I think if they really do go back and give a ton of the cards the dual class typing that could shake up the meta almost as much as a new class. Lotta new synergies!
It has already happened with Imps. As vulgar homonculus, tagged only as demon, will show up if you search "imp" without the card actually containing "imp" anywhere.
Btw “after your last turn” counts your opponents turn and then your current turn. So if you kill stuff off on your turn, then the effects would activate
@@zuralani1 then his comment on Scourge Reaver doesnt make sense. It would help enable indead decks with its "Battlecry: Die". Perhaps a small oversight on Regis's behalf. He has a lot to pay attention to, to be fair.
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 I believe he means that the Undead synergy won't trigger if you play say the rager, it dies and then you play the 3 mana or 2 mana Undead synergy card on the same turn, the effect won't trigger but if the opponent kills off the reborn rager or it survives and you trade it off yourself that turn and then play the Undead synergy card the effect would trigger. In more simple terms I believe that the Undead synergy effects won't trigger if an undead you played that turn dies and the undead has to die either on the opponents turn or it has to survive that turn and then die to trigger the effects.
@@ultimateprogamer5843 with the current wording, "if an undead dies after your last turn", it would cover your opponent's turn and your current turn. So if they die the same turn, that would proc the effect. Just like how Deathknight hero power should help enable that condition.
The thing about Theron is I can DEFINITELY imagine him being put in Big Druid. They’ll be playing ramp into Vanndar and Brann into Theron for some MASSIVE minions that’ll be a pain for enemies to get rid of without hard removal
it just feels like such a win-more condition, if you’re already at the point where you get to play out onyxia, denathrius, jailer, etc. and you get your value off that, those extra stats really aren’t gonna make a huge difference between winning and losing. plus, big druid only really plays 3 minions with good stats-not like your insatiable devourer getting +4/+4 makes it a hugely better card.
@@ConnahGriffin Maybe, but if Seedsman and Brann are the only “problematic” cards that hinder the deck, that doesn’t seem like it’ll stop Druid from still poppin off with an early Theron
I'm thinking of manathirst differently than you are. I think manathirst is good because it keeps low cost lower value cards more relevant if you draw them late game. I think manathirst cards aren't meant to just stay in your hand until you hit the manathirst limit. Thanks for the review, keep up the great content.
I really like the rager for setting up some of those undead died after your last turn cards. It gets played, dies (also nice little add for corpses in death knight) left on board with 1 health. opponent either kills it, setting up other cards, or they don't, which leaves a 5 shot at face or minion, and minion shot kills it, setting up cards.
It's definitely exciting to see a rager being possibly viable. If Blood Death Knights have a corpse generation problem this might be a nice undead for them.
I thought of corpse explosion as reverse defile Defile keeps damaging minions when they die Corpse explosions keeps damaging minions then they don’t die
@@noahsharp848 bladestorm doesn't repeat and use a generated resource every time.... I don't think the "deal 1 to everything" is the difficult part to explain to people lol
As another commenter pointed out about Scourge Rager, any way of cheating it into play is going to make it a bit of a monster. But even barring that, it doesn't seem bad played straight up in a swarmy Undead deck. You mentioned that the initial Battlecry death wouldn't trigger your Undead effects next turn. However, it would leave behind a 5/1; a minion that the opponent REALLY doesn't want to leave on the board in the early turns and that is very easy for you to trade off. And if they don't kill it AND don't develop any minion for you to trade into, you get to punch an opponent who is staying off the board on turn 3/4 in the face for 5. Imagine coining Scourge Rager on 2 in a Shaman deck running Unliving Champion. That's a TON of friction that you're making your opponent figure out. It's also worth noting that on later turns, it can be used to activate Undead synergies from hand that turn, even if your opponent has an empty board (which differs from the the DK hero power). Also also, it's 2 corpses for DK for 3, which is likely not insignificant. Overall, I don't expect it to be a standout card at all in any deck, but I think Scourge Rager might actually make the cut here and there.
@@brandonhixson7753 I think he's talking about the old Barnabus quest. Still a meme, but makes me happy because I have a golden copy sitting in my collection since ungoro
I like the sunwell for control warrior, it often struggles to just play tempo and this helps as well as warrior does not have good generation, so it has been pretty good there. Been having fun with it in odd warrior.
I think there are quite a few decks that could use Theron. Both control decks with a lot of minions such as Paladin and obviously Shaman, but also decks like Implock or Mech Paladin that can reload their hand and wrestle back the board.
Why implock? I mean, imps have low stats, and usually, implock, at least against me, win or loses at turn 8 or 9 max, sometimes 5 or 6, and the deck is very tempo heavy, so... I don't think it's good in the deck
Depending on the vibes, death knight hero power -> invincible procs could be a LOT of smorc It's expensive, but I can imagine a burn lich king deck doing quite well even in a renethal world
I feel like Scourge Rager basically has the same gameplan as injured blademaster where the goal is to cheat it into play without setting off the battlecry or potentially just healing it. If there's a somewhat reasonable way of cheating it into play getting a 5/4 reborn is pretty nice. It also probably plays pretty well with resurrection effects. It might take too much enabling but I wouldn't entirely count it out.
