Tom Garbo I never thought of keeping my old code books for that reason. It makes sense though. I had to take the journeyman test for Washington State in 2015 but it was still based on 2008 code. I had trouble finding one online and all I could find was the 3-ring binder 2008 NEC. The pages were ripping out from being pinched at the 3-hole punches while I was taking the test. I passed but it was nerve racking and it was down to the wire. I have the electronic (app) version of the code since 2008. Hopefully I won’t get sued for anything I did before ‘08 edition
i am an electrician, been in the trade for 29 years and counting! Love my job! love the path my career has taken me too! the past 10 years i've been working as a controls electrician, working with plc's and all types of assorted motor controls,never a boring day! love your videos!!!
I like what you said about collaborating with the other trades. Ever since watching this video the first time, I've actually started these kinds of conversations with other tradesmen. I've learned so much from asking these guys, "What is it about electricians that annoy you or make your job harder?" The other day a tile guy told me that they hate when we let out wire clippings fall between the cracks of floor tile that hasn't been grouted yet. And so now I make sure that the clippings go directly into a trash bag and/or I'll vacuum the area afterwards. I was able to explain to him that when he makes wall tile box cuts, it's better to err on the side of making the cut too wide than too narrow because the plate that goes over it is going to give at least 1/8" - 1/4" of overlap on all 4 sides. But it's a real pain in the neck to nip away at a piece of tile that's slightly covering a screw hole.
I been watching this videos since i started as a helper... years later im a licence electrician in Texas and in Colorado. Working towards my masters🏴☠️
Make no mistake, low voltage, IoT, and internet technology will become the new requirements of an electrician. Programming is already a big part now. A large part of this is just reading and staying curious about anything and everything. Read, Read, READ.
IM so happy that I went thru an apprenticeship as a technician and am now going thru it again as an electrician. Best of both will help me in this day and age of technology.
19:39 I am in trade school right now, listening to you. If we had more hands on in general, so many more people would be looking for an apprenticeship like me but are avoiding the trades in general, but a lot of them are looking for a "business degree" which is a neat idea but honestly, maybe 60% of my graduating class from high school is getting a business degree and so many of them don't know shit about the real life, and even worse all of them imagine themselves getting rich somehow from that degree. We need more hands on, more learning from doing, less sitting, I have my interview for my apprenticeship for IBEW on the first on January and I genuinely couldn't be more excited and stoked to become something. Things like this just make me want to become a trade instructor once I'm done with my career as an electrician and actually help some kids. 46:30 Yes! Get a master of every trade and just have a chat exactly like in this video, that would be amazing! BTW; we watched your conduit bending video in my trade class haha
Make sure you spend a little time as a helper at a company before you commit to an apprenticeship. Lets you see which way the wind blows. A note on the union, do your research about how much work that particular local has on a good and bad year. My local has frequent unemployment. Very odd for good years like this. I am a apprentice with the "ABC" school and employed by a large non union contractor
Ruke the secrete is getting a business degree and mastering a trade, at least that’s my plan, I have the degree and now I’m waiting for my interview with the IBEW local 20. I’m working as a CW3 at the moment and love it.
@@byronnlangley Yeah it would definitely help if you have a company to work with or something, problem is everyone our age just thinks that they will start out as CEO and its irritating me lol just lazy people expecting things to be handed to them.
@@byronnlangley same plan, i have a non union apprenticeship though. Freedom is nice but i hear good things about the IBEW. Cant imagine having less take home pay because of dues and travel ect...
“Jim Jarmusch once told me Fast, Cheap, and Good… pick two. If it’s fast and cheap it won’t be good. If it’s cheap and good, it won’t be fast. If it’s fast and good, it won’t be cheap. Fast, cheap and good … pick two words to live by. Tom Waits”
Had a buddy that became rich selling aluminum. He told me that you can only have 2 out of the 3 to be successful in his field: Price service & quality.
I just started my career as electrician a few days ago, loving every second of it. Love your videos, super helpful. Owner is a IEC apprentice competition winner and all the guys I’ve worked for so far have been amazing, I’m showing up early and calling them up then just bringing in everything needed before they arrive.
The trade school im currently attending is super hands on luckily. Im learning so much it's amazing. We touch on the important theoretical aspects in the classroom 20% of the time, then the rest is practical hands on work. 6 - 9 week course, I love it.
This is such a great conversation! Especially about respecting each other and fostering an environment of sharing knowledge and bringing each other up; trying to understand each other rather than put each other down. I'm starting my limited energy apprenticeship Monday (so more specific/lower voltage than inside electrical), but watching your videos to get an idea of lingo and the mindset of some electricians. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for asking! I just started my 7th and final term of class and should journey out in March. This term of class we're doing work on code, of course, but also foreman training. It's so cool to hear other classmates discuss their experience and know that the folks going into the industry truly care about making sure the crew is a happy, healthy, knowledgeable, and productive one. Making this career change has been the best thing I've ever done. Wish I knew about the option sooner, but so grateful to be here now. Thanks again!
Hearing your guys’ frustrations about seat and smart board academy’s makes me very appreciative of the trade school I’m attending. Yes they teach us how to find code rules in the book ,teach us theory , circuits and formulas plus trade math and computer skills but almost 1/2 our school day is spent in the school shop. We’re building real circuits , wiring panels, we’re soon going to be bending conduit. I think the biggest kick our instructor gets is when someone trips a breaker when it comes time to show their work. He encourages everyone to shout “walk of shame” when they have to go to the shop panel themselves and turn the breaker back on. They teach us the industry names of different wires devices and such but than after that it’s always field name. For instance he taught us what #12 SJOO is and what it’s limitations and uses are but from then there after it’s always referred as #12 cab tire. He said our boss is never going to say “go to the company van and retrieve a portion of AWG 12 SJOO”, he or she’s going to just say “go get me a roll of number 12 cab tire. Our 8 month course is accredited as 800 hours in the field and we can challenge our first exam (called the block 1 of 4 in Canada) when we’ve completed the course. Please keep doing what your doing Bro! Really great content!!!
I’ve been doing lighting for the last 12yrs in a lighting and electrical company in SoCal and I’m ready to move into the electrical side , I work and help our electricians with troubleshooting ,installs and learned some much . I’m ready to start learning and start a new chapter in my life and make a new great career for the rest of my life ... u should interview a electrician that started as a lighting tech and started from the bottom with retrofitting, wash and re-lamps and moved up in the trade . Love ur channel and appreciate all the great content ..
Steve Beight it’s annoying how this whole covid pandemic took away the hands on experience and it’s not easy to communicate with the teacher, plus we’re going into the field with little to no experience and I’m not ready to be shamed on for not knowing the basics
I just wanna say that all BMEPs are part of the construction industry. No one trade is "better" than the other. Same with design professionals and code administrators...we are all part of the same construction industry and team. We should all support each other. Electricians are the BOMB.!!!...and you guys are critical to the project success, as we all are. Thank you for your passion, knowledge, professionalism and all that you guys do!!!
I think I'm going to try. im female electrician been in for 10 years. im a Forman now. I've done a lot of different things but still have a lot more to learn. and im passionate, its fun.
