Great interview. Finally a guy who talks about non- duality without just saying there’s no one and everything is just apparently happening over and over again. Thank you and if you ever get to talk to Richard again, please do!
Hi P, if you like a more concrete, practical clarification and/or deeper explanation of advaita you may want to check out Shunyamurti Sat Yoga Institute here on RUclips or Rupert Spira or the Vedanta Society New York or "Wisdom of the masters" channel here. Or you can check the non dual Teaching of "A course in Miracles" out. All these offer high quality content. Yet I think Shunyamurti could be particularly helpful for assisting you.....
Yes. Richard doesn't seem to mind playing around in the 'stories' whereas Jim Newman, Tony Parsons, Kenneth Madden, etc will pull the rug out from under any story the so-called mind comes up with.
Well, Richard is a good talker and his psychologic background helps. But Tony is very capable of conveying the same joyful message too, in a different way. And so is Paul Morgan-Summers for instance. Listening to all of them is quite enjoyable.
@@paulmetdebbie447 Wow, thank you so much Paul for pointing me towards Paul Morgan-Summers! I didn't know of him before, now I'm so glad I came across your comment today, more than a year later. Thanks so much, my friend! ;))
@@mellowbirds4777 I don't know about causality but time is fundamental. There is change and you can't have change without time. Without time there's no evolution.
wingedpearloyster Yes without time how do you get evolution of species! I’m happy to accept that there may be an awakening in which the way time and causality are experienced may be different to when there’s a sense of me and knowing, but to say there’s no time or causality at all seems utterly incoherent.
Q: Where were you before you were conceived? A: I don't know. Q: What is your next thought? A: I don't know. Q: Where do you go during deep sleep? A: I don't know. Q: What happens after you die? A: I don't know.
Thank you! Great interview! Good questions and answers! Richard is very clear and wise....😊 In stillness I am..... Stillness within, is my core experience, whatever appears or dissapears....❤️
Talking about that which cannot be talked about.." he who knows does not speak, he who speaks does not know" the wheels on the bus go round and round...🕉☯️❤️🙏🏼🦂
Richard is spot on re: morality and the various spiritual paths and teachers - the higher the moral ground they claim to represent, the more likely they are to be found to be doing the absolute opposite. I just googled sexual abuse in ashrams - it is absolutely shocking how many cases are documented. Swami Sivananda had to be one of the most sex negative, ultra celibate advocates ever. Numerous videos posted by his followers on RUclips are always trashing any kind of sexual interest as inferior to his recommended path to enlightenment. Sure enough, it emerges years after his passing that he was sexually abusing one of his western female devotees (to compound the insult - she was an unpaid assistant) for 11 years. There are literally hundreds of cases in the US alone.
This is the most comprehensive Q & A on the topic of non-duality that I've found on RUclips. Great questions (i.e., enlightenment, free will, psychedelics, manifesting, what's life like after "seeing non-duality," etc.). Richard's skillfully articulated responses, extensive experience "seeking," and his education make this a great resource for "human mind's hungry to know more" about non-duality. After doing so many interviews, I'm curious what Suma would say to these same questions? 🙌
Did you notice it was just a Q&A? No conversation, just a monologue? Teacher talking down to student. Parent talking to a child. Doesn't that bother you? Is this supposed to be oneness?
I like the Lucid Dreaming question and think Richard took it a little too literally. Awakening is very much like Lucid Dreaming in the sense that you wake up to the dream of not being a separate individual and then just continue on in the dream with this "understanding". Leo Hartong's book "Awakening to the Dream: The Gift of Lucid Living" is a perfect example of this view. Really enjoyed the interview, Richard's talks are always insightful.