Street sweeper is a really important card for decks that want to tutor for specific spells or run no spells at all, a board clear tied to a minion means that something like a big spell mage can run it as another anti-aggro tech.
Wonder how Liadrin will work with Dun Baldar Bunker. If she gives them the rush and shield when they go down but before the bunker buffs them. Not to mention she will be crazy once she gets some attack buffs herself!
Scourge rager is going to be nuts in rez priest. 5/4 reborns that always make it into the rez pool and come back without the battlecry on mass is actually kind of terrifying, not the most terrifying, but definitely something to consider in the early game tempo versions of the deck.
Be extra terrifying with obelisk, You trade the 5/4 you ressed, then hero power and have an 8/7 on board. Also by just playing it, you end up with heal fodder to activate quest
I think arcane bolt might be part of a critical mass of burn spells at some point for an otk deck, 1 mana deal 3 after turn 8 seems to fit this fairly conveniently
I think the manathirst keyword would be a lot more interesting if it required you to have X amount of unused mana before playing the card, rather than just X amount of mana crystals. Because right now the way it seems to work it's just a boost to cards after turn X (Manathirst (6) is upgraded permanently once you get to turn 6). But the way I proposed would mean that you have to play the manathirst card first. It still wouldn't use your mana, but to get the benefit of Manathirst (6) you'd need 6 or more full mana crystals when you play the card (counting the ones spent on the card). So if you're on turn 6 and you play a 4 mana card, you couldn't get the benefit of the Manathirst (6) card, because you only have 2 unused mana crystals at that time. So it would alter the order you play cards, which would lead to more interesting decisions than just "wait until turn 6 then this card becomes good."
Arcane defenders looks like a card that should have existed in classic hearthstone. It's something that I'd have thought Medivh or someone would have done
war golem and bonemare making their grand return !!! jokes aside im really hyped up for this expansion, keep up the great content, hearthstone and snap too
Truly evil invincible combo for druid: 2x hedge maze played any turn 1 cheap undead Invincible comes down, buffs cheap undead, pop deathrattle twice from mazes for +15/15. Or worse, add Brann to the mix, though that will need guff. If there are any undeads that has charge or cannot be targetted by spells... we got a truly evil statstick on our hand.
I'm excited for death Knight, blood death Knight specifically looks like it'll be the exact kind of control warrior style gameplay with more interesting flavour
To hopefully help with the relive the confusion on the "Friendly Undead died after your last turn" effects here is a simple explanation of how I believe it works. The Undead synergy effects won't trigger if an undead you played/summoned that turn dies. The undead has to die either on the opponents turn or it has to survive and then you trade it so that it dies on a later turn then it would trigger the effects.
I wonder if we will get a Ranger General Sylvanas card. On the one hand we JUST got a 2nd Sylvanas, so it'd be strange to get a 3rd so soon. On the other hand, Sylvanas was a major foe when Arthas was going to the Sunwell. The whole reason she became a banshee was because of how much of an obstacle she was to Arthas, so it would be weird to NOT include her in an expansion focused on his assault on the Sunwell.
I think the rager has a lot of potential, he can be use to ensure the new cards that need a undead to die las turn to trigger the effect can be activated, and also its a 2 corpse card for DK. Also it may be obvious but Invincible can be really good in DK since most of his cards are Undead and if they give DK a card that can give a minion reborn it could be many stats and may even be use in a Midrange Profane DK.
Emeriss is possibly my favourite card ever so Lorthemar is like a dream come true. I played enough Emeriss to know it's probably not a good card, but doesn't mean I can't have fun with it.
I think the wording "after your last turn" is an extension of KotF's "during your opponent's turn", because most of the cards with the second wording would be really bad if the opponent completely ignored them (you got no bonus on your second turn, after playing them, while now you do with the new wording)
I mean if you are just after plain stats yes. But in the current meta, and by the looks of it the future meta, a minion death can be more valuable than a minion on board. Being able to play this to instantly gain 1 infuse can be nice.
19:29 I didn't think of this until now after watching several peoples opinions on the revealed cards. I'm wondering if Arcane Bolt's Manathirst is at 8 is due to mage getting some synergy to lower or ignore the manathirst value for cards they play. I don't play HS at current but I could very well see this as a mechanics specific to a class like Mage. Overall, these cards look pretty interesting.
33:23 I really like the idea behind the Bone Flinger, I have a sneaking suspicion this card may be a sleeper. Overall it does seem a little weak when thought about straight away. However, combined with other undead with similar Battle cries this can be used pretty effectively even if your undead attacks and is left alive, effectively allowing you to chain together undead battle cries several turns in a row if needed. Also, using this card to trigger death rattles or Reborn could see some hidden strength. Lastly, this is a cheap minion you could use to kill off something on your board to cash in a corpse you may need for other cards. For example this card could be used in combination with Corpse Explosion to gain an extra corpse mid animation of the spell so it can repeat an extra time. Pretty interesting to me, now only have to wait and see what other cards and variables could use this card or similar effects.
