Are You SURE You're Using the Right Pick Gauge?
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I'm thinking by the comments that his has officially become an ad for Jazz III picks. haha
They are fantastic though, so no surprise there
IMO Jazz III are too tiny to hold onto. I prefer bigger dunlop Tortex which has a jazz III edge but the normal pick size. U get the sharpness and attack of the sharp jazz tip but still big so you can hold it comfortably (for me)
Lol
Jazz lll picks changed my playing x 100....speed , accuracy and tone for metal increased. I still prefer a light pick for acoustic. If I'm playing really fast, I use Ernie Ball prodigy picks. They are awesome ..
I use basically only jazz III picks
I was just reminded that back in college I used to play with a worn down quarter.
Are you Brian May?
We've all been there
Sometimes I just pinch my fingernails together and use my index for downstrokes and thumb for upstrokes. But thats last option tho.
@@ValiantNoob I’m learning how to play finger style and when I want to play some open chords I do that technique too, out of laziness of course
@@Dankster-yo8xv wait wasn't that zztop that would play with a quarter?
Before I watched this I said, “he better talk about how much better acoustic guitar sounds with thin picks.”
Did not disappoint.
I use a 1.5 on acoustic. It is harder to make sound good while strumming, but can be done. I can really dig in for single string, or double stop stuff and it sounds way better palm muted.
I find .73 to be sweet spot for acoustic. Everything less has this clacky sound I don't like. You can go a litlle bit thicker from there but you risk losing some of the richness in your tone. But it also depends on guitar, I imagine you can attack dreadnought more than concert.
Not sure what style you play, but my experience is that most good acoustic players play with thicker picks. It may be harder at first, but if you stick with it you have much better control and much much less sound from the pick itself.
Much more open sounding..but honestly I would go a notch higher if not for carpal tunnel/ tendonitis ya know.
I really wish I knew this. I've been playing electric for four years, but acoustic for like 7 months. I wondered why I always sounded so choppy and like bad. Guess it's never too late to learn.
I started on Dunlop Tortex .73mm but then switched to Tortex .88mm. I tried Tortex 1mm but didn't like it as much as .88mm. Then I got a variety pack of Dunlop picks to try some stuff out, and in that bag was a Dunlop Gator Grip .96mm. Gator Grip picks are slightly smaller than Tortex and have slightly bevelled edges. The difference looks subtle but to me they feel a lot more comfortable and I feel like my grip on the pick is a lot more solid. I've also tried Gator Grip 1.14mm, and while I prefer the .96mm I think that 1.14mm Gator Grip is better than 1mm Tortex.
I recently found these picks called Ultex Sharps which is a sharpened contoured version of the standard shape and I am in LOVE with those things!
In computer lingo, we'd call what you feel with light gauge picks "latency". Latency is the delay in something to get to where it needs to be to do its job. As with spinning hard drives: latency is the the time it takes for the spot on the turning platters to arrive under the pickup head to read the data the processor needs. The elimination of this latency is why SSDs are so much faster than mechanical hard drives. Your light picks are literally waving back and forth after each string strike and must end their oscillation to return to a position ready for the next clean strike: latency.
@@creamwobbly I'd say attack is more accurate.
I got good at guitar (like able to play a lot of Van Halen songs) with a .60mm nylon pick. I too didn’t realize that the pick made a huge difference in tone. Eddie used the Fender Medium Celluloid picks in the early days. I had some laying around and omg…the tone was finally there. Songs like Little Dreamer actually got that pop that Eddie does in the mid frequency range. Picks are a huge tone changer. I also have a Gibson pickup in a strat style guitar with a Plexi and was wondering why RUclips guitarists with the same setup had that PAF tone and I didn’t. Well, it was the pick!
I actually started with pink tortex (which, at least at the time) was one step thicker than purple. . .first time I borrowed a friends's super-light pick, I thought I was going to break it. The second time, I dropped it into my acoustic. I never used a pick that light again. I also stopped worrying about my pick selection as much and just used what felt comfortable when I found out one of the best guitarists in our musical circle of friends thing either cut his picks out of old plastic milk crates, or used a quarter. Strangely, I switched primarily to bass these days, but I fingerpick bass, but I'm going to be playing some guitar so I can record some solo stuff, and I was trying to remember the tortex color code, since I think they've changed it up since I primarily started playing bass.