19:59 There’s something called the “toupee fallacy,” it’s very interesting. It goes like this: a person claims “all toupees are noticeable. I’ve been able to spot every toupee I’ve come across, and therefore all toupees are like that.” The fallacy is that obviously the ones you DIDN’T notice, the ones that WERE really good toupees, weren’t included in your data set. So the whole “if you look at the numbers” argument doesn’t actually make sense here for that reason. The only ones talking about radical nonduality in this way are ones who came across the particular story Tony or Richard or whoever was telling, and it just resonated. These people often only came across Tony after seeking, and realized that their seeking was bullsh!t all along. But that doesn’t mean that “the seeing of nonduality” (which isn’t actually a thing) belongs exclusively to people who are taking in Open-Secret-language, or to people who happened to be seekers earlier in their ✨apparent✨ lives. There are people who have “seen nonduality” that haven’t ever heard of Tony, haven’t ever heard the word “nonduality,” and never will-because it just doesn’t have anything to do with the story to begin with. I “had an awakening” (whatever that means haha) way before I encountered any spiritual practices whatsoever. The speakers say themselves it has nothing to do with anything in particular, really, but that just isn’t believable from a story-is-real perspective. My point is that if your data set only contains
Why/how does the sense of 'my' individual experience remain within this vehicle? For example when we dream....the witness doesn't return back to the same character within the dream state as it does within this more convincing dream state now...what is locking the witness to this experience...
Nothing doesn't exist. If events occur then and they're and measured as time ago and distance to then - time/+space are equal (0) so the separation of observer and event is naut.
It is extremely difficult to get into "this" it seems it is because the " instrument" of seeing , which is the mind (ego) is the one that blocking one from seeing due to analytical nature by creation of itself. At the same time one can do nothing without this "mind" paradoxically, one is to get ride of this mind without using the same mind, by simply "being"
The experience I have is not of free will it is of freedom from people forcing me, mostly. I’m free to choose but the choice will always be according to my nature, cleverness, creativity and experiences so where’s the free will. It’s more a self expression. Of course some may say we are controlling our thoughts but that’s actually thought simply doing it’s thing and the sense of control is _because_ of thought not control over thought. Also there’s a sense of knowing too but apparently that can drop away! But the activity of thought especially when it gets creative or clever brings feelings of power and anticipation of getting what you want. So if we say ah but I choose lemonade when I actually wanted orange all we are showing is that we are motivated to choose something because we think it disproves the no free will thing but obviously it further confirms no free will. Nobody ever chooses anything without the motivation to do so.
After myself and life disappearing in the blink of an eye I experiencing non duality, followed by higher levels of consciousness before being aware of FALLING ASLEEP again and initially recoiling from having to be ''me '' again. SO who remembers non duality??? A question for ALL who claim to KNOW non duality.
I wrote this am about the non-duality teachings of Advaita-Vendanta and the ancient masters, such as Ramana Maharshi, Nisgardatta Maharah, and Sri Sadguru Ramakant, whose book I'm currently reading: Ultimate Truth vs. these more modern-day, I would say, "agnostic non-dualist", such as Richard Sylvester, Jim Newman and other non-spiritual, non-God-imbued "rationalist" teachers of "non-duality". So much of what both camps say/teach, is the same, as far as the individual self being an illusion that doesn't exist, and that in reality, there is only "that which is", or as these weterners say, "phenomena bubbling-up". But, what I find, is that unlike the lineage of the ancient Masters from Adi Shankaracharya to Ramana Maharshi, to Papooji, to Sri Nisgardatta--these modern Westeners are seemingly "heartless and dry rational" with their version of non-duality. They even make-fun-of the supposed "morality and holiness or Godliness" of Brahman lovers. My heart sides with the original Advaita Masters, and these other "fellows", while I enjoy their teaching-relating, I don't think they'd give you a dime if you were on a street corner, hungry and asking for spare change; Take that as you will.
How do you know your seeing is the full seeing? I suppose the answer could be that what could be beyond seeing that all there is is this! But at the end of the day I’d probably say there’s no way of knowing if this seeing is the full possible seeing. It doesn’t matter because I’m not claiming it’s something special just describing it.