Corpse explosion should refill if you destroy your own minions with it. Something you didn’t consider and if it works like that would make it a better card.
Theron works well in a paladin deck with Vandar Stormpike and Order in the court where Theron is the highest cost card in the deck and the other minions have stats from 5 to 7. Is the only way i see this working, maybe adding the Jailer in the deck aswell, but other thn that, i dont realy know how this could work in your favour earlier thn this.
A decent invincible idea is to put him in a Hunter deck with Shaw and use sir Finley to get a different hero power and get the dk hero power and then Suicide invincible after hero power use and then you can launch a 16 16 right at face
Imagine a 4 mana sticky undead minion they can't kill on turn 4, then turn 5 they use death weaver aura, trade it in, undead champion, their board is now 5 3/2's on turn 5. 15/10 of stats.
Regis is down on Invincible because it might be hard to land the buffs. But it is worth noting that the same was said about Bonemare and that card ended up being bananas in Keleseth Rogue. It's probably an include in any unholy Death Knight deck.
Lor'themar Theron: 7 mana do nothing Invincible: if there's an Undead Midrange deck probably sees play, most likely candidates are either a DK deck or Making Mummies Paladin. Sunwell: random spells are bad Silverfury Stalwart: pack filler probably slaps in arena Embers of Strength: good in Bolster warrior. 2 mana for 1/2s is already proven to be pretty good in go-wide. Unloving Champion: if Undead shaman is a thing it might see play, the conditional seems only marginally better then elemental's Deathweaver Aura: slow and win-more will heavily rely on how good early undead plays are, and if fighting for board is actually meaningful. Blood Matriarch Liadrin EVEN PALADIN BAEBY For Quel'Thalas: even paladin baeby? Arcane Defenders: it costs 8 mana, it's not do nothing, but you're gonna die before you play it Arcane Bolt: it's arcane shot with upside, I'd like to see a non-secret burn mage, so I like that it exists. Pack filler for now. Arcane Quiver: 2 mana draw a card deal one damage. It's bad without other arcane tribal cards. What makes Thrive in the Shadows good is that priest spells either clear the board or win the game. And priest cares a lot about casting shadow spells. So hunter needs those same conditions. Like if hunter had an arcane mindblast this card is nuts, but it doesn't so it's not. Neeunian Flyer: pack filler Deal with a Devil: 5 mana do nothing for the class that doesn't exist. Cool I'm just not gonna rate DK cards, seems kind of impossible without knowing the full thing. They're gonna need to be strong to see play, and I also just don't know what the upgraded hero power is, so I can't evaluate whether or not Odd DK is even something appealing. Even DK definitely seems like something to watch out for tho. Sunfury Cleric: better Happy Ghoul, Silvermoon Sentinal: pack filler Bone flinger: not even if Undead decks are real. Even DK tho? Although this would be your turn 3 play... Eh... Probably not even there Street Sweeper: bad Dustbreaker. Scourge Rager: Meme, BUT Making Mummies paladin might play it. Especially if there's some infuse at the top end, it will probably be the worst reborn card in the deck though.
I think the hunter discover a spell will go way better in a deck that’s just looking for one specific spell in a minion heavy deck. What deck that is I don’t know right now, but I’ll be keeping my eye on this card for future use.
27:17 -- Was the wording changed on healing effects? Vampiric Blood doesn't say restore 5 health. It says "Give your hero +5 Health." Does that let you go over your maximum?
Corpse Explosion is essentially a 5 mana Defile right? Because as long as you have 1 corpse in stock and a 1 health minion it should continue the cycle, because I think you'd get the corpse from your minion dying before it checks if you have a corpse to repeat the effect.
Imagine Invincible in an undead hunter deck, using the kennels to give it rush. One undead on board getting +10/+10 and double taunt, then the next turn getting an additional +5/+5.
Theron: Emeris is like 9 or 10 mana? 7 mana is much more reasonable. But imagine Theron Brann + with old school cthun. 10 mana combo, does very little, but possible with Druid? Just for meme and giggles. Invincible: If it can buff itself, it will be pretty ok, otherwise, questionable. Sunwell: 5 mana draw 5? Pretty awful, but might save your life off of discover. Maybeeeeeeee. Definitely generate fireball for your opponent for lethal though. Silver Stalwart: Hidden sleeper in control? but yea, at 5 mana would be good, at six seems honest and fair and not very viable in HS current meta. Unliving champion: Either snap nerf or the vanguard of things to come: aggro undead totem shaman
I think the new rager might get some decent play if it can be cheated out and not activate the battlecry because then you basically have a 5/4 with reborn that has a tribe that may be relevant
You missed the most important synergy for Liadrin currently, which is dun baldar's bridge, she is absolutely absurd after the card, since all the minions summoned get +2/+2 rush and divine shield, and makes the timeframe of threat of bridge one turn faster, where often it takes 2 turns for your stats to start mattering since they're slow outside of a few specific minions, or makes the board even harder to clear. Outside of that it slots well into those decks, since they often fall behind in the early game and struggle to kill minions without having a board already, allowing you to finish if the minions that value traded and clean out the threat that you normally couldn't(like a peasant). Liadrin is great and should bring up the winrate of those middling paladin decks that run bridge.
