Chris Broussard to Rob Parker: “When are you gonna to stop yelling?” *Rob Parker stops talking* Chris Broussard: Proceeds to yell and screech like a drunkard.
Chris is yelling too much, Rob is the rational one. Even though Rob's take is usually out of the norm, but he will continue with an reasonable argument. Chris rejects any different opinion right off the bat.
Curry doesn't 'NEED' a Finals MVP, but it would help his case as being an all-time top 5-10 player because most NBA fans only look at box scores, accolades, and hardware. They also listen to narratives driven by the media more often than actually watching the games deeply, and analyzing what they see. Curry's career is only halfway over. As of right now in my eyes when putting him in the all-time conversation, his floor is top 25-40 player of all-time and his ceiling is somewhere between top 10-15 of all-time. The thing is he still has AT MINIMUM a good 3-6 prime years left to build upon his existing accomplishments 💍💍💍
Yeah and looking at the box score for curry's career isn't fair he was very injury prone his first few years so he was no where to this level. If you look at the last 6 years of curry's career you have a strong case to say this a top 5 stretch from any player in nba history. Jordan would have 4 titles and 3 mvps and a dpoy. But also a 2 year break etc. The only player who I would definitely had a better 6 year stretch is wilt where he scored a minimum of 30 pts a game throughout those years but he didn't win so.
@ATL 1 he did not play up to par forsure, but keep in mind he had 3 or 4 mfs on him, who in history was ever gaurded like dat, but no excuse raps was solid
All I can say to Rob is, if you asked any team in the NBA, if they had the option, "Would you want Steph, the no show in playoffs, non-finals MVP, on your team tomorrow?" They would all say, "HELL EFFING YES!!!"
Chris, thank you for highlighting Steph PS averages. The "PERCEIVED" problem that everyone has with Steph is that he has set the bar so high that any thing less of what is normal to "HIM" is perceived as "he under performed" especially in the playoffs when things slow down. But as you rightfully shown to us Chris, the avgs compared to the greats should speak of this man's greatness and his legacy. With or without a FMVP, Streph's legacy would be, " HE CHANGED THE GAME" ------ bottom line!
Lets be clear! U dont get to discredit KDs rings and turn around and not reciprocate that same energy to the rest of GS when using their multiple rings to boost their legacies. CHRIS BROUSSARD. If KDs rings dont count, neither do the rings the warriors won with him. So they technically only have 1 ring.
U dont have the right to get on live TV and say there’s an asterisk by KDs rings and then refer to steph, klay, dray etc. as 3x champs. If KD has an asterisk, so do the rest of them niggas. Apart from the 2015 finals.
that's dumb! Chris is saying all along they didn't need KD. Dubs should've won it in '16 when dray got suspended for game 5, bogut got hurt and iggy got hurt. steph was already compromised.
MVP would help. But u bet the Warriors will be in the finals again and again. There are more opportunities to be had. Something tells me Klay might be in the running for MVP. Depending on who's guarding who.
@@OwlxArt Kawhi will guard draymond green. If kawhi is guarding klay or Steph it will be hard for him to score 25+ points on the offensive end because it isn't like giannis where it is about strength klay and Steph it is about off ball movement and that will be tiring. Kawhi will guard green to try and prevent him from scoring 15 point and getting 8 assists plus it would make the curry green pick and roll harder. Green will probably guard curry and lowry will guard klay.
@@OwlxArt Kawhi saves his energy for the 2nd half except he scores like 5 points in the 4th quarter in 5 out 13 games since the 76ers series. That is unacceptable. Kawhi probably won't guard Steph as it will cause a mismatch with lowry. Whilst klay isnt a great post scorer he has worked on it throughout the year and I think he can certainly score 8-10 points with lowry on him. Klay is 7 inches taller.
Joseph Webley I don’t know what stat you’re looking at but he usually scorer 10+ in 3rd alone every game. He never scored 5 points in the entire second half for 5 games. He does his most damage in 3rd.
@The Life Analyst saying your opinion CAN make you delusional if you are delusional lol. And Rob havin the right to criticize players mean the "fanboys" also have the right to defend them without bein considered a "fanboy". Maybe they objective sports fans.
@@waltjones6927 no it's delusional how everyone down plays KD and how ridiculously great he is the disrespect on Durant is delusional like he didn't help make them a juggernaut 3 years in a row
@The Life Analyst yea I love steph but to say he's better than KD is just plan ignorance but it's OK for media and fans to have this narrative that KD doesn't matter but yet because of him they have won 2 championships back to back
@@eddierivers3250 they was already a juggernaut before KD.. you dont remember how they used to embarass EVERYBODY in the NBA except Bron/Kyrie?? They destroyed Kd in the regular season and playoffs bro.. Kd is a better all around player but u cant join a 73 win team and claim to be the sole reason for their success
I mean seriously how does someone average 25 points in the finals and still get slammed with disrespect for not getting a finals mvp even though in the first finals he should have won it over iggy 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Who else has been to 5 straight finals? Won 73 games in a season? 403 3s in a season? Greatest impact on the game since Wilt Chamberlain. Its just hardware.. "They dont make no awards for that"
Rod Wells Hell no how you the most important player on your team and not the mvp. Imagine if scottie pippen was mvp instead of mj or Chris bosh instead of lebron
You are insane. Curry has had excellent finals if you exclude 2016 where he was injured, fouled out of game and then half the fouls were rescinded curry has averaged 27 7 and 7 in the finals. You cannot hold the 2016 defeat against curry because the warriors had 2 injured key players aside form an injured Steph. Bogut was completely out and iguodala wasn't 100%, green then got suspended, the warriors then had a 7 game series before and had pushed themselves all out to win 73 games in the regular season. That is very clearly not his fault.
