@@DanBlewett it’s okay. That dude is just wasting ur time. Thank you for the video though. I’m trying to find a pitch to throw bc a slider doesn’t work with my over the top arm slot
Good info. Some say to "remove the white" showing right of your fingers to the curved seam. I have found that with the curved seam to the left, if I hold it same way (fingers to the left side of ball and more pressure with index finger), the ball will cut to the right (I am right handed.). Which I had known all this as a player and coach years ago but we never stop trying to learn. Hence, thanks for all your videos.
No offense but they aren’t going to be good pitchers if you just throw a ton of random pitches for 3 hours, takes a ton of time to actually get a good pitch down and learning it
Thats how mariano rivera figured out his 4 seam FB started looking like a cutter. Continued to get better with the cutter and became almost unhittable his career
My old teammate who pitched started doing that and we would all call it a slutter. We'd yell from the dugout, "Throw that slutter Steven!". Definitely got in trouble from the ump, but it was always worth it because it'd throw the batter off.
@@mightymoose4577 The most common answer I've heard is that if you cant throw it hard enough (and impart enough RPM) it does nothing, basically making it a crappy fastball. Velocity gets the ball to move with this pitch vs a 2 seam where proper technique can yield results.
Only throw a cutter if your good at it otherwise throw a slider or a sweeper there way easier to throw and over all better pitches especially at the high school level
It’s actually not gyro spin that’s introduced. Gyro spin won’t cause the ball to move. If you were to draw a line that goes through the axis of rotation for the ball, that line should still be parallel to the plane the ball travels through (think of a plane that makes a big wall) If that line isn’t parallel then there would be some gyro spin. You can also think of it this way. If a ball had fully gyro spin (rotating like a football), the line would pass through from the front to the back of the ball which would be perpendicular to the plane it travels through, which means that spin wouldn’t have any effect on the ball breaking
no, sorry you're wrong on this. no one is saying it's ALL gyro spin. It's obviously not spinning like a football. Gyro spin can be introduced in small amounts - this is measured by Trackman, Rapsodo, etc. You're not up to speed on this. I've had this discussion with Alan Nathan and Barton Smith - both physicists who specialize in baseball. You add slight gyro spin to a cut fastball.
@@DanBlewett I think it’s impossible to have a ball without any gyro spin at all, but I don’t think a cutter inherently introduces gyro spin. You can still throw a cutter with back spin and side spin without its spin vector pointing in the direction of motion. Obviously I’m not as qualified as these physicists so I’ve gotta go back and look into it a bit more
@@DanBlewett I’ve been looking into this a bit and from my understanding, cutters generally have a high amount of gyro spin, but it doesn’t mean that a cutter has to have gyro spin any different than a 4 seamer or 12-6 curveball. You can still have a perfect cutter with a spin axis entirely in the x-y plane. The way I think about it is a perfect slider with strictly side spin would have a spin axis that is completely vertical and would be parallel to the x-y plane. If we now rotate that slider 45 degrees clockwise in the x-y plane, we can get a cutter with equal parts backspin and sidespin without inducing any gyro spin. This spin axis would point from 45 degrees to 225 degrees in the x-y plane, but would still be 0 degrees in the other 2 planes (x-z and y-z) which means it wouldn’t have any gyro spin. Like I said it’s extremely difficult to throw a cutter like this because of the grip and release, but it doesn’t mean a cutter has to have gyro spin in theory like any other pitch. Maybe I’m not thinking about this correctly but I’d like to hear a counterpoint from you cause maybe that’ll help me think about it in a different perspective
@jeremykates7276 I think you're over exerting yourself on this topic. Just get a glove and ball, practice if that's your intentions. Bringing physics and the magnus effect to the equation is unnecessary. 😂 either you learn by playing or just take your argument elsewhere.
There was a pitcher I want to say from the Mets who basically threw a cut fastball every pitch...just used different placement. Can't remember his name.