How does the order work on her effect with the Bridge? If she checks before the Bridge buff is applied that's really strong, but otherwise it's still pretty hard to get those buffs to apply.
@@masterplusmargarita Minions come into play then get buffed by bridge, which is why the silver hand recruits get buffed before biggun. So it should come into play, have the effects check if they are applied, and then gain the stats into the shield and rush. This should also work with hobgoblin. The checking that, it worked so she should buff, and actually hobgoblin buffed first, meaning minions should have priority over locations. Edit: Hobgoblin has the text "whenever" not after, need to go find something else
Instead of writing out the tribe(s) they should use symbols to represent the tribe. Then when a player hovers over the symbol it says what tribe the symbols represents. I think it would be a cleaner look.
I stepped away from HS over a year ago, is it in a good state to return to? Tbh, if probably have to make a new account because I don't remember my old login, and I'm sure most of, if not all, my cards would be wild by now. Just hesitant about returning. I miss playing CCGs lol
Yeah the lor'themar's effect is good and all but i dont know i think he needs to be one less mana but 7 attack is too much i would drop it by 1 and he seems perfectly balanced
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I think if they really do go back and give a ton of the cards the dual class typing that could shake up the meta almost as much as a new class. Lotta new synergies!
It has already happened with Imps.
As vulgar homonculus, tagged only as demon, will show up if you search "imp" without the card actually containing "imp" anywhere.
I can't wait to play the Scourge Rager with Shudderwock.
or lor'themar
Or Brann
What was Blizzard thinking!? With Lorthemar, Ice Rager could have 4 health!
Or macaw in shaman
I think it's clever that Invincible is neutral, since in WoW, any class could get him off the Lich King.
That was my thought as well.
No shit, it's a mount.
@@dibla22 well, not all mounts where available to all classes, so not sure why you are like that?
@@Hapsasa I'm struggling to think of any droppable mount that was ever class specific.
Can you enlighten us?
@@Almighty-Zunde to be fair, this was posted over 50 years ago, times likely changed since :p
Btw “after your last turn” counts your opponents turn and then your current turn. So if you kill stuff off on your turn, then the effects would activate
Yup, he said that
@@zuralani1 then his comment on Scourge Reaver doesnt make sense. It would help enable indead decks with its "Battlecry: Die". Perhaps a small oversight on Regis's behalf. He has a lot to pay attention to, to be fair.
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 Yes, but you have to play it and the other card. I think he meant if you drop it on 3 it wont trigger effects for turn 4
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 I believe he means that the Undead synergy won't trigger if you play say the rager, it dies and then you play the 3 mana or 2 mana Undead synergy card on the same turn, the effect won't trigger but if the opponent kills off the reborn rager or it survives and you trade it off yourself that turn and then play the Undead synergy card the effect would trigger.
In more simple terms I believe that the Undead synergy effects won't trigger if an undead you played that turn dies and the undead has to die either on the opponents turn or it has to survive that turn and then die to trigger the effects.
@@ultimateprogamer5843 with the current wording, "if an undead dies after your last turn", it would cover your opponent's turn and your current turn. So if they die the same turn, that would proc the effect. Just like how Deathknight hero power should help enable that condition.
The thing about Theron is I can DEFINITELY imagine him being put in Big Druid. They’ll be playing ramp into Vanndar and Brann into Theron for some MASSIVE minions that’ll be a pain for enemies to get rid of without hard removal
Vanndar and Brann? Doesn't that reduce the effectiveness of Vandar by a lot since Brann costs 3 and would disable him unless both are already drawn?
Personally I just can't wait for the Mark video that has him in shudder shamen to make a stonetusk boar hit the integer overflow.
it just feels like such a win-more condition, if you’re already at the point where you get to play out onyxia, denathrius, jailer, etc. and you get your value off that, those extra stats really aren’t gonna make a huge difference between winning and losing. plus, big druid only really plays 3 minions with good stats-not like your insatiable devourer getting +4/+4 makes it a hugely better card.
@@ConnahGriffin Maybe, but if Seedsman and Brann are the only “problematic” cards that hinder the deck, that doesn’t seem like it’ll stop Druid from still poppin off with an early Theron
I was thinking this with my paladin vanndar deck with that 3 mana draw your lowest cost card spell.
I love the rager from a recruit standpoint. Pulling a sticky 5/4 reborn body from a DrekThar would be amazing
I'm thinking of manathirst differently than you are. I think manathirst is good because it keeps low cost lower value cards more relevant if you draw them late game. I think manathirst cards aren't meant to just stay in your hand until you hit the manathirst limit. Thanks for the review, keep up the great content.