I’m a guitarist turned bass player, so I can and do use picks to play bass sometimes. I’ve found that the heavy picks give you a duller more finger-ish type sound and the medium to light ones give you the bouncy trebly sound. I use all 3 types for different styles, as well as fingers for sure. But all that said to say yes picks affect the sound no doubt about it.
I play with the round side of the pick and there is very little sticking out. I like the heavy ones. I even have some wood picks.
I buy all the thickness shape, materials and size I can find that is not too exotic and expensive. Mostly Jim Dunlop.
My reason is that I was growing as a player. I want to experiment to see. Pick is realtively cheap compare to other aspects of guitar playing.
Overall my pick collection is about the price of 4-5 strings set. It's something that so so easy to experiment.
When I buy picks, I usually go for .88 or higher because I play a lot of pinch harmonics and for some reason, I only like the sound of them with the heavier picks for a better sound but with acoustic, light gauge for sure
I play black metal, so I shred thin picks even though I prefer them. I get heavy picks now simply for longevity.
i use the black 2 mm picks and I play mostly jazz inspired stuff
back in my live gig days I swore by Tortex picks. I used the blue and green ones for electric guitar, with d'adario 9 gauge strings. My least favorite kind of picks is when they get too creative with the shape of them and it feels so weird and unnatural in your hand, with weird corners and shit. With acoustic I always use finger picking, not actual picks, but I haven't really ever done a professional recording of acoustic so dunno if picks are needed for that to sound good.
Guthrie govan said you i should use a hard pick, so i am using a goddamn hard pick
I started with a heavy fender pick, and I still use the heaviest pick even after trying all of the different levels
Max Grip Jazz 3 for the win
The thing about thick vs thin picks for me is that with thicker picks, you can always just hold it more loosely if you want that flop. With thinner picks, it doesn't matter how hard you grip the pick, it will always flop around.
great point
you dont get that flop even when you hold it looser
Exactly. Thicker picks sound better to me, even on acoustics. It's a matter of lightening your touch.
Tell that to Eddie Van Halen and Paul Gilbert.
@@JohnVieto If you use a thin pick that's pointy then if you hold it at the right angle it's pretty close to a thick pick. I'm not a fan of thin picks but I've heard some good players make the most of em by adjusting the angle between strumming and lead playing. 45 degrees with a pointy thin pick will still give a decent attack. If the pick isn't pointy then you lose all the benefits of the angle.
My first pick was an Ernie Ball glow-in-the-dark God-knows-what gauge. Then my dog chewed it up, then my oldest brother tried fixing it but he split it in half so he gave me a pick of his as ''compensation'' but now my other dog chewed up that one as well.
Nice
Sell the dogs to buy more picks. Simple.
Get yourself 5$ and convince someone to take you to guitar center. You can get a bag of 10 or so for 3-4$
Your talking like picks aren't like 5 bucks for 15 of em.
It's a pick, not a car.
I've been playing those green guys for 20 years. I just today realized that these picks are in rainbow/ROYGBIV order.
Good catch!
Me, a fingerstyle player: *interesting*
I'm same way, I feel more comfortable playing with my fingers and with a pick I might as well throw guitar in the trash. I wonder what causes that
Are your finger the right size?
one time i fard pant
I cannot finger pick to save my soul.. help me 🤣
Have you tried filing your fingers down to get a different feel?
Jazz III’s are where it’s at, in my opinion.
Not bad, but try Chicken Picks. They are amazing.
Jazz IIIs are great but I love the new JD Flow Picks even better. Really smooth pick. Well worth a try.
I like the Jazz iii XLs 1.14s. I find the stanard jazz iii a bit too small for my hand. The John Petrucci picks are nice too but a little too thick for me
The Dunlop XL 1.35 Tortex Jazz III is currently my favorite pick.
Ultex jazz III for me. The regular ones are too slippery.
"Are You SURE You're Using the Right Pick Gauge?" absolutely fuccking not lmao :(
I use a fairly thin pick , but what i find better is the fact that there is a grip texture to it and its much easier to hold on to in light or heavy picking.
Um there are textured hard picks
Once I tried Jazz 3 and I’d never look back. Jazz 3 2.0 ❤️
Same here.
Those 2.0's have something to them I can't figure out. They sound a lot different than other similar picks.
Hell yeah with you bro still playing with jazz 3😂
Same.
I did. But I went to the Tortex Jazz instead of the nylon one.
4:26 "verses the heaviest pick I have, listen to this"
Me "oh that's so much nicer"
"see it gets dull sounding"
Me :(
All opinion :)
If you like that sound better play like that.