A month in on a 12 month program at a technical college learning the trade. 7am-2pm Monday through Friday. 6 weeks to start it is lecture, learning theory, studying the code book then after the foundation is laid then we go into the lab & have to complete 60 different projects. The lab is a huge room with dozens of smaller rooms to work in. It is a great & challenging program.
I Recently got into teaching Electrical after being In the field for 12 years my self, I found a job with WECA our local apprentice program, I enjoyed watching this video as it really brought me back down to earth, I really wish apprentices had more free time to want o look up these videos, I see students come in to class after a really long day at work just drained with little to no motivation left to focus in class. although I know they really want to. I guess when you think about it, its all Part of the game, keep our game face on and keep trying. great video BTW
Very interesting talk, I agree with everything you said. Though I must say, most of the issues you mention are issues in America (continent wise), since we all tend to follow USA´s lead. But I had the luck to study, live, work in Europe for big engineering companies. And there it is quite different. I hold a MSc in Automation, but kids out of "highschool" had more experience than me, they have a system, where you actually have to decide: 1. If I attend a University then I Want to be in research 2. If I want to be an engineer but work in a more "practical" environment, lets say Manufacturing, then I pick a Tech College, 3. Some kids decide to go to a "technical highschool" (if you attend this you typically you won't attend a Uni or College), lets say, a kid wants to be a plumber, well he attends a 4 yr school for plumbers, he will need to be licensed an d certified before even lying a pipe. You want to build a wall, yep, you guessed it: 4 yrs of building walls school, license and yearly gvmt certification. There these blue collar worker make a lot of money, even more than engineers, and masters in science. There is a reason countries like Germany are what they are, you can almost trust a craftsman blindly. In America (continent wise) our cultures look down to these type of jobs. Great debate! I congratulate both of you ! Keep going strong! Cheers from Chihuahua, if you ever find your selves south of the border you´ll be welcome to a grill and cold beers . By the way, trust me, the biggest problems we have in the renewable world down here, is capable electricians with a love for quality craftmanship.
I'm not an electrician. I'm a former web developer who now teaches and owns a Self Defense school...why did I just watch this whole conversation, and why was it so interesting?!? 😃 Love your channel, Dustin. It's helped me with a lot of projects around my house, and even some basic stuff at my studio.
Hope you find something. Way too many companies only want young guys for apprenticeship. When I came out of the Army I passed test at several large companies that would not hire me because at 21 was told that I was not old enough. Graduated top of my vo tech class & Army fieldwireman course and rewired my first house at 15. Also me & another 10th grader used to do 100 amp services by ourselves. Good luck.
I watch as many of your videos as I can, and I gotta say I think this is the best one. So much knowledge and experience compressed into one piece of content. Invaluable. Thanks bro
I practice at home with conduit all the time and its helped immensely. I am a 2nd year apprentice now and love being in commercial. I love the challenge everyday. I went to trade school and worked under mentors as well. As a young guy I also understand a lot of youth these days don't know how to handle stressful situations or aren't as motivated to be open to learn.
You guys are great and very motivating! Keep up the great work. These videos give us guys confidence and vision to become the best and better everyday in this trade!
Finally getting my hands dirty, found job on Craigslist. Working 2 jobs. There has not been alot of sleep, there has been a lot of shit I've learned in just this one week alone. Now I continue to build confidence, increase muscle memory, and just increase my overall greatness with a combination of sweat equity and swag.
@ElectricianU @electricianu Might be a UK viewer but love the channel, if you need behind the scenes lackies, let me know, dabble with websites, forums, ecommerce and the like. Keep up the great work Dustin.
On the training issue, in the late 19th century there was the Mind and Hand movement. An effort to promote the "useful" arts training, but as an equal not in competition with the academic training. It wasn't just vocational training, MIT came out of this movement, their motto is "Mind and Hand". Look up Charles H. Ham, 'Mind and Hand: manual training, the chief factor in education' (1900). Or one of his other books on the topic. I believe the shop classes came out of this movement. One thing we need today in schooling compared to 30-40 years ago is basic tool skills training. Used to be most kids learned from a parent working on things but many parents can't change an outlet or fix a lawnmower anymore. Do that in say middle school then kids who get the bug for working with tools can pursue vocational training, but those more academic will at least know and appreciate some of the useful arts.
On my 5th year of electrical. Although I feel like I can literally wire up anything Single phase 3 phase anything really lol still good to learn from the OG’s
@@kevinveras8509 yeah it’s good money! I’m in my 20’s and own a house and a truck with a family so the money is decent though I’m not a millionaire or even close
@@kevinveras8509 One should never enter a career field just for the money. I was lucky that my dad & uncle were electricians ans started helping them in grade school. Had 50 great enjoyable years working as a sparky. Now retired and taking several vacations a year. Recommend that you attend a good school for any trade. Its the inly way you will have a grasp on the probably halve millon words in code book. I'm 70 years old and still learning. Good luck.
When I came of age in the 70s, your options were Nam, college, or trade school. I am so happy I picked trades. Without the 10k word story, I have gained so much useful knowledge in my life from learning the trades...how to build stuff. I strongly recommend if you like to build...learn a trade....as many as you can, and gain as much experience as you can. There is NO substitute for experience.
It’s great to hear other electrician go through the same shit I have gone thru. I agree with what you guys are saying about dumping down the trade. Here in Miami everyone is a electrician. I have to fix crazy shit you won’t believe. Here some asshole is willing to do my job for next to nothing. I been on the same company for 22 years. Don’t know what it is to work for someone else. I use to take my toys apart to see how it work. I love days when my synaptic fire on all cylinder great feeling.
I used to love shop class in highschool. Don’t know why I never thought of it as a career. Now I’m in electrical as an apprentice but I plan on getting into woodworking as a hobby
I enjoy wood working as well. I'm always making things with a handheld bandsaw at work in downtime. I took a small 2x4 and made a tobacco pipe, and made a paddle the other day and squared it off with my knife. It's quite fun lol
I’m a 10 year journeyman and foreman for mostly industrial jobs but I love the content y’all put out and we definitely need more podcast style videos like this. Keep the content coming and the electricians will find you.
Great clip! With over 20yrs in the trade I've learned alot thru mentors and the old timers. Now I find its not training guys on the trade thats tough but finding people with a work ethic. They want the title fame and glory but don't want to get dirty. We've had some older guys (late 30s early 40's) join our group and they are a relief to train because they for the most part have a great work ethic. But this is a great trade that I love and changes every day. Just wish the younger crowd would put the effort in. We definitely need them. But I'll soak up some more money and ot in the mean time :)
I started as a 1st level helper in 1992. We always worked 1 helper with 1 electrician . . . . . . for the last 10+ years when I am on a job, I am the only Journeyman and I will have a crew of 5 or 6 helpers. (((( I don't like it that way, but that is just how it works today. . . I see some kids that have been helpers for two or three years and don't know anything other than running conduit and pulling wire because they are never allowed to have time with me or another Journeyman to learn how to read prints or how to hook up services.