Chris saying they dont look at Magic without Kareem but he always trying to look at KD without the Warriors. Its a team game and nobody has won a chip by themselves. This aint tennis
i cant think of a single all time great player (excluding the guy who the award is named after) who didnt win at least one finals mvp. yeah guys like magic, kareem, and kobe didnt always win the award but they did win it at least once. maybe im forgetting someone but i really cant think of an all time great player who never won it. i mean it depends how you define all time great but lets say we made a list of the top 15 or 20 nba players of history. how many of them dont have a finals mvp excluding ones who played most of their career before it was introduced as an award?
@@jjjayden8964 i guess erving is an example but he did play a decent amount of his career in the ABA. kidd was a great player but i dont think most people would rate him anywhere close to top 20.
That’s idiotic to compare shooting percentages for people from different eras. There are more possessions and people are shooting way more threes.. no hand check.
These young guys can never be themselves because they will always get compare to older players back in the day it’s so sad that there this much pressure on kids to be players you use to watch smh damn same.
Think about this: 2015 finals, there is no Green and Thompson only plays game 1. Lebron has a healthy team and they only win 4:2, and Lebron doesn't win the finals MVP. 😂 C'mon man the media would crusify Lebron and you know it, so don't blame Rob for throwing a little shade on Curry, it's only fair
What legacy you talking about ? The one he already has and still building further ? The 2 times MVP and one of the best, if not the best handsdown, shooter of all time ? What legacy you talking abouuut?
They stole Steph 2015 finals mvp no debate. Also let’s not act like winning it is everything. Kobe 3 under Shaq isn’t less impressive but he wouldn’t be considered close to where I have him ranked w/o the 2 he did win. Curry career is capped off with a legit fmvp though💯
THANK YOU CHRIS! This narrative that he doesn’t show up in the Finals is bogus. Not having a FMVP in Steph’s case shouldn’t take away from his greatness; he balled out but KD had slightly better stats; that not his fault. Curry gonna show the haters this time.
chris you comparing Curry's ave points per finals game agaist Larry and MJ? The rules and pace of game was very different and you know this guy. Sit down
@@boricuafrican1 your point? Kobe last two championships the NBA game was more about the mid range and iso. Now it's all about shooting 3's and ball movement. The point is Jordan avg 30 in a season doing it the hard way as opposed to players like Harden shooting 3's and flopping.
Steph should've won in 2015. The Warriors don't win that series without Curry, and it's not even close. Iggy was indeed impactful throughout the series, but Curry was the most consistent and BEST player for the Warriors. LeBron was shooting poorly for the series with or without Iggy -- his defense certainly helped. The Warriors don't win game one without Curry or games 4-6. He averaged ten more points per game than the next closest Warrior. The media members got it wrong; they were so hellbent on awarding LBJ Finals MVP that they gave it to Iggy instead. I remember every other day ESPN was shoving LBJ for finals MVP down our throats by always mentioning Jerry West. Again, I'm not sighting Iggy because he was the 3rd best player on the floor in the series and games 4-6, he was nearly as impactful as Curry.
exactly how can anyone be considered the goat with only 1 mvp. No disrespect to the great Kobe Bryant, but when the competition is close 4 mvp's to 1 seals the deal.
Whatever. curry already had a great career with or without fmvp and nothing could take that away regardless of who says what ! nothing will change how we feel about him as warriors fans and that's enough
He does not need any of that MVP or whatever... Kevin can have all the MVP's he wants but just know that without Curry and the Warriors he wouldn't even smell one let alone touch one... A championship is a lot more important than a MVP.
It is customary to try to pick out one player and make them great because we still have Michael Jordan withdraws but what they fail to realize the reason why you can't make curry as great as you want to, even though he is great, because they play great TEAM BALL. the greatest team we've seen. AND each one of those pieces need each other. you can't do anything without clay without Draymond and without Steph. those three together is amazing
Yeah but arguably klay and draymond couldn't do anything without Steph. Curry could probably be Damien lillard or James harden without draymond or klay. Just putting up numbers without winning big.
@@tonetone111222 Yeah curry needs his team but if MJ didn't have Pippen he wouldn't have won anything either. He never won a playoff series without Pippen so you can't say that about Steph. Without saying that about mj.