A thicker pick provides more attack and less resistance which means less scratching from the pick sliding as you stroke the note. His opinion on heavier picks is. The best pick on the market right now is the 1mm James hetfield whitefang. But Dunlop flows of any size are great. I think the normal dull point picks the guy in the video use all sound like shit. A pointy pick tip is crucial. And most pointy picks are thicker. That extra pick attack not only sounds good to me which is just opinion. But a fact about the sound is you will cut through the mix so much better with a sharp thick pick then you would a light dull pick
3mm 'Big Stubby' is my go-to for electric leads. Amazing pick
Stubby gives you ULTIMATE control. NO GIVE whatsoever.
the stubby is the pick of kings. they’re amazing for jazz leads and chop style comping
These are my go to, when I play bass.
The bottom line is, to each their own. Just like women, we all have our preference. Thick, thin, redhead, yellow, midget, stepsister, it's all good.
Bro 😂 Jesus loves u
Giggity
When ur stepsister pick gets stuck in the acoustic: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Hold up
Ha, giggity giggity
Im more of a jazz 3 guy myself
I just played with a jazz 3 randomly one day and never looked back.
I picked up one of those in my music class once and i've heard so much hype about it, so I gave it a shot, and from the instant I picked it up and had it in my fingers, I was absolutely appalled at how uncomfortable and disgusting it felt and played. Just not for me.
Jazz 3 XL for me
Yessir I have the Kirk sig’s
I used to buy jazz 3 Tortex green picks. Now can't find them anywhere, up until last year I found the replacement. 0.88 Tortex jazz in white. I guess Dunlop did not prefer the colour green apart from me 🥺🥺
I like to use a thick pick when I want to use it like a hammer, and a thin one when I want to use it like a brush.
I use a thick pick for everything but the dynamics come from the hand the pick just responds. That why I like thick ones.
You didn't talk about sharp picks. I bought sharp picks by accident, and it was the best mistake I ever made. Takes a little getting used to, but your attack on the string is more precise, and your speed Solo's are cleaner and faster. Even my cord playing is cleaner. I can't play with a round tip pick now. I use the black Dunlop heaviest pick. They don't wear as fast and lose the point. TRY THEM! Thank me later...
Paul Gilbert uses a .60 pick (Dunlop orange). He said his shredder friends were horrified when he told them but now he can't get enough of that slappy feeling. Whatever works for you is the best pick. Don't let other people tell you what's right or wrong.
Heck yeah. Nice picks, i love them they are just great for either blues / rock, funk, acoustic... et cetera, very versatile if you actually hold them in a way they don't bend that much or simply accept the slappy feel.
Gilbert also uses his teeth and plays better than most
Dunlop Orange 60s. Since 1988.
Exactly! To each his own. I think I've tried just about every pick out there on the market from Dunlop nylons, tortex, celluloid. Fender shell, and black celluloid picks. Discovered by a happy accident dynamic response who are usually known for their strings also makes a decent shell pick. So I'm torn between that one and the Gibson black celluloid picks. In medium gauge though.
I found for playing a strat trying to capture those '80s strat quack tones that a medium pick works best. But still can cover a nice buttery lead tone.
Even Neil Schon from journey uses medium picks. He gets a fantastic tone.
Not long ago in an interview he said that he uses medium because he likes The buttery sound. "Dunlop mediums the pretty blue ones."
If you want an extreme example of the "heavier as you get more experience", evidently Pat Metheney plays Fender Extra Light picks but he uses the round end!
Tosin Abasi plays a .73mm Ultex pick.
It's weird because ever since the beginning I always wanted a smaller and thicker pick. When I discovered Jazz 3 everything changed, even more when I discovered the Max Grip version.
I lost my max grip pick and I've been devastated ever since honestly 😅😂
Same story but i ended up with a jazz stuby 3mm. sadly they don't seem to make a gripier version of it.
jazz III is great, I was using .88 and when tried Jazz III once I have never looked back since then. it is far more better than tortex that it is just insane
Maxgrip jazz's are basically all I play nowadays
As a Shen main and a guitarist, I am truly happy to see a River Shen out in the wild
Thinner picks are great for rhythm. I’d always use a thin pick if I’m playing funk, the floppiness of the pick actually makes it easier to achieve certain rhythms
funk and ska/reggae backbeat goes well with lighter picks! to get that waka waka
I find I can’t use anything except thin picks for faster strumming songs, especially lead
Nile Rodgers uses the red Dunlop picks for his rhythm, and may be all he uses since he doesn't play much lead.