You are absolutely right that we need much more emphasis on trades in high school. The one lane highway of strictly academic college centered focus high school is dysfunctional. Especially because a lot of today's college work an degrees are useless. I'm retired. I went to college in science, then spent a career in computers because that fit me. I'm a nerd. But many of the people I saw in college should not have been there. They were there for social reasons, not learning or jobs. It's gotten worse in the decades since I was there. Stronger focus on hands on work like the trades would really help.
I am on the high voltage side, but I absolutely love your video’s. I originally wanted to be a residential/commercial electrician but had family who guided me to the high voltage. I love what I do but I also want to learn as much as I can about the electrical trade....hi from Canada
I have done a lot of electrical work on my house and I love it. Its so satisfying when after all that work I finally get the light to work or the plug to come on.
Yep. Enjoyed this. Been in the trade for 30 years and this was my life’s story. Nice to know we all faced the same situations and we weren’t alone dealing with them. Good content. Keep it coming. Yep.
The way you two are is the way I am as a diesel technician. I want to learn how everything works down to the nitty gritty engineering side. Because of this I created a name for myself as a technician. Apprentice to journeyman in 5 years participate in hands on national skill competitions almost every year, actually won one in 2018. The funny thing is back in 2010 I didn't know the difference between a fuel injector and a glow plug, quite literally, sort of an embarrassing moment. Your drive to be the best you can be is your only limiting factor.
I am grateful to have a hard ass old school electrician teaching my program. He might get a quarter of the way through a power point before he says F##k this lets go get our damn hands dirty. It is one thing to learn from a book but you can't every replace the value of hands on experience. You can understand how something is done, but until you do it yourself you will never KNOW how to do something.
I'm a little late for this but y'all are awesome individuals. My dad was an electrician and sometimes I wish I would have persuaded that trade. Wound up being an aircraft mechanic which was good for me. Kept my family fed for 39 years so really no regrets
Hi im eldberg from Philippines and also an electrician i like your conversation too many good advice. That is true if you make yourself valuable in your workplace they will find you. Master your craft don't chase money, if you master your craft money will find you.. thanks a lot
Do you have any videos of the Electrical trade vs other trades such as HVAC or plumbing? Maybe the reasons you chose to go with being an electrician? I am trying to make a decision between HVAC and electrician. Love the content!
Do Both. HVAC ...you will make more money. But harder work, and different knowledge. But being a LICENSED electrician to go along with it means you can do your own wiring.
I'm 30 years old and just finishing my first year as an apprentice, and hearing what I did in this video really just drove me further into this career path. Love your content man - keep doing what you're doing.
Not sure how you feel about an interview with a new apprentice, but coming from the "newer" generation of electricians coming up, there are are is so much I would like to bounce off you and learn from you and others in the industry. Lemme know what you think
I'm in my 3rd month of my apprenticeship. And all I been doing for the past 2 weeks is installing pre-fabricated pipes on a scissors lift at a data base jobsite that construction workers are building from the scratch. And all I gotta say is thank the Lord for pre fabricated pipes. Don't have to go through the trouble of bending all those pipes myself
Started my electrical career in the navy as a construction electrician. Got out after 5 years and thought I would have it made . It was not easy . I tried the union first but you needed to know somebody . Struggled to find work in Jersey and moved to socal and got a job roping apartments for $7 an hour in the late 80s . That company went bankrupt but I got laid off before that and got paid . Became a gypsy going from job to job . No real mentors so you figure it out yourself . Finally figured out Davis bacon jobs is where the money was going from $10 to $25 . A living wage at the time but still it was a gypsy lifestyle . Job ends go to the next contractor . Working was politics in my day if you did not play you were pushed out . I was laid off once and the guy said your to happy your up to something as I bailed him out on many thing . That could have been a inferiority complex . What changed for me was starting my own electrical business . No politics except some customers trying to work your price down but you figure out those people pretty quick and don't bother with them . Now some get on with good companies and spend a career with them . That wasn't in my cards . No benefits except maybe a turkey for Thanksgiving . Today it appears to me opportunity is so much better . People use to call me for work all the time . Nothing for the last decade .
I like the fact that you are very honest and always open to share your knowledge. I've met some guys who wouldn't teach you how to do something or just hide information from you, as if they wanted you to stay ignorant all the time.
Thanks my friend! I’ve met people like that too. It’s an insecurity with them. They don’t feel like they’re good enough and they’re afraid you’ll pass them up. Very small minded way of existing but I understand it.
I worked as a Union Electrician for 35 years. I have a comfortable retirement with pension and health benefits for life. Everywhere I worked, the Union pay was better than non-union. Given that, wouldn't it be better to be Union than non Union ? When we worked overtime we were handsomely paid. You may think different, but I would say Union tradesmen are better trained, on average. I spent 4 years of going to night school for 3 hours, twice a week for my Apprenticeship.. That, while working 40hrs a week. Of course, there are many great trade schools out there as well as many skilled non union Electricians. But given the benefits of being a Union member always outweighed the downside of paying dues. IMHO
Dude! Great show. Respect on the feedback and finding ways for constructive feedback with the positive. Your guys mentorship are a dream of mine. Can't wait to dive into this trade and learn, learn, learn and learn. Find mine mentor grow and teach those coming up behind me. Thank you for showing such professionalism and collaboration. Made RESPECT!!! 🙏
so many people like myself need to learn with hands on experience because the mistakes that we make while learning solidify the right techniques in our minds. hands on learning is so under rated and too many people want their new employees to have text book knowledge when text book knowledge only goes so far. physical practices is far more important and encourages creative thinking and problem solving. businesses need to lean into the journeyman method of training.
We used to take pride in our trades! I really like this sit and talk about what we do.. I’m coming from maintenance millwrite point of view, I love my job I take pride in everything I do my best to make sure my name is associated with good solid work! If the trades could be a brotherhood In a whole would be amazing!! Could you imagine the knowledge we could pass Amongst ourselves? Anyway good job bud! Keep it up!
I love it... YOU CALLED ME, I DON'T NEED YOU. I CAN JUST HOP IN THE VAN AND HEAD OUT TO ANOTHER CALL! I liked the older dude. Talk about keeping things real dude was on point. I never understood why rich people have to go out of their way to treat tradesmen like less than dirt. If tradesmen do jobs in my home do a great job I give them a tip. I give them cold bottled water. Tradesman are still guests in my home who must be treated well. I marvel at how easy they make their craft look!
The IEC in my area is turning out a lot of four year apprentice who can’t pass a test. I know many IEC graduates that are having to go attend a “No Pass/No Pay” clinic to get their cards.
Pete Carroll since I posted this response, I have become a 4th year IEC instructor. I decided to be a solution to this problem since the trade has been so good to me. I don’t know if I can make a difference but I am going to give it my all.