Interesting to hear Richard's view on lucid dreaming here. In this video he says he "draws no more connection" between lucid dreaming and non-duality, although in another video ruclips.net/video/JiRDUMx0e5A/видео.html he at least says it's a good analogy of "waking up to the dream".
Nice interview, but it looks and sounds like it's been recorded with a camera from an external display. There are a lot of excellent and free video editing software available, so you don't have to resort to this sort of stuff.
Ah, yes; the Gurus of something they call "Non-duality" are trying to convince themselves, and others, that they themselves are not Gurus....As the Chinese say: "Progress is the OLDEST word".
Great interview. Finally a guy who talks about non- duality without just saying there’s no one and everything is just apparently happening over and over again. Thank you and if you ever get to talk to Richard again, please do!
Thank you. I appreciate your feedback.
Variety seems to be the norm!
Hi P,
if you like a more concrete, practical clarification and/or deeper explanation of advaita you may want to check out Shunyamurti Sat Yoga Institute here on RUclips or Rupert Spira or the Vedanta Society New York or "Wisdom of the masters" channel here.
Or you can check the non dual Teaching of "A course in Miracles" out.
All these offer high quality content.
Yet I think Shunyamurti could be particularly helpful for assisting you.....
Yes. Richard doesn't seem to mind playing around in the 'stories' whereas Jim Newman, Tony Parsons, Kenneth Madden, etc will pull the rug out from under any story the so-called mind comes up with.
Very likable guy. Seems like a real dude. Not pretentious and very down to earth. Suma you do a very great job!
Thank you Troy.
All the videos and interviews I have seen with R. Sylvester strongly resonate. Thks for this exchange and the former one with you.
So fun with the "Advaita police". :) Lovely interview.
Loved this, Tony Parsons talks in riddles!
Hindu Full Leaded
It’s Richard Sylvester lol
@@mellowbirds4777 I know
Well, Richard is a good talker and his psychologic background helps. But Tony is very capable of conveying the same joyful message too, in a different way. And so is Paul Morgan-Summers for instance. Listening to all of them is quite enjoyable.
@@paulmetdebbie447 Wow, thank you so much Paul for pointing me towards Paul Morgan-Summers! I didn't know of him before, now I'm so glad I came across your comment today, more than a year later. Thanks so much, my friend! ;))
Suma you have a great channel with many interesting interviews - thanks very much.
wingedpearloyster
In what ways would you say time and causality are not real?
@@mellowbirds4777 I don't know about causality but time is fundamental. There is change and you can't have change without time. Without time there's no evolution.
After listening to the first half, I wish I could know what state he's trying to describe. Now I'll try the second half.
@wingedpearloyster Thank you!!
wingedpearloyster
Yes without time how do you get evolution of species! I’m happy to accept that there may be an awakening in which the way time and causality are experienced may be different to when there’s a sense of me and knowing, but to say there’s no time or causality at all seems utterly incoherent.
There are no states, only processes.
There is no consciousness, only sense perception.
Great said 👍🏻
I enjoyed this, thank you both
Thank you.
Q: Where were you before you were conceived?
A: I don't know.
Q: What is your next thought?
A: I don't know.
Q: Where do you go during deep sleep?
A: I don't know.
Q: What happens after you die?
A: I don't know.
Thank you! Great interview! Good questions and answers! Richard is very clear and wise....😊
In stillness I am.....
Stillness within, is my core experience, whatever appears or dissapears....❤️
Talking about that which cannot be talked about.." he who knows does not speak, he who speaks does not know" the wheels on the bus go round and round...🕉☯️❤️🙏🏼🦂
Another great interview.
Thank you again Jon!