I’ve used the tortex 1.14 picks for the entire time I’ve been playing electric guitar, and a couple of days ago I tried playing with a light pick and it made me play better instantly. For a long time I thought thin picks weren’t any good, but to me they sound so much better, and feel so much better!
Plus, they make for a better pick scratch
Same here!
Yeah I was convinced thick was better for years until I saw Paul Gilbert talk about how he uses the orange Tortex 0.60mm picks and thinks they sound better than the thicker ones. He proceeded to demonstrate exactly what he was talking about and my eyes were opened.
thiner picks make you play better wen you are a beginne yes, later on you want to switch to heavy its way more precise and lets you play faster and cleaner
@@user-yo3cg9ev8y fuller sound as well I never use thin picks anymore. Once you learn pick control thick is best for sure especially peek made ones like blue chip and gravity golds. All kinds of shapes and gauges from blue chip
After trying DOZENS of picks, I've arrived at the Dunlop Flow gloss 2.0 picks. I love them.
My man! flows are the greatest. I use the 3.0 and 2.0 picks.. By far my favorite!!!
Tried the John Petrucci flow picks recently and I'm pretty convinced they're the best out of the whole range. I'm not even a Dream Theatre fan, but I'm not surprised JP knows what makes a great pick.
After 10 years these are finally "my" picks. Love them.
Green Tortex .88’s 🥰
+1 Can't go wrong with those!
Red Tortex .50mm
Those tortoiseshell Fender Mediums were total ass, my dude. Thank God I caught a Dunlop Yellow from Rick at an Exodus show...but Orange 60s completed me.
Why is it this 'hard pick' thing always feels like some sorta, "boys don't cry," "my dad can beat up your dad," thing?
Interesting that you never mentioned your choice of pick changing according to what string gauge you are using. And the difference in what the pick is made of makes a huge difference to me. I used these colored Dunlop picks for the first several years I played. Because they are made of Tortex instead of whatever Fender and Gibson picks were made of, they felt different to me. A Fender medium pick is roughly .72 if I'm not mistaken. The closest (yellow) Dunlop equivalent always felt stiffer to me. Also the edges aren't as beveled or as slippery. And the flex on Dunlop seams to have a longer "memory".
For electric, I always played .009 gauge strings or a hybrid set with 9's on top and 10's on the bass strings.
At those gauges, I have tried all kinds of picks and still end up returning to Fender mediums.
Unless I'm playing a lot of shredding lead work when I prefer a pick that's a little thicker, the Fender med is just about right. With a kicker. I guess I like it a shade lighter than a Fender medium, because my favorite for electric is a well used, and broken in Fender medium.
For acoustic, which I usually use 12s on, I need it a little thicker and I go for a brand new stiffer Fender medium again.
Dunlop Tortex always felt less natural and a little bit "gummy". And that sweet spot I'm looking for falls in between the yellow and orange.
Orange is too flexible and yellow too stiff. And I absolutely HATE the grey nylon picks. They are super gummy and seem to develop a lot of "burrs" that stick out from the edges and catch the string abruptly.
But pick preferences are like opinions...everyone has them and they are all different and personal.
To each his or her own!
Whenever someone gives me a light gauge pick a bit of me dies
As a new player I already can't stand too light a gauge haha
I switch between 1.14 dunlop and 1.5 dunlop max grip. If someone gives me that wompy 0.something pick I'll kill him with that. I also have a bunch of fender heavy like the once he mentioned in the beginning of the video but they are still a lil bit to flexible (not skinny) to play power chords, gallop ana alternate picking on the E string. I use 10's btw.
I just put my guitar down and say nevermind
not sure why i watched a 13m video on picks... "its midnight" I guess is the only reason
I asked myself the same question.
same)
Same here lmao
4:00am for me, damn just noticed
well if you're a newer guitar player, especially self taught, this info is pretty useful
if you don't play guitar though that's another thing haha
I've tried so many picks over the years of various shapes, sizes, thicknesses, and gimmicks. Landed on the godsend 1.38 mm ultex jazz 3. I'm in love! Fast, controlled, great grip for me and now the one time elusive pinch harmonics are a breeze!
Change picks to condoms
Right on! I didn’t like normal jazz 3s since i found them to slippery, so i used tortex 1,14 mil with edges that i had sanded to kinda simulate a jazz 3. But then i found ultex jazz 3s.