In 1976 when I was in fourth grade I would watch the town houses being built next to me from surveying the land to people moving in watching all the people and helping them I was there because I didn’t like copper being wasted and thrown out so I was picking up all the copper and taking it home that they gave meThis reminds me of all the fun walking through the The buildings how fun it was I was in the printing industry and then I wasDriving is a carrier courier driver now I mostly look for Scrap Metal
Great vid Dustin! I love the talk n topics you guys touched on. Just getting my feet wet with the elec trade, and want to be a great knowledgeable electrician one day, just trying to figure out how to change from a general contractor to one & at 37yrs old -up here in boston. Lookin forward to new videos. Thank you! -Evan
I’m a second-year apprentice with the IBEW. I want to let you know that I really appreciate your channel. The topics you post I find to be very helpful and informative. Currently I’m mostly working in an industrial setting and I appreciate your point of view. Keep up the good work!!! I totally agree with you we do need more craftsman doing RUclips channels like this. Great job dude!
N.B.A your application is good for one year. Apply closer to the cut off time which I believe is May. You’re put on a list of the top candidates and be aware you can slip in your ranking . They normally select 15 candidates. Good luck !
@@Tholmes8913 my Local took 120 first years for 2019 and they already have 50 for 2020. It all depends on the local union and demand for more guys. I'm a 4th year that had to wait 3 years to get in due to work being slow. It's all about demand.
It's already hard enough to get a job as an apprentice electrician because most companies want people with experience and most schools don't provide that, they only provide the education but not the hands on training.
Have to go to school. Learn the NEC. Be willing to take a lot of crap while a helper. It sucks being a gopper but we all had to go thru it. Best trade.
There is a big difference. I have worked both. Union and non union . In the union you have so many different opportunities and do so many different types of electrical because you have so many different companies to learn from.
I've had a similar experience in my area, but word around the apprenticeship is that tons of more experienced guys have been changing companies lately, and now i'm totally swamped with job offers. Be persistent and find a company that is a good fit for you. It should all work out, everyone needs people of all levels.
Great discussion, I love your videos. I've been taking HVAC classes in Southern California, but in doing so kind of realised that electrical work is something I'm passionate about and that being an electrician is what I really want to do with my life. I don't want to stay in California though, would you be able to answer questions/do a video about journeyman reciprocity between states? I don't want to start working towards becoming a journeyman here if I won't be able to take it with me if/when I leave the state. Thanks!
I want to have the kind of drive that you have I love electrical work. I have been in the electrical trade for over 15 years but I still have not made a difference . I haven't even got a license there is just so much to learn and I have learning disabilities. Even with those I have learned a lot I just wish I could be as good as you I just don't know how to make myself better at it . I love watching videos and learning more about it I just can't keep it all in my head.
I understand what you guys meant about how the pay has and is decreasing by under bidding jobs to bet the competition. But i just cant get over the fact that not much can get done on site without electricity. I feel like the trade as a whole should deffinatly get paid more.
I work alone wiring new homes or reno's but when i see someone down in the gutter ,i ask him if he wants to help me for a day..end of the day i pay that person from my own money
Excellent video contents and very well worth the time listening to two wisemen constructive discussion. Indeed learning never stopped, and good quality work plus customer satisfaction is always great satisfying experience. Holding an FCC Commercial Radiotelephone License, GMDSS Radio Operator/ Maintainer Lic., with Ship Radar Endorsement, Extra Class Amateur Radio License, but my passion about electricity and electrician work is always very gratifying. Great educational vids and I always enjoy listening to them.
it's just something I've noticed with the younger generation. I like to learn about anything and everything. I went and got a high school 30 calculus credit when I decided I wanted to join the trade (although use it rarely) and originally I'd planned to get a psych degree but really wanted to be an electrician. I've taken 3 of the 4 levels of schooling and there's no ambition in our classrooms. 8 out of 10 teachers are washed up and stale. But the other guys would always be surprised or joke when they'd find out I was studying. And I'm just like, it's actually really super interesting and like the guy says you definitely don't learn as much with all the pre fab, and microprocessors and the like. Take pride in your work and learning. Appreciate that your job can actually be fun, just be safe. And that you can make a decent wage too. Work smarter not harder. PS: Should do more of these. Bring in teachers too? I think that would be awesome
I say you make the Double D show a regular staple to your channel. I'd love to see a segment discussing electrical accidents and how they could have been avoided. My two cents. Excellent job!
Don was mistaken when speaking about the union non-union saying "you work for company a and i work for company b". In the union you don't work for the company, you work for the union.
I worked 50 years as a sparky but never in the electrical union. Best thing about unions when the place you are working for closes up ( happened to me 3.times ) you still maitain benefits if you get picked up on another job. Same thing with 401K's. Loose u job & have to wait up to a year before new company matches your contribution.
If you could get a foreign electrician that would be cool to compare the difference in countries.
Great episode.
Thomas Nagy has a good channel out of the UK
Great idea
I always thought about electricians around the world type video would be cool
Hi to all! I want to migrate and work into the UK, USA or Canada. Do you hire?
Tom Garbo I never thought of keeping my old code books for that reason. It makes sense though. I had to take the journeyman test for Washington State in 2015 but it was still based on 2008 code. I had trouble finding one online and all I could find was the 3-ring binder 2008 NEC. The pages were ripping out from being pinched at the 3-hole punches while I was taking the test. I passed but it was nerve racking and it was down to the wire. I have the electronic (app) version of the code since 2008. Hopefully I won’t get sued for anything I did before ‘08 edition
i am an electrician, been in the trade for 29 years and counting! Love my job! love the path my career has taken me too! the past 10 years i've been working as a controls electrician, working with plc's and all types of assorted motor controls,never a boring day! love your videos!!!
Woah nice dude! I'm 22 and thinking of getting into the trades
I've been a residential electrician for about 4 years. I'd love to get into the type of work you're in.
48 years Best job to be employed in.
That's what I want to get into
That's my Dad!!!!!
Mason Metcalf No Sir that’s my dad
That’s my big poppa.
My dad died of disappointment at my birth
FYI You made a great decision not going to college. What a waste!
Awesome!! ⚡⚡⚡
I like what you said about collaborating with the other trades. Ever since watching this video the first time, I've actually started these kinds of conversations with other tradesmen. I've learned so much from asking these guys, "What is it about electricians that annoy you or make your job harder?" The other day a tile guy told me that they hate when we let out wire clippings fall between the cracks of floor tile that hasn't been grouted yet. And so now I make sure that the clippings go directly into a trash bag and/or I'll vacuum the area afterwards. I was able to explain to him that when he makes wall tile box cuts, it's better to err on the side of making the cut too wide than too narrow because the plate that goes over it is going to give at least 1/8" - 1/4" of overlap on all 4 sides. But it's a real pain in the neck to nip away at a piece of tile that's slightly covering a screw hole.
That’s needed
I been watching this videos since i started as a helper... years later im a licence electrician in Texas and in Colorado. Working towards my masters🏴☠️
Make no mistake, low voltage, IoT, and internet technology will become the new requirements of an electrician. Programming is already a big part now. A large part of this is just reading and staying curious about anything and everything. Read, Read, READ.
IM so happy that I went thru an apprenticeship as a technician and am now going thru it again as an electrician. Best of both will help me in this day and age of technology.