@@moto2442 mj would take the last shot curry relies on his team. Or MORE RELIABLE because he was bigger. Look, i like curry and he's my favorite but his game is relies on the OTHERS more than Jordan
@@tonetone111222 Yes jordan was great but Scott Paxton and Steve kerr made some of the biggest shots in his career. On top of that Pippen took the bulls team to CF without mj and probably would have got to the finals if it wasn't for a bad call. Could draymond and klay do that? Jordan flat out had a better team if you take out mj curry and KD. I'm not knocking mj as 6 titles without defeat is impressive but you can't say he did it all by himself. You also have Ron harper, Dennis rodman and artis gilmore all players who were dpoy candidates and all of them who deserved to be on all defensive teams. Mj still made the shot and scored a nba finals game winner but it doesn't change the help he had. Kareem won with big O and Magic but didn't reach the playoffs 2 years in a row in the middle of his prime. LeBron reached the before miami but failed to win and lost to the big 3 celtics in the conference finals. Magic never won a fi als without Kareem. He was brilliant in game 6 his first year but he was then Tragic the next. Every single one of the all time greats relied on their teammates as much as curry except lebron. The rest of them had a much better number 2 and didn't have to compete against another top 5 player of all time. Curry has only struggled for stretches in the playoffs when he is injured (or KD was scoring 35+ for 8 straight games - but that wasn't curry's fault he was still averaging 23). Curry occasionally lats an egg but he is also the catyst for the best or 2nd best offense ever and is an underated passer and defender.
Lol poor rob can get pushback during his soliloquy but God forbid u give chris pushback during his rant, he throw a hissy fit lol..and i love chris, but damn!!
Sooooooo, you trying to tell me that if the Warriors win and Steph doesn't win the Finals MVP it's taints his legacy? Nonsense!!! That would mean he has 4 championships in 5 years, a threepeat, 2 regular season MVP's, regarded as the greatest shooter the game has ever seen, probably the alltime 3 point shooter, First ballot hall of famer and arguably the 2nd or 3rd best point guard to ever play the game. And just because he doesn't win a Finals MVP his legacy would not be cemented. MISS ME WITH THAT NONSENSE.
@@Belliones Respectfully, we are not talking about Steph in the GOAT conversation. We are talking about his legacy. Many believe that his legacy is already cemented as one of the alltime greats. He doesn't need a Finals MVP to prove that. That would just be nice icing on an already delicious cake.
You realize Steve Nash has more league MVP'S than Kobe, Dwade, KD and Dirk. So sometimes league MVP is nothing more than a popularity contest. Finals MVP mean you're the best when it really counts, while achieving the ultimate goal.
@@fmvp6892 that's my point. Even those years Jordan won championships he didn't win league MVP ever year. Tell me what play was better then Jordan during that span? The truth is people did vote him as league MVP because they personally didn't like him but in MVP vote people can't hidden their bias.
@@fmvp6892 what I'm saying is those years he didn't, look at who won? Did they really have a better season than Jordan, nope. So winning league MVP doesn't automatically make you the best player that year in the league.
Robs lack of logic astounds me. I'm sorry, but choking in the third round is much worse than choking in the finals... because... you know, you have to get to the finals to choke there? Lol There is absolutely no world in which Steph Curry bringing his team to the NBA finals and losing is worse than KD bringing his team to the third round and losing. That's an insane sentiment to hold.
@@GamingWithGino exactly. According to Rob, Kevin Durant and okc dropping that series to Golden State is better for Durant than winning that series and losing the next... that's just stupidity, plain and simple.
@@CGoody564 Yeah I never understood that type of argument. It's the same thing they apply towards LeBron making 8 straight finals, as if it will be better to lose in the 2nd round rather than the finals lmao.
@@GamingWithGino people already talk about his legacy. If Rob thinks never making it to the finals to lose somehow improves ones legacy, hes a moron. Hell, rings aren't enough for rob. If you haven't won a finals mvps, your legacy is trash apparently
Broussard doesnt understand...stats dont win titles, ask russell westbrook. My reason for not giving curry the all-time nod is because he is really a 1-trick pony, All he can do is shoot, if his shot isnt fallin hes MIA. Players like klay still defends @ a high level & many other players in the league are the same way...they bring more to table. I have to see steph carry w/o the luxury of 4 other superstars.
@@boricuafrican1 im not saying dont look @ stats im just saying dont have stats as your only justification bcuz Russell Westbrook stats says hes a top 5 all-time player. You have to use the "eye test" as well and steph isnt 'dominate' if his shot is off
People hate facts...fact is the last time we saw Curry without Durant, he was choking a 3-1 lead!!! FACTS!!! They wouldn't have the last 2 rings without Durant!!
I don't know why a finals mvp is important. If you're a HOFer, you're a HOFer, period. Especially with multiple championships.These 2 guys have the loudest studio in sports. Good show tho.
FMVP is important because the top 10 players by the masses all have at least 1 FMVP. Stephs legacy is set already as an all time great but getting that FMVP would enhance his legacy and he becomes one of 8 players to have multiple titles, multiple reg season mvps and fmvp hardware. It would be hard not to include him in the top 10 once he gets that FMVP.
Defenders Win Finals MVPs. Steph Curry Is Not One KD Had To Guard LeBron In 2017 & 2018 LeBron Had To Guard Everybody In 2016 Iggy Had To Guard LeBron In 2015 Kawhi Had To Guard LeBron In 2014 LeBron Had To Guard Kawhi In 2013 LeBron Had To Guard KD In 2012 I'm Just Saying The Precedence Has Been Set.