When I first started playing many years ago I copied everything Metallica did. That means I was using the green .88 Dunlop picks. I actually find the yellow .73s triangle picks to be my absolute favorite and easiest to play with.
Those Hetfield signature picks are pretty great though!
Same exact thing bro. I saw all the green picks on his mic stand on the Binge and Purge box set videos. I really got crazy after I saw him with some blue ones on his stand sometimes too so I bounced back and forth once I got tired of seeing whatever color I was using. They feel so similar that they are essentially interchangeable. However the yellow to green feels a lot different than green to blue. I also used Ernie Ball hybrid slinkies because it said he and Kirk both uses them on the back. Little did I know, it says that on the back of like every variety so I don’t even know if that’s the gauge they use.
Now I still use mainly green but the tortex flows because I like the shape and smaller size. I also like the purple jazz XLs here and there.
I am probably alone in this, but I geniuenly love the sound of real heavy acoustic
You're definitely not alone!
As a bass player, I believe in 1.5mm Dunlop Sharp supremacy. The attack feels like punching my strings.
As a bass player i disagree 0.73 mm for life
@@AM-dh2bg 0,73mm? Weak, i use paper picks to shred on bass!
LOL I'm a guitarist and I also use them.
I like the pointy tip, because it helps me hide how terrible my tremolo picking skills are.
Points to consider:
*Gauge of the strings
*Electric/ acoustic/ ukulele
*How hard you normally strum
*Pic angle when strumming
*Holding pick technique
* Type of music played
*Different shapes can be a help.
*Pick materials
I like heavy for all ( excluding ukulele)
Size of the pick too, I love purple Dunloops and tried the triangle version of it, but I'd like to hide my pick between index and middle finger for fingerstyle sections and that didn't work with them.
Jazz III’s are great but I really love the John Petrucci signature picks. They’re like a Jazz III but just slightly larger so you can actually hold onto them.
I found one on a pavement and tried... They are much louder than Dunlop Flows 1.5mm which was very interesting to spot.
@Timothy Martin it is just modify to his style
Yeah. Exactly my sentiment. The JP picks are my favourite as well.
the John Petrucci sig. picks still felt way too small for me. I'm stuck with the Jim Root picks by dunlop (1.38 mm). They're perfect for me :)
When I first started playing at 14, I thought those Fender confetti picks were the coolest thing ever. I remember taking the bus out to some music shop that mainly sold grand pianos, just to get those stupid picks, because that was the only place I knew of that had them. Little things like that, that get you stoked on playing your guitar are important. It makes it fun and helps you reconnect with the things that inspired you to pick up the guitar in the first place. That’s why I do stuff like always play using coiled amp cords, because they remind me of Jimi Hendrix setting his guitar on fire at the Monterey Pop Festival, and how amazing it was the first time I saw that footage.
jazz III is the master of them all and is not even close
Eh, i feel like the jazz III's tone isn't as good as tortex. For example, if I'm playing palm muted notes on the G, B, and E string, the notes sound very dry. Not sure how to describe it, weak, thin.
Try out the jazz III 2.0 :)
I find it too small personally
Too small
I have 6 Matt Heafy signature Jazz III picks. Too small for me
It seems I'm a bit early for once. But I've always been a thin pick kinda guy myself, about .6 or so usually suits me
Where my other 2mm players at?
I used to use the purple dunlop 2mm picks but then i discovered jazz III XLs and havent looked back. And whenever i do use the purple ones they feel too thick now.
I love my Dunlop Flow 2, 2.5, & 3mm picks! They just feel so smooth and slick on the strings. They really do flow like the name says.
I use purple dunlops love em
Ultex gang
I use 3mm lol
Leave your favourite picks in all cases and maybe tape some to the axe.
When I started teaching, I ended up finding a Jazz III left behind in a teaching room by another teacher. A friend of mine lives by the jazz III's so I was curious. At the time I was using the yellow tortex exclusively. Tried the Jazz III and loved it. So it was game on after that and the quest to find the perfect Jazz III as the red one was too small for when I played live. I tried the XL's, then the Max Grip, then those Dava picks, then the black Ultex. The black Ultex was the winner, until the black John Petrucci Jazz III's showed up one day. Been using those exclusively, ever since.
Blue Dunlop Gang
I’m here
Used green tortex for decades, recently changed to blue.