19:39 I am in trade school right now, listening to you. If we had more hands on in general, so many more people would be looking for an apprenticeship like me but are avoiding the trades in general, but a lot of them are looking for a "business degree" which is a neat idea but honestly, maybe 60% of my graduating class from high school is getting a business degree and so many of them don't know shit about the real life, and even worse all of them imagine themselves getting rich somehow from that degree. We need more hands on, more learning from doing, less sitting, I have my interview for my apprenticeship for IBEW on the first on January and I genuinely couldn't be more excited and stoked to become something. Things like this just make me want to become a trade instructor once I'm done with my career as an electrician and actually help some kids.
46:30 Yes! Get a master of every trade and just have a chat exactly like in this video, that would be amazing!
BTW; we watched your conduit bending video in my trade class haha
Make sure you spend a little time as a helper at a company before you commit to an apprenticeship. Lets you see which way the wind blows. A note on the union, do your research about how much work that particular local has on a good and bad year. My local has frequent unemployment. Very odd for good years like this. I am a apprentice with the "ABC" school and employed by a large non union contractor
Ruke the secrete is getting a business degree and mastering a trade, at least that’s my plan, I have the degree and now I’m waiting for my interview with the IBEW local 20. I’m working as a CW3 at the moment and love it.
@@byronnlangley Yeah it would definitely help if you have a company to work with or something, problem is everyone our age just thinks that they will start out as CEO and its irritating me lol just lazy people expecting things to be handed to them.
@@byronnlangley same plan, i have a non union apprenticeship though. Freedom is nice but i hear good things about the IBEW. Cant imagine having less take home pay because of dues and travel ect...
@@alecthenice8115 That's actually the rout I'm going to take, haven't applied yet due to other reasons but brushing up on theory.
“Jim Jarmusch once told me Fast, Cheap, and Good… pick two. If it’s fast and cheap it won’t be good. If it’s cheap and good, it won’t be fast. If it’s fast and good, it won’t be cheap. Fast, cheap and good … pick two words to live by.
Tom Waits”
Had a buddy that became rich selling aluminum. He told me that you can only have 2 out of the 3 to be successful in his field: Price service & quality.
Cheap and Good isn’t cheap!! Unless your not paying good. Good is not cheap.
I just started my career as electrician a few days ago, loving every second of it. Love your videos, super helpful. Owner is a IEC apprentice competition winner and all the guys I’ve worked for so far have been amazing, I’m showing up early and calling them up then just bringing in everything needed before they arrive.
The trade school im currently attending is super hands on luckily. Im learning so much it's amazing. We touch on the important theoretical aspects in the classroom 20% of the time, then the rest is practical hands on work. 6 - 9 week course, I love it.
This is such a great conversation! Especially about respecting each other and fostering an environment of sharing knowledge and bringing each other up; trying to understand each other rather than put each other down. I'm starting my limited energy apprenticeship Monday (so more specific/lower voltage than inside electrical), but watching your videos to get an idea of lingo and the mindset of some electricians. Thank you for sharing!
Howz your apprenticeship going. I see this was posted three ago.
Thank you for asking! I just started my 7th and final term of class and should journey out in March. This term of class we're doing work on code, of course, but also foreman training. It's so cool to hear other classmates discuss their experience and know that the folks going into the industry truly care about making sure the crew is a happy, healthy, knowledgeable, and productive one.
Making this career change has been the best thing I've ever done. Wish I knew about the option sooner, but so grateful to be here now. Thanks again!
@@maikamal8567 I'm just curious how much do you guys make as journeyman electricians.
Reach out to Roger Wakefield's Plumbing channel. I think he is located in Austin or Dallas Texas area.
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Hearing your guys’ frustrations about seat and smart board academy’s makes me very appreciative of the trade school I’m attending. Yes they teach us how to find code rules in the book ,teach us theory , circuits and formulas plus trade math and computer skills but almost 1/2 our school day is spent in the school shop. We’re building real circuits , wiring panels, we’re soon going to be bending conduit. I think the biggest kick our instructor gets is when someone trips a breaker when it comes time to show their work. He encourages everyone to shout “walk of shame” when they have to go to the shop panel themselves and turn the breaker back on. They teach us the industry names of different wires devices and such but than after that it’s always field name. For instance he taught us what #12 SJOO is and what it’s limitations and uses are but from then there after it’s always referred as #12 cab tire. He said our boss is never going to say “go to the company van and retrieve a portion of AWG 12 SJOO”, he or she’s going to just say “go get me a roll of number 12 cab tire. Our 8 month course is accredited as 800 hours in the field and we can challenge our first exam (called the block 1 of 4 in Canada) when we’ve completed the course. Please keep doing what your doing Bro! Really great content!!!
I’ve been doing lighting for the last 12yrs in a lighting and electrical company in SoCal and I’m ready to move into the electrical side , I work and help our electricians with troubleshooting ,installs and learned some much . I’m ready to start learning and start a new chapter in my life and make a new great career for the rest of my life ... u should interview a electrician that started as a lighting tech and started from the bottom with retrofitting, wash and re-lamps and moved up in the trade . Love ur channel and appreciate all the great content ..
I totally agree. hands-on teaching is key. And having a teacher who worked the field
This was a freaking great video! Young people, you should be looking to go into this trade. Great channel!!!!!
Just got accepted for an apprenticeship. The way the car market is going, I think it’s a great idea to become an electrician
I’m thinking of dropping out. Relays are annoying and no hands on is a killer. I’m gonna go into the field clueless
Rigs don't give up buddy.......
Steve Beight it’s annoying how this whole covid pandemic took away the hands on experience and it’s not easy to communicate with the teacher, plus we’re going into the field with little to no experience and I’m not ready to be shamed on for not knowing the basics
6 months in , started the day after my 18th birthday and my boss is looking into an apprenticeship for me
I don’t care how shy he is Dustin, this man needs a RUclips channel, thanks again always for sharing and dropping the knowledge.
I just wanna say that all BMEPs are part of the construction industry. No one trade is "better" than the other. Same with design professionals and code administrators...we are all part of the same construction industry and team. We should all support each other. Electricians are the BOMB.!!!...and you guys are critical to the project success, as we all are. Thank you for your passion, knowledge, professionalism and all that you guys do!!!
I think I'm going to try. im female electrician been in for 10 years. im a Forman now. I've done a lot of different things but still have a lot more to learn. and im passionate, its fun.
6duce hell yeah man 🤘🏼
Sabrina Sifontes Ma’am*** 😂😂
A month in on a 12 month program at a technical college learning the trade. 7am-2pm Monday through Friday. 6 weeks to start it is lecture, learning theory, studying the code book then after the foundation is laid then we go into the lab & have to complete 60 different projects. The lab is a huge room with dozens of smaller rooms to work in. It is a great & challenging program.