I want to have this self debate settled as a self taught pitcher: Do my arm act in a whip motion when throwing the ball? (This meaning big arm movement, quick and snap action on my fingers)
Leave the thumb where it’s at. If you move the thumb the weight of the ball is one sided. Think of it like a 4 seamer, the thumb and both fingers cut the ball in half, the middle finger adds spin stabilizing the ball. The cutter cuts the ball in half with the thumb and index only making the middle finger add gyro spin.
@@Bigsbyproductions it is not a healthy pitch but it isn’t necessarily dangerous but like he said work on 4 seams,2 seams, change up’s and once you get to 13 or very close to 13 start learning a curveball.
Is there more pressure on the index finger? Do you find a cutter is complimentary pitch for the two seam, assuming they both start in same location and run different direction? Or do you use one for right handlers and one for left handlers to run away from hitter?
no - finger pressure doesn't really exist. It's a myth that you can apply differential pressure as your arm is moving at insane speeds. Cutter is a purpose pitch to jam opposite-handed hitters or get ground balls for same side. Not appropriate for youth players at all. too hard to throw correctly and not necessary.
@@DanBlewett that opinion surprises me. You're telling me I can't consistently squeeze more with one finger than another? Or that it doesn't really have an effect? I'd never considered that possibly, but it seems pretty straightforward for those fancy baseball pitch physicists to test and measure. (Those guys have an awesome job. Look em up if you haven't seen em on RUclips. They have fancy machines and they design pitches. Don't ask em how to actually make it spin the way they demonstrate, they'll just remind you that you're the pitcher lol.) As for the usefulness of a cutter... I've only been able to make the ball break glove-side twice in 33 years, and those two were probably just dreams brought on by intense visualization techniques. But it seems like with every pitch going straight, straight down, or left, having something that moves glove side should be a powerful tool. Cutter, 2sm, and a change-up seems like a pretty solid arsenal.
It shouldn’t bother me. But that is 1 o’clock my good sir
mis-speaking happens sometimes
@@DanBlewett it’s okay. That dude is just wasting ur time. Thank you for the video though. I’m trying to find a pitch to throw bc a slider doesn’t work with my over the top arm slot
@@Cole.30 look up Trevor bauers slider
@@lonelyness170 it’s good I got my curveball to move like crazy
@@lonelyness170 ty tho
First time the cutter ever made sense to me. The spin breakdown really helped
crystal clear coach Dan
I accidentally learned to throw this in the bullpen during a game
Good info. Some say to "remove the white" showing right of your fingers to the curved seam. I have found that with the curved seam to the left, if I hold it same way (fingers to the left side of ball and more pressure with index finger), the ball will cut to the right (I am right handed.). Which I had known all this as a player and coach years ago but we never stop trying to learn. Hence, thanks for all your videos.
Me personally, the cutter is definitely one of my favorite pitches
I freaking hate it when my fastballs turn into cutters!
Omg yes happens all the time to me
Ive been spending the last 3 hours learning every pitch that i dont know already this is the only channel with that
No offense but they aren’t going to be good pitchers if you just throw a ton of random pitches for 3 hours, takes a ton of time to actually get a good pitch down and learning it
Amazing 👏 very clear and I got the message great vid
Awesome! Thank you!
Thats how mariano rivera figured out his 4 seam FB started looking like a cutter. Continued to get better with the cutter and became almost unhittable his career
I always did the slider and turned it to the right, making a very strong grip. And omg it does way more than just a cutter, it’s like a sinker/cut
My old teammate who pitched started doing that and we would all call it a slutter. We'd yell from the dugout, "Throw that slutter Steven!". Definitely got in trouble from the ump, but it was always worth it because it'd throw the batter off.
Sinkers and cutters are opposites
thank you so much been looking how to throw this pitch
Does the cutter need to be thrown just like a fastball with the only difference being the slight change in grip?
yes
So then why is the cutter said to be a bad pitch to teach youth, vs a sinker (2-seam) is ok?
@@mightymoose4577 The most common answer I've heard is that if you cant throw it hard enough (and impart enough RPM) it does nothing, basically making it a crappy fastball. Velocity gets the ball to move with this pitch vs a 2 seam where proper technique can yield results.
Only throw a cutter if your good at it otherwise throw a slider or a sweeper there way easier to throw and over all better pitches especially at the high school level
Hmmm did mine the Rivera way. Slider grip with it being offset a bit and throw never failed.
