Common Misconceptions About Awakening
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I was on a path to awakening for several years and finally had to walk away. It hasn’t been achievable for me (yes I get the irony in that) I don’t know how to get there, no matter what anyone says or advice they give. and it was starting to really mess with my daily life in a way that was miserable. If it’s meant to happen for me in this life it will, if not, I can’t dwell on it anymore. I’m exhausted. I know exactly what people will say about this but oh well. I still enjoy this channel and accept I’m too deeply entrenched in this dense illusion.
pauses are great. And sometimes you can be surprised when you stop trying too....
This is very common. The seeking mind is often more uncomfortable than the regular non-seeking state of delusion.
Breathe in a full and relaxed way, sense the stillness in all experience, the calm in all apparent disturbance. ❤
No one will ever get this, and if they say they do, run!
@@benhoffman7695why run? Why not love them? :)
The importance of what you care about cannot be understated. There's nothing wrong with changing your approach or your goals in life. I hope nobody gives you a hard time about this.
I mentioned this to a mentor/therapist about finding the root of the issue (related to trauma). He basically said that "how do you know there's a root?". That was helpful. He also mentioned thought is more like a "rhizome" than a root.
Hi Angelo
I do find your particular method of teaching very useful. Mostly because of your emphasis on shadow work. I am a fan of Jung, and as you are probably aware, shadow work is a big part of depth psychology. CGJ: A tree can not grow to heaven unless its roots grow to hell. It's not giving near the attention it deserves. Many spiritual teachers don't even acknowledge the importance of this or merely gloss over it. The big problem with the Jungian approach is that it's freaking complicated. I spent 100s of hours studying his stuff. From my personal experience, I find your approach far more efficient. In Jung's method, in order to approach the Self, you must first confront your shadow, among other things (Anima, Animas Persona... ). For people with strong mind/body identities, this can be extremely difficult if not impossible.
By approaching the Self first using some form of self inquiry and achieving kensho, you don't have to dig for your shadow. It hunts you down, and you have no choice. In the Jungian method, you do have a choice. If it gets too uncomfortable, you can just quit doing shadow work. You will still have the support of all your selfing mechanisms still in place in order to avoid those difficult emotions to some degree.
Don't get me wrong, I still find his methods useful and do use them from time to time to remove those hard to get out stains, but for the most part, I don't think it's all that necessary.
This is just an interesting historical side note. When Jung was visiting India, a close friend of his urged him to go see Sri Ramana. Jung declined. In a letter to his friend explaining why he didn't visit Ramana, I found his explanation curiously lame. It was highly unlike him. I researched a lot of his work, and I found him to be a open minded and deliberate man. I have often wondered if he intuited a meeting with Ramana would have challenged his life's work.
Anyway, thanks.
Rob
rob, I went through a phase where I was very interested in Young as well and I read that about his visit with Romano too. My feeling is that yes he believed it would have messed up his work for lack of a much better way to put it lol but that was my feeling.
@@katehiggins9940 Hi Kate
I appreciate your reply. I re-read my post and realized that perhaps my intentions could be misunderstood. So just for the record and my utmost respect for the man, I hope I didn't sound to anyone like I was disparaging Jung. It would be incredibly arrogant of me to dismiss his work. His insight into the psyche, l believe, is nothing short of genius. His understanding of the human dilemma is profound, yet his solution to that dilemma may be overly complicated, and if they met, perhaps Ramana would have pointed that out to him. That was my feeling.
Many thanks
Rob
@@StayAwake4Goodi did not take your comment to be disparaging of Jung at all. I was very interested in Jung for a good while. I had a Jungian analyst for about 6 months then ironically met a man from India who did shaktipat and that lead to Ramana🤪 So I was interested in their meeting as well. I think Jung was such a pioneer in the science of psychology that perhaps it was either too threatening or uninteresting to him to change course….🤷♀️ as if there’s a course
@katehiggins9940
I didn't think you did. I was concerned that anyone else following this thread may have misinterpreted me. Like I said, I re-read my post and thought it was a little vague. Anyways, I was probably overthinking it, and more than likely, it's just me you on this thread anyway. LOL. Probably much about nothing.
Best Regards
Rob
The other day, I glimpsed "no self" and I was like "Aw... crap." It was like a "GAME OVER" moment of shock. There was no self here, there were no selves anywhere, and there never had been. Not at any point in time, ever. It was alright for a bit and then I got really sad and lonely and I thought "No, I don't actually want this. I'm not ready for this." And now I am successfully back in the VR world where I feel comfortable living in delusion. LOL. Obviously, I can't fully forget. But I can pretend. 😅 For now...