I use the blues but I just recently realized I like the sharps not the regular. I didn't realize there were options, a blue pick is a blue pick right?? I picked up the sharps somewhere accidentally and I love them. They are the same size but the tip is.. well a lot sharper point. I usually play with just barely the tip of the pick sticking out, so I can get a much more focused tone with the sharps. Once I realized this, I went on Amazon and bought two 12packs because my local Guitar Center only had the yellow sharp Dunlops (0.73mm) in stock. I did buy a pack of yellows and I like them when on acoustic or want a brighter tone on electric.
when you go to comment on the jazz 3 being good but 844 people already have.
Can’t beat the purple Dunlops! 🤘🏻
I like the purple for rhythm, not so much for lead personally (which I don't do that often unless I'm doing something like Iron Maiden where the rhythm is lead lines) so I've started using the blue Jazz III XL picks. Best of both worlds
Which purple dunlop picks? There are a few
gator grip is where it's at
You mean the Big Stubbys? Those things could open paint cans lol
Purple gator grips were my thing until i picked up a 1.5 jazz iii. Now other than strumming an acoustic, i can't play with them!
At this point I swap between Big Stubbies, Flow 2.5’s, 3.0’s, and 4.2’s lol I have naturally sweaty hands, so the extra with provides a better grip for me. When I was younger I only got what I saw in stores. With the age of the internet, it allowed me to try many types and I found thicker picks work best for me, especially when I play bass with them. Plus the shape makes it easier to just glide across the strings on both bass and guitar. Plus, most of my instruments are extended range with thicker gauge strings, so it’s nice to have more pick to help move those strings and not have to worry about the pick bending or being too noisy with the flat edges.
Many many rock and metal players use yellow .73 or similar... so take his words with a grain of salt. Use what feels best for you.
My favorite and yea I play metal with them
Purple can feel good, but those thick boys are like running up the stairs. If you’re off by just a bit you can get caught on a string and look like a moron.
.60 and .73 is where it's at for me. I've always found when teaching the guitar that a lot of beginning players gravitate towards heavier picks because they're easier to play with. Once they get a grip on nuance and pick attack they tend to move towards thinner picks to get a more controlled and nuanced sound from the strings.
Like Dave Mustaine from Megadeth he uses .73 dunlops and he shreds and plays some of the best Heavy Metal rhythm.
Many many rock and metal players are complete garbage too. I agree to use what feels best, but when an expert way above your level speaks, it's worth listening.
Love me some white Dunlop’s .38 when I play electric. Before that I was really digging the green mad dog .53mm picks. Not a fan of picks much thicker than that, it starts to feel weird to play for me.
Have a friend who plays electric guitar with a .3mm pick. Tried to use that pick and it felt practically unplayable to me as I'm used to a 1.5mm pick. Still it's interesting to me to see people play electric with a thin pick if only because it's so alien to me as a concept.
ha! i sharpen my whites,stick about 1mm out (like a stylus pic).. use the sides too :)
James Hetfield BLACK FANG, 1.14, doesn't feel thick at all because it has tapered edges. I use it for both electric and acoustic when I'm on a Gig!
Weird because I thought James was a huge green. 88 guy
@@INVERTEDBUKAKI No he's using sharp picks. Tortoise shell 1.14 during mop I think. Anyway, the black fang is based on the pick he had during mop era.
Ernie ball Prodigy 2.0mm picks are what I use, they have tapered edges too maybe you would want to try them
I use those too, they are really good
@@t3nshie I have those, those are good for like metal stuff, but when i do acoustics, there's a certain click from the ultex that i prefer. Black fangs to me are just extremely versatile and i need that for playing multiple genres
I play really fast punk rock on my bass so I use .60 Dunlop max grip.
I started experimenting with picks the day I got my first guitar. It seems strange to me to be uninterested in picks, it's 50% of your contact point with the guitar.
I played with the Big Stubby 3.0mm way back when, and still remember fondly the feeling of those against the string after having spent the first 2 weeks of learning guitar trying to dig into power chrods on one of those stupid fender mediums.
same boat, thick picks for life
but its 1.14 mms or .88s for me
The big stubby was always a hard one for me especially if I dig in too hard it would get stuck lol
It's not about just the gauge, it's about the material, density, the bevel of the edge, shape, size etc. Don't just stick to one company and don't be afraid of experimenting. The tortex dunplops used to be my go to but now I swear by the 2-3 mm Gravity sunrise shape.
You’re a freak
100%. Personally, I hate tortex. I don’t like the feel, they don’t grip well for me, and the .6 doesn’t flex much still. For acoustic I use .6mm Dunlop nylons. For electric I’m still feeling it out, but currently I’m liking Dunlop flows in thicker gauges.