I Recently got into teaching Electrical after being In the field for 12 years my self, I found a job with WECA our local apprentice program, I enjoyed watching this video as it really brought me back down to earth,
I really wish apprentices had more free time to want o look up these videos, I see students come in to class after a really long day at work just drained with little to no motivation left to focus in class. although I know they really want to. I guess when you think about it, its all Part of the game, keep our game face on and keep trying. great video BTW
Very interesting talk, I agree with everything you said. Though I must say, most of the issues you mention are issues in America (continent wise), since we all tend to follow USA´s lead. But I had the luck to study, live, work in Europe for big engineering companies. And there it is quite different. I hold a MSc in Automation, but kids out of "highschool" had more experience than me, they have a system, where you actually have to decide:
1. If I attend a University then I Want to be in research
2. If I want to be an engineer but work in a more "practical" environment, lets say Manufacturing, then I pick a Tech College,
3. Some kids decide to go to a "technical highschool" (if you attend this you typically you won't attend a Uni or College), lets say, a kid wants to be a plumber, well he attends a 4 yr school for plumbers, he will need to be licensed an d certified before even lying a pipe. You want to build a wall, yep, you guessed it: 4 yrs of building walls school, license and yearly gvmt certification.
There these blue collar worker make a lot of money, even more than engineers, and masters in science. There is a reason countries like Germany are what they are, you can almost trust a craftsman blindly. In America (continent wise) our cultures look down to these type of jobs.
Great debate! I congratulate both of you ! Keep going strong! Cheers from Chihuahua, if you ever find your selves south of the border you´ll be welcome to a grill and cold beers .
By the way, trust me, the biggest problems we have in the renewable world down here, is capable electricians with a love for quality craftmanship.
I'm not an electrician. I'm a former web developer who now teaches and owns a Self Defense school...why did I just watch this whole conversation, and why was it so interesting?!? 😃
Love your channel, Dustin. It's helped me with a lot of projects around my house, and even some basic stuff at my studio.
I’m fifty two years old looking for a apprentice position and really enjoy listening to both of you thank you for inviting Bob
Hope you find something. Way too many companies only want young guys for apprenticeship. When I came out of the Army I passed test at several large companies that would not hire me because at 21 was told that I was not old enough. Graduated top of my vo tech class & Army fieldwireman course and rewired my first house at 15. Also me & another 10th grader used to do 100 amp services by ourselves. Good luck.
43 here and looking to apprentice next spring…
I watch as many of your videos as I can, and I gotta say I think this is the best one. So much knowledge and experience compressed into one piece of content. Invaluable. Thanks bro
This is an excellent stream. Appreciate yall taking the time for sharing yall thoughts on whats ahead
I practice at home with conduit all the time and its helped immensely. I am a 2nd year apprentice now and love being in commercial. I love the challenge everyday. I went to trade school and worked under mentors as well. As a young guy I also understand a lot of youth these days don't know how to handle stressful situations or aren't as motivated to be open to learn.
You guys are great and very motivating! Keep up the great work. These videos give us guys confidence and vision to become the best and better everyday in this trade!
Finally getting my hands dirty, found job on Craigslist. Working 2 jobs. There has not been alot of sleep, there has been a lot of shit I've learned in just this one week alone. Now I continue to build confidence, increase muscle memory, and just increase my overall greatness with a combination of sweat equity and swag.
Gotta move like a ninja
@ElectricianU @electricianu Might be a UK viewer but love the channel, if you need behind the scenes lackies, let me know, dabble with websites, forums, ecommerce and the like. Keep up the great work Dustin.
On the training issue, in the late 19th century there was the Mind and Hand movement. An effort to promote the "useful" arts training, but as an equal not in competition with the academic training. It wasn't just vocational training, MIT came out of this movement, their motto is "Mind and Hand".
Look up Charles H. Ham, 'Mind and Hand: manual training, the chief factor in education' (1900). Or one of his other books on the topic. I believe the shop classes came out of this movement.
One thing we need today in schooling compared to 30-40 years ago is basic tool skills training. Used to be most kids learned from a parent working on things but many parents can't change an outlet or fix a lawnmower anymore. Do that in say middle school then kids who get the bug for working with tools can pursue vocational training, but those more academic will at least know and appreciate some of the useful arts.
On my 5th year of electrical. Although I feel like I can literally wire up anything Single phase 3 phase anything really lol still good to learn from the OG’s
is it good money/good pay???
Us old guys know a lot of tricks that make work easier.
@@kevinveras8509 yeah it’s good money! I’m in my 20’s and own a house and a truck with a family so the money is decent though I’m not a millionaire or even close
@@garbo8962 teach me
@@kevinveras8509 One should never enter a career field just for the money. I was lucky that my dad & uncle were electricians ans started helping them in grade school. Had 50 great enjoyable years working as a sparky. Now retired and taking several vacations a year. Recommend that you attend a good school for any trade. Its the inly way you will have a grasp on the probably halve millon words in code book. I'm 70 years old and still learning. Good luck.
When I came of age in the 70s, your options were Nam, college, or trade school. I am so happy I picked trades. Without the 10k word story, I have gained so much useful knowledge in my life from learning the trades...how to build stuff. I strongly recommend if you like to build...learn a trade....as many as you can, and gain as much experience as you can. There is NO substitute for experience.
It’s great to hear other electrician go through the same shit I have gone thru. I agree with what you guys are saying about dumping down the trade. Here in Miami everyone is a electrician. I have to fix crazy shit you won’t believe. Here some asshole is willing to do my job for next to nothing. I been on the same company for 22 years. Don’t know what it is to work for someone else. I use to take my toys apart to see how it work. I love days when my synaptic fire on all cylinder great feeling.
I used to love shop class in highschool. Don’t know why I never thought of it as a career. Now I’m in electrical as an apprentice but I plan on getting into woodworking as a hobby
I enjoy wood working as well. I'm always making things with a handheld bandsaw at work in downtime. I took a small 2x4 and made a tobacco pipe, and made a paddle the other day and squared it off with my knife. It's quite fun lol
My first project will be making a cigar humidor 👍🏽
I’m a 10 year journeyman and foreman for mostly industrial jobs but I love the content y’all put out and we definitely need more podcast style videos like this. Keep the content coming and the electricians will find you.
"Should be required to take one year and see all the different trades"
Well, I heard from my pops that used to be called shop class.
Glad to find you guys. 1st year out of LU# 477. Thanks for putting your knowledge out there for us younger guys to soak up.
💯 Solid conversation, thank you! 👏🏼
Great idea!
Interview master tradesman from other trades.
Great clip! With over 20yrs in the trade I've learned alot thru mentors and the old timers. Now I find its not training guys on the trade thats tough but finding people with a work ethic. They want the title fame and glory but don't want to get dirty. We've had some older guys (late 30s early 40's) join our group and they are a relief to train because they for the most part have a great work ethic. But this is a great trade that I love and changes every day. Just wish the younger crowd would put the effort in. We definitely need them. But I'll soak up some more money and ot in the mean time :)
This is a great interview! It's not easy to keep a conversation going on camera that is this interesting.
Been doing it since 96. Fun stuff.
I started as a 1st level helper in 1992. We always worked 1 helper with 1 electrician . . . . . . for the last 10+ years when I am on a job, I am the only Journeyman and I will have a crew of 5 or 6 helpers. (((( I don't like it that way, but that is just how it works today. . . I see some kids that have been helpers for two or three years and don't know anything other than running conduit and pulling wire because they are never allowed to have time with me or another Journeyman to learn how to read prints or how to hook up services.