I've always said that FMVP's are a little overrated. Just because you don't have a FMVP it doeasn't mean you aren't a dominant Finals performer. For example Kobe has played in 7 total Finals and has 2 FMVP's, but overall averages 25, 6 and 5 for those Finals and i've always said Kobe is one of the most overrated Finals performers of all time while Steph is one of the most underrated Finals performers of all time. For his 5 finals that Curry has played in he averages 27, 6 and 6 ! While shooting a higher FG%, 3P%, FT% and having a bigger impact than Kobe but i mean it is what it is. Still a top 20 player of all time
Mannnnn if Steph dont win finals mvp that's gone look real suspect lol before KD I seen him get shut down & not show up a few games in them first 2 finals ! & playin wit KD was a cake walk neither 1 of them proved nothin tbh..but if they win this without KD & steph get finals MVP I'll respect that
You know else looks kinda suspect is that KD couldn't beat Curry when he was in OKC 😂 don't forget about that. KD is great of course, but people make it seem like Curry's Warriors were barely a 40 win team that couldn't come up big in ANY playoff series versus ANY all time great players and teams 🤔
Not really that mean you were the best player on the court when it counted. Now league MVP is overrated. There no way possible that Steve Nash should have more MVP'S than Kobe, Dwade or Dirk. It really a popularity contest. Just look at how people decided not to vote for Jordan between 92-98, really what player in the league was better than Jordan during those years.
Since when did RUclips start doing double ads?🤔
@Javier smith lol
It's disgusting
Chris Broussard to Rob Parker:
“When are you gonna to stop yelling?”
*Rob Parker stops talking*
Chris Broussard:
Proceeds to yell and screech like a drunkard.
He's turned into Stephen A. Broussard with the yelling
Chris is yelling too much, Rob is the rational one. Even though Rob's take is usually out of the norm, but he will continue with an reasonable argument. Chris rejects any different opinion right off the bat.
This show is too good lmao.
Chris stay screaming. "I always know what I have in front of my mouth."
Pat L best show to me
The 1st 2min ☠☠☠😂😂😂.. rob was trying to be slick and chris caught on real fast
55 secs in: “I always know what’s in front of my mouth”
Me: tf going on..
@JSway 24 kinda gross thinking about it but to each his own.
I love how ghetto Chris Broussard gets on this show compared to when he is a guests on other shows.
Gtfoh with that ghetto shit
@@MichaelP-ke1tm he worded it wrong but FOH that ant no damn compliment how is someone being ghetto a positive?
@@eddierivers3250
Ghetto Broussard is funny
You guys in the media really need to stop comparing numbers from previous eras to the modern era. The game is completely different now.
Rob been drinking that hateraid along with Barkley, Nick, CC, and Shannon...
Y’all Need to put these two on TELEVISION!!!
They both are as guests
Curry doesn't 'NEED' a Finals MVP, but it would help his case as being an all-time top 5-10 player because most NBA fans only look at box scores, accolades, and hardware. They also listen to narratives driven by the media more often than actually watching the games deeply, and analyzing what they see. Curry's career is only halfway over. As of right now in my eyes when putting him in the all-time conversation, his floor is top 25-40 player of all-time and his ceiling is somewhere between top 10-15 of all-time. The thing is he still has AT MINIMUM a good 3-6 prime years left to build upon his existing accomplishments 💍💍💍
Yeah and looking at the box score for curry's career isn't fair he was very injury prone his first few years so he was no where to this level. If you look at the last 6 years of curry's career you have a strong case to say this a top 5 stretch from any player in nba history. Jordan would have 4 titles and 3 mvps and a dpoy. But also a 2 year break etc.
The only player who I would definitely had a better 6 year stretch is wilt where he scored a minimum of 30 pts a game throughout those years but he didn't win so.
ladies and gentlemen do y’all understand kawhi leonard is balling out in NEW BALANCE. legendary
Until curry droped 50 to unbalance the series
kb lasalle wtf you talking about
kb lasalle 👀😂🤣👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 very clever
@ATL 1 he did not play up to par forsure, but keep in mind he had 3 or 4 mfs on him, who in history was ever gaurded like dat, but no excuse raps was solid
@ATL 1 i guess they mean meat n bones
Rob Parker really hates Steph curry, Lebron, and Tom Brady 😂
All I can say to Rob is, if you asked any team in the NBA, if they had the option, "Would you want Steph, the no show in playoffs, non-finals MVP, on your team tomorrow?" They would all say, "HELL EFFING YES!!!"
Chris, thank you for highlighting Steph PS averages. The "PERCEIVED" problem that everyone has with Steph is that he has set the bar so high that any thing less of what is normal to "HIM" is perceived as "he under performed" especially in the playoffs when things slow down. But as you rightfully shown to us Chris, the avgs compared to the greats should speak of this man's greatness and his legacy. With or without a FMVP, Streph's legacy would be, " HE CHANGED THE GAME" ------ bottom line!
Lets be clear! U dont get to discredit KDs rings and turn around and not reciprocate that same energy to the rest of GS when using their multiple rings to boost their legacies.
CHRIS BROUSSARD.
If KDs rings dont count, neither do the rings the warriors won with him. So they technically only have 1 ring.
U dont have the right to get on live TV and say there’s an asterisk by KDs rings and then refer to steph, klay, dray etc. as 3x champs.
If KD has an asterisk, so do the rest of them niggas. Apart from the 2015 finals.