Richard is spot on re: morality and the various spiritual paths and teachers - the higher the moral ground they claim to represent, the more likely they are to be found to be doing the absolute opposite. I just googled sexual abuse in ashrams - it is absolutely shocking how many cases are documented. Swami Sivananda had to be one of the most sex negative, ultra celibate advocates ever. Numerous videos posted by his followers on RUclips are always trashing any kind of sexual interest as inferior to his recommended path to enlightenment. Sure enough, it emerges years after his passing that he was sexually abusing one of his western female devotees (to compound the insult - she was an unpaid assistant) for 11 years. There are literally hundreds of cases in the US alone.
This is the most comprehensive Q & A on the topic of non-duality that I've found on RUclips. Great questions (i.e., enlightenment, free will, psychedelics, manifesting, what's life like after "seeing non-duality," etc.). Richard's skillfully articulated responses, extensive experience "seeking," and his education make this a great resource for "human mind's hungry to know more" about non-duality. After doing so many interviews, I'm curious what Suma would say to these same questions? 🙌
Did you notice it was just a Q&A? No conversation, just a monologue? Teacher talking down to student. Parent talking to a child. Doesn't that bother you? Is this supposed to be oneness?
Wonderful work Suma
Thank you :)
@@InfiniteBeingTV You are most welcome :)
I like the Lucid Dreaming question and think Richard took it a little too literally.
Awakening is very much like Lucid Dreaming in the sense that you wake up to the dream of not being a separate individual and then just continue on in the dream with this "understanding".
Leo Hartong's book "Awakening to the Dream: The Gift of Lucid Living" is a perfect example of this view.
Really enjoyed the interview, Richard's talks are always insightful.
Cool look Richard, earring👌
Student: "I searched my whole life but I couldn't find. Master, what is in the way of finding ?" Master: "Why, searching of course."
A trick: watch series at kaldrostream. Me and my gf have been using it for watching all kinds of movies lately.
Great interview Suma ,keep up the good work ,Tim’s a friend of mine ,fun this non dual stuff isn’t it ,apparently x
Thank you Paul!
I wonder where I might find Suma’s take on things? A wonderful being, for sure.
19:59 There’s something called the “toupee fallacy,” it’s very interesting. It goes like this: a person claims “all toupees are noticeable. I’ve been able to spot every toupee I’ve come across, and therefore all toupees are like that.” The fallacy is that obviously the ones you DIDN’T notice, the ones that WERE really good toupees, weren’t included in your data set.
So the whole “if you look at the numbers” argument doesn’t actually make sense here for that reason. The only ones talking about radical nonduality in this way are ones who came across the particular story Tony or Richard or whoever was telling, and it just resonated. These people often only came across Tony after seeking, and realized that their seeking was bullsh!t all along. But that doesn’t mean that “the seeing of nonduality” (which isn’t actually a thing) belongs exclusively to people who are taking in Open-Secret-language, or to people who happened to be seekers earlier in their ✨apparent✨ lives. There are people who have “seen nonduality” that haven’t ever heard of Tony, haven’t ever heard the word “nonduality,” and never will-because it just doesn’t have anything to do with the story to begin with. I “had an awakening” (whatever that means haha) way before I encountered any spiritual practices whatsoever. The speakers say themselves it has nothing to do with anything in particular, really, but that just isn’t believable from a story-is-real perspective.
My point is that if your data set only contains
Why/how does the sense of 'my' individual experience remain within this vehicle?
For example when we dream....the witness doesn't return back to the same character within the dream state as it does within this more convincing dream state now...what is locking the witness to this experience...
Nothing doesn't exist. If events occur then and they're and measured as time ago and distance to then - time/+space are equal (0) so the separation of observer and event is naut.
This is all there is.
Very nice.
Thank you.
It is extremely difficult to get into "this" it seems it is because the " instrument" of seeing , which is the mind (ego) is the one that blocking one from seeing due to analytical nature by creation of itself. At the same time one can do nothing without this "mind" paradoxically, one is to get ride of this mind without using the same mind, by simply "being"
You are not what you look like.
Douglas Harding
Samuel Kirinyet8 try the Direct pointing vid
The experience I have is not of free will it is of freedom from people forcing me, mostly. I’m free to choose but the choice will always be according to my nature, cleverness, creativity and experiences so where’s the free will. It’s more a self expression.
Of course some may say we are controlling our thoughts but that’s actually thought simply doing it’s thing and the sense of control is _because_ of thought not control over thought. Also there’s a sense of knowing too but apparently that can drop away! But the activity of thought especially when it gets creative or clever brings feelings of power and anticipation of getting what you want.
So if we say ah but I choose lemonade when I actually wanted orange all we are showing is that we are motivated to choose something because we think it disproves the no free will thing but obviously it further confirms no free will.
Nobody ever chooses anything without the motivation to do so.
After myself and life disappearing in the blink of an eye I experiencing non duality, followed by higher levels of consciousness before being aware of FALLING ASLEEP again and initially recoiling from having to be ''me '' again. SO who remembers non duality??? A question for ALL who claim to KNOW non duality.
You are talking about an experience. Nonduality points to life being singular.
That was a very beautifull talk,thanks you Suma and Richard,keep up the good job:)
Luca.
Thank you Luca :)
I wrote this am about the non-duality teachings of Advaita-Vendanta and the ancient masters, such as Ramana Maharshi, Nisgardatta Maharah, and Sri Sadguru Ramakant, whose book I'm currently reading: Ultimate Truth vs. these more modern-day, I would say, "agnostic non-dualist", such as Richard Sylvester, Jim Newman and other non-spiritual, non-God-imbued "rationalist" teachers of "non-duality".
So much of what both camps say/teach, is the same, as far as the individual self being an illusion that doesn't exist, and that in reality, there is only "that which is", or as these weterners say, "phenomena bubbling-up". But, what I find, is that unlike the lineage of the ancient Masters from Adi Shankaracharya to Ramana Maharshi, to Papooji, to Sri Nisgardatta--these modern Westeners are seemingly "heartless and dry rational" with their version of non-duality. They even make-fun-of the supposed "morality and holiness or Godliness" of Brahman lovers.
My heart sides with the original Advaita Masters, and these other "fellows", while I enjoy their teaching-relating, I don't think they'd give you a dime if you were on a street corner, hungry and asking for spare change; Take that as you will.
Ok
Hello Suma, it would be interesting to hear of your own spiritual interest 😉
Hi Robbie, My views have changed a lot in last couple of years ... I will surely share at some point when i feel ready :)
Suma Gowda look forward to it ☺️
How do you know your seeing is the full seeing?
I suppose the answer could be that what could be beyond seeing that all there is is this!
But at the end of the day I’d probably say there’s no way of knowing if this seeing is the full possible seeing. It doesn’t matter because I’m not claiming it’s something special just describing it.
Interesting to hear Richard's view on lucid dreaming here. In this video he says he "draws no more connection" between lucid dreaming and non-duality, although in another video ruclips.net/video/JiRDUMx0e5A/видео.html he at least says it's a good analogy of "waking up to the dream".
👍😊
Shame it’s so distorted, had to stop after 30 mins
Roger Linden
And many more. See conscioustv.
Nice interview, but it looks and sounds like it's been recorded with a camera from an external display. There are a lot of excellent and free video editing software available, so you don't have to resort to this sort of stuff.
LOL, "pure non-duality" - an empty chair with no 'me' in it! Cool image.
All these non dual people or apparent people talking about nothing and making money and they usually repeat what others have said...
Join them. What a great way to make money.
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Yawn!!!!
lol an irritable fellow
What an irritable comment. Laughing out louder.
Ah, yes; the Gurus of something they call "Non-duality" are trying to convince themselves, and others, that they themselves are not Gurus....As the Chinese say: "Progress is the OLDEST word".
tim13354 let the chair do the talking ;)