You are absolutely right that we need much more emphasis on trades in high school. The one lane highway of strictly academic college centered focus high school is dysfunctional. Especially because a lot of today's college work an degrees are useless. I'm retired. I went to college in science, then spent a career in computers because that fit me. I'm a nerd. But many of the people I saw in college should not have been there. They were there for social reasons, not learning or jobs. It's gotten worse in the decades since I was there. Stronger focus on hands on work like the trades would really help.
I am on the high voltage side, but I absolutely love your video’s. I originally wanted to be a residential/commercial electrician but had family who guided me to the high voltage. I love what I do but I also want to learn as much as I can about the electrical trade....hi from Canada
Go SeaHawks! Go Electrician U ! Thank you both for this production.
I have done a lot of electrical work on my house and I love it. Its so satisfying when after all that work I finally get the light to work or the plug to come on.
Yep. Enjoyed this. Been in the trade for 30 years and this was my life’s story. Nice to know we all faced the same situations and we weren’t alone dealing with them. Good content. Keep it coming. Yep.
The way you two are is the way I am as a diesel technician. I want to learn how everything works down to the nitty gritty engineering side. Because of this I created a name for myself as a technician. Apprentice to journeyman in 5 years participate in hands on national skill competitions almost every year, actually won one in 2018. The funny thing is back in 2010 I didn't know the difference between a fuel injector and a glow plug, quite literally, sort of an embarrassing moment. Your drive to be the best you can be is your only limiting factor.
I am grateful to have a hard ass old school electrician teaching my program. He might get a quarter of the way through a power point before he says F##k this lets go get our damn hands dirty. It is one thing to learn from a book but you can't every replace the value of hands on experience. You can understand how something is done, but until you do it yourself you will never KNOW how to do something.
I'm a little late for this but y'all are awesome individuals. My dad was an electrician and sometimes I wish I would have persuaded that trade. Wound up being an aircraft mechanic which was good for me. Kept my family fed for 39 years so really no regrets
Persuded
Pursued @@johnnorton7817
Ya'll, I appreciate the insight and advice from two good guys.
Great stuff. Much of what you are alluding to is what we call leadership in the fire service.
Hi im eldberg from Philippines and also an electrician i like your conversation too many good advice. That is true if you make yourself valuable in your workplace they will find you. Master your craft don't chase money, if you master your craft money will find you..
thanks a lot
Do you have any videos of the Electrical trade vs other trades such as HVAC or plumbing? Maybe the reasons you chose to go with being an electrician? I am trying to make a decision between HVAC and electrician. Love the content!
Do Both. HVAC ...you will make more money. But harder work, and different knowledge. But being a LICENSED electrician to go along with it means you can do your own wiring.
I am so thankful that you guys discussed rates. It's unbelievable what some customers think or even some electricians!
I'm 30 years old and just finishing my first year as an apprentice, and hearing what I did in this video really just drove me further into this career path. Love your content man - keep doing what you're doing.
Not sure how you feel about an interview with a new apprentice, but coming from the "newer" generation of electricians coming up, there are are is so much I would like to bounce off you and learn from you and others in the industry. Lemme know what you think
I'm in my 3rd month of my apprenticeship. And all I been doing for the past 2 weeks is installing pre-fabricated pipes on a scissors lift at a data base jobsite that construction workers are building from the scratch. And all I gotta say is thank the Lord for pre fabricated pipes. Don't have to go through the trouble of bending all those pipes myself
Bro you’re not learning shit wtf, my bro is having the same prob.
Started my electrical career in the navy as a construction electrician. Got out after 5 years and thought I would have it made . It was not easy . I tried the union first but you needed to know somebody . Struggled to find work in Jersey and moved to socal and got a job roping apartments for $7 an hour in the late 80s . That company went bankrupt but I got laid off before that and got paid . Became a gypsy going from job to job . No real mentors so you figure it out yourself . Finally figured out Davis bacon jobs is where the money was going from $10 to $25 . A living wage at the time but still it was a gypsy lifestyle . Job ends go to the next contractor . Working was politics in my day if you did not play you were pushed out . I was laid off once and the guy said your to happy your up to something as I bailed him out on many thing . That could have been a inferiority complex . What changed for me was starting my own electrical business . No politics except some customers trying to work your price down but you figure out those people pretty quick and don't bother with them . Now some get on with good companies and spend a career with them . That wasn't in my cards . No benefits except maybe a turkey for Thanksgiving . Today it appears to me opportunity is so much better . People use to call me for work all the time . Nothing for the last decade .
Loved this. Wished I was there to contribute but later realized I agreed with everything I talked about! Looking forward to more of these!!!
I like the fact that you are very honest and always open to share your knowledge. I've met some guys who wouldn't teach you how to do something or just hide information from you, as if they wanted you to stay ignorant all the time.
Thanks my friend! I’ve met people like that too. It’s an insecurity with them. They don’t feel like they’re good enough and they’re afraid you’ll pass them up. Very small minded way of existing but I understand it.
@@ElectricianU Yeah! That's right, you put it perfectly into words! Must be great to work with or for people like you guys.
I worked as a Union Electrician for 35 years. I have a comfortable retirement with pension and health benefits for life. Everywhere I worked, the Union pay was better than non-union. Given that, wouldn't it be better to be Union than non Union ? When we worked overtime we were handsomely paid. You may think different, but I would say Union tradesmen are better trained, on average. I spent 4 years of going to night school for 3 hours, twice a week for my Apprenticeship.. That, while working 40hrs a week. Of course, there are many great trade schools out there as well as many skilled non union Electricians. But given the benefits of being a Union member always outweighed the downside of paying dues. IMHO
Really liked this conversation, love this trade. Thanks for the good content.
I'm just lovin this whole conversation in every which way it goes!!!
Agreed. Stop talking each other down and work as a team with positive enforcement.
Dude! Great show. Respect on the feedback and finding ways for constructive feedback with the positive. Your guys mentorship are a dream of mine. Can't wait to dive into this trade and learn, learn, learn and learn. Find mine mentor grow and teach those coming up behind me. Thank you for showing such professionalism and collaboration. Made RESPECT!!! 🙏
Thanks! You’re the man, keep up the good work, and may God bless you and keep you safe out there 🙏💯
so many people like myself need to learn with hands on experience because the mistakes that we make while learning solidify the right techniques in our minds. hands on learning is so under rated and too many people want their new employees to have text book knowledge when text book knowledge only goes so far. physical practices is far more important and encourages creative thinking and problem solving. businesses need to lean into the journeyman method of training.
We used to take pride in our trades! I really like this sit and talk about what we do.. I’m coming from maintenance millwrite point of view, I love my job I take pride in everything I do my best to make sure my name is associated with good solid work! If the trades could be a brotherhood In a whole would be amazing!! Could you imagine the knowledge we could pass Amongst ourselves? Anyway good job bud! Keep it up!
I think your channel is amazing and Im glad it exists. Im going to watch every video.
Service work taught me the most, I feel all electricians should have to go through service work to become well rounded electricians
Are you a plumbtrician?
