stop the Maori from harvesting Moa's any less often, in fact it increased their impact upon them because: 1) They could mantain a larger population than strict hunter gatherer societies 2) Could overharvest natural resources without any aparent impact (at least at first).
      A recent paper comes to a similar conclussion regarding the extinction of megafauna in Madagascar, there early hunter gathers seem to have coexisted with the existing Megafauna in balance, but once cattle, agriculture and trade arrived to the island, the human population increased dramatically and the megafauna was quickly overharvested resulting in their extinction.
      theconversation.com/last-of-the-giants-what-killed-off-madagascars-megafauna-a-thousand-years-ago-112672

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +8

      There is a Maori story of a pet moa that was stolen by a rival tribe at some point in time, so, while that may have been possible, but only for the smaller species, they would have been far too slow at breeding to be reliable.

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 4 года назад +2

      @@HenrythePaleoGuy Its been suggested that slow breeding and growth was also the reason why the possible domestic breeding of Myotragus failed.

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 4 года назад +2

      @@soko4710 Oh, I didn't know. I assumed they did because other Polynesian groups had them.
      Well you gotta learn something new every day.

    • @sneeringimperialist6667
      @sneeringimperialist6667 4 года назад

      Moa only laid one or two eggs. Most people wouldn't have the patience to wait 8 years for a pair to mature for one or two eggs per year. Chickens mature in one year and can incubate a dozen eggs in a clutch.

  • @mariomouse8265
    @mariomouse8265 3 года назад +2

    I imagine that if Cryptozoologists found a living Moa; New Zealand will make that day into a national holiday

  • @gnomesb
    @gnomesb 4 года назад +2

    Epic video. Thank you. Great info quite a lot of it new to me.

  • @georgefleming4956
    @georgefleming4956 4 года назад +2

    Wow! I enjoyed this so much. I watched it TWICE in one day.
    Thank you.

  • @An-Internet-Naturalist
    @An-Internet-Naturalist 4 года назад +3

    Excellent video my dude. Very in depth! Hopefully if cloning develops sufficiently humanity can clone these awesome creatures and start up a viable breeding population so we can have wild populations of these fantastic birds once again. One can dream. Who knows? Maybe we'll live to see it ourselves.

  • @gonebush1000
    @gonebush1000 4 года назад +1

    This is the best Moa doco i have seen.Thanks.

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy  4 года назад +1

      I'm glad you think that. I tried to make it as comprehensive as possible, since there was no real equivalent on the site.

  • @ticket2space621
    @ticket2space621 2 года назад +1

    Would've been incredible to see these guys

  • @squoosetiel
    @squoosetiel 2 года назад +1

    I think if I was walking and heard a moa I would have absolutely shit my pants

  • @GoodVideos4
    @GoodVideos4 4 года назад +3

    I'm at Cape Town, South Africa. The first time I heard of the moa was at the museum here. There was a stuffed moa next to a stuffed ostrich in a glass cage. I thought that the ostrich was the largest flightless bird, and wondered what flightless bird was that one. I read the description, about it being the moa, and was then sad about it being extinct.

    • @GoodVideos4
      @GoodVideos4 2 года назад +2

      As the moa became extinct centuries ago, I was wondering where did they get that preserved body from.
      There was incidentally a flightless bird even larger than the moa, and extinct. That was the elephant bird of Madagascar.

    • @gabrielisaacc.almelor582
      @gabrielisaacc.almelor582 2 года назад +1

      Imagine when Antarctica was still green imagine the large penguins or birds in there

    • @GoodVideos4
      @GoodVideos4 2 года назад +1

      I read that in Antarctica skeletons of penguins 3 metres high were found.
      I was scrolling back now to see if I hadn't already mentioned that.

    • @gabrielisaacc.almelor582
      @gabrielisaacc.almelor582 2 года назад +1

      @@GoodVideos4 There is a possibility that because earth is warming today maybe the animals would become large in the near future

  • @Afrocanuk
    @Afrocanuk 3 года назад +3

    it's highly regrettable that these majestic birds were lost.

  • @HisameArtwork
    @HisameArtwork 4 года назад +2

    this was so informative. I'm writing about an alien planet where birds are the dominant family of animals, so this will be a great start to filling the niches, ty!

  • @BlackFalconElectronics
    @BlackFalconElectronics 4 года назад +2

    Please do more long form videos like this! Love it!!!

  • @hollyodii5969
    @hollyodii5969 4 года назад +7

    I want some Moa!

  • @rockyp3917
    @rockyp3917 4 года назад +2

    I came here looking for basic info of Moa. I think I have a Moa PhD now

  • @skyem5250
    @skyem5250 4 года назад +2

    Apteryx would have been a better name for a moa, because kiwis do have wings. They are tiny and adorable vestigial wings, but they are there unlike the truly wingless moas.

  • @lizardguy4236
    @lizardguy4236 3 года назад +2

    I didn’t know up was a documentary

  • @patrick247two
    @patrick247two 4 года назад +2

    Thank you.

  • @IsmailAbdulMusic
    @IsmailAbdulMusic 4 года назад +2

    Did any of the sailors who passed through areas around New Zealand during the 1200's or 1300's, write in their journals regarding sightings of extremely large birds? Same question goes for Madagascar and the extinct aepyornis bird (the elephant bird)

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 4 года назад +1

      I'm pretty sure that no sailors passed through areas around New Zealand during the 1200s or 1300s ^^

  • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
    @Gunners_Mate_Guns 4 года назад +6

    It's just shameful that short-sighted humans couldn't understand the consequences of their actions by devouring these magnificent beasts into oblivion.
    I'm a hunter, but that makes it all the more perplexing and sickening that my own species can't seem to learn how to stop annihilating so many species, often the most remarkable species to ever exist.

    • @ipercalisse579
      @ipercalisse579 4 года назад

      You van stop being a hunter

    • @globin3477
      @globin3477 4 года назад

      @@ipercalisse579 hunting can be done sustainably.

    • @martinharris5017
      @martinharris5017 3 года назад +1

      I think we're learning pretty well actually. Thankfully humans do have the ability to learn from our mistakes. (Even despite our leaders attempting valiantly to prevent us from doing so).

    • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
      @Gunners_Mate_Guns 3 года назад

      @@ipercalisse579 You obviously have not the first clue about the basics of hunting and the ecosystem.
      Pro tip: Humans fill the role of predators in areas where apex predators are no longer there to control the population of large animals that would ordinarily be preyed on by said apex predators.

  • @gregrefon
    @gregrefon 4 года назад +2

    Really nice piece, thank you 'Enry

  • @thegreenlandshark6086
    @thegreenlandshark6086 3 года назад +2

    I can see Moa: The Life and Death of New Zealand's Legendary Bird by Quinn Berentson was a prominent source of yours. It's a really great book, I'd recommend anyone interested in the Moa to read it.