You should include the numbers or your notes on the screen with the conversions of your mats and prices. Visual aid translates to a better understanding of the profit and costs better.
example: you buy 4 tolvium for 13 gold. so it 52 gold. you get 36% percentage (based on experience with leather alternative) back of the 4 tolvium, so its 1.44 pcs ori ingot lets say even 2. if you cant sell the ori ingots for at least 26 gold you make minus if you dont get the really good stuff from the container. for this calculation I even did not consider leather and others... now image you craft with 1000 tolvium so how can this procedure always be profit, never minus as you said? ppl below confirm they lost more instead they earned ;-)
I enjoy farming so I do this without the buy orders. All the mats (and some bonus by products) are farmed by me. 100% profit. The only downside is the time investment. But that's not a downside if it's what you like doing.
Well not 100% correct even if you farm it. Yes you farm it all by yourself, but to understand the market you need to know one thing. Everything you can sell is basically coin. So even if you farm that stuff you only avoid the trading tax but the value you put in stays the same. Question is, are the tax costs worth your time farming it yourself?
@@SmartyMcSmartsen I agree with gawf. I like farming materials and pump them into the market or invest in either engineering or armoring soon weapon smithing. I'm a nasty PvE player that prefers PvE over PvP. Time investment is not a problem for me xD
@@SmartyMcSmartsen If you have your rep high enough in the territory you sell in the tax prices are negligible. A few gold on thousands won't even make you look twice. Besides, my primary point is that I don't spend money buying mats. I get them myself. I earn skill points and extra mats and I enjoy my time doing it.
I do have to admit at times I've gotten lazy and bought the mats I needed but I've never been one to "play the market." I guess I just enjoy the process of grinding out the mats, the satisfaction of knowing that it was my hard work that got me where I am. I guess it's just a different mindset.
@lemoni sticky vines and others are must, I would not ignore them as you suggest. since crafting with sticky vines for example gives you double xp (205%) you need to use them if 10 sticky vines costs less than 4 additional tolvium... thats the break even point!
this method depends alot on your server prices like in my server orichalcum ingot are 10 to 12 gold so ill be losing money doing this or just rely on my luck from the boxes i guess
Nahhh, like Lemoni said, you'll be fine. I've been doing this for over a year and so has literally every other serious crafter. It just "got better" and more lucrative with the crafting box rewards; which have been a thing for over half the lifetime of the game. Adapt to current trends or die basically. Before they reworked how GS was applied I used to make a fortune crafting jewelry that came out between 550-580 GS with CON + 2 good perks (1 asmo and the rest platinum).
Dang, everything after the :20 second mark doesn't apply to me. I heard max armoring and was done. Love your videos though Lemoni. Hope this helps those with armoring out.
I did the exact thing with 20k and came out with 15k because I got no good craft mods. It's a gamble and the more you do the more likely you come out ahead probably
Thanks for the tips man Today i started with "95000" and after doing 3 session 250 each i ended up with "46036" so the total i spent was "48962" and just gonna say for 15 minutes of my time and the fact that i just bought everything i got a 10k profit for doing nothing
I'm up to 700 leather working and 630 armoring aptitude levels at the point. I've been doing this for a long time and it's how I've made all my money. But I'm not going to lie, these RUclips videos have cut my profits in half. I used to be able to turn 50k into an easy 200k with about 30 minutes of work every morning. Unfortunately I've had to venture out into other ways to make money, until those get exposed by the next RUclipsr. Either way, more craft mods and cooldown materials in the market is better for everyone. So it's a double edged sword.
I got "Shard of Consecrated Iron" on my first attempt, which is worth almost 17000 gold on my server. Starts off well ^^ Can I also work with for example 2000 Tolvium, Phasefiber and 500 Scalecloth?
Broooo im playing in Valhala too. I watxh all you vids lol. cant seem to be able to increase my money. no craft skills at 200 except for cooking. but cant seem to be able to profit out of that either. Good vids.
This guide looks good. I just hit lvl 200 armoring today and when I search for plate or look through my items available to craft I don't see the orichalcum plate. What am I doing wrong?
@@bwdnako This is exactly what I was doing lmao. Thank you for the help, it's obvious in the video but for some reason I just didn't pick up on that part.
You said you tested efficiency so I'm curious. How much less efficient would this be with weaponsmithing and engineering? Still gotta level those so I'd take a small efficiency hit for multitasking, but I don't want to screw myself
ironically because of this video, these resources/method might not be the cheapest. Tried this for a few months already and it does work (on my server) if the resources are sufficient and efficient which is not case all the time.
been buying out and hording the shadowfur for ransom market since this video popped gonna nuke the market for a few months so people can't bother with this method unless they farm it
@@LemoniGames thanks big fan of your vids point my friends to them to learn healer and other classes :D --- bought out shadow fur thats < 5g and sit afk raising buy order 1 cent everytime someone tries to pass me BWahaha
Definitely factor in price of the items and keep in mind that you can just get unlucky. I burned through 80k gold doing this and didn't get a single squirming vine which is really the only thing still worth anything on Yonas.