This is a slow process for me. I still find times where I feel very mind identified and others that I know peace. It is helpful to hear that this process will have pain and suffering, it is shadow work that seems so daunting to me. I just need to remember that thoughts are not real, they are a reflection of my inner world.
@iami… throw away the scorecard and checklist. Drop all expectations. Allow and accept all.
@@cps_Zen_Run thank you, that is a good reminder. I need to remember i am resisting and need to allow things to be as they are.
The Unfulfilled Self seeking to be Fulfilled. The Moment, Here, is already Perfect. A Seeking Path, doesn’t bring One closer to Here. At the end of seeking, regardless of the months or years, is the returning to this Moment and Here.
Thank you for being so clear. You keep helping me focus on the simplicity.
WOW!!! LOVE THIS!!! THANX SO MUCH! THIS REALLY HIT HOME!!! JUST LOVE EVERYTHING YOU SPOKE ON!!! MUCH LOVE XXXXX
I like this discussion because there is a supreme simplicity to this. It is a shift out of identity and that is basically all of it. Suffering only becomes more obvious. Knowing this there is a deep peace!
Nisargadatta also died of cancer (of the the throat--he apparently was a life-long smoker, a habit that awakening didn't "cure"). His final talks/dialogues (e.g., in Consciousness and the Absolute) are quite, well, enlightening because he often mentions unbearable pain and weakness (though, he evidently didn't suffer). By all accounts, the awakened life is quite prosaic--which makes it a worthwhile goal all the more.
Great reminder, Thank you 💎🙏🏻🌊
I think meditation is helpfull, but especially to be prepared when it happens.
I beg to differ-I teleport quite often. 🤣 Seriously, though, these are great points. The first wave of that in-your-face emotion is quite startling after all the bliss. It’s helpful to have others who’ve been through this. Thank you, as always! 😊
It's so funny that, when I lost my religion at age 14, I sat there waiting to see if I would suddenly turn into a covetous, adulterous, idol-worshipping murderer. Thirty years later, it still hasn't happened.
And yet, right now, I'm facing the same fear again. If there is absolutely no morality, if there are absolutely no principles, if absolutely anything goes (if it flows with the universe), how do I know I won't give myself over to the universe only to find out I'm a completely selfish, unrepentent a--hole? Or worse, how do I know I won't fool myself into using any incipient insight I glean as an excuse to be awful? How will I even know?
I know. These are just thoughts. Stories. Identity trying to cling to any toe-hold it can. But I felt the bottom starting to fall out the other day, and I just had no idea how far it might go or what might happen. A psychotic break felt like a genuine possibility. The fear is real.
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I was promised I get lower gas prices after awakening, is this not true?
Oh actually that part is true.
@SimplyAlwaysAwake Okay great 👌 😂
5:58 where is that ball park
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When investigating Non-Dual, for instance in the visual field, and there is shift into a state whereby the subject-object construct vanishes ...is this synonymous with 'awakening'?
Not exactly but it is one aspect of it for sure
The part about past lives kinda puzzled me. I mean there's not even a past, so what do you mean by past lives?
This is why it is hard to talk about. Can you imagine/understand causality without time?
I’m kinda scared shitless of all the “past lives/distant consciousness etc” talk, can’t fathom one single way this type of things can be enticing for someone, it’s turning me off from it, maybe due to the fact there were some bizarre things after “initial awakening” for “me”. So it’s kind of inducing these “well that basically means I might go insane in literal medical way” types of doubts and concerns.
The concept of a past life alludes me considering there is no past. In a relative sense one might say there are past lives, but they don’t belong to anyone here now.
Last night in bed, I rolled over from my left side to my right side and couldn’t conceive of me ever having been on my left side. It was non existent. So where are these past lives?
I can imagine seeing into other realms, NOW. A former Zen teacher used to talk about that.
But to me, the only thing that matters is presence.
@pur… The Mind establishes a separate, free willed, Self, that is lacking and incomplete. These are all an illusion. Consciousness and Being effortlessly arising, unrestrained by Time and Space. Undeniable, unexplainable. Perfect.
Past lives can seemingly arise as thoughts and memories, but how are they different from this life? Its the same phenomena. Can be a bit destabilising but you get used to it.
@@Ryan-DempseyWhat language would thoughts from a past life be? Not English I’d imagine.
@@cps_Zen_RunExcept there’s no free will at all.
Krishnamurti said he's seen Siddhis like levitation, and Eckhart Tolle says he believes that one day humanity may be able to move literal mountains with literally just thoughts.
Are they just deluded, do you think?