Exactly. It's not a COMPLETELY dead card when you draw it late game and are desperate for an answer
I really like the rager for setting up some of those undead died after your last turn cards. It gets played, dies (also nice little add for corpses in death knight) left on board with 1 health. opponent either kills it, setting up other cards, or they don't, which leaves a 5 shot at face or minion, and minion shot kills it, setting up cards.
It's definitely exciting to see a rager being possibly viable. If Blood Death Knights have a corpse generation problem this might be a nice undead for them.
its also neutral that can be cheated out by many cards in wild, so i guess in standard its ok but in wild this has crazy plays
My shudderwock-deck is gonna be insane with that card
Could also be used as Injured Battlemaster
I think people are forgetting that Invincible can be used in res priest. Cause everyone just loves that archetype.
With regards to the "After your last turn" condition - Also works to just summon an undead and kill it the same turn
I think the best comparison for Corpse Explosion would be Hagatha's Scheme and that saw quite a lot of play.
I could be wrong but i think the ol' claws and jaws was the only top deck that ran it
I thought of corpse explosion as reverse defile
Defile keeps damaging minions when they die
Corpse explosions keeps damaging minions then they don’t die
If you play it with patron on board it might repeat infinite (until it's canceled) because the patrons give you new corpses.
is bladestorm not a perfect example for it...?
@@noahsharp848 bladestorm doesn't repeat and use a generated resource every time.... I don't think the "deal 1 to everything" is the difficult part to explain to people lol
Vaandaar + Lor'themar in DH with the "draw lowest cost minions" could be a play.
As another commenter pointed out about Scourge Rager, any way of cheating it into play is going to make it a bit of a monster.
But even barring that, it doesn't seem bad played straight up in a swarmy Undead deck. You mentioned that the initial Battlecry death wouldn't trigger your Undead effects next turn. However, it would leave behind a 5/1; a minion that the opponent REALLY doesn't want to leave on the board in the early turns and that is very easy for you to trade off. And if they don't kill it AND don't develop any minion for you to trade into, you get to punch an opponent who is staying off the board on turn 3/4 in the face for 5. Imagine coining Scourge Rager on 2 in a Shaman deck running Unliving Champion. That's a TON of friction that you're making your opponent figure out.
It's also worth noting that on later turns, it can be used to activate Undead synergies from hand that turn, even if your opponent has an empty board (which differs from the the DK hero power).
Also also, it's 2 corpses for DK for 3, which is likely not insignificant.
Overall, I don't expect it to be a standout card at all in any deck, but I think Scourge Rager might actually make the cut here and there.
Scourge Rager will be fun in Quest Druid. It's an easy +2 to the quest progression.
Isn't the druid quest based on gaining attack?
@@brandonhixson7753 I think he's talking about the old Barnabus quest. Still a meme, but makes me happy because I have a golden copy sitting in my collection since ungoro
@@brandonhixson7753 The questline is, however, I was talking about the old quest, just as the next commenter said.
I like the sunwell for control warrior, it often struggles to just play tempo and this helps as well as warrior does not have good generation, so it has been pretty good there. Been having fun with it in odd warrior.
Silverfury stalwart could be really good in duels with the taunt and rush synergy's
I wonder how the double minion types will work with zombeasts (Deathstalker Rexxar).
In 2018 hearthstone I would say only "pure" beasts would work. In 2023 hearthstone it will definitely work with dual types, if that makes sense
@@nannerpants7 I meant what would happen if you end up with a combination of 3 types.
I wonder if Invincible would be decent in Druid with the location, given that Druid was announced as a Scourge class and has undead minions
I think there are quite a few decks that could use Theron. Both control decks with a lot of minions such as Paladin and obviously Shaman, but also decks like Implock or Mech Paladin that can reload their hand and wrestle back the board.
Why implock? I mean, imps have low stats, and usually, implock, at least against me, win or loses at turn 8 or 9 max, sometimes 5 or 6, and the deck is very tempo heavy, so... I don't think it's good in the deck
Scourge rager has the best battlecry ever
I want to see Lor'themar in a duels run where you try to get the treasure that puts 3-mana copies of cards into your deck.
Depending on the vibes, death knight hero power -> invincible procs could be a LOT of smorc
It's expensive, but I can imagine a burn lich king deck doing quite well even in a renethal world
can't your opponent just dunk on invincible on their turn
I feel like Scourge Rager basically has the same gameplan as injured blademaster where the goal is to cheat it into play without setting off the battlecry or potentially just healing it. If there's a somewhat reasonable way of cheating it into play getting a 5/4 reborn is pretty nice. It also probably plays pretty well with resurrection effects. It might take too much enabling but I wouldn't entirely count it out.
i loveeeee ur card reviews. the way u analyze cards is so fun to listen to!
the rager is so good in evolve shaman, i mean, getting it from some random evolve, not actually adding it in your deck
Street sweeper is a really important card for decks that want to tutor for specific spells or run no spells at all, a board clear tied to a minion means that something like a big spell mage can run it as another anti-aggro tech.