Great channel and great conversation, Thanks
I love it... YOU CALLED ME, I DON'T NEED YOU. I CAN JUST HOP IN THE VAN AND HEAD OUT TO ANOTHER CALL! I liked the older dude. Talk about keeping things real dude was on point. I never understood why rich people have to go out of their way to treat tradesmen like less than dirt. If tradesmen do jobs in my home do a great job I give them a tip. I give them cold bottled water. Tradesman are still guests in my home who must be treated well. I marvel at how easy they make their craft look!
The IEC in my area is turning out a lot of four year apprentice who can’t pass a test. I know many IEC graduates that are having to go attend a “No Pass/No Pay” clinic to get their cards.
Jarrett the Journeyman is it bad instructors or bad students,either way not looking good for the trade
Pete Carroll since I posted this response, I have become a 4th year IEC instructor. I decided to be a solution to this problem since the trade has been so good to me. I don’t know if I can make a difference but I am going to give it my all.
In 1976 when I was in fourth grade I would watch the town houses being built next to me from surveying the land to people moving in watching all the people and helping them I was there because I didn’t like copper being wasted and thrown out so I was picking up all the copper and taking it home that they gave meThis reminds me of all the fun walking through the The buildings how fun it was I was in the printing industry and then I wasDriving is a carrier courier driver now I mostly look for Scrap Metal
Great discussion. Keep it up. Promote the trade all you can.
I’m an instructor and I miss the field often. Just miss how fast the time flies when ur doing projects.
Great video. I supported petro chem, manufacturing and mining for conductor needs 24/7/366.
Great vid Dustin! I love the talk n topics you guys touched on. Just getting my feet wet with the elec trade, and want to be a great knowledgeable electrician one day, just trying to figure out how to change from a general contractor to one & at 37yrs old -up here in boston. Lookin forward to new videos. Thank you! -Evan
I’m a second-year apprentice with the IBEW. I want to let you know that I really appreciate your channel. The topics you post I find to be very helpful and informative. Currently I’m mostly working in an industrial setting and I appreciate your point of view. Keep up the good work!!! I totally agree with you we do need more craftsman doing RUclips channels like this. Great job dude!
Tyrus Holmes how long did it take you to start the actual apprenticeship program ?
N.B.A your application is good for one year. Apply closer to the cut off time which I believe is May. You’re put on a list of the top candidates and be aware you can slip in your ranking . They normally select 15 candidates. Good luck !
@@Tholmes8913 my Local took 120 first years for 2019 and they already have 50 for 2020. It all depends on the local union and demand for more guys. I'm a 4th year that had to wait 3 years to get in due to work being slow. It's all about demand.
iKilligan whoa!!! I’m in Delaware LU 313 we’re kind of small. Nice to know the Union is still growing 👍
Im biased. clicked like the moment the video loaded.
It's already hard enough to get a job as an apprentice electrician because most companies want people with experience and most schools don't provide that, they only provide the education but not the hands on training.
I've always wanted to get into electrical but I've had no idea where to start.
Have to go to school. Learn the NEC. Be willing to take a lot of crap while a helper. It sucks being a gopper but we all had to go thru it. Best trade.
My FAVORITE episode!
There is a big difference. I have worked both. Union and non union . In the union you have so many different opportunities and do so many different types of electrical because you have so many different companies to learn from.
That's my teacher !! The 🐐
Thank you for making this trench a hell of alot more fun, Truly inspiring video.
I'm having trouble landing an apprenticeship in the LA area, everyone I call wants Atleast 2 years experience.
Lie.
Sunday Funday I know same in colorado
Good luck man, ask if you can start off just doing simple labor,running material , just to prove your work ethics, it might just get you in
I've had a similar experience in my area, but word around the apprenticeship is that tons of more experienced guys have been changing companies lately, and now i'm totally swamped with job offers. Be persistent and find a company that is a good fit for you. It should all work out, everyone needs people of all levels.
You may want to try with IBEW Local 11, you can check out laett.com or org, and apply
Great discussion, I love your videos. I've been taking HVAC classes in Southern California, but in doing so kind of realised that electrical work is something I'm passionate about and that being an electrician is what I really want to do with my life. I don't want to stay in California though, would you be able to answer questions/do a video about journeyman reciprocity between states? I don't want to start working towards becoming a journeyman here if I won't be able to take it with me if/when I leave the state. Thanks!
A lot of times when you move states you're employer will be understanding about recertifying as long as you are currently certified
I want to have the kind of drive that you have I love electrical work. I have been in the electrical trade for over 15 years but I still have not made a difference . I haven't even got a license there is just so much to learn and I have learning disabilities. Even with those I have learned a lot I just wish I could be as good as you I just don't know how to make myself better at it . I love watching videos and learning more about it I just can't keep it all in my head.
Cheap labor isn’t skilled. Skilled labor isn’t cheap
I always heard " You can have it fast, cheap or good. But you can't have all three."
I understand what you guys meant about how the pay has and is decreasing by under bidding jobs to bet the competition. But i just cant get over the fact that not much can get done on site without electricity. I feel like the trade as a whole should deffinatly get paid more.
I work alone wiring new homes or reno's but when i see someone down in the gutter ,i ask him if he wants to help me for a day..end of the day i pay that person from my own money
Where do you live
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Excellent video contents and very well worth the time listening to two wisemen constructive discussion. Indeed learning never stopped, and good quality work plus customer satisfaction is always great satisfying experience. Holding an FCC Commercial Radiotelephone License, GMDSS Radio Operator/ Maintainer Lic., with Ship Radar Endorsement, Extra Class Amateur Radio License, but my passion about electricity and electrician work is always very gratifying. Great educational vids and I always enjoy listening to them.
it's just something I've noticed with the younger generation. I like to learn about anything and everything. I went and got a high school 30 calculus credit when I decided I wanted to join the trade (although use it rarely) and originally I'd planned to get a psych degree but really wanted to be an electrician. I've taken 3 of the 4 levels of schooling and there's no ambition in our classrooms. 8 out of 10 teachers are washed up and stale. But the other guys would always be surprised or joke when they'd find out I was studying. And I'm just like, it's actually really super interesting and like the guy says you definitely don't learn as much with all the pre fab, and microprocessors and the like. Take pride in your work and learning. Appreciate that your job can actually be fun, just be safe. And that you can make a decent wage too. Work smarter not harder.
PS: Should do more of these. Bring in teachers too? I think that would be awesome
The intro music in this one is so much better.
This one needs to be done again please!
I say you make the Double D show a regular staple to your channel. I'd love to see a segment discussing electrical accidents and how they could have been avoided. My two cents. Excellent job!
Don was mistaken when speaking about the union non-union saying "you work for company a and i work for company b". In the union you don't work for the company, you work for the union.
I worked 50 years as a sparky but never in the electrical union. Best thing about unions when the place you are working for closes up ( happened to me 3.times ) you still maitain benefits if you get picked up on another job. Same thing with 401K's. Loose u job & have to wait up to a year before new company matches your contribution.
What is great conversation. Very relevent and insightful.