That’s very true
@@20gangtay78 u right
20GANGTAY Facts
that's dumb! Chris is saying all along they didn't need KD. Dubs should've won it in '16 when dray got suspended for game 5, bogut got hurt and iggy got hurt. steph was already compromised.
MVP would help. But u bet the Warriors will be in the finals again and again. There are more opportunities to be had. Something tells me Klay might be in the running for MVP. Depending on who's guarding who.
I could see Klay getting the MVP if Kawhi is Curry’s primary defender. There isn’t 2 Kawhis so one of them is going to go off.
@@OwlxArt Kawhi will guard draymond green. If kawhi is guarding klay or Steph it will be hard for him to score 25+ points on the offensive end because it isn't like giannis where it is about strength klay and Steph it is about off ball movement and that will be tiring. Kawhi will guard green to try and prevent him from scoring 15 point and getting 8 assists plus it would make the curry green pick and roll harder. Green will probably guard curry and lowry will guard klay.
Joseph Webley he is going to guard them in the 4th. He usually tries conserve his energy for the second half
@@OwlxArt Kawhi saves his energy for the 2nd half except he scores like 5 points in the 4th quarter in 5 out 13 games since the 76ers series. That is unacceptable.
Kawhi probably won't guard Steph as it will cause a mismatch with lowry. Whilst klay isnt a great post scorer he has worked on it throughout the year and I think he can certainly score 8-10 points with lowry on him. Klay is 7 inches taller.
Joseph Webley I don’t know what stat you’re looking at but he usually scorer 10+ in 3rd alone every game. He never scored 5 points in the entire second half for 5 games. He does his most damage in 3rd.
Bro whose here after Steph won finals mvp ?
“They watched the same damn Finals you watched and they thought Steph wasn’t the MVP.....I hate to break it to you.”😂😂😂
Chris, you are so right! Go Warriors!
Lemme guess. When rob talks about Lebron , he’s funny. But when he talks about Steph “HES A CLOWN “. Lmao.
@The Life Analyst hes delusional in every topic that he discusses lol he represents for the "slow fans"
@The Life Analyst saying your opinion CAN make you delusional if you are delusional lol. And Rob havin the right to criticize players mean the "fanboys" also have the right to defend them without bein considered a "fanboy". Maybe they objective sports fans.
@@waltjones6927 no it's delusional how everyone down plays KD and how ridiculously great he is the disrespect on Durant is delusional like he didn't help make them a juggernaut 3 years in a row
@The Life Analyst yea I love steph but to say he's better than KD is just plan ignorance but it's OK for media and fans to have this narrative that KD doesn't matter but yet because of him they have won 2 championships back to back
@@eddierivers3250 they was already a juggernaut before KD.. you dont remember how they used to embarass EVERYBODY in the NBA except Bron/Kyrie?? They destroyed Kd in the regular season and playoffs bro.. Kd is a better all around player but u cant join a 73 win team and claim to be the sole reason for their success
Chris need his own show on fs1 he’s to good at this !!!
I respect Steph, finals mvp or no finals mvp. He's changed the game regardless
Militarize nah he needs a finals mvp ... that’s embarrassing .. 0 and KD has 2 finals mvp and igoudala has 1
Lol Chris stole Shannons points about Steph averaging more points than those players lol
Isaiah Richardson it’s a fun fact I think people should know about though.
You guys are hilarious! Keep it going.
Pro-tip: the volume is kind of low so turn up the volume and/or listen to head-phones I suggest
Someone always slidin in on Curry finals mvp
2015 A.I
2017 KD
2018 KD
2019 Kawhi
That klaw machine broke
nastradamus over here.
Just let chris talk and let rob sit back plz 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Parker: "I dont know!"
yeah, that's pretty obvious.
Most hated players
1.Lebron
2. Steph
3. KD
4. Kobe
All 4 are amazing players but get little to no credit smh
DJQuan718 Steph is not hated
LeBron gets a huge amount of credits. A little too much
@@aghazi94 he gets just as much hate..you just see all the love because you focused on hatin him
@@waltjones6927 i don't hate him. I just see his name 10 times everyday on ESPN
@@aghazi94 and 5 outta them 10 times they mention him somebody hating lol
I mean seriously how does someone average 25 points in the finals and still get slammed with disrespect for not getting a finals mvp even though in the first finals he should have won it over iggy 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Iggy deserved finals MVP because James didn't do that damage against him, he did it against everyone but him.
Who else has been to 5 straight finals? Won 73 games in a season? 403 3s in a season? Greatest impact on the game since Wilt Chamberlain. Its just hardware.. "They dont make no awards for that"
Warriors hiding that KD toured his Achilles
You two should at least get a simulcast on FS1 of this show. It's high end content.
They would have to keep it PG for tv lol.
why don't they do the podcast Live on RUclips??????
Damn chris all facts
"How you like them apple ".... Lmfao
Curry needs this to cement is legacy, IDGAF what nobody says.
Phillip Ozia bra 4x champion cements your legacy wtf are you talking about
Rod Wells Hell no how you the most important player on your team and not the mvp. Imagine if scottie pippen was mvp instead of mj or Chris bosh instead of lebron
Rod Wells How does Andre Iguodala win Finals MVP and he’s not the most valuable player, knock it off.
Belliones Thanks ppl are dumb, this is actually Taylor made for him to win, no real threat at guard play, he just needs to go out and excute.