Wonder how Liadrin will work with Dun Baldar Bunker. If she gives them the rush and shield when they go down but before the bunker buffs them. Not to mention she will be crazy once she gets some attack buffs herself!
Scourge rager is going to be nuts in rez priest. 5/4 reborns that always make it into the rez pool and come back without the battlecry on mass is actually kind of terrifying, not the most terrifying, but definitely something to consider in the early game tempo versions of the deck.
Be extra terrifying with obelisk,
You trade the 5/4 you ressed, then hero power and have an 8/7 on board.
Also by just playing it, you end up with heal fodder to activate quest
I think corpse explosion works as long as there is ANY minion alive so it is a full board clear, as long as you have enough corpses
Lor'themar followed by macaw (and maybe even brann) seems pretty crazy
Lor'themar is going to be absolutely bananas for goofy combo otk decks. I'm totally on board for the zillion videos mark is going to make with him.
Buff minions, shoot them into villains' faces.
"I like to imagine he's on an ice skate." Lol, now I will always imagine him skating around the ice down there.
I think arcane bolt might be part of a critical mass of burn spells at some point for an otk deck, 1 mana deal 3 after turn 8 seems to fit this fairly conveniently
I think the manathirst keyword would be a lot more interesting if it required you to have X amount of unused mana before playing the card, rather than just X amount of mana crystals. Because right now the way it seems to work it's just a boost to cards after turn X (Manathirst (6) is upgraded permanently once you get to turn 6). But the way I proposed would mean that you have to play the manathirst card first. It still wouldn't use your mana, but to get the benefit of Manathirst (6) you'd need 6 or more full mana crystals when you play the card (counting the ones spent on the card). So if you're on turn 6 and you play a 4 mana card, you couldn't get the benefit of the Manathirst (6) card, because you only have 2 unused mana crystals at that time. So it would alter the order you play cards, which would lead to more interesting decisions than just "wait until turn 6 then this card becomes good."
Arcane defenders looks like a card that should have existed in classic hearthstone. It's something that I'd have thought Medivh or someone would have done
war golem and bonemare making their grand return !!! jokes aside im really hyped up for this expansion, keep up the great content, hearthstone and snap too
Truly evil invincible combo for druid:
2x hedge maze played any turn
1 cheap undead
Invincible comes down, buffs cheap undead, pop deathrattle twice from mazes for +15/15.
Or worse, add Brann to the mix, though that will need guff. If there are any undeads that has charge or cannot be targetted by spells... we got a truly evil statstick on our hand.
I'm excited for death Knight, blood death Knight specifically looks like it'll be the exact kind of control warrior style gameplay with more interesting flavour
6:20 I guess that you could say that with The Sunwell you have a handfull of different ways to get your hand full😉
To hopefully help with the relive the confusion on the "Friendly Undead died after your last turn" effects here is a simple explanation of how I believe it works.
The Undead synergy effects won't trigger if an undead you played/summoned that turn dies. The undead has to die either on the opponents turn or it has to survive and then you trade it so that it dies on a later turn then it would trigger the effects.
I wonder if we will get a Ranger General Sylvanas card. On the one hand we JUST got a 2nd Sylvanas, so it'd be strange to get a 3rd so soon. On the other hand, Sylvanas was a major foe when Arthas was going to the Sunwell. The whole reason she became a banshee was because of how much of an obstacle she was to Arthas, so it would be weird to NOT include her in an expansion focused on his assault on the Sunwell.
We can finally have a 40/40 the darkness. truly peak hearthstone xD
So many Regis videos in one day what a fantastic day
Volatile skeles are probably undead, might open something for mage
I think the rager has a lot of potential, he can be use to ensure the new cards that need a undead to die las turn to trigger the effect can be activated, and also its a 2 corpse card for DK.
Also it may be obvious but Invincible can be really good in DK since most of his cards are Undead and if they give DK a card that can give a minion reborn it could be many stats and may even be use in a Midrange Profane DK.
Emeriss is possibly my favourite card ever so Lorthemar is like a dream come true. I played enough Emeriss to know it's probably not a good card, but doesn't mean I can't have fun with it.
Lor'thematr into the minion cannon for hunter could be a really funny otk
Spammy Arcanist is gonna be great this expansion.
I think the wording "after your last turn" is an extension of KotF's "during your opponent's turn", because most of the cards with the second wording would be really bad if the opponent completely ignored them (you got no bonus on your second turn, after playing them, while now you do with the new wording)
The rager is like a Witchwood Grizzley, you're meant to cheat it out somehow to avoid the battlecry.
I mean if you are just after plain stats yes.
But in the current meta, and by the looks of it the future meta, a minion death can be more valuable than a minion on board.
Being able to play this to instantly gain 1 infuse can be nice.