Thank you but how do I cut a gripper?
Question: do you also want to adjust the placement of your thumb to match the grip on the seam?
do what feels comfortable
Thanks bruh 😎
Do you hold it the same way if with your left hand?
Same or instead of holding it on the “one oclock “ should I hold it on the 11 oclock?
yes just flip it on the clock
This helped me a lot.❤
It’s actually not gyro spin that’s introduced. Gyro spin won’t cause the ball to move. If you were to draw a line that goes through the axis of rotation for the ball, that line should still be parallel to the plane the ball travels through (think of a plane that makes a big wall) If that line isn’t parallel then there would be some gyro spin.
You can also think of it this way. If a ball had fully gyro spin (rotating like a football), the line would pass through from the front to the back of the ball which would be perpendicular to the plane it travels through, which means that spin wouldn’t have any effect on the ball breaking
no, sorry you're wrong on this. no one is saying it's ALL gyro spin. It's obviously not spinning like a football. Gyro spin can be introduced in small amounts - this is measured by Trackman, Rapsodo, etc. You're not up to speed on this. I've had this discussion with Alan Nathan and Barton Smith - both physicists who specialize in baseball. You add slight gyro spin to a cut fastball.
@@DanBlewett I think it’s impossible to have a ball without any gyro spin at all, but I don’t think a cutter inherently introduces gyro spin. You can still throw a cutter with back spin and side spin without its spin vector pointing in the direction of motion. Obviously I’m not as qualified as these physicists so I’ve gotta go back and look into it a bit more
study up on it - as i mentioned, you're wrong on this.
@@DanBlewett I’ve been looking into this a bit and from my understanding, cutters generally have a high amount of gyro spin, but it doesn’t mean that a cutter has to have gyro spin any different than a 4 seamer or 12-6 curveball. You can still have a perfect cutter with a spin axis entirely in the x-y plane. The way I think about it is a perfect slider with strictly side spin would have a spin axis that is completely vertical and would be parallel to the x-y plane. If we now rotate that slider 45 degrees clockwise in the x-y plane, we can get a cutter with equal parts backspin and sidespin without inducing any gyro spin. This spin axis would point from 45 degrees to 225 degrees in the x-y plane, but would still be 0 degrees in the other 2 planes (x-z and y-z) which means it wouldn’t have any gyro spin. Like I said it’s extremely difficult to throw a cutter like this because of the grip and release, but it doesn’t mean a cutter has to have gyro spin in theory like any other pitch. Maybe I’m not thinking about this correctly but I’d like to hear a counterpoint from you cause maybe that’ll help me think about it in a different perspective
@jeremykates7276 I think you're over exerting yourself on this topic. Just get a glove and ball, practice if that's your intentions. Bringing physics and the magnus effect to the equation is unnecessary. 😂 either you learn by playing or just take your argument elsewhere.
My god. I would've been such a better pitcher if youtube existed in the late 90's.
Don't use God's Name in vain
@@aiden_jaison As a fellow Christian.
Shut up.
so one o clock not 11 o clock?
My fingers are always spread further apart when I did four seam fastballs seems like yours is closer like when I held my curve ball
I know a sinker with your fingers parallel to the 2 seams. But what happens when you throw a 2 seam across the seams?
you burst into flames
@@DanBlewett i knew it!
What does a cutter do ?
It’s a sliding fastball?
I’ve seen cutters go mid 90’s …
A slider could never go that fast 😢
DeGrom threw a slider 96
There was a pitcher I want to say from the Mets who basically threw a cut fastball every pitch...just used different placement. Can't remember his name.
Do you have to have any wrist movement or would you throw it just like a four seam
I want to have this self debate settled as a self taught pitcher: Do my arm act in a whip motion when throwing the ball? (This meaning big arm movement, quick and snap action on my fingers)
uh
@@DanBlewettgreat response 👍🙏
Where does the thumb go? Center of ball or one side or the other?