You are insane. Curry has had excellent finals if you exclude 2016 where he was injured, fouled out of game and then half the fouls were rescinded curry has averaged 27 7 and 7 in the finals.
You cannot hold the 2016 defeat against curry because the warriors had 2 injured key players aside form an injured Steph. Bogut was completely out and iguodala wasn't 100%, green then got suspended, the warriors then had a 7 game series before and had pushed themselves all out to win 73 games in the regular season. That is very clearly not his fault.
Chris saying they dont look at Magic without Kareem but he always trying to look at KD without the Warriors. Its a team game and nobody has won a chip by themselves. This aint tennis
This ain't tennis 😂👌
Everybody love KD now, ain't that cute.
It would be funny if Andre Iguodala wins Finals MVP again.
whoa past 2 shows been heavy on the pauses 0:48
Rob Parker is like your friend that doesn't know anything but just yells at you about how wrong you are. #DontBeThatGuy
This is like "does lionel Messi need a World cup title to be the undisputed GOAT?". No, he doesnt...and neither does Steph need final's MVP.
Rahhhhb Parker is wrong about the 2015 FMVP. Haters kept Curry from getting the recognition.
Chris broussard always show and guess about nba players
Oh we only talking bout recent stuff...wow. Rob is wildin
Caller one got confused AF. LOL
i cant think of a single all time great player (excluding the guy who the award is named after) who didnt win at least one finals mvp. yeah guys like magic, kareem, and kobe didnt always win the award but they did win it at least once. maybe im forgetting someone but i really cant think of an all time great player who never won it. i mean it depends how you define all time great but lets say we made a list of the top 15 or 20 nba players of history. how many of them dont have a finals mvp excluding ones who played most of their career before it was introduced as an award?
Julius Erving never won it. J. Kidd never won it and peeps feel that he's a top 3 or 4 pg ever in the nba.
@@jjjayden8964 i guess erving is an example but he did play a decent amount of his career in the ABA. kidd was a great player but i dont think most people would rate him anywhere close to top 20.
Chris bout to go bald hanging out with Rob all the time haha
That’s idiotic to compare shooting percentages for people from different eras. There are more possessions and people are shooting way more threes.. no hand check.
love Rob
These young guys can never be themselves because they will always get compare to older players back in the day it’s so sad that there this much pressure on kids to be players you use to watch smh damn same.
6:34 Chris GOATsard
Think about this:
2015 finals, there is no Green and Thompson only plays game 1. Lebron has a healthy team and they only win 4:2, and Lebron doesn't win the finals MVP. 😂
C'mon man the media would crusify Lebron and you know it, so don't blame Rob for throwing a little shade on Curry, it's only fair
Ludi DaVinci first time in the finals...Lebron lost to Dallas in 2011 and crumbled fully healthy
@@BigDal8604 and does he not get killed for that? And your comment does not answer my comment
What legacy you talking about ? The one he already has and still building further ? The 2 times MVP and one of the best, if not the best handsdown, shooter of all time ? What legacy you talking abouuut?
They stole Steph 2015 finals mvp no debate. Also let’s not act like winning it is everything. Kobe 3 under Shaq isn’t less impressive but he wouldn’t be considered close to where I have him ranked w/o the 2 he did win. Curry career is capped off with a legit fmvp though💯
THANK YOU CHRIS! This narrative that he doesn’t show up in the Finals is bogus. Not having a FMVP in Steph’s case shouldn’t take away from his greatness; he balled out but KD had slightly better stats; that not his fault. Curry gonna show the haters this time.
So basically Rob is saying he is a follower. He has to see what other people think before he gives an opinion.
chris you comparing Curry's ave points per finals game agaist Larry and MJ? The rules and pace of game was very different and you know this guy. Sit down
Andrew Macdonald not in the 80s bruh
@Andrew you must've missed the Kobe part of that...
@@boricuafrican1 the game has changed since Kobe was making his championship runs. Look at how many points Harden averaged this season.
@@MatthewSmith-lr8bm are you even remotely familiar with how many points Jordan or Kobe averaged?
@@boricuafrican1 your point? Kobe last two championships the NBA game was more about the mid range and iso. Now it's all about shooting 3's and ball movement. The point is Jordan avg 30 in a season doing it the hard way as opposed to players like Harden shooting 3's and flopping.
These damn ADS 😡😤!!! FFS!!!
Parker got weird early 🤨
Thats bullshit because steph is defended differently than any other player in the NBA.
Steph should've won in 2015. The Warriors don't win that series without Curry, and it's not even close. Iggy was indeed impactful throughout the series, but Curry was the most consistent and BEST player for the Warriors. LeBron was shooting poorly for the series with or without Iggy -- his defense certainly helped. The Warriors don't win game one without Curry or games 4-6. He averaged ten more points per game than the next closest Warrior. The media members got it wrong; they were so hellbent on awarding LBJ Finals MVP that they gave it to Iggy instead. I remember every other day ESPN was shoving LBJ for finals MVP down our throats by always mentioning Jerry West. Again, I'm not sighting Iggy because he was the 3rd best player on the floor in the series and games 4-6, he was nearly as impactful as Curry.