100% crutch for me is floppy picks when I use my acoustic, almost as a natural compressor! I find a medium heavy offers a good natural gallop in alternate picking as I play WITH the flex and kinda piggy back off that give of lighter picks..73 max grip is my general all around pick I feel a good happy medium. I tend to struggle heavy picks with triplets as I think I'm used to working with the give of light picks and feels "stuck" for me.
TBH, when he uses the heavier picks on acoustic you cand definitely tell he is strumming and plucking way harder.
YES!
Jim Dunlop gang where u at
Green Tortex Sharp picks changed my playing
I like the purple sharps
i like the ultex sharps 1.14
Same with me. I started with the yellow sharps and now use the green sharps. They wear like iron.
Thats my go to pick
Weird…All I play is the yellow and find them super versatile: elec/acoustic/bass. One and done
Well that helps a lot actually. I've been playing with a .53 and I really had to fight to play anything heavy (How I learned Disposable Heroes I have no idea) but with a 1.0 everything's way better. Thanks again man!
Quite the opposite, I went from heavy picks when I started to much lighter gauges.. Also, keep in mind that there are quite a few guitar gods that DON'T use picks.. So to me, it's just a matter of taste, really
JimDunlop Jazz III almost 12 years and still love it.
John Petrucci's Jazz III's, beautiful. Was decent for bass too.
For bass players though, I can't recommend Dunlop's Big Stubby picks, 2mm for me. 2mm is thicker and heavier than any regular guitar pick, and it sounds nice too.
Great video once again!
I don't like the plastic they used for the Petrucci Jazz III. Too noisy.
@@JimVincent it's ultex
Thats my fav for guitar. Find it hard to use a flat pick these days...
Me, an intelligent, who plays bass with red/orange picks: _o b s e r v e_
Yes, for real - it gives more bright and "clicky" sound, and better for me to go for faster alternate picking (been using thicker picks earlier, and i was just lost somewhere in the middle, so thin picks are my boys)
I tried that when I first started playing bass and found that my plastic picks were getting destroyed left and right.
Hetfield black fang .94 are the best picks ever made
nope not at all
Damn I go with 2mm gauge, anyone else?
I use 1.5mm myself
I use a 2.5mm!
The guitarist of The Warning recently went from a 3mm to a 2mm.
Preferences change ...
35 years and I still only use the confetti fender picks when practicing. Heavies.
After shredding with those old pics I would get pic dust all over my strings and Pick ups. I am so glad picks have come a long way since the 80's when I started playing
A real player uses whatever is available and still kills it.
I've been using my fingers and dimes for 11 years. I 1000% agree with you
It’s definitely a personal feeling thing. I think you described the feelings perfectly. I used only .60 forever just because that’s what I started with. Wasn’t until I was given some custom picks that look and felt incredible. They were way thicker than I used but it was neat to try. Now I am experimenting with a bunch of different textures and thicknesses.
Totally agree with this. I used .60 and .73 picks all the time when I first started bc it just felt better but when I got into hard rock and metal I tried the stubby jazz 3.0mm and it was like a gateway opened up lol.
Fender's where the best. Especially when U put the bic lighter on them. These days 1.4mm, jazz ultex primetones for full shred.
Anything with the shape of a jazz 3 is my preference
Took me 10 years to figure out it’s nearly impossible to shred without a pointy pick like the jazz 3
Put a lighter on it? Excuse my ignorance, but ive never heard of this? What do you mean
@@HeathenwoodOfficialyou gotta try Dava Jazz 3 picks, so good.
@@AS34N they are made of celluloid and they burst into flame almost instantaneously
Ngl, I liked the sound of the 1.14 mm pick on the acoustic.
I went on a pick reevaluation journey about 3 years ago after 30+ years of playing. I just don’t like a “standard” pick shape. What sounds best and feels best (for me) is a Dunlop Flow Pick in either 1.14mm or 1.5mm. The shape is sort of like a bigger JazzIII. It has a nice point, and raised lettering which gives a nice grip. I have some in several thicknesses from aroun0.6mm to 3mm, and they all have a usefulness for specific things; though, I find the 1.14 to be the most versatile all-around thickness. I do also have a zippered ring display case of a number of other specialty picks ranging from acrylic for a chirpy attack to thick Gator Grip or 208 for dull traditional jazz tones to textured ones for various sound qualities.