19:29 I didn't think of this until now after watching several peoples opinions on the revealed cards. I'm wondering if Arcane Bolt's Manathirst is at 8 is due to mage getting some synergy to lower or ignore the manathirst value for cards they play. I don't play HS at current but I could very well see this as a mechanics specific to a class like Mage. Overall, these cards look pretty interesting.
33:23 I really like the idea behind the Bone Flinger, I have a sneaking suspicion this card may be a sleeper. Overall it does seem a little weak when thought about straight away. However, combined with other undead with similar Battle cries this can be used pretty effectively even if your undead attacks and is left alive, effectively allowing you to chain together undead battle cries several turns in a row if needed. Also, using this card to trigger death rattles or Reborn could see some hidden strength. Lastly, this is a cheap minion you could use to kill off something on your board to cash in a corpse you may need for other cards. For example this card could be used in combination with Corpse Explosion to gain an extra corpse mid animation of the spell so it can repeat an extra time. Pretty interesting to me, now only have to wait and see what other cards and variables could use this card or similar effects.
Don't forgett about the Shudderwock synergy with the new rager 😜
Corpse explosion should refill if you destroy your own minions with it. Something you didn’t consider and if it works like that would make it a better card.
Bonemare: "Who are you?"
Invincible: "I'm you, but 3 times as strong"
Am I the only who doesn't look at the new cards until Regis releases a card review video!?
So fast with the updates! Keep it up!
Theron works well in a paladin deck with Vandar Stormpike and Order in the court where Theron is the highest cost card in the deck and the other minions have stats from 5 to 7. Is the only way i see this working, maybe adding the Jailer in the deck aswell, but other thn that, i dont realy know how this could work in your favour earlier thn this.
I can already see the invincible+ancient reflections plays for duels
HI, wild player here... Theron with battlecry/Shudderwock shaman is gonna be scary
A decent invincible idea is to put him in a Hunter deck with Shaw and use sir Finley to get a different hero power and get the dk hero power and then Suicide invincible after hero power use and then you can launch a 16 16 right at face
I wonder if Theron will see play with paladin using order in the court to maybe draw into the hero card then this as the two highest cost cards
Imagine a 4 mana sticky undead minion they can't kill on turn 4, then turn 5 they use death weaver aura, trade it in, undead champion, their board is now 5 3/2's on turn 5. 15/10 of stats.
all that just to get cleared for 3 mana
35:30 during your turn is after your last turn. It would just say during your opponents last turn if that was the case.
" Invincible " is freaking overpowered. Imagine playing druid, with the 3 mana resummoning beast cards, its just op.
MarkmckZ will probably do a x3 lorthemar video. Pulling out a 28/28 or a 50/60 minion
Regis is down on Invincible because it might be hard to land the buffs. But it is worth noting that the same was said about Bonemare and that card ended up being bananas in Keleseth Rogue. It's probably an include in any unholy Death Knight deck.
Lor'themar Theron: 7 mana do nothing
Invincible: if there's an Undead Midrange deck probably sees play, most likely candidates are either a DK deck or Making Mummies Paladin.
Sunwell: random spells are bad
Silverfury Stalwart: pack filler probably slaps in arena
Embers of Strength: good in Bolster warrior. 2 mana for 1/2s is already proven to be pretty good in go-wide.
Unloving Champion: if Undead shaman is a thing it might see play, the conditional seems only marginally better then elemental's
Deathweaver Aura: slow and win-more will heavily rely on how good early undead plays are, and if fighting for board is actually meaningful.
Blood Matriarch Liadrin EVEN PALADIN BAEBY
For Quel'Thalas: even paladin baeby?
Arcane Defenders: it costs 8 mana, it's not do nothing, but you're gonna die before you play it
Arcane Bolt: it's arcane shot with upside, I'd like to see a non-secret burn mage, so I like that it exists. Pack filler for now.
Arcane Quiver: 2 mana draw a card deal one damage. It's bad without other arcane tribal cards. What makes Thrive in the Shadows good is that priest spells either clear the board or win the game. And priest cares a lot about casting shadow spells. So hunter needs those same conditions. Like if hunter had an arcane mindblast this card is nuts, but it doesn't so it's not.
Neeunian Flyer: pack filler
Deal with a Devil: 5 mana do nothing for the class that doesn't exist. Cool
I'm just not gonna rate DK cards, seems kind of impossible without knowing the full thing. They're gonna need to be strong to see play, and I also just don't know what the upgraded hero power is, so I can't evaluate whether or not Odd DK is even something appealing. Even DK definitely seems like something to watch out for tho.
Sunfury Cleric: better Happy Ghoul,
Silvermoon Sentinal: pack filler
Bone flinger: not even if Undead decks are real. Even DK tho? Although this would be your turn 3 play... Eh... Probably not even there
Street Sweeper: bad Dustbreaker.
Scourge Rager: Meme, BUT Making Mummies paladin might play it. Especially if there's some infuse at the top end, it will probably be the worst reborn card in the deck though.