Rob is just arguing to argue
Love the show, hate the screaming. Don't know what to do with this lol
Is this really a question steph reached 3 point leader in 739 games n ray took how long common Namaste
Who told Rob yellin is good radio?? It Only works if u right and Rob is never right.
Do they not have an inside voice?
exactly how can anyone be considered the goat with only 1 mvp. No disrespect to the great Kobe Bryant, but when the competition is close 4 mvp's to 1 seals the deal.
Whatever. curry already had a great career with or without fmvp and nothing could take that away regardless of who says what ! nothing will change how we feel about him as warriors fans and that's enough
Chris killing Rob
To enhance his Legacy yes
Rob sipping on that Henny on the air! Gangsta
He does not need any of that MVP or whatever... Kevin can have all the MVP's he wants but just know that without Curry and the Warriors he wouldn't even smell one let alone touch one... A championship is a lot more important than a MVP.
I love rob packer cause when he hates u he lets u know when he loves u ... u can do no wrong lol
Stop yelling over each other. Speaking loud doesn't makes you right. Be objective.
That's usually Chris.
Here's a question say Curry avg 35 points in the finals but some reason or reasons G.S. lose who will be blame.
It is customary to try to pick out one player and make them great because we still have Michael Jordan withdraws but what they fail to realize the reason why you can't make curry as great as you want to, even though he is great, because they play great TEAM BALL. the greatest team we've seen. AND each one of those pieces need each other. you can't do anything without clay without Draymond and without Steph. those three together is amazing
Yeah but arguably klay and draymond couldn't do anything without Steph. Curry could probably be Damien lillard or James harden without draymond or klay. Just putting up numbers without winning big.
@@moto2442 and Steph size make him rely on the wholeteam. He needs them just as much as they need him
@@tonetone111222 Yeah curry needs his team but if MJ didn't have Pippen he wouldn't have won anything either. He never won a playoff series without Pippen so you can't say that about Steph. Without saying that about mj.
@@moto2442 mj would take the last shot curry relies on his team. Or MORE RELIABLE because he was bigger. Look, i like curry and he's my favorite but his game is relies on the OTHERS more than Jordan
@@tonetone111222 Yes jordan was great but Scott Paxton and Steve kerr made some of the biggest shots in his career. On top of that Pippen took the bulls team to CF without mj and probably would have got to the finals if it wasn't for a bad call. Could draymond and klay do that? Jordan flat out had a better team if you take out mj curry and KD. I'm not knocking mj as 6 titles without defeat is impressive but you can't say he did it all by himself. You also have Ron harper, Dennis rodman and artis gilmore all players who were dpoy candidates and all of them who deserved to be on all defensive teams. Mj still made the shot and scored a nba finals game winner but it doesn't change the help he had.
Kareem won with big O and Magic but didn't reach the playoffs 2 years in a row in the middle of his prime.
LeBron reached the before miami but failed to win and lost to the big 3 celtics in the conference finals.
Magic never won a fi als without Kareem. He was brilliant in game 6 his first year but he was then Tragic the next.
Every single one of the all time greats relied on their teammates as much as curry except lebron. The rest of them had a much better number 2 and didn't have to compete against another top 5 player of all time.
Curry has only struggled for stretches in the playoffs when he is injured (or KD was scoring 35+ for 8 straight games - but that wasn't curry's fault he was still averaging 23). Curry occasionally lats an egg but he is also the catyst for the best or 2nd best offense ever and is an underated passer and defender.
Lol poor rob can get pushback during his soliloquy but God forbid u give chris pushback during his rant, he throw a hissy fit lol..and i love chris, but damn!!
Sooooooo, you trying to tell me that if the Warriors win and Steph doesn't win the Finals MVP it's taints his legacy? Nonsense!!! That would mean he has 4 championships in 5 years, a threepeat, 2 regular season MVP's, regarded as the greatest shooter the game has ever seen, probably the alltime 3 point shooter, First ballot hall of famer and arguably the 2nd or 3rd best point guard to ever play the game. And just because he doesn't win a Finals MVP his legacy would not be cemented. MISS ME WITH THAT NONSENSE.
BlkDiesel it a show that they were stacked
BlkDiesel So if scottie pippen had 6 fmvps would you consider the fact that mj is still the goat ?
@@Belliones Respectfully, we are not talking about Steph in the GOAT conversation. We are talking about his legacy. Many believe that his legacy is already cemented as one of the alltime greats. He doesn't need a Finals MVP to prove that. That would just be nice icing on an already delicious cake.
Neither KD, Kawhi or Giannis have back to back MVPs but we rank getting an MVP over a 82 game season and an MVP over 4-7 games differently
You realize Steve Nash has more league MVP'S than Kobe, Dwade, KD and Dirk. So sometimes league MVP is nothing more than a popularity contest. Finals MVP mean you're the best when it really counts, while achieving the ultimate goal.
Matthew Smith only about 8 people vote for FMVP compared to MVP and its mostly media members. Suns never won a chip, so Nash isnt a good comp.
@@fmvp6892 that's my point. Even those years Jordan won championships he didn't win league MVP ever year. Tell me what play was better then Jordan during that span? The truth is people did vote him as league MVP because they personally didn't like him but in MVP vote people can't hidden their bias.