Leave the thumb where it’s at. If you move the thumb the weight of the ball is one sided. Think of it like a 4 seamer, the thumb and both fingers cut the ball in half, the middle finger adds spin stabilizing the ball. The cutter cuts the ball in half with the thumb and index only making the middle finger add gyro spin.
Will u hurt your arm throwing a Cutter at 10-12
not sure, but its really not an appropriate pitch at that age. Work on fastball and changeup.
@@DanBlewett 👍
@@Bigsbyproductions it is not a healthy pitch but it isn’t necessarily dangerous but like he said work on 4 seams,2 seams, change up’s and once you get to 13 or very close to 13 start learning a curveball.
Thanks so much
It’s one o’clock bro
Finally old enough to play in my men's league. Gonna use this to strike out a bunch of 40 year old dads lol.
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Is there more pressure on the index finger? Do you find a cutter is complimentary pitch for the two seam, assuming they both start in same location and run different direction? Or do you use one for right handlers and one for left handlers to run away from hitter?
no - finger pressure doesn't really exist. It's a myth that you can apply differential pressure as your arm is moving at insane speeds. Cutter is a purpose pitch to jam opposite-handed hitters or get ground balls for same side. Not appropriate for youth players at all. too hard to throw correctly and not necessary.
@@DanBlewett that opinion surprises me. You're telling me I can't consistently squeeze more with one finger than another? Or that it doesn't really have an effect? I'd never considered that possibly, but it seems pretty straightforward for those fancy baseball pitch physicists to test and measure. (Those guys have an awesome job. Look em up if you haven't seen em on RUclips. They have fancy machines and they design pitches. Don't ask em how to actually make it spin the way they demonstrate, they'll just remind you that you're the pitcher lol.)
As for the usefulness of a cutter... I've only been able to make the ball break glove-side twice in 33 years, and those two were probably just dreams brought on by intense visualization techniques. But it seems like with every pitch going straight, straight down, or left, having something that moves glove side should be a powerful tool. Cutter, 2sm, and a change-up seems like a pretty solid arsenal.
@@DanBlewettthis is just not true at all 😂
Is it the same left handed?
Wow that's your question? Look in a mirror that should look tight
Freakin public schools man 🤣
gyro spin isn’t 100% accurate. with 100% gyro it will go straight down.
no one said 100% gyro spin, and you've got gyro spin wrong anyway - 100% gyro means it wouldn't move at all - like a bullet - flying straight.
Why not use the tip of the shoe and twist the wrist it's more nasty it's like a fast curve
because thats not how you throw a cutter?
@@DanBlewett never really threw cutters that much it can brake at like lower to mid 90s it just takes more practice
Oh you right lol
Y si esta enrollada en teipe que hago?
Do you mean 12:00 to 1:00
yes
Love
Why is it called cutter?
because it cuts
Isn’t that 1:00 not 11:00?
Play Cricket BaseBall is complicated
play baseball cricket is lame
@@DanBlewett both are hella fun. Good tutorial as wel
Unless your fastball is atleast 90 i dont see a point in throwing a cutter
I agree, actually
@@DanBlewett yea i kind lf though so it seems like it would be a better pitch if you could replace your fastball with it like Emmanuel Clase
How about for a lefty
just use your other arm
Hey Siri show me how to trow a 4 seam
Thats not gyro thats slight sidespin, gyro is like a bullet or football
Sorry you’re wrong on this. You don’t understand gyro spin well enough.
All of our baseballs say China on it. Think about that for a second.
MLB balls are made in costa rica - also everything is made in china
You said 11 o’clock but I think you mean 1??
yeah probably mis-spoke
Read a clock much?
sometimes people misspeak - why be a jerk about it? 25 people have already left the same comment, by the way.
It only works at 1 how is that even possible
カッター！投げたい😊
Dont you mean 1?
yes
No pronation?
no
Throw one
I just chuck it hard down the middle most batters cant hit
I can throw a cutter with a sinker grip lml
Simple You .
11?
Lefty discrimination ✊🏿
I think you'll survive.
That would be one not eleven.
Yuyasebeis
Dude doesn’t know how to read a clock
nah sometimes people just make mistakes when they're speaking
I have a better cutter grip
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