Your profit/loss is based upon getting lucky with the in game loot boxes. Show the numbers for 10 apt crates that don't net any good craft mods and then you will have a more realistic view. Its crap to tell everyone to try to get lucky with loot boxes that this is unlimited gold....
You should include the numbers or your notes on the screen with the conversions of your mats and prices. Visual aid translates to a better understanding of the profit and costs better.
example: you buy 4 tolvium for 13 gold. so it 52 gold. you get 36% percentage (based on experience with leather alternative) back of the 4 tolvium, so its 1.44 pcs ori ingot lets say even 2. if you cant sell the ori ingots for at least 26 gold you make minus if you dont get the really good stuff from the container. for this calculation I even did not consider leather and others... now image you craft with 1000 tolvium so how can this procedure always be profit, never minus as you said? ppl below confirm they lost more instead they earned ;-)
I enjoy farming so I do this without the buy orders. All the mats (and some bonus by products) are farmed by me. 100% profit. The only downside is the time investment. But that's not a downside if it's what you like doing.
Well not 100% correct even if you farm it. Yes you farm it all by yourself, but to understand the market you need to know one thing. Everything you can sell is basically coin. So even if you farm that stuff you only avoid the trading tax but the value you put in stays the same. Question is, are the tax costs worth your time farming it yourself?
@@SmartyMcSmartsen I agree with gawf. I like farming materials and pump them into the market or invest in either engineering or armoring soon weapon smithing. I'm a nasty PvE player that prefers PvE over PvP. Time investment is not a problem for me xD
@@SmartyMcSmartsen If you have your rep high enough in the territory you sell in the tax prices are negligible. A few gold on thousands won't even make you look twice. Besides, my primary point is that I don't spend money buying mats. I get them myself. I earn skill points and extra mats and I enjoy my time doing it.
I do have to admit at times I've gotten lazy and bought the mats I needed but I've never been one to "play the market." I guess I just enjoy the process of grinding out the mats, the satisfaction of knowing that it was my hard work that got me where I am. I guess it's just a different mindset.
Fun fact: On Crassus, orichalcum ingots are HALF the price of Tolvium or Cinnabar.
@lemoni sticky vines and others are must, I would not ignore them as you suggest. since crafting with sticky vines for example gives you double xp (205%) you need to use them if 10 sticky vines costs less than 4 additional tolvium... thats the break even point!
this method depends alot on your server prices like in my server orichalcum ingot are 10 to 12 gold so ill be losing money doing this or just rely on my luck from the boxes i guess
there goes the tolvium and cinnibar prices
That depend of the sever my cinnamon/tolvium is 10/12 gold
Nahhh, like Lemoni said, you'll be fine. I've been doing this for over a year and so has literally every other serious crafter. It just "got better" and more lucrative with the crafting box rewards; which have been a thing for over half the lifetime of the game. Adapt to current trends or die basically. Before they reworked how GS was applied I used to make a fortune crafting jewelry that came out between 550-580 GS with CON + 2 good perks (1 asmo and the rest platinum).
@@LemoniGames hahaha thy went up 5 gold on my server since our vide
So are these alternate mats really cheaper than standard mats if we take into account bonuses on refining?
Dang, everything after the :20 second mark doesn't apply to me. I heard max armoring and was done. Love your videos though Lemoni. Hope this helps those with armoring out.
This method really depends on the price of the vines and shard of c.i. On my server they are both below 10k, so the profit margin is much smaller.
@@LemoniGames Indeed they are, so are the cooldown mats (asmo at 150 lol). Profit can be made, but not as high of a margin as on many servers.
This method is being used for a good amount people for a long time now, the profit margins have gone down and will probably go down a little more.
hello! what would you recommend to someone who isnt quite lvl 60 yet to try to make some gold?
I did the exact thing with 20k and came out with 15k because I got no good craft mods. It's a gamble and the more you do the more likely you come out ahead probably
Thanks for the tips man
Today i started with "95000" and after doing 3 session 250 each i ended up with "46036" so the total i spent was "48962" and just gonna say for 15 minutes of my time and the fact that i just bought everything i got a 10k profit for doing nothing
I'm up to 700 leather working and 630 armoring aptitude levels at the point. I've been doing this for a long time and it's how I've made all my money.
But I'm not going to lie, these RUclips videos have cut my profits in half. I used to be able to turn 50k into an easy 200k with about 30 minutes of work every morning. Unfortunately I've had to venture out into other ways to make money, until those get exposed by the next RUclipsr.