Matthew Smith and how many league MVPs did Jordan win? Way more than Kobe, DWade, Dirk & KD. Thats why he’s revered as the best
@@fmvp6892 what I'm saying is those years he didn't, look at who won? Did they really have a better season than Jordan, nope. So winning league MVP doesn't automatically make you the best player that year in the league.
Robs lack of logic astounds me. I'm sorry, but choking in the third round is much worse than choking in the finals... because... you know, you have to get to the finals to choke there? Lol
There is absolutely no world in which Steph Curry bringing his team to the NBA finals and losing is worse than KD bringing his team to the third round and losing. That's an insane sentiment to hold.
Facts. People brush this fact under the table, conveniently: KD's thunder team blew a 3-1 lead to Curry's Warriors 😂
@@GamingWithGino exactly. According to Rob, Kevin Durant and okc dropping that series to Golden State is better for Durant than winning that series and losing the next... that's just stupidity, plain and simple.
@@CGoody564 Yeah I never understood that type of argument. It's the same thing they apply towards LeBron making 8 straight finals, as if it will be better to lose in the 2nd round rather than the finals lmao.
@@GamingWithGino people already talk about his legacy. If Rob thinks never making it to the finals to lose somehow improves ones legacy, hes a moron.
Hell, rings aren't enough for rob. If you haven't won a finals mvps, your legacy is trash apparently
Broussard doesnt understand...stats dont win titles, ask russell westbrook. My reason for not giving curry the all-time nod is because he is really a 1-trick pony, All he can do is shoot, if his shot isnt fallin hes MIA. Players like klay still defends @ a high level & many other players in the league are the same way...they bring more to table. I have to see steph carry w/o the luxury of 4 other superstars.
I think he understands that... he's said that many times already...
@@boricuafrican1 well why does he keep using stats as justification?
@@Omaski how can you NOT talk about stats? how can you just completely avoid talking about stats?
@@boricuafrican1 im not saying dont look @ stats im just saying dont have stats as your only justification bcuz Russell Westbrook stats says hes a top 5 all-time player. You have to use the "eye test" as well and steph isnt 'dominate' if his shot is off
People hate facts...fact is the last time we saw Curry without Durant, he was choking a 3-1 lead!!! FACTS!!! They wouldn't have the last 2 rings without Durant!!
So you mean to tell me that Kyle Lowry and VanVleet is gonna outplay Curry? Lol
Pippen didn't win a finals MVP but he is an all time great
What? Because he was never the greatest player on his team.
I don't know why a finals mvp is important. If you're a HOFer, you're a HOFer, period. Especially with multiple championships.These 2 guys have the loudest studio in sports. Good show tho.
FMVP is important because the top 10 players by the masses all have at least 1 FMVP. Stephs legacy is set already as an all time great but getting that FMVP would enhance his legacy and he becomes one of 8 players to have multiple titles, multiple reg season mvps and fmvp hardware. It would be hard not to include him in the top 10 once he gets that FMVP.
Defenders Win Finals MVPs. Steph Curry Is Not One
KD Had To Guard LeBron In 2017 & 2018
LeBron Had To Guard Everybody In 2016
Iggy Had To Guard LeBron In 2015
Kawhi Had To Guard LeBron In 2014
LeBron Had To Guard Kawhi In 2013
LeBron Had To Guard KD In 2012
I'm Just Saying The Precedence Has Been Set.
This from the same guy who thinks Tom Brady ain’t shit.
I've always said that FMVP's are a little overrated. Just because you don't have a FMVP it doeasn't mean you aren't a dominant Finals performer. For example Kobe has played in 7 total Finals and has 2 FMVP's, but overall averages 25, 6 and 5 for those Finals and i've always said Kobe is one of the most overrated Finals performers of all time while Steph is one of the most underrated Finals performers of all time. For his 5 finals that Curry has played in he averages 27, 6 and 6 ! While shooting a higher FG%, 3P%, FT% and having a bigger impact than Kobe but i mean it is what it is. Still a top 20 player of all time
Kobe took over the game in the 2000 finals in overtime you don't know what you talking about
Steph has never took over a finals game
it's sad that Rob is so -------------
Mannnnn if Steph dont win finals mvp that's gone look real suspect lol before KD I seen him get shut down & not show up a few games in them first 2 finals ! & playin wit KD was a cake walk neither 1 of them proved nothin tbh..but if they win this without KD & steph get finals MVP I'll respect that
You know else looks kinda suspect is that KD couldn't beat Curry when he was in OKC 😂 don't forget about that. KD is great of course, but people make it seem like Curry's Warriors were barely a 40 win team that couldn't come up big in ANY playoff series versus ANY all time great players and teams 🤔
Wow the hate for steph is real
Don't forget it's Iggy's last season most likely, and we know what he's capable of :)
T 2 lol nothing that’s kawhi is on the floor
he should already have one...he got robbed in 2015...who are we gonna look back on and say lead that team to the chip that year Steph or Iggy?
How you like them apples 😂 hahaha
No doesn't mean 💩💩💩.
Final's MVP is overrated in today's era
Not really that mean you were the best player on the court when it counted. Now league MVP is overrated. There no way possible that Steve Nash should have more MVP'S than Kobe, Dwade or Dirk. It really a popularity contest. Just look at how people decided not to vote for Jordan between 92-98, really what player in the league was better than Jordan during those years.
Rob is clueless about basketball