I like the .6mm orange and even better the .6mm gray nylon with grip. I fling picks too damn often otherwise; sold in bags of 72, and the nylon is slippery against the strings.
Anything thicker, even on acoustic bass, seems excessive -- I like the pick to do the work of clearing the string, not my wrist.
.73 textured since 19-always. dont know how with a bass pick yins can play "machine gun" tremolo stuff. i get pinched harmonics are easier but, i like light gauge strings n picks. 🤔🍻
Its a jazz#3 for this metal head.
Dunlop greens and yellows probably my favorite. Also the Gator ones are probably just as good.
For years I had been playing with the green Dunlop .88s, until recently I randomly stumbled across a handful of the red Dunlop .50s in a shoebox in my room, and decided to give them a quick try. I play almost exclusively rhythm, like a lot of thrash metal, heavy downpicked stuff. Idk what it is, but I feel like my sound has gotten both cleaner, and believe it or not, heavier since I’ve started using the .50s. I feel like my downpicking sounds heavier, fast alternate picking sounds so much more articulate and pronounced. I naturally downpick really hard, so with the heavier picks, my downpicked notes sounded almost...flubby, for lack of a better word, same with alternate picking. Considering everything said in this video, my experience seems kinda backwards lol but it is what it is.
I comp this, I tried some heavier picks on electric, but I noticed the sound was not what I wanted and I recon it was due to my picking is somewhat hard, so for me Dunlop Maxigrip .88 gives me the best feel and sound, .73 is already too floppy and 1.0 too thick. In the end, I think the way you pick, angle, etc. plays great part as well the sound you get/prefer. There's no "one size fits all". With acoustic I prefer much more flimsy pick and .73 or less is much better. For strumming especially.
I play with 1.14mm almost since day 1 because I didn't like the flex and kept dropping the pick. Maybe I give a 1.00mm a shot in the future.
Edit: Therefore I would say it's not only about how thicc the pic is but also how tight or lose you hold them.
Thin picks makes the notes ring out kind of as if the treble was turned all the way up. Thick picks create more of a muffled effect in comparison. So I prefer picks that's a little past somewhere in the middle. Like a 0.70 - 0.75 mm. Not too heavy. Not too light.
I used to use a grey 1.1mm until I actually tried a red .50mm. A whole new world of new techniques were open to me after that.
I played guitar in a U2 tribute band for the longest time, and The Edge actually uses the grip part of the pick to play with (that's how he gets that distinctive attack on his notes). Now I can't play with the correct side of the pick and it drives me insane.
same - I can only use Herdim blues
It's quite satisfying to alternate pick with the grip part of the Herdim
@@Malady I actually found a much cheaper alternative that has the same attack. I'll try and find out what it's called. Got fed up of paying through the nose for Herdims.
Fun fact: The gauge of pick you use has no bearing on your skill level whatsoever.
I've been playing since 1990, and I'm still experimenting with pics.
Though I personally have never found any use for anything heavier than 1mm.
I like thinner, flexible picks preferably with some texture on them... thicker picks tend to fly out of my hands easily... I don't use anything thicker than a .73mm...
I ended up on the blue Dunlops. I'm a lead guitarist in a band that plays classic rock and country. I find they work well for those genres.
I use multiple pick gauges depending on what style I’m playing. It makes a huge difference 🙂
I'm working on this. I got a sample pack, because I'm really into math rock and hybrid picking. I've used Jazz 3, and 3mm purple Dunlops for years.
would you mind sharing some examples?
A few others have mentioned in the comments that the relation between puck and string gauge is important.
I typically run beefier gauge strings on my electrics and use thicker picks if in playing heavy rock/metal and anything in drop tunings, but i prefer comically light gauge picks when playing acoustic and playing anything clean in standard on electric.
Get a variety pack and play the same thingnwith every gauge and you will definitely notice a difference
Same with me
I honestly don't care for pick gauges. I just get one, and use it for all as long as it isn't very floppy. (I also cut cards when I can't find a pick. Anything as long as I can play.)
Yes. My playing improved overnight when I discovered the Jazz III pick.
too small - this picks for kids
Yeah i use the yellow,when i was learning how to play an Acoustic Guitar. My friend and i was doing random stuff,he found this yellow pick on the dumpster,he showed me and i said i need it. After the whole day i got home and i've played Come As You Are.
On the begging I played poorly, I didn't know how to use a pick,but with the time i got the way of how to use a pick,and now i can't play with my nails it feels so weird
Sorry, I expected more depth into Picks, I ll do an own Video further