I think the hunter discover a spell will go way better in a deck that’s just looking for one specific spell in a minion heavy deck. What deck that is I don’t know right now, but I’ll be keeping my eye on this card for future use.
Even if Scourge rager isn't great when played, it's a pretty good evolve result.
Lor'Themar in druid is scary to me tbh. It sounds too slow, but I'm not sure it actually is.
No card is slow when you have 12 mana on turn 8 is what I think
I don't know about arcane quiver, for now there's only arcane shot, it's not like explosive trap is arcane.
Lor’themar with Vanndar would be pretty nuts
Why do they call it invincible if we can see it?
27:17 -- Was the wording changed on healing effects? Vampiric Blood doesn't say restore 5 health. It says "Give your hero +5 Health." Does that let you go over your maximum?
How would Blood matriarch liadrin work with call to arms in Wild?
Keletheth: Ok chill out there Lor'themar.
Corpse Explosion is essentially a 5 mana Defile right? Because as long as you have 1 corpse in stock and a 1 health minion it should continue the cycle, because I think you'd get the corpse from your minion dying before it checks if you have a corpse to repeat the effect.
I think Liadrin works with infused buffet biggun, too
The bad thing about this expansion is that they didn't release it in March.
Imagine Invincible in an undead hunter deck, using the kennels to give it rush. One undead on board getting +10/+10 and double taunt, then the next turn getting an additional +5/+5.
The flavour of this expansion, it’s so good! I’m going to make so many undead horde decks just because it’s fun.
would have been nice if acolyte of death would have had the same stats like acolyte of pain and there will be more acolytes, like the ragers.
Scourge Rager might be my new favorite card. Made me laugh so much
Scourge rager is gonna feel nice to get in evolve shammy
Theron: Emeris is like 9 or 10 mana? 7 mana is much more reasonable. But imagine Theron Brann + with old school cthun.
10 mana combo, does very little, but possible with Druid? Just for meme and giggles.
Invincible: If it can buff itself, it will be pretty ok, otherwise, questionable.
Sunwell: 5 mana draw 5? Pretty awful, but might save your life off of discover. Maybeeeeeeee. Definitely generate fireball for your opponent for lethal though.
Silver Stalwart: Hidden sleeper in control? but yea, at 5 mana would be good, at six seems honest and fair and not very viable in HS current meta.
Unliving champion: Either snap nerf or the vanguard of things to come: aggro undead totem shaman
see what I worry about for death knight is how it may just kill theif matchups because they cannot get the corpses
I wonder if the flavor text for Invincible will include something about being able to see it
Bro. Invincible in Druid is nuts. Hedgemaze will abuse it, it should trigger the buff on itself like it does with Greybough
I think the new rager might get some decent play if it can be cheated out and not activate the battlecry because then you basically have a 5/4 with reborn that has a tribe that may be relevant
Lor themar will make warrior lists I hope also sunwell is gonna be so annoying in Rouge when it hits
Invincible’s intro sound should be the song from Skillet.
Sunwell is going in my RNG mage for sure.
I hope Gideon Emery will voice Lor'themar again, that guy's voice is a 10/10
You missed the most important synergy for Liadrin currently, which is dun baldar's bridge, she is absolutely absurd after the card, since all the minions summoned get +2/+2 rush and divine shield, and makes the timeframe of threat of bridge one turn faster, where often it takes 2 turns for your stats to start mattering since they're slow outside of a few specific minions, or makes the board even harder to clear. Outside of that it slots well into those decks, since they often fall behind in the early game and struggle to kill minions without having a board already, allowing you to finish if the minions that value traded and clean out the threat that you normally couldn't(like a peasant).
Liadrin is great and should bring up the winrate of those middling paladin decks that run bridge.
How does the order work on her effect with the Bridge? If she checks before the Bridge buff is applied that's really strong, but otherwise it's still pretty hard to get those buffs to apply.
@@masterplusmargarita Minions come into play then get buffed by bridge, which is why the silver hand recruits get buffed before biggun. So it should come into play, have the effects check if they are applied, and then gain the stats into the shield and rush. This should also work with hobgoblin. The checking that, it worked so she should buff, and actually hobgoblin buffed first, meaning minions should have priority over locations.
Edit: Hobgoblin has the text "whenever" not after, need to go find something else
Instead of writing out the tribe(s) they should use symbols to represent the tribe. Then when a player hovers over the symbol it says what tribe the symbols represents.
I think it would be a cleaner look.
I stepped away from HS over a year ago, is it in a good state to return to? Tbh, if probably have to make a new account because I don't remember my old login, and I'm sure most of, if not all, my cards would be wild by now. Just hesitant about returning. I miss playing CCGs lol
Yeah the lor'themar's effect is good and all but i dont know i think he needs to be one less mana but 7 attack is too much i would drop it by 1 and he seems perfectly balanced
Arcane Quiver would work great for Questline Hunter support.
Just thinking which preorder is more worth to get. The mega doesnt seem like it has alot more for what it costs
Big warrior looking real juicy this expansion