Maybe you should battle them to find out who's right. I'm sure they won't be much of a challenge for you. Especially Krishnamurti, seeing how dead he's been these past few years.
Well maybe he can use the reanimation Siddhi and fight me
@@SimplyAlwaysAwakeBut seriously (idk why I made a dumb joke out of it) do you think he was just fooled?
@@manso306personally yes I do. Watch videos of Sai Baba for instance there are a ton out there showing him doing (not very good) sleight of hand but many swear he had siddhis . There are so many examples
@@SimplyAlwaysAwakeYes there are lots of examples and I'm not being fooled by Uri Geller types, but still I keep clinging to the notion that there is some "supernatural" stuff that can be "realized" or whatever. They're difficult to recall in detail for some reason, but sometimes I see synchronicities that are just... absolutely wild. A psychiatrist might point to e.g. (excess) dopamine creating meaning where there is none, but isn't that always the case even in a "healthy" mind? I mean from a physical perspective we're all just bunches of particles bumping around, calling ourselves "people" and these squiggles "words" and whatever.
Nisargadatta had cancer too..
It seems that I’m doing a lot of Shadow work before awakening- at least I do not seem to be aware of an identity shift-don’t know and not sure it really matters if I know or not. If someone does do a lot shadow work before a shift will much, much more still come up after?
somehow shadow work done properly, there is already a sense of Being that is not the person, or at least, you can take some distance, feel into emotions, body, and as such, it's very useful!
@@nbenda yes I do feel sone distance and just be the emotion. I’m just wondering if I’ll have a lot more of the work after an identity shift because it is difficult work.
@@chrishayes4732 that's mind looking into future.... I don't know. But I know people that had a deep awakening and had a lot of issues. And so, maybe a more gradual opening, who knows. It depends on so many factors, and anyway, the whole work is never ending.... So, from a fellow, I motivate you to go on without measuring how much more. Nothing is useless, all your work is important.
Do you already feel lighter?
@@nbenda lighter. I really don’t have an answer but what I can say is that certain situations that used to trigger me no longer trigger me.
@@chrishayes4732 wonderful!
If I do a ton of shadow work before awakening will it make the "dark night of the soul phase" after awakening less dark ? Thx
yes
Hi Angelo. What I'm still confused about is this: On one hand it's said that liberation is the end of suffering, but on the other hand it's also said that the emotional release goes on forever as one encounters different situations in life.
So I guess ones capacity to be with those emotions without resistance increases more and more, right? But does also the emotional release slow down or plateau at some point, so that in 99% of situations there's just the peace?
Is the spontaneous movement in the body during meditation related to TRE that you often mention in your videos.
Head.. shoulders… legs… body… no telling what will start shaking and just as quickly stop… not resisting it snd just letting it do it’s stuff…
Thank you.
Yes it's all related
Great.. thank you so much for your reply 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Question, is there any difference between Buddhist awakening and Hindu awakening, if so, what is it?
No , but descriptions and emphasis are often different
Is it all unicorns and rainbows?
Definitely ;)
@george… Perhaps the biggest obstacle prohibiting being Awake or Enlightened, IMHO, is thinking that we are not already.
There are tons of Unicorns, but no rainbows strangely
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake remembering the fruit stripe gum zebra....
Damn, I only seem to see pink elephants😊
Its like now there's the "anti teacher" crowd and "anti practice" crowd. But, if you really hear what the likes of tony parsons say, they aren't saying don't practice. I actually called Tony one day and said to him, "so, are you saying that spirituality is nonsense" and he nearly bit my head off lol. Also, most, if not all of these advaita speakers, if you read their history, did some sort of practice.
Most of the people that say about "nobody here, nothing to do", are usually the ones that never speak in these zoom meetings or engage these speakers directly. They just listen or read the books.
I've heard Tony say more than once when someone asks about inquiry, "Yeah but who is there to inquire?" I've heard him and Newman criticize spiritual teachers many times including by name. Yes the message can be powerful but it also can be deceptive and many have been effected negatively by this. It can be particularly harmful to someone who tends to disassociate. It is a real phenomenon: ruclips.net/video/BDTGO-tqzUk/видео.htmlsi=hap07dCTIQ7eNjYK
@SimplyAlwaysAwake Not attempting to bash anyone, but I find Newman to be completely unrelatable in his style. He just says no one is here, nothing is happening, nothing nothing nothing. It's like he can't give an actual answer. Maybe that works for some people but not for me 🤷🏼
@cautionupahead See this is exactly the kind of thing that is frustrating lol
It just seems like a hyper fixation on nothingness