Either way, more craft mods and cooldown materials in the market is better for everyone. So it's a double edged sword.
ok rat
do you have any content for "the first 50k" I am bouncing between 20k and 100g every other week.
How do you make money from gypsum orbs? What do I do with them now that I’m max GS?
I got "Shard of Consecrated Iron" on my first attempt, which is worth almost 17000 gold on my server. Starts off well ^^ Can I also work with for example 2000 Tolvium, Phasefiber and 500 Scalecloth?
How in the f. Shard of consecrated iron is worth 150g on my FSS server
Broooo im playing in Valhala too. I watxh all you vids lol. cant seem to be able to increase my money. no craft skills at 200 except for cooking. but cant seem to be able to profit out of that either. Good vids.
This guide looks good. I just hit lvl 200 armoring today and when I search for plate or look through my items available to craft I don't see the orichalcum plate. What am I doing wrong?
silly question, are you going to the forge and not the outfitting station?
@@bwdnako This is exactly what I was doing lmao. Thank you for the help, it's obvious in the video but for some reason I just didn't pick up on that part.
@@blmally4359 I have done the exact same thing before, lol.
You said you tested efficiency so I'm curious. How much less efficient would this be with weaponsmithing and engineering? Still gotta level those so I'd take a small efficiency hit for multitasking, but I don't want to screw myself
you test weaponsmith? is it work?
Ohh, you're on Valhalla now.. Cool beans, Welcome welcome
We need an m10 healer gearing/guide video I’m really lost on what to do
ironically because of this video, these resources/method might not be the cheapest. Tried this for a few months already and it does work (on my server) if the resources are sufficient and efficient which is not case all the time.
Any advice how can I flip craft those Ori ingots? The price on Apophis now 13g for one so the profit is realy low
@@LemoniGames 13.40
@@OlegVulkanov same here on Nyx
you are ruining my idea 😡😡🤡🤡😭😭😂😂😂 , i love it, in a way, it helps ppl make money, awesome video!
my ori ingots sell for 9 on my server, is it even possible to make profit when tolvium costs 10
Hope all is well buddy! Will have to tap in on this one.
max prise for tolvium and cinnabar?
its no use anymore ppl bought the whole server supplies and everything is like 3x more than it used to be thanks to this vidoes u guys make :D
How much costs to lvl up from 0 to 200 ? I dont have it leveled yet !
Using infused armor fragment for up lvl right😂
Tolvium and Cinnabar gonna skyrocket in price now
Na, this is not new at all. It is a method that some people have been doing for a long time.
It's gonna break the economy. Nice video
Now everybody start to use that and flood the market,like allready game is not in bad shape.
I hope it's no cost exploit from bot, or the price in market will go down
been buying out and hording the shadowfur for ransom market since this video popped gonna nuke the market for a few months so people can't bother with this method unless they farm it
@@LemoniGames thanks big fan of your vids point my friends to them to learn healer and other classes :D --- bought out shadow fur thats < 5g and sit afk raising buy order 1 cent everytime someone tries to pass me BWahaha
Lol thats me that took it up to 5.04! love yer videos!
Make sure you use terr standing song prior to doing this!!!
Definitely factor in price of the items and keep in mind that you can just get unlucky. I burned through 80k gold doing this and didn't get a single squirming vine which is really the only thing still worth anything on Yonas.
Your profit/loss is based upon getting lucky with the in game loot boxes. Show the numbers for 10 apt crates that don't net any good craft mods and then you will have a more realistic view. Its crap to tell everyone to try to get lucky with loot boxes that this is unlimited gold....
Or better yet make a video showing you going from 50k to 500k and maybe your claim of unlimited gold would be more than just clickbait
5 Head did a much more indepth video on this weeks ago ... check it out. 5 head survival gaming
ruclips.net/video/T9eUWe6nY-s/видео.html
Do you need armoring gear?
Nope. The armoring gear only affects the gear score and for this, it doesn't matter what the GS is.
@@jeffintx the higher the gearscore the higher chance of fragments.
On most servers it's Not worth anymore you will lose money
You really need to do any of this? Aren't you in the company that had like 5 shell companies?
only applies to your server and your prices..
You're spilling secrets! STOP IT! It's bringing prices down for cooldown mats! (Hail Hydra)
WHERE HAVE U BEEN
@@LemoniGames look behind you
i lost 60k on that i tried no good drops.
ingots are dropping in price they were 15 gold today
I'm noticing that too!
So we need to be already rich to be richer? ……
oh no , make it private :D :D n1 guide
im soo unlucky i lost 50k xD
I opened 14lvl armoring creates and i found 2squirming vines and another mods full shit :)))))))))))))))))))))))
I’ve never been more confused in my life
sorry :(
Dont try this now. I spent 18K and earn 8k just :/
Atleast bot:s get useful.
